Air Force said NO. 12K of them.

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

You then were the prototypical marine, not bright enough to as questions just do as you are told. And when it goes wrong you are used as cannon fodder.

So when and where did you serve, or are you just talking out your ass?

Gator may be a dumb Marine (redundant I know!) but he is dead right on this topic.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Words denote the intelligence of the speaker, and the truthfulness of that person. Since you insist on not knowing this, it shows you to be inferior in every way and incapable of speaking at an adult level. The typical marine.

When I was in Viet Nam, you would be used as cannon fodder, having no better use.

So senility is your excuse?

 

[beagle9]

what does the 12,000 who said they would not be vaccinated have to do with "had COVID and recovered"?
Two unrelated things

Don't know, but I figured that the reason they were refusing might be because they had already had the virus, and that they were naturally immune. Why vaccinate the naturally immune, if they don't need it, and are a spoke in the wheel towards herd immunity with all in this situation ??

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

This does not make it a lawful order. It just means that there is more culpability to go around. It was done only for political reasons and the troops have the right to disobey it as an unlawful order.

It takes more than an "order" to make something legal. Even a moron such as y ou should be able to understand that, unless the words are more than two letters and you refuse to understand them.

My God, man! Back that truck up, admit you were wrong, and slink back under the rock from whence you had slithered.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Not an actual DD214, but then that is to be expected from a liar like you.

Mine cites Being awarded the Vietnam Service Medal, Republic of Vietnam Campaign Medal Among several other awards. Tour was two years in country. Oh yes, there is also a Purple Heart. Combat awards not evident in your attempt at stolen valor. You are busted.

Why is it not a DD214? That is the summary of service section. I should know. I have 3 of them!

 

[Karen Brandon]

Nowhere was it said that the 12,000 who said they would refuse the vaccine had already had COVID and recovered.

That is just a bizarre bit of non-information that muddies the waters.

 

[Karen Brandon]

Admiral - you have three DD214's?
You got me beat - I only have two.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

You fabricated a table in order to try and make yourself look good. All it did is expose how much of a liar you truly and that you have no valor to be false about. Typical of a liar and blowhard wanna be. Also shows that you can't cut it on the outside. Still trying to live in the past.

How about this one?

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Admiral - you have three DD214's?
You got me beat - I only have two.

Enlisted, Reserve and Officer - only the first and last mattered.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

Speaking of yourself again? You keep making demands, through what authority I don't know or care, without meeting your own demands. Admittedly you make no claims of valor since you have none.

A moron and a liar to the end.

So cut and run as is the typical action of your kind. Coward.

still no dd124....you are still just full of shit. Why can you not do it...I did?

 

[Mac-7]

So what was the path to victory? They didn't seem to be doing so well with the funding.

They were holding their own

But the withholding of support by the democrat congress destroyed the confidence and morale of the south Vietnamese

 

[Mac-7]

I hope we don't lose 12 thousand airmen over this - gotta be some way out

That is the important issue

Libs are giddy over what they think believe is a punch in the mouth to conservatives

Its not political for the police and military but it certainly is political for biden and the trump haters here

 

[Foolardi]

Your premise, above, is fatally flawed:
If you are vaccinated, the fact someone is not does not affect you.

To hear Democrats { who seem to adore Little Lord Fauci } as this man
of great intellect and science is to be Played.Not even like a fiddle.
But some booming Bass Fiddle by some short bespeckled little schnook
of a man who still lives in his Mommies basement.
Reason is under attack.Thereby replaced by orders of the State.
As prescribed by Narcissistic Authoritarians.Not even of the first order.
Or any order ,even remotely requiring sanity and due dilligence.
Americans are also under attack.The very notion of Freedom is under attack.
Freedom is the goal of our republic.Take it away or mock it's importance
is like spitting on ones wife or girlfriend while walking down 5th Avenue and
window shopping.It's a brazen attempt to turn Americans into little
Nazis.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

There is no list of vaccine you agree to, you agree to follow order. There is no preapproved list, most of the time they do not even tell you what they are putting in you when you get your shots in boot camp. The recruit in front of me asked and the DI told him to shut the **** up and keep moving.

But if you want an example, look up the Anthrax vaccine given in the 90s, even to those of us who enlisted a decade before that.



It is not about what I want, I am not making them take anything. I am explaining how things are, that is it.

If you die, you cannot sue anyone, you are dead. But their family can sue the Govt.



I have answered every question you have asked

I had to take the vaccines that came out long after I enlisted in 1978.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

I had to take the vaccines that came out long after I enlisted in 1978.

I have no idea where these people got the idea the military gave you list of vaccine and you got to agree to them all

 

[beagle9]

Nowhere was it said that the 12,000 who said they would refuse the vaccine had already had COVID and recovered.

That is just a bizarre bit of non-information that muddies the waters.

Then why do you think that they are refusing ?

Politics or what ?

Most would assume that they don't want the shot or need it because they've already had Covid, and are naturally immune or that they are perfectly healthy young soldier's that the Covid doesn't effect in a dangerous way....So it is my guess that they are choosing to not be stuck with a Covid flu shot, uhhh mainly because they feel that they aren't threatend by the virus, and they don't want to be guinea pig's with a government experimenting on them.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

I have no idea where these people got the idea the military gave you list of vaccine and you got to agree to them all

This asshole may be an enlisted who was cashiered out as unfit for service.

 

[beagle9]

I have no idea where these people got the idea the military gave you list of vaccine and you got to agree to them all

Ok, so then explain why the government thinks that it can expand it's influence and power into the civilian population on such a thing ?? That is called government over reach, and to use government leverage in a nefarious political manor is just wrong. People should resist government tyranny always.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

Ok, so then explain why the government thinks that it can expand it's influence and power into the civilian population on such a thing ?? That is called government over reach, and to use government leverage in a nefarious political manor is just wrong. People should resist government tyranny always.

I agree the Govt should not be forcing civilian population to take any vaccine. But that is not the topic of the thread, the topic of the thread is military members being given vaccines....something that has always happened

 

[AntonToo]

And still the death rate is below 2% and nothing you have lied about changes that. The flu has a higher death rate. Look it up and then shut up.

Do you not even understand 2% of 320 million is over 6 million people???

Now maybe YOU can't be bothered to put a mask or get vaccinated to save most of these lives, but to most sane people it's well worth it.