Colin norris
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Let's go back a bit and get some facts straight. Leave the emotion and partisanship to one side.
The original reasonsgiven to go there was to support democracy and stop terrorist threats. Both worthy cause. It failed.
In 2014 NATO pulled out because they also saw the stupidity of it but not america. They intended to bully the Taliban. That failed.
Consequently the Taliban gained ground, as expected. Another failure to stop them.
Under trump in 2020 the withdrawal was discussed with Afghanis etc.
Why would the result be any different between then and now?
Trump discontinued that and chose to keep bullying the Taliban. That failed.
Now you are all bellowing about how joe wanting the troops home after 20 years of nothing, as if his decision has caused a defeat. Grow up.
89 billion was spent on training the Afghan army and they never fired a shot. They scampered into the Taliban camps and hid in the hills etc. That's appears to keep with the trend of another failure.
There is No doubt America misunderstood the mindset of Afghanistan people. They will never conede to any international bully. They cleverly tricked us into training and encouraged us to so tenderly gift them weapons with which to fight again.
That worked well.
Only a fool would attempt to justify remaining there. the recovery of troops and civilians is underway contrary to what all you Biden haters are saying. You are liars.
On npr.com is conversations with people who were there and overwhelmingly support the pull out.
In fact, only 37% favoured going there in the first place. 80% approved of Obama pulling out in 2014. That failed also.
For what it's worth 52% strongly approved.
They're disappointed also.
You can rant and throw shit on Biden all you like. He's he only one with the courage to pull out but you rabid republicans call him weak and it was a disaster. Rubbish.
Like Liz Cheney calling trump the idiot he was, the country needs more people with guts. Not wimps like you idiots who only want to score political points as if will win the election.
Ask yourselves this.
What would you have done after 20 years 2 trillion wasted for nothing?
How many more troops to be killed is enough?
Is America the ruler of the world after being defeated by a rat tag mob of hill billies?
And, honestly, when our troops etc are out of there, which they will be, do you really care about those ratbags and their hideous religion? Of course you don't.
You didn't while we were killing them.
Let all that soak in. We were defeated and there's no way of hiding it.
The original reasonsgiven to go there was to support democracy and stop terrorist threats. Both worthy cause. It failed.
In 2014 NATO pulled out because they also saw the stupidity of it but not america. They intended to bully the Taliban. That failed.
Consequently the Taliban gained ground, as expected. Another failure to stop them.
Under trump in 2020 the withdrawal was discussed with Afghanis etc.
Why would the result be any different between then and now?
Trump discontinued that and chose to keep bullying the Taliban. That failed.
Now you are all bellowing about how joe wanting the troops home after 20 years of nothing, as if his decision has caused a defeat. Grow up.
89 billion was spent on training the Afghan army and they never fired a shot. They scampered into the Taliban camps and hid in the hills etc. That's appears to keep with the trend of another failure.
There is No doubt America misunderstood the mindset of Afghanistan people. They will never conede to any international bully. They cleverly tricked us into training and encouraged us to so tenderly gift them weapons with which to fight again.
That worked well.
Only a fool would attempt to justify remaining there. the recovery of troops and civilians is underway contrary to what all you Biden haters are saying. You are liars.
On npr.com is conversations with people who were there and overwhelmingly support the pull out.
In fact, only 37% favoured going there in the first place. 80% approved of Obama pulling out in 2014. That failed also.
For what it's worth 52% strongly approved.
They're disappointed also.
You can rant and throw shit on Biden all you like. He's he only one with the courage to pull out but you rabid republicans call him weak and it was a disaster. Rubbish.
Like Liz Cheney calling trump the idiot he was, the country needs more people with guts. Not wimps like you idiots who only want to score political points as if will win the election.
Ask yourselves this.
What would you have done after 20 years 2 trillion wasted for nothing?
How many more troops to be killed is enough?
Is America the ruler of the world after being defeated by a rat tag mob of hill billies?
And, honestly, when our troops etc are out of there, which they will be, do you really care about those ratbags and their hideous religion? Of course you don't.
You didn't while we were killing them.
Let all that soak in. We were defeated and there's no way of hiding it.
