After 12 years of conservatism most people cant afford to switch the heating on

Tommy Tainant

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This is a direct result of conservative policies.
Refusing to invest in renewables and leaving us dependent on world energy markets.
Lo wages have also lead to people not having any savings.
Nothing in conservative Britain works. Nothing.
 

This is a direct result of conservative policies.
Refusing to invest in renewables and leaving us dependent on world energy markets.
Lo wages have also lead to people not having any savings.
Nothing in conservative Britain works. Nothing.
incorrect.

This is a direct result of the 'green energy policy. Last time clown boi.

There ARE no Conservatives in Europe, least of all in the UK.
 
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This is a direct result of conservative policies.
Refusing to invest in renewables and leaving us dependent on world energy markets.
Lo wages have also lead to people not having any savings.
Nothing in conservative Britain works. Nothing.
It's truly a scourge that reaches the rest of the world's countries if it's not actively guarded against Tommy. In Canada we are always cognizant of now allowing the pendulum to swing too far to the right.

In fact, the rightists themselves actively ensure that some moderation is preserved when they propose their extremist ideals. They will always eventually step out of bounds with their efforts to eliminate universal health care, as opposed to nurturing the need.

Then the federal Liberals are awarded another cakewalk election. And so on and off and on it goes.

The Canadian system of capitalism works Tommy, as well or better than any other. Save perhaps China's newly founded inovations to the political systems of the world.
 

This is a direct result of conservative policies.
Refusing to invest in renewables and leaving us dependent on world energy markets.
Lo wages have also lead to people not having any savings.
Nothing in conservative Britain works. Nothing.

What do you think will be the result, when governments push policies that suppress the production of energy from abundant, affordable sources, and try to replace them with more costly, less abundant, less reliable sources?

It's not conservatives that are doing this. Not in the UK, not in the U.S., not anywhere.
 
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Political scapegoating doesn't solve problems. Doing the right thing does. Sadly, our minds are so papered over with nonsense that we are unable to deal with our problems, or recognize opportunities. Worse yet our unsolved problems have been capitalized and turned into industries, thus we view problems as a valuable resource not to be wasted. We consider efficiency to be solving one problem by creating another, trading a headache for an upset stomach. :(
 
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What do you think will be the result, when governments push policies that suppress the production of energy from abundant, affordable sources, and try to replace them with more costly, less abundant, less reliable sources?

It's not conservative that re doing this. Not in the UK, not in the U.S., not anywhere.
You don't appreciate the need to eliminate the causes of climate change. That's well established with you.
I'm not wrong in saying that Bob.

And that prevents you from understanding that liberal policy is the only choice now.

And I could be wrong about that, in fairness, but it's for you to convince others of your beliefs.
 

This is a direct result of conservative policies.
Refusing to invest in renewables and leaving us dependent on world energy markets.
Lo wages have also lead to people not having any savings.
Nothing in conservative Britain works. Nothing.


Actually, you have things half ass backwards.

The UK has invested boatloads of money in renewables and is the 3rd most tremendous market worldwide for it. They are freezing this winter on the European continent this years as well.

This is because Europe failed to listen to President Trump's sales pitch a few years ago for American natural gas, deciding to stay with the Russians.

 
Political scapegoating doesn't solve problems. Doing the right thing does. Sadly, our minds are so papered over with nonsense that we are unable to deal with our problems, or recognize opportunities. Worse yet our unsolved problems have been capitalized and turned into industries, thus we view problems as a valuable resource not to be wasted. We consider efficiency to be solving one problem by creating another, trading a headache for an upset stomach. :(
No. This is a tory crisis. The current crew are busy outlawing solar ffs..
 
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Actually, you have things half ass backwards.

The UK has invested boatloads of money in renewables and is the 3rd most tremendous market worldwide for it. They are freezing this winter on the European continent this years as well.

This is because Europe failed to listen to President Trump's sales pitch a few years ago for American natural gas, deciding to stay with the Russians.

This predates trump.We failed to invest in renewables for years.
 
What do you think will be the result, when governments push policies that suppress the production of energy from abundant, affordable sources, and try to replace them with more costly, less abundant, less reliable sources?

It's not conservative that are doing this. Not in the UK, not in the U.S., not anywhere.
You are such a one dimensional half wit.
 

This is a direct result of conservative policies.
Refusing to invest in renewables and leaving us dependent on world energy markets.
Lo wages have also lead to people not having any savings.
Nothing in conservative Britain works. Nothing.
The Guardian is a globalist rag. You are a globalist shitstain. The Conservatives in the UK caved just like they do here across the pond. Your shithole country asked for this.
 
It's truly a scourge that reaches the rest of the world's countries if it's not actively guarded against Tommy. In Canada we are always cognizant of now allowing the pendulum to swing too far to the right.

In fact, the rightists themselves actively ensure that some moderation is preserved when they propose their extremist ideals. They will always eventually step out of bounds with their efforts to eliminate universal health care, as opposed to nurturing the need.

Then the federal Liberals are awarded another cakewalk election. And so on and off and on it goes.

The Canadian system of capitalism works Tommy, as well or better than any other. Save perhaps China's newly founded inovations to the political systems of the world.
When the whole of the establishment supports conservatism they have an inbuilt advantage, They have managed to persuade people to vote against their better interests. Now they are going to die.
 
You don't appreciate the need to eliminate the causes of climate change. That's well established with you.
I'm not wrong in saying that Bob.

And that prevents you from understanding that liberal policy is the only choice now.

And I could be wrong about that, in fairness, but it's for you to convince others of your beliefs.

Regardless of what arguments can be made in favor of such policies, the fact remains, indisputable, that it is LIbEral policies that are causing energy shortages and increases in energy costs, with conservatives generally being opposed to these policies, and warning what the consequences will be of them; yet we see Tainted Tommy trying to blame conservatives for the result of these LIbEral policies.

If you're truly stupid enough to believe in the Climate Change hoax, and stupid enough to believe that these policies are necessary and justifiable to mitigate it, then at least be honest enough to admit that the energy cost and supply issues are a cost of implementing these policies, and stop trying to blame them on those of us who are smart enough to oppose these polices.

But the, asking a LIbEral to be honest is like asking a house fly not to be a shit-eating insect.
 
Maybe it's just a useful word with no applicable meaning, inserted for the sole purpose of promoting the illusion of difference?
The word "Conservative" should be capitalized in Tommy's rant.

The legal name of the ruling party in the UK is the Conservative Party, which is about as much "conservative" as the People's Republic of Red China has anything to do with the People who they despise.


The so-called Conservative Party has ruled Britain for a long time, but still hasn't done anything about abortion, socialized medicine or gay marriage in the realm, which are all established atrocities there..
 
has nothing to do with conservative v liberal. the same problem is happening in America and the US president is not conservative


While the current president is not conservative you can not dispute the facts that many conservative polices have eaten away at the middle class for decades. Ronald Reagan was just the beginning, and to this very day, policies he enacted have an enormous effect on the working class.

I have a front row seat, and what I see is quite telling. First, I live in a very rural community, one of the most conservative congressional districts in the country. These are good, God fearing people, they are just disillusioned and mislead. They are suffering, from inflation, and at this point are in survival mode. But their mailboxes are inundated every day with bullshit glossy ass mailers concerning Ted Bud and Beasly. Yeah, Biden is causing this inflation, Biden is causing the increase in gas prices. And they believe it. No bearing whatsoever on reality, and no clue as to what will happen if Republicans take back the Senate and the House.

But I drive an hour to work, run a business, in a very affluent suburb of Charlotte NC where at least half the population has a net worth in excess of a million dollars. They ain't hurting. They ain't even sweating it. You think they vote Republican? Not hardly. Mostly young professionals, and yes, young professionals with a net worth over a million dollars.

I mean the contrast is stark. So here, where I live, you got Johnny sixpack working at the Target distribution center. I mean hey, he is knocking down over 20 bucks an hour and getting overtime each week. But that car payment on that Dodge Charger ain't cheap, neither is his house payment. He is paycheck to paycheck and still plants a Trump flag in his yard. Then there is where I work. Engineers and nurses, like my son and his wife. Both knocking out six figures and dumping almost 50 grand into their 401k's every year. Not to mention their health savings account and their Roth IRA's. Got a quarter million dollars of equity in their home and both under 30. They will hit that million dollar networth mark at 30. Think they vote Republican? Not hardly.

Here is the takeaway. The fool working at Target, he actually believes Republicans are on his side. First thing they do when they attain power, eliminate the minimum 15% tax on corporate income. Seriously, that going to help Johnny? Next on the agenda, a complete rollback of environmental restrictions. Did I forget to mention that Johnny lives in a trailer next to an industrial waste pond. Think that helps him out? Then it is investigation after investigation, which does nothing for Johnny and everything to help those scam artist stay in power. Not to mention a bunch of lawyers make a bunch of money, part of which they contribute to Republicans. We getting hosed people, big time, and quite honestly, it is the Republicans that are doing the hosing. Those young professionals, they are smart enough to realize it. Preying on the poor and the uninformed is not admirable. Shame on the Republican party. Time they got the reckoning they deserve.
 

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