AIPAC Is the Only Explanation for America's Morally Bankrupt Israel Policy

[docmauser1]

Do you really need more than the beach incident?
Eyewitness reports of the artillery chasing them up the beach in broad daylight, while the IDF has state of the art imaging equipment, plus drones of every size and precision munitions. Well, as it takes years for the IDF to agree to their people committing a crime, I do wonder who's report you will take as "substantive evidence". Seems to me it is right there on the thread, with every denial possible put against it, but there is the substantive evidence. The UN certainly thinks so. Though the US opposes it (of course) they are really keen to put Israel up on war crimes charges. Like a desperate criminal Israel is trying to get off on technicalities.

Drivel.

 

[LA RAM FAN]

AIPAC Is the Only Explanation for America's Morally Bankrupt Israel Policy*|*Stephen M. Walt

It is obvious that Israel wants tension and war to achieve the murder and expulsion of the Palestinians, and AIPAC the American Israeli PAC owns our government lock, stock and barrel...We need a Political Revolution of Campaign Finance Laws!




The official name for Israel's latest assault on Gaza is "Operation Protective Edge." A better name would be "Operation Déjà Vu." As it has on several prior occasions, Israel is using weapons provided by U.S. taxpayers to bombard the captive and impoverished Palestinians in Gaza, where the death toll now exceeds 500. As usual, the U.S. government is siding with Israel, even though most American leaders understand Israel instigated the latest round of violence, is not acting with restraint, and that its actions make Washington look callous and hypocritical in the eyes of most of the world. This Orwellian situation is eloquent testimony to the continued political clout of AIPAC (American Israel Public Affairs Committee) and the other hardline elements of the Israel lobby. There is no other plausible explanation for the supine behavior of the U.S. Congress--including some of its most "progressive" members--or the shallow hypocrisy of the Obama administration, especially those officials known for their purported commitment to human rights.

The immediate cause of this latest one-sided bloodletting was the kidnapping and murder of three Israeli hikers in the occupied West Bank, followed shortly thereafter by the kidnapping and fatal burning of a Palestinian teenager by several Israelis. According to J.J. Goldberg's reporting in the Jewish newspaper Forward, the Netanyahu government blamed Hamas for the kidnappings without evidence and pretended the kidnapped Israelis were still alive for several weeks, even though there was evidence indicating the victims were already dead. It perpetrated this deception in order to whip up anti-Arab sentiment and make it easier to justify punitive operations in the West Bank and Gaza.
And why did Netanyahu decide to go on another rampage in Gaza? As Nathan Thrall of the International Crisis Group points out, the real motive is neither vengeance nor a desire to protect Israel from Hamas' rocket fire, which has been virtually non-existent over the past two years and is largely ineffectual anyway. Netanyahu's real purpose was to undermine the recent agreement between Hamas and Fatah for a unity government. Given Netanyahu's personal commitment to keeping the West Bank and creating a "greater Israel," the last thing he wants is a unified Palestinian leadership that might press him to get serious about a two-state solution. Ergo, he sought to isolate and severely damage Hamas and drive a new wedge between the two Palestinian factions.

damn straight.thats why they have turned a blind ear to their murder of american Rachel corrie.

 

[Kondor3]

Do you really need more than the beach incident?...

Yes, if we are to pursue allegations of 'murder' on a systemic and substantive scale, but this will do for starters.

...Eyewitness reports of the artillery chasing them up the beach in broad daylight...

Some eyewitness accounts have claimed it was naval gunfire, others claim it was artillery shelling, some claim it was an airstrike (using missile)...

Some claim that the original target was a fishing shack in which the kids had been hiding or playing or something, and that they subsequently ran onto the open beach... others claim that the entire incident took place on the open beach...

This tangled jumble of foreign journalists observing from hotel balconies and Gazans at ground level cannot get it story straight, other than the last aspect or two of the shooting, and the outcome, so...

We do not have evidence of 'murder' of children in any of this.

...while the IDF has state of the art imaging equipment, plus drones of every size and precision munitions...

Was the munition used a 'smart' munition?

Did IDF personnel realize that they were firing at kids?

I dunno, and I don't think we can tell from your comment, above, either.

...Well, as it takes years for the IDF to agree to their people committing a crime, I do wonder who's report you will take as 'substantive evidence'...

No crime has been committed, insofar as anyone knows, so far.

As to what would reasonably constitute 'substantive evidence'...

I dunno...

Eyewitness by militarily competent people who can tell an airstrike from a gunboat shelling from an artillery (arty) salvo?

Who would be in a position to know whether the targeting system involved long-distance high-rez optics that would have allowed a reasonable person to discern children from adults at middling-to-high altitude or offshore or several miles distant at an arty firebase?

Locking down some of these basics helps us to determine whether a reasonable person would tentatively identify this as 'murder of children' or 'targeting mistake' or something else.

Justice should be served in this case; it's just that the pro-Palestinian side had the Israeli shooter(s) tried, convicted and strung-up from a crane, before the bodies had stopped twitching.

...Seems to me it is right there on the thread, with every denial possible put against it, but there is the substantive evidence...

All I know so far is that we had a 'shooting' that killed four Palestinian kids and that the IDF was probably responsible for those deaths.

We do not, however, have any evidence of 'murder', in either a technical / legal OR even in a commonly-acceptable metaphorical sense of the use of the word.

...The UN certainly thinks so...

The UN Human Rights folks have been gunning for Israel for years; rendering them less than reliable (although certainly more so that Hamas et al).

...Though the US opposes it (of course) they are really keen to put Israel up on war crimes charges...

Of course the UNHRW wants a pound of Israeli flesh; again, they've been after that for years.

...Like a desperate criminal Israel is trying to get off on technicalities.

Or, alternatively, the Israelis are thinking: "We're in the middle of a shooting war and we haven't got time for this kind of chickenshit just now. Come back and bitch at us again when we aren't so busy. Meanwhile, it was probably such-and-so. Dunno. We'll figure it out."

Frankly, I doubt that the Israelis are all that worried or 'desperate' about one pissant incident - as tragic as that was to the kids and their families.

 

[Kondor3]

...thats why they have turned a blind ear to their murder of american Rachel corrie.

You mean the poor unfortunate dumbass kid who thought she could coerce Israeli military bulldozer operators not to knock down a house, and got her ass run over by the machine?

 

[MikeK]

If you're proposing that we shut down all lobbying of Congress, it would be an improvement.

If you're proposing that we shut down all lobbying that pertains primarily to foreign interests, that would be an improvement as well.

If you're proposing that we shut down the pro-Israel lobby and leave the rest standing on their feet, well... not so much.

Prior to the 9/11 attack I never gave the slightest thought to Israel. But when the name Osama bin Laden became relevant and I researched his significance I became convinced that our military support of Israel was the primary provocation for the 9/11 attack and will continue to provoke fanatical terrorist actions against us.

I am not an anti-Semite. I have no problem with the Israeli people and Jews in general. But I am hostile to the Israeli government, its tactics, and its contemptuous attitude toward the outer world -- including the U.S., which has contributed substantially to its very survival. I am aware of no reason for the U.S. to continue what is in obvious fact a wholly counterproductive, costly, and extremely dangerous relationship with Israel.

The bottom line where my feelings toward Israel are concerned is I frankly don't care who prevails in that endless and ancient hostility. I wouldn't care if both the Israelis and the Palestinians wipe each other out to the last man standing. That fight is none of my business -- and it's none of my Country's business.

Referring to your point; I'm aware that the U.S. provides "aid" to other nations. But I'm also aware that the aid we give to Egypt occurs in large measure to secure a friendly disposition toward Israel. Also, none of the "aid" we provide to other nations provokes the hostility of such menacing elements as Al Qaeda. If it did I would be just as opposed to it as I am to our support of Israel.

I understand that being Jewish is the dominant factor in this controversy. I am not Jewish so I have absolutely no spiritual motivation or concern where this Jewish state is concerned. And my opinion where Jewish Americans are concerned is they need to make up their collective mind about their primary loyalty. America is the homeland that makes them safe and prosperous, but if their primary loyalty is to Israel they should migrate there rather than remaining safely here while financing AIPAC and waving Israel's flag. Because the singular purpose of AIPAC (and JINSA, etc.) is that of bribing the U.S. Congress to continue jeopardizing U.S. security and risking war by treating Israel as if it were the 51st state of our Union.

Can you offer a good reason for doing so?

 

[Daniyel]

If you're proposing that we shut down all lobbying of Congress, it would be an improvement.

If you're proposing that we shut down all lobbying that pertains primarily to foreign interests, that would be an improvement as well.

If you're proposing that we shut down the pro-Israel lobby and leave the rest standing on their feet, well... not so much.

Prior to the 9/11 attack I never gave the slightest thought to Israel. But when the name Osama bin Laden became relevant and I researched his significance I became convinced that our military support of Israel was the primary provocation for the 9/11 attack and will continue to provoke fanatical terrorist actions against us.

I am not an anti-Semite. I have no problem with the Israeli people and Jews in general. But I am hostile to the Israeli government, its tactics, and its contemptuous attitude toward the outer world -- including the U.S., which has contributed substantially to its very survival. I am aware of no reason for the U.S. to continue what is in obvious fact a wholly counterproductive, costly, and extremely dangerous relationship with Israel.

The bottom line where my feelings toward Israel are concerned is I frankly don't care who prevails in that endless and ancient hostility. I wouldn't care if both the Israelis and the Palestinians wipe each other out to the last man standing. That fight is none of my business -- and it's none of my Country's business.

Referring to your point; I'm aware that the U.S. provides "aid" to other nations. But I'm also aware that the aid we give to Egypt occurs in large measure to secure a friendly disposition toward Israel. Also, none of the "aid" we provide to other nations provokes the hostility of such menacing elements as Al Qaeda. If it did I would be just as opposed to it as I am to our support of Israel.

I understand that being Jewish is the dominant factor in this controversy. I am not Jewish so I have absolutely no spiritual motivation or concern where this Jewish state is concerned. And my opinion where Jewish Americans are concerned is they need to make up their collective mind about their primary loyalty. America is the homeland that makes them safe and prosperous, but if their primary loyalty is to Israel they should migrate there rather than remaining safely here while financing AIPAC and waving Israel's flag. Because the singular purpose of AIPAC (and JINSA, etc.) is that of bribing the U.S. Congress to continue jeopardizing U.S. security and risking war by treating Israel as if it were the 51st state of our Union.

Can you offer a good reason for doing so?

I never heard anyone from el Qaeda or ISIS blaming the US for anything related to Israel.
This is why ISIS Leader also threaten the US now?
This is why ISIS killing all Christians they can find?
All of that because of Israel?
The only carriers of Terror attack based on religion is the Islam, wake up Mike, that nice anonymous mask also represent another group of Hacktivists mostly from Indonesia/Europe, research about them.
And the fantasy world where Terror considered a solution is only in the movies, like Vendetta maybe, but some people don't understand how real is the violence.. [MENTION=23819]MikeK[/MENTION]

 

[MikeK]

...thats why they have turned a blind ear to their murder of american Rachel corrie.

You mean the poor unfortunate dumbass kid who thought she could coerce Israeli military bulldozer operators not to knock down a house, and got her ass run over by the machine?

That attitude and disposition does a lot to shape gentile American feelings toward American Jews.

Rachel Corrie was a teen-age American girl. Regardless of her motivation the most that should have been done with her is a boot in the ass and deportation. What was done to her was cold-blooded, arrogant murder. The act, itself, and the tenacious willingness to defend it as an accident, affords revealing insight into the Israeli mentality and what gentile Americans can expect from it.

I regard the Rachel Corrie incident as a kind of socio-political indicator.

 

[Daniyel]

...thats why they have turned a blind ear to their murder of american Rachel corrie.

You mean the poor unfortunate dumbass kid who thought she could coerce Israeli military bulldozer operators not to knock down a house, and got her ass run over by the machine?

That attitude and disposition does a lot to shape gentile American feelings toward American Jews.

Rachel Corrie was a teen-age American girl. Regardless of her motivation the most that should have been done with her is a boot in the ass and deportation. What was done to her was cold-blooded, arrogant murder. The act, itself, and the tenacious willingness to defend it as an accident, affords revealing insight into the Israeli mentality and what gentile Americans can expect from it.

I regard the Rachel Corrie incident as a kind of socio-political indicator.

How do you know?

 

[irosie91]

I live in a city-----kids die often----in accidents----they get hit by large vehicles---
even school buses. Rachel Corrie died of an accident involving a large vehicle.
Last nite-----just a few blocks from my house-----a six year old fell out of a window---
----sixth floor----the poor kid died.....it was an accident

 

[MikeK]

I never heard anyone from el Qaeda or ISIS blaming the US for anything related to Israel.

Really? Then you must be very young and very uninformed.

I'll assume you know who Osama bin Laden was, and that he organized, financed, and initiated the 9/11 attack on the Trade Center. The following is excerpted from a transcript of Frontline's 1998 interview with bin Laden.

(Excerpt)

[. . .]We know at least one reason behind the symbolic participation of the Western forces and that is to support the Zionist plans for expansion of what is called the Greater Israel. Surely, their presence is not out of concern over their interests in the region. ... Their presence has no meaning save one and that is to offer support to the Jews in Palestine who are in need of their Christian brothers to achieve full control over the Arab Peninsula which they intend to make an important part of the so called Greater Israel. ...

Who Is Bin Laden? - Interview With Osama Bin Laden (in May 1998) | Hunting Bin Laden | FRONTLINE | PBS

(Close)

This is why ISIS Leader also threaten the US now?

U.S. support of Israel is the root cause of most Islamic hostility toward the U.S.

This is why ISIS killing all Christians they can find?

No. The Iraq debacle was our own making and is quite enough for us to deal with without the added burden imposed by our support of Israel. If anything it emphasizes the need to alter our posture in the Middle East by ridding ourselves of the major provocation.

The only carriers of Terror attack based on religion is the Islam, wake up Mike, that nice anonymous mask also represent another group of Hacktivists mostly from Indonesia/Europe, research about them.

I really don't know what you're getting at here but my avatar has absolutely nothing to do with the topic at hand.

 

[irosie91]

a caliphate man claims that DA JOOOOOS want Saudi Arabia-----I am so delighted
that pali supporters are willing to demonstrate their endless stupidity. For those
who do not know------part and parcel of Islamic belief is "DA JOOOOOOS WANT TO
DESTROY ISLAAAAM' I learned that one long ago-----I did not have the heart
to tell the poor idiot----that ......de joooos do not give islam a second thought----or even
a first.. Of course Bin Laden----named joooos as the ENEMEEEEES OF ISLAAAAAAMl...
he would also name Christians, hindus, Buddhists etc etc etc etc

however-----since all non muslims are DA ENEMEEEEES OF ISLAAAAAAM----it is a little silly
to focus on DA JOOOOOOS

 

[montelatici]

...thats why they have turned a blind ear to their murder of american Rachel corrie.

You mean the poor unfortunate dumbass kid who thought she could coerce Israeli military bulldozer operators not to knock down a house, and got her ass run over by the machine?

As usual, America's Israel Firsters defend Israel even when they kill Americans. Demented bunch of people.

 

[Daniyel]

I never heard anyone from el Qaeda or ISIS blaming the US for anything related to Israel.

Really? Then you must be very young and very uninformed.

I'll assume you know who Osama bin Laden was, and that he organized, financed, and initiated the 9/11 attack on the Trade Center. The following is excerpted from a transcript of Frontline's 1998 interview with bin Laden.

(Excerpt)

[. . .]We know at least one reason behind the symbolic participation of the Western forces and that is to support the Zionist plans for expansion of what is called the Greater Israel. Surely, their presence is not out of concern over their interests in the region. ... Their presence has no meaning save one and that is to offer support to the Jews in Palestine who are in need of their Christian brothers to achieve full control over the Arab Peninsula which they intend to make an important part of the so called Greater Israel. ...

Who Is Bin Laden? - Interview With Osama Bin Laden (in May 1998) | Hunting Bin Laden | FRONTLINE | PBS

(Close)

This is why ISIS Leader also threaten the US now?

U.S. support of Israel is the root cause of most Islamic hostility toward the U.S.

This is why ISIS killing all Christians they can find?

No. The Iraq debacle was our own making and is quite enough for us to deal with without the added burden imposed by our support of Israel. If anything it emphasizes the need to alter our posture in the Middle East by ridding ourselves of the major provocation.

The only carriers of Terror attack based on religion is the Islam, wake up Mike, that nice anonymous mask also represent another group of Hacktivists mostly from Indonesia/Europe, research about them.

I really don't know what you're getting at here but my avatar has absolutely nothing to do with the topic at hand.

I Never heard of that interview with Bin Laden, thank you.
However my point is very clear, The hostility of ISIS to Christians is pretty much the same toward all religions and its not because of the US aiding Israel, its simply as Bin Laden stated 'Christian brothers' - its the classical convert or kill Islamic radicals and ignoring that fact is very dangerous, so by now Bin Laden focused on the US, why didn't he bother focusing on Israel? much easier for terror infrastructures to operate inside Arab states and Israel is pretty much surrounded with Arab States.

Christian brothers to achieve full control over the Arab Peninsula which they intend to make an important part of the so called Greater Israel

Like I said before, ignoring a threat won't make it disappear, the only luck against terror so far is that all the Arab Terror is based on Islam, and due to the chaos between its branches they are fighting each other, do you have any idea what could happen if not?
One day you'll wake up and instead of 'Arab League' you will face 'Arab Union'.
Only the hate for us gather them together, so basically you're saying lets wipe entire Israel, later on pray for peace after all the killing of Christians and international terror attacks in Europe? This is fairly land.

 

[Slyhunter]

If you're proposing that we shut down all lobbying of Congress, it would be an improvement.

If you're proposing that we shut down all lobbying that pertains primarily to foreign interests, that would be an improvement as well.

If you're proposing that we shut down the pro-Israel lobby and leave the rest standing on their feet, well... not so much.

Prior to the 9/11 attack I never gave the slightest thought to Israel. But when the name Osama bin Laden became relevant and I researched his significance I became convinced that our military support of Israel was the primary provocation for the 9/11 attack and will continue to provoke fanatical terrorist actions against us.

I am not an anti-Semite. I have no problem with the Israeli people and Jews in general. But I am hostile to the Israeli government, its tactics, and its contemptuous attitude toward the outer world -- including the U.S., which has contributed substantially to its very survival. I am aware of no reason for the U.S. to continue what is in obvious fact a wholly counterproductive, costly, and extremely dangerous relationship with Israel.

The bottom line where my feelings toward Israel are concerned is I frankly don't care who prevails in that endless and ancient hostility. I wouldn't care if both the Israelis and the Palestinians wipe each other out to the last man standing. That fight is none of my business -- and it's none of my Country's business.

Referring to your point; I'm aware that the U.S. provides "aid" to other nations. But I'm also aware that the aid we give to Egypt occurs in large measure to secure a friendly disposition toward Israel. Also, none of the "aid" we provide to other nations provokes the hostility of such menacing elements as Al Qaeda. If it did I would be just as opposed to it as I am to our support of Israel.

I understand that being Jewish is the dominant factor in this controversy. I am not Jewish so I have absolutely no spiritual motivation or concern where this Jewish state is concerned. And my opinion where Jewish Americans are concerned is they need to make up their collective mind about their primary loyalty. America is the homeland that makes them safe and prosperous, but if their primary loyalty is to Israel they should migrate there rather than remaining safely here while financing AIPAC and waving Israel's flag. Because the singular purpose of AIPAC (and JINSA, etc.) is that of bribing the U.S. Congress to continue jeopardizing U.S. security and risking war by treating Israel as if it were the 51st state of our Union.

Can you offer a good reason for doing so?

That's weird, prior to 9/11 I was oblivious about the Middle East. Since 9/11 I realize that Muslims are terrorist who want to conquer the world through any means necessary and has to be stopped also by any means necessary. Everywhere there is a Muslim there are terrorist complaining that we won't bow to their religion and kiss their ass.

Fuck them Arabs.

 

[Slyhunter]

...thats why they have turned a blind ear to their murder of american Rachel corrie.

You mean the poor unfortunate dumbass kid who thought she could coerce Israeli military bulldozer operators not to knock down a house, and got her ass run over by the machine?

That attitude and disposition does a lot to shape gentile American feelings toward American Jews.

Rachel Corrie was a teen-age American girl. Regardless of her motivation the most that should have been done with her is a boot in the ass and deportation. What was done to her was cold-blooded, arrogant murder. The act, itself, and the tenacious willingness to defend it as an accident, affords revealing insight into the Israeli mentality and what gentile Americans can expect from it.

I regard the Rachel Corrie incident as a kind of socio-political indicator.

They couldn't arrest her and cart her off for fear of local Palestinians wanting to kill anyone who tried. So their only alternative was to give in and let them win, or run her over. I think they made the best choice. Terrorists should never be allowed to win.

 

[Slyhunter]

I never heard anyone from el Qaeda or ISIS blaming the US for anything related to Israel.

Really? Then you must be very young and very uninformed.

I'll assume you know who Osama bin Laden was, and that he organized, financed, and initiated the 9/11 attack on the Trade Center. The following is excerpted from a transcript of Frontline's 1998 interview with bin Laden.

(Excerpt)

[. . .]We know at least one reason behind the symbolic participation of the Western forces and that is to support the Zionist plans for expansion of what is called the Greater Israel. Surely, their presence is not out of concern over their interests in the region. ... Their presence has no meaning save one and that is to offer support to the Jews in Palestine who are in need of their Christian brothers to achieve full control over the Arab Peninsula which they intend to make an important part of the so called Greater Israel. ...

Who Is Bin Laden? - Interview With Osama Bin Laden (in May 1998) | Hunting Bin Laden | FRONTLINE | PBS

(Close)

This is why ISIS Leader also threaten the US now?

U.S. support of Israel is the root cause of most Islamic hostility toward the U.S.

This is why ISIS killing all Christians they can find?

No. The Iraq debacle was our own making and is quite enough for us to deal with without the added burden imposed by our support of Israel. If anything it emphasizes the need to alter our posture in the Middle East by ridding ourselves of the major provocation.

The only carriers of Terror attack based on religion is the Islam, wake up Mike, that nice anonymous mask also represent another group of Hacktivists mostly from Indonesia/Europe, research about them.

I really don't know what you're getting at here but my avatar has absolutely nothing to do with the topic at hand.

well damn then I guess you missed this.

Full text: bin Laden's 'letter to America' | World news | Observer.co.uk

Q2) As for the second question that we want to answer: What are we calling you to, and what do we want from you?

(1) The first thing that we are calling you to is Islam.

(2) The second thing we call you to, is to stop your oppression, lies, immorality and debauchery that has spread among you.

(a) We call you to be a people of manners, principles, honour, and purity; to reject the immoral acts of fornication, homosexuality, intoxicants, gambling's, and trading with interest.

(i) You are the nation who, rather than ruling by the Shariah of Allah in its Constitution and Laws, choose to invent your own laws as you will and desire. You separate religion from your policies, contradicting the pure nature which affirms Absolute Authority to the Lord and your Creator. You flee from the embarrassing question posed to you: How is it possible for Allah the Almighty to create His creation, grant them power over all the creatures and land, grant them all the amenities of life, and then deny them that which they are most in need of: knowledge of the laws which govern their lives?

(ii) You are the nation that permits Usury, which has been forbidden by all the religions. Yet you build your economy and investments on Usury. As a result of this, in all its different forms and guises, the Jews have taken control of your economy, through which they have then taken control of your media, and now control all aspects of your life making you their servants and achieving their aims at your expense; precisely what Benjamin Franklin warned you against.

(iii) You are a nation that permits the production, trading and usage of intoxicants. You also permit drugs, and only forbid the trade of them, even though your nation is the largest consumer of them.

(iv) You are a nation that permits acts of immorality, and you consider them to be pillars of personal freedom. You have continued to sink down this abyss from level to level until incest has spread amongst you, in the face of which neither your sense of honour nor your laws object.

Who can forget your President Clinton's immoral acts committed in the official Oval office? After that you did not even bring him to account, other than that he 'made a mistake', after which everything passed with no punishment. Is there a worse kind of event for which your name will go down in history and remembered by nations?

(v) You are a nation that permits gambling in its all forms. The companies practice this as well, resulting in the investments becoming active and the criminals becoming rich.

(vi) You are a nation that exploits women like consumer products or advertising tools calling upon customers to purchase them. You use women to serve passengers, visitors, and strangers to increase your profit margins. You then rant that you support the liberation of women.

(vii) You are a nation that practices the trade of sex in all its forms, directly and indirectly. Giant corporations and establishments are established on this, under the name of art, entertainment, tourism and freedom, and other deceptive names you attribute to it.

(viii) And because of all this, you have been described in history as a nation that spreads diseases that were unknown to man in the past. Go ahead and boast to the nations of man, that you brought them AIDS as a Satanic American Invention.

(4) We also advise you to stop supporting Israel, and to end your support of the Indians in Kashmir, the Russians against the Chechens and to also cease supporting the Manila Government against the Muslims in Southern Philippines.

The Nation of honour and respect:

"But honour, power and glory belong to Allah, and to His Messenger (Muhammad- peace be upon him) and to the believers." [Quran 63:8]

"So do not become weak (against your enemy), nor be sad, and you will be*superior ( in victory )if you are indeed (true) believers" [Quran 3:139]

The Nation of Martyrdom; the Nation that desires death more than you desire life:

"Think not of those who are killed in the way of Allah as dead. Nay, they are alive with their Lord, and they are being provided for. They rejoice in what Allah has bestowed upon them from His bounty and rejoice for the sake of those who have not yet joined them, but are left behind (not yet martyred) that on them no fear shall come, nor shall they grieve. They rejoice in a grace and a bounty from Allah, and that Allah will not waste the reward of the believers." [Quran 3:169-171]

The Nation of victory and success that Allah has promised:

"It is He Who has sent His Messenger (Muhammad peace be upon him) with guidance and the religion of truth (Islam), to make it victorious over all other religions even though the Polytheists hate it." [Quran 61:9]

"Allah has decreed that 'Verily it is I and My Messengers who shall be victorious.' Verily Allah is All-Powerful, All-Mighty." [Quran 58:21]

The Islamic Nation that was able to dismiss and destroy the previous evil Empires like yourself; the Nation that rejects your attacks, wishes to remove your evils, and is prepared to fight you. You are well aware that the Islamic Nation, from the very core of its soul, despises your haughtiness and arrogance.

I repeat fuck Muslims, eradicate the rats wherever you find them.

 

[pbel]

The terrorists HAVE won. Irgun. Haganah. You in the US meet their vision of perfection for their terrorist advances. All the killing hardware, from you for free, and with cash-back too.

Don't be too hard on Sir LimpDick, his brain is Limp Too!

 

[pbel]

AIPAC Is the Only Explanation for America's Morally Bankrupt Israel Policy*|*Stephen M. WaltIt is obvious that Israel wants tension and war to achieve the murder and expulsion of the Palestinians, and AIPAC the American Israeli PAC owns our government lock, stock and barrel...We need a Political Revolution of Campaign Finance Laws!

That Harward "professor" of "international affairs" declared in 2010 that "Saudi Arabia and the other Arab states have no meaningful lobby in Washington", which is, in view of the enormous US oil interests, schmucky. Walt is a long-time long-standing morally and intellectually bankrupt fag, of course.[/size]

"As Nathan Thrall of the International Crisis Group points out, the real motive is neither vengeance nor a desire to protect Israel from Hamas' rocket fire, which has been virtually non-existent over the past two years and is largely ineffectual anyway.

The the International Crisis Group - George Soros. heh

Gee, I always thought you were a Fag, of Course...

 

[Slyhunter]

AIPAC Is the Only Explanation for America's Morally Bankrupt Israel Policy*|*Stephen M. WaltIt is obvious that Israel wants tension and war to achieve the murder and expulsion of the Palestinians, and AIPAC the American Israeli PAC owns our government lock, stock and barrel...We need a Political Revolution of Campaign Finance Laws!

That Harward "professor" of "international affairs" declared in 2010 that "Saudi Arabia and the other Arab states have no meaningful lobby in Washington", which is, in view of the enormous US oil interests, schmucky. Walt is a long-time long-standing morally and intellectually bankrupt fag, of course.[/size]

"As Nathan Thrall of the International Crisis Group points out, the real motive is neither vengeance nor a desire to protect Israel from Hamas' rocket fire, which has been virtually non-existent over the past two years and is largely ineffectual anyway.

The the International Crisis Group - George Soros. heh

Gee, I always thought you were a Fag, of Course...

What does his sexual orientation have to do with anything?

 

[pbel]

That Harward "professor" of "international affairs" declared in 2010 that "Saudi Arabia and the other Arab states have no meaningful lobby in Washington", which is, in view of the enormous US oil interests, schmucky. Walt is a long-time long-standing morally and intellectually bankrupt fag, of course.[/size]
The the International Crisis Group - George Soros. heh

Gee, I always thought you were a Fag, of Course...

What does his sexual orientation have to do with anything?

Nothing...ask DocMauser, he brought it up?