After Taking $300,000 In PPP, Idaho Republican Writes OP-ED Calling For End To "Handouts"

[evenflow1969]

Loans are paid back. These will not be paid back. Just because politicians called them loans for cover does not make them so.

They will be paid back if they were not used in a certain way as my previous post has shown.

None will be paid back. I sure would love such a "loan".

Yep,if we had any brains we would have scrambled to start a corp and gotten our hands on some of it

If you supported Socialism for the "free markets". I don't.

What the fuck do you think ppe is. Do you even know what socialism Is? Or you just bandi it around like a catch phrase like most. The long and short of it is we got fucked on ppe. Forget catch phrases just look at ppe alone by itself. Transfer of wealth with no return on investment.

 

[Shelzin]

Uh,huh. Look at stats for paying back tax abatement and tell me if ya still believe

Why are you bringing in a state tax to refute a federal ... What?

 

[evenflow1969]

None will be paid back. I sure would love such a "loan".

Ok... I'll post it again, since you missed it the first time.



Edit: As I currently understand it and I haven't looked into it that deeply, you can only ask for loan forgiveness under certain circumstances...

Otherwise it's just a REALLY fuck'n cheap loan.

Edit: I'm wrong. Kind of. You are eligible for forgiveness, if you used said money as intended. If you didn't, it was a really cheap fuck'n loan.

Review PPP loan forgiveness application requirements | Square Support Center - US

A PPP loan is designed to provide a direct incentive for small businesses to keep their workers on the payroll. PPP loans are eligible for full or partial forgiveness if the money is used for qualifying costs including payroll, rent, mortgage interest, or utilities.

You may be eligible for for full forgiveness if:

• Entire loan is used for qualifying costs:
• At least 60% is used for payroll
• And the rest is used for business rent, business utilities, or mortgage interest on a business property
• You either don’t lay off employees or rehire them by December 31, 2020
• For your employees who make less than $100,000 a year, you either don’t cut their wages by more than 25% or you restore their original wages by December 31, 2020
• Note: If you received an EIDL Advance, the amount of that EIDL Advance will be deducted from your total forgiveness amount.

I'm wrong. Kind of. You are eligible for forgiveness, if you used said money as intended. If you didn't, it was a really cheap fuck'n loan.

A loan is paid back. Gave money by the government of other people's money to use as the government supports is Socialism, not a loan.

The shit will not be paid back we got fucked

 

[pknopp]

Loans are paid back. These will not be paid back. Just because politicians called them loans for cover does not make them so.

They will be paid back if they were not used in a certain way as my previous post has shown.

None will be paid back. I sure would love such a "loan".

Yep,if we had any brains we would have scrambled to start a corp and gotten our hands on some of it

If you supported Socialism for the "free markets". I don't.

What the fuck do you think ppe is. Do you even know what socialism Is? Or you just bandi it around like a catch phrase like most. The long and short of it is we got fucked on ppe. Forget catch phrases just look at ppe alone by itself. Transfer of wealth with no return on investment.

Right, not a loan.

 

[Shelzin]

I'm wrong. Kind of. You are eligible for forgiveness, if you used said money as intended. If you didn't, it was a really cheap fuck'n loan.

A loan is paid back. Gave money by the government of other people's money to use as the government supports is Socialism, not a loan.

It is a loan... Something else determines if it gets paid back or not. Not the loan itself. You have a problem with whatever it is that forgives the PPP... Not the PPP itself.

 

[evenflow1969]

Loans are paid back. These will not be paid back. Just because politicians called them loans for cover does not make them so.

They will be paid back if they were not used in a certain way as my previous post has shown.

None will be paid back. I sure would love such a "loan".

Yep,if we had any brains we would have scrambled to start a corp and gotten our hands on some of it

If you supported Socialism for the "free markets". I don't.

What the fuck do you think ppe is. Do you even know what socialism Is? Or you just bandi it around like a catch phrase like most. The long and short of it is we got fucked on ppe. Forget catch phrases just look at ppe alone by itself. Transfer of wealth with no return on investment.

Right, not a loan.

Not a loan. That is what I have been saying. Finally some one gets it

 

[Shelzin]

What the fuck do you think ppe is. Do you even know what socialism Is? Or you just bandi it around like a catch phrase like most. The long and short of it is we got fucked on ppe. Forget catch phrases just look at ppe alone by itself. Transfer of wealth with no return on investment.

Mmm... Yeah... Not sure I disagree. I think there are a few good points in it, but it would be better to do something else with the money.

 

[pknopp]

Loans are paid back. These will not be paid back. Just because politicians called them loans for cover does not make them so.

They will be paid back if they were not used in a certain way as my previous post has shown.

None will be paid back. I sure would love such a "loan".

Yep,if we had any brains we would have scrambled to start a corp and gotten our hands on some of it

If you supported Socialism for the "free markets". I don't.

What the fuck do you think ppe is. Do you even know what socialism Is? Or you just bandi it around like a catch phrase like most. The long and short of it is we got fucked on ppe. Forget catch phrases just look at ppe alone by itself. Transfer of wealth with no return on investment.

Right, not a loan.

Not a loan. That is what I have been saying. Finally some one gets it

Everyone gets it. Many simply love their corporate Socialism.

 

[Shelzin]

Everyone gets it. Many simply love their corporate Socialism.

No sir... Not at all. But words have meanings. And you are using them incorrectly.

 

[pknopp]

Everyone gets it. Many simply love their corporate Socialism.

No sir... Not at all. But words have meanings. And you are using them incorrectly.

The money will not be paid back. Not a loan. It's simple.

 

[evenflow1969]

What the fuck do you think ppe is. Do you even know what socialism Is? Or you just bandi it around like a catch phrase like most. The long and short of it is we got fucked on ppe. Forget catch phrases just look at ppe alone by itself. Transfer of wealth with no return on investment.

Mmm... Yeah... Not sure I disagree. I think there are a few good points in it, but it would be better to do something else with the money.

We got fucked by it. That being said both sides the isle voted for that shit. We were in a crisis while making this bad choice but come on we fucking adults let's have cooler heads before making such idiotic choices.

 

[evenflow1969]

Everyone gets it. Many simply love their corporate Socialism.

No sir... Not at all. But words have meanings. And you are using them incorrectly.

The money will not be paid back. Not a loan. It's simple.

Most of life is when we get the screaming idiots out our head and take the time to look at the actual program. Wanna get real passed look at how we do on tax abatement on real estate. Talk about burning fucking money it will raise the hair on your neck.

 

[Shelzin]

The money will not be paid back. Not a loan. It's simple.

The money will be paid back if not used in a certain way. But it's a loan either way. Again... Your problem is with the people who forgive the loan.. Not the loan itself.

 

[pknopp]

The money will not be paid back. Not a loan. It's simple.

The money will be paid back if not used in a certain way. But it's a loan either way. Again... Your problem is with the people who forgive the loan.. Not the loan itself.

"Loan" was nothing but political cover. It was a massive corporate subsidy.

 

[Shelzin]

Most of life is when we get the screaming idiots out our head and take the time to look at the actual program. Wanna get real passed look at how we do on tax abatement on real estate. Talk about burning fucking money it will raise the hair on your neck.

Why do you keep bringing up a state tax when we are talking about a federal loan?

Now... I think I've been abundantly clear on my views of socialism and the government in general. I'll even agree with you that there are better ways to spend the money. Certainly. Absolutely.

Frankly I'm annoyed that they called it the Paycheck Protection Program... That's more or less the same thing as BLM only from the government. But it's still a loan.

With that... I agree to disagree.

 

[Shelzin]

The money will not be paid back. Not a loan. It's simple.

The money will be paid back if not used in a certain way. But it's a loan either way. Again... Your problem is with the people who forgive the loan.. Not the loan itself.

"Loan" was nothing but political cover. It was a massive corporate subsidy.

Ok.

 

[Shelzin]

We got fucked by it. That being said both sides the isle voted for that shit. We were in a crisis while making this bad choice but come on we fucking adults let's have cooler heads before making such idiotic choices.

I don't believe the differences between Democrat and Republican are that far apart.

 

[evenflow1969]

The money will not be paid back. Not a loan. It's simple.

The money will be paid back if not used in a certain way. But it's a loan either way. Again... Your problem is with the people who forgive the loan.. Not the loan itself.

My fucking problem is you and I get a 1200 dollar check. This fucking senstor gets a 300,000 check and we all three of us owe the federal government the same amount on the debt. The Senators did no service for the check yet his is way bigger than mine and yours check. The bank lends the money collects interest and fees on the loans. The senator gets a huge check and the federal government pays back the loan. In the end we the tax payer pays the bill. Not the guy who got the big check. I hold those who wrote the law that made this possible and those who voted for it.

 

[evenflow1969]

We got fucked by it. That being said both sides the isle voted for that shit. We were in a crisis while making this bad choice but come on we fucking adults let's have cooler heads before making such idiotic choices.

I don't believe the differences between Democrat and Republican are that far apart.

Hell no we are not but the powers that be get to fuck us hard when we are at each others throats. I am a Democrat who runs a business with his two best friends since they were 11 and both of them are Republicans. I spent 2 Saturdays ago in a woods with a family of 4 generations of Republicans in it with me and was the sole Democrat there. Watched one of my best friends grandsons get his first dear. I am a Democrat that is a professional out doorsman. I hunt and fish for a living. Most my clients are Republicans. Surprisingly of the other guides and captains I compete with it is about half and half with the Republicans having a slight edge. I use to be in government roads and bridges for 25 years. Again dealt with about half and half. This I have to say about charter Captains in the western basin of lake erie. The best is a chubby Hispanic Democrat. I never use up my limit on a charter. I get my 36 and back to the dock so I can try and beet Ely casting to limit. I win once or twice in ten tries. You wanna win against the best ya gotta fish against them. Some day I will take half

 

[pknopp]

We got fucked by it. That being said both sides the isle voted for that shit. We were in a crisis while making this bad choice but come on we fucking adults let's have cooler heads before making such idiotic choices.

I don't believe the differences between Democrat and Republican are that far apart.

Hell no we are not but the powers that be get to fuck us hard when we are at each others throats. I am a Democrat who runs a business with his two best friends since they were 11 and both of them are Republicans. I spent 2 Saturdays ago in a woods with a family of 4 generations of Republicans in it with me and was the sole Democrat there. Watched one of my best friends grandsons get his first dear. I am a Democrat that is a professional out doorsman. I hunt and fish for a living. Most my clients are Republicans. Surprisingly of the other guides and captains I compete with it is about half and half with the Republicans having a slight edge. I use to be in government roads and bridges for 25 years. Again dealt with about half and half. This I have to say about charter Captains in the western basin of lake erie. The best is a chubby Hispanic Democrat. I never use up my limit on a charter. I get my 36 and back to the dock so I can try and beet Ely casting to limit. I win once or twice in ten tries. You wanna win against the best ya gotta fish against them. Some day I will take half

Is political affiliation on the app you use to get clients?