Air Force said NO. 12K of them.

[Darkwind]

The vax mandate isn't a lawful order.

You are wrong. The military has been giving vaccine orders to troops legally for the last 70 years.

 

[Darkwind]

The right to refuse unwanted medical procedures isn't one of them.

Also if the paperwork they signed doesn't say that they must submit to any and all vaccination requirements set forth by the military, then the military has no legal ground to stand on and thus it is not a lawful order. You can't retroactively go back and say you have to do this because you signed something years ago that said nothing about vaccines. If they were required to get certain vaccines to join the military and they joined and were enlisted, then those already enlisted cannot be forced to retroactively take another one that wasn't required when they first joined. They can force NEW recruits to take it because they can change the paperwork, but they can't go BACK and change things retroactively. That's against the law.

You are simply wrong.

The US Military has been stating and it is in your enlistment contract, that you WILL be vaccinated at the discretion of the branch of service you are serving in.

I don't know why you people have this blind spot regarding the military. They have the right to ship you to anywhere in the world and they have the right to vaccinate you against sickness for those regions of the planet.

They always have.

 

[beagle9]

As a kid, we went with our parents to get a sugar cube of the polio vaccine. I don't recall anyone objecting - most kids in the late 50's had a classmate in a wheelchair from polio. But I assume some Christian Scientists rejected the vaccine.

I entered the Air Force and got orders for Korea - I had to get Anthrax vaccine. No big deal to me; if the Air Force said it was needed for going to Korea, big deal, I figured AF knew more about Korea and Anthrax than I did. Korea, Phillipines, Homestead Florida, and back to San Antonio, then I got out and stayed in Reserves. IN the Reserves, we had an exercise of stging a deployment - filling a duffel bag with uniforms and items - boarding an aircraft as if we were actually going to deploy. At home, I got my shot records out - and left them lying on kitchen counter. In line with duffel bag - The image of the shot records on the counter came in my mind; I asked how long I had before the processing line was over - for my house was quite close to Kelly AFB. I did not have time to go home and get the shot records, so I asked "what is the alternative?"
Take every shot in my shot records on the spot. Ok - do it.
The two medic airmen had a blast loading up the "guns" and giving me all the shots from both sides.
Exercise concluded - yeah I was a bit woozy from all that medicine at once, but no problem.
I hope we don't lose 12 thousand airmen over this - gotta be some way out

If those 12 thousand had Covid, and they had gotten over it naturally, well then no fear because they ain't going no where but back to work once their blood is evaluated for the anti-bodies if were allowed. The government likes to do everything as a cheap, and in a blanketing way as it can, so a blood test (if were allowed, and otherwise for an exemption), would probably have to be paid for by the service personal wanting the exemption themselves, and not by the government.

Not sure why such a thing wouldn't be allowed, otherwise if the test could be done in house, otherwise by the military for the service personel who would want such a thing for an exemption ?

 

[Colin norris]

You are in denial or you were severely lied to

Research it for yourself

Thank you for your advice but since it came from an extremely biased ignorant source, I won't pass it on. There's enough lies floating around on here.

 

[beagle9]

You are simply wrong.

The US Military has been stating and it is in your enlistment contract, that you WILL be vaccinated at the discretion of the branch of service you are serving in.

I don't know why you people have this blind spot regarding the military. They have the right to ship you to anywhere in the world and they have the right to vaccinate you against sickness for those regions of the planet.

They always have.

It's true.

 

[Donald H]

Some in government need to be taken to court, and removed from their jobs for what they've done. It's just pathetic.

You're resorted to making several false statements in that post and that just destroys your credibility completely.

Fact check: No, natural immunity doesn’t replace vaccination, experts say - National | Globalnews.ca

Vaccines offer consistent protection against COVID-19 -- and unlike natural immunity, you don’t have to get sick to gain the protective benefits of a vaccine.

globalnews.ca

Just one for an example. Can you find at least one or two more false statements?

 

[beagle9]

You're resorted to making several false statements in that post and that just destroys your credibility completely.

Fact check: No, natural immunity doesn’t replace vaccination, experts say - National | Globalnews.ca

Vaccines offer consistent protection against COVID-19 -- and unlike natural immunity, you don’t have to get sick to gain the protective benefits of a vaccine.

globalnews.ca

Just one for an example. Can you find at least one or two more false statements?

Keep politicizing it, and more and more will reject your piece of work government, and the nation will reject anything Democrat's spew until the Democrat government is destroyed in the coming elections. It's already started. I bet you worship the Pope also don't you ?

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Actually, they have not been fully approved and the boosters have just been cleared to use as experimental.

Try citing facts, not wishes.

I wish you would find a fact to use in your arguments. The COVID vaccines are and have been approved. Google is your friend.

 

[Karen Brandon]

329,614 active duty airmen,
172,857 civilian personnel,
69,056 reserve airmen, and
107,414 Air National Guard airmen.

12 thousand is a good chunk, but still a lot left

 

[Catman51]

Until you support your claims, you are nothing but a stolen valor liar.

I will not respond to you again on this topic till you do so...you are not worth the oxygen used while typing.

Speaking of yourself again? You keep making demands, through what authority I don't know or care, without meeting your own demands. Admittedly you make no claims of valor since you have none.

A moron and a liar to the end.

So cut and run as is the typical action of your kind. Coward.

 

[Donald H]

Keep politicizing it, and more and more will reject your piece of work government, and the nation will reject anything Democrat's spew until the Democrat government is destroyed in the coming elections. It's already started. I bet you worship the Pope also don't you ?

I'm a Canadian and I could care less about the Democrats or the other side. In fact I see more hope in Trump coming back to lead the US into becoming a fascist regime which the rest of the world can rally against.
The sooner the better for America's chances to ever come back from depravity and corruption.

I'm an atheist who doesn't believe in any of the sky fairies.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Not when over riding a personal choice in seeking an exemption, such as religious grounds.

What religion bans vaccines? No religion was created AFTER vaccines were created, so that's just bullshit!

 

[Catman51]

I wish you would find a fact to use in your arguments. The COVID vaccines are and have been approved. Google is your friend.

Have they all been approved, or just certain ones? You know, the ones that paid the CDC and FDA to approve.

I don't and never have trusted the government having seen first hand that they lie to serve their own ends.

 

[beagle9]

329,614 active duty airmen,
172,857 civilian personnel,
69,056 reserve airmen, and
107,414 Air National Guard airmen.

12 thousand is a good chunk, but still a lot left

If those 12000 or more had gotten Covid, and recovered naturally, then the military is doing itself a dis-service by mistreating them. I thought this was the new and improved military ??? You know the one Milly support's and undermines his superiors for ??

 

[Catman51]

There is nothing about breakthrough cases or hospitalizations that refutes anything I've said.

You just don't know wtf you are talking about. 95% is not 100%.

And still the death rate is below 2% and nothing you have lied about changes that. The flu has a higher death rate. Look it up and then shut up.

 

[beagle9]

Have they all been approved, or just certain ones? You know, the ones that paid the CDC and FDA to approve.

I don't and never have trusted the government having seen first hand that they lie to serve their own ends.

They have definitely done that too.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Wrecking. Not reeking. Now who is the moron?

What reeks are the threads you land in while pretending to know all.

Reek. Look it up. Idiot.

Hey, you are both dumbasses. The word is "wreaking".

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Have they all been approved, or just certain ones? You know, the ones that paid the CDC and FDA to approve.

I don't and never have trusted the government having seen first hand that they lie to serve their own ends.

The term for your behavior is called "backpedaling".

 

[Karen Brandon]

what does the 12,000 who said they would not be vaccinated have to do with "had COVID and recovered"?
Two unrelated things

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Ooooh good speech for a Dimmer......but the fact remains a large number of US citizens, military and non-military, are going to exercise their right of freedom of choice and not get the shot.

They will lose their jobs.

I am a civilian Army contractor. My deadline to show proof of vaccination is coming up. If I don't provide it, my company will fire me.