Affirmative Action

[Asclepias]

Why would I tell her that? She didnt do anything to me or my ancestors. The US owes reparations not any individual. Again this is another attempt to deflect the issue. Why are you having such a hard time staying on topic?.

Who the hell is the US? You really should have continued in school past the third grade and maybe you would have learned that the US is "We the PEOPLE".

We the people is plural dummy. Its not one single individual. Since Black people pay taxes they would be paying for their own reparations as well.. You should have stayed in school past the 4th grade instead of dropping out after the 3rd.

That puts my education two years further advanced than your own doesn't it?

No but thanks for admitting you only have a 3rd grade education. I have a Masters.

Pitiful. What's the world coming to? A Masters Degree and a fry cook at Church's Fried Chicken. My My.

You already admitted to only having a 3rd grade education so dont lie now. What kind of job did you think you could get with that other than top fry cook?

 

[beagle9]

Blacks should be ashamed to rely on affirmative action. That reliance demonstrates how inferior they are. Instead, they think affirmative action is something they are entitled to.

Affirmative action reinforces the accurate perception that the Negro race is intrinsically inferior.

What only thing that reinforces the "perception" of the inferiority of an entire race of people are willfully ignorant, uneducated bigots like you who do not really understand programs like affirmative action, and are looking for a crutch to justify their personal failures and lack of value to society.

The demographic that has benefitted the most from AA are white females.

Period.

Jumping back in here, so let me ask you an honest question then, and lets see if you can give me an honest answer... Does a persons skin color signal that a person is in need or rather is a good person who can be completely trusted as based upon their skin color in life ? All I keep seeing is this word black and the word white in referring to peoples color when trying to justify many things in this nation, and that is just wrong and is big time wrong now a days I think . The same goes for this AA in example of when think about it, and so should any of these things apply to a person purely based upon their skin color in life ? You see among all peoples of any color in the world, you have the bad, and of course you have the good, so why would anyone use a persons color as any justification for anything these days, and this when they are just as guilty of being bad just like any other can be also guilty of being bad in life ? I mean other than the usage of a persons character and good heart instead, I ask why does this color thing keep going on and on these days like it does ?

What I see is that the devil (bad spirit / evil one /influential one) who is among all peoples, and for whom can hide out in these idiot programs that are based upon someones skin color or a groups skin color is a bad bad thing. It allows the devil access to areas where as he or she shouldn't be allowed access to. The same goes for the usage of gender or other such idiocy that we see going on today, because that is no indicator of who that person is or who that person can be in life. It's time to abandon these foolish things, and begin to empower and lift up people based upon their good characters, and not upon their color and gender or other such non-sense as we keep trying to keep going in America today. It's over, the devil has taken enough advantage of these things already, and it's time to leave that ole Beelzebub behind, and that means in every group that he has taken refuge in. The government has been completely foolish over the years, and the destruction we see across America is a fine example of that foolishness. The only thing that should be tolerated in society is good people of any and all colors, and good character of any and all colors. Sympathy for the devil has got to end, and that means it's time to leave him without a host in which to ride in on his high horse on, and to fool people as he is being protected by an ignorant and outdated government.

"Honest answers" are often deemed as being such when the one asking the "questions" hears what they want to hear in response, and then when the question is answered as honestly as the one being asked for answers, it is often not what those asking wish to hear.

The truth is that current AA policies are based more on gender than race, if they were solely based on race with black people as the beneficiaries, there would be anarchy in the streets.

My advice to those who actually believe that blacks are being "unfairly rewarded" by AA, and are the demographic that has resulted in the displacement of massive numbers of whites in the workforce or the college classroom, would be to take some time and read, word by word the original legislation as well as the updates to the policy since it's inception.

If one does so, and also examines the numbers as to who has benefitted the most from AA, it will become glaringly obvious that there are NOT massive numbers of black Americans benefitting from AA at the expense of white Americans.

It is much more likely that if a white male is passed up for a coveted job or promotion, it was a white female, and not a black person who was selected in place of him.

Again with the white, black, female, male speak, but does these attributes tell us who these people are really ? No they don't, so why is their programs based upon these attributes that give no indication of who the person is as a character in life ?

I mean look at all the people who can qualify for things as based upon their intellect, and sadly that doesn't even tell us who the people are as to their character. This is why this nation is fooled so badly by those whom just because they had an attribute whether it be black, white, yellow, brown, red or even a female or male, intellectual or non-intellectual, there is still no way of knowing who these individual people are as based upon these attributes in which they have in this specific regard. That is why we got people like these serial killers who are highly intellectual, but yet they are killers who got away with it. You know why they got away with? It was because this nation idolizes intellectuals who are void of character is why. How about the black person who trashes his or her opportunities given them, and all because they didn't want the opportunities to begin with, and the same goes for the white person and etc. who does the same things in life ? The only thing I will agree with is equal pay for equal work, and also equal opportunity for all who apply themselves in the best ways they know how, along with having a trainable mind, and the skills or ability to be trained also to go along with ones attitude/good character in life. If a person has a great character in life and is a good person, then I think this nation should open it's arms wide for such people, and for the ones who want to be bad, well they get what they get, and that's just that until they choose otherwise in their life. There are a million success stories in America, and when we see programs that are working based upon the intellectual, superficial or outward attributes one might have, instead of what is truly working for good on the inside, then Houston we have a serious problem going on in this nation.

Blacks should be ashamed to rely on affirmative action. That reliance demonstrates how inferior they are. Instead, they think affirmative action is something they are entitled to.

Affirmative action reinforces the accurate perception that the Negro race is intrinsically inferior.

What only thing that reinforces the "perception" of the inferiority of an entire race of people are willfully ignorant, uneducated bigots like you who do not really understand programs like affirmative action, and are looking for a crutch to justify their personal failures and lack of value to society.

The demographic that has benefitted the most from AA are white females.

Period.

Jumping back in here, so let me ask you an honest question then, and lets see if you can give me an honest answer... Does a persons skin color signal that a person is in need or rather is a good person who can be completely trusted as based upon their skin color in life ? All I keep seeing is this word black and the word white in referring to peoples color when trying to justify many things in this nation, and that is just wrong and is big time wrong now a days I think . The same goes for this AA in example of when think about it, and so should any of these things apply to a person purely based upon their skin color in life ? You see among all peoples of any color in the world, you have the bad, and of course you have the good, so why would anyone use a persons color as any justification for anything these days, and this when they are just as guilty of being bad just like any other can be also guilty of being bad in life ? I mean other than the usage of a persons character and good heart instead, I ask why does this color thing keep going on and on these days like it does ?

What I see is that the devil (bad spirit / evil one /influential one) who is among all peoples, and for whom can hide out in these idiot programs that are based upon someones skin color or a groups skin color is a bad bad thing. It allows the devil access to areas where as he or she shouldn't be allowed access to. The same goes for the usage of gender or other such idiocy that we see going on today, because that is no indicator of who that person is or who that person can be in life. It's time to abandon these foolish things, and begin to empower and lift up people based upon their good characters, and not upon their color and gender or other such non-sense as we keep trying to keep going in America today. It's over, the devil has taken enough advantage of these things already, and it's time to leave that ole Beelzebub behind, and that means in every group that he has taken refuge in. The government has been completely foolish over the years, and the destruction we see across America is a fine example of that foolishness. The only thing that should be tolerated in society is good people of any and all colors, and good character of any and all colors. Sympathy for the devil has got to end, and that means it's time to leave him without a host in which to ride in on his high horse on, and to fool people as he is being protected by an ignorant and outdated government.

"Honest answers" are often deemed as being such when the one asking the "questions" hears what they want to hear in response, and then when the question is answered as honestly as the one being asked for answers, it is often not what those asking wish to hear.

The truth is that current AA policies are based more on gender than race, if they were solely based on race with black people as the beneficiaries, there would be anarchy in the streets.

My advice to those who actually believe that blacks are being "unfairly rewarded" by AA, and are the demographic that has resulted in the displacement of massive numbers of whites in the workforce or the college classroom, would be to take some time and read, word by word the original legislation as well as the updates to the policy since it's inception.

If one does so, and also examines the numbers as to who has benefitted the most from AA, it will become glaringly obvious that there are NOT massive numbers of black Americans benefitting from AA at the expense of white Americans.

It is much more likely that if a white male is passed up for a coveted job or promotion, it was a white female, and not a black person who was selected in place of him.

Again with the white, black, female, male speak, but does these attributes tell us who these people are really ? No they don't, so why is their programs based upon these attributes that give no indication of who the person is as a character in life ?

I mean look at all the people who can qualify for things as based upon their intellect, and sadly that doesn't even tell us who the people are as to their character. This is why this nation is fooled so badly by those whom just because they had an attribute whether it be black, white, yellow, brown, red or even a female or male, intellectual or non-intellectual, there is still no way of knowing who these individual people are as based upon these attributes in which they have in this specific regard. That is why we got people like these serial killers who are highly intellectual, but yet they are killers who got away with it. You know why they got away with? It was because this nation idolizes intellectuals who are void of character is why. How about the black person who trashes his or her opportunities given them, and all because they didn't want the opportunities to begin with, and the same goes for the white person and etc. who does the same things in life ? The only thing I will agree with is equal pay for equal work, and also equal opportunity for all who apply themselves in the best ways they know how, along with having a trainable mind, and the skills or ability to be trained also to go along with ones attitude/good character in life. If a person has a great character in life and is a good person, then I think this nation should open it's arms wide for such people, and for the ones who want to be bad, well they get what they get, and that's just that until they choose otherwise in their life. There are a million success stories in America, and when we see programs that are working based upon the intellectual, superficial or outward attributes one might have, instead of what is truly working for good on the inside, then Houston we have a serious problem going on in this nation.

In a Utopian society your blueprint for opportunity leading to success would work very well, but the United States has never been a "functioning" model for that kind of society and never will be.

The very purpose of this thread initially was one of ill intent, by using the program of Affirmative Action as a platform in a maliciously ignorant and misinformed attempt to illustrate the inferiority of an entire race of people, when the fact is that those who were the intended target ARE NOT the most rewarded beneficiaries of the same program. That has been my point all along.

No one actually knows the true character of anyone including their own character until they are faced with a situation that provides an actual test of character. Case in point, the well meaning people who trusted Bernie Madeoff with their life savings undoubtedly believed that he was trustworthy until it became obvious that he had bilked people out of millions of dollars, the same with those who invested with Charles Keating. Examples of people who may have started out with good intentions of helping others but failed the character test when an opportunity for easy money presented itself.

People also believed in Hitler until he and his cronies began to emerge as executioners who believed that "cleansing" their society of Jews would create their own "Utopia".
When the Europeans landed on Plymouth Rock, the Natives believed that they were their friends as well, and look what eventually happened to them.

The world is full of history on every continent where corruption has ruled over the spirit of decency, then the corruption is wiped out, the reset button is pushed and then the same process restarts , and is repeated over and over, thus the saying, "history repeats itself".

The fact is that people will always sink to their lowest level if they are not held in check by certain guidelines and policies. All one has to do to realize that is to read some of outrageous postings of some of the nutjobs who visit this anonymous forum like the one who started this very thread.

A society where people are truly judged and enjoy sucess based on their character alone would absolutely be the best of all worlds, but we live in a society where character is a benchmark,but reality often dictates that success at the expense of any and all is the norm.

Funny the examples you give are all white when speaking of characters who were bad, so are you biased or racist in your analogies or do you give equal time to all who have bad character in society, just as we all know it to be ? Yes the test of character is not being used as it should be used, and why is this you suppose ? It's because groups have those who are among their group that are of bad character, but they have to pull them along in order to keep the numbers up in the group. Low numbers means low results in their minds, so bringing along the bad with the good is something they are willing to risk. It has hurt groups badly over time this ideology or strategy, but then somehow these groups are able to enlist the feds to be on their side as representing the group as a whole based upon their appearance or gender and not as it should be of their character, and so they do this in order to pull everyone in the group through based upon the bigger numbers. However, this is when the abuse of others by those who are bad within the group begins to happen, because they have been empowered from within the group (riding the wave), even when they should not have been empowered that way. It is an unacceptable result we all have faced over time, and it is what everyone is trying to resolve in this nation I think, but first it has to be understood fully upon how this is going on in this nation, and then ones character should be tested and rewarded afterwards, while not rewarding the bad guy's in the process.

 

[katsteve2012]

What only thing that reinforces the "perception" of the inferiority of an entire race of people are willfully ignorant, uneducated bigots like you who do not really understand programs like affirmative action, and are looking for a crutch to justify their personal failures and lack of value to society.

The demographic that has benefitted the most from AA are white females.

Period.

Jumping back in here, so let me ask you an honest question then, and lets see if you can give me an honest answer... Does a persons skin color signal that a person is in need or rather is a good person who can be completely trusted as based upon their skin color in life ? All I keep seeing is this word black and the word white in referring to peoples color when trying to justify many things in this nation, and that is just wrong and is big time wrong now a days I think . The same goes for this AA in example of when think about it, and so should any of these things apply to a person purely based upon their skin color in life ? You see among all peoples of any color in the world, you have the bad, and of course you have the good, so why would anyone use a persons color as any justification for anything these days, and this when they are just as guilty of being bad just like any other can be also guilty of being bad in life ? I mean other than the usage of a persons character and good heart instead, I ask why does this color thing keep going on and on these days like it does ?

What I see is that the devil (bad spirit / evil one /influential one) who is among all peoples, and for whom can hide out in these idiot programs that are based upon someones skin color or a groups skin color is a bad bad thing. It allows the devil access to areas where as he or she shouldn't be allowed access to. The same goes for the usage of gender or other such idiocy that we see going on today, because that is no indicator of who that person is or who that person can be in life. It's time to abandon these foolish things, and begin to empower and lift up people based upon their good characters, and not upon their color and gender or other such non-sense as we keep trying to keep going in America today. It's over, the devil has taken enough advantage of these things already, and it's time to leave that ole Beelzebub behind, and that means in every group that he has taken refuge in. The government has been completely foolish over the years, and the destruction we see across America is a fine example of that foolishness. The only thing that should be tolerated in society is good people of any and all colors, and good character of any and all colors. Sympathy for the devil has got to end, and that means it's time to leave him without a host in which to ride in on his high horse on, and to fool people as he is being protected by an ignorant and outdated government.

"Honest answers" are often deemed as being such when the one asking the "questions" hears what they want to hear in response, and then when the question is answered as honestly as the one being asked for answers, it is often not what those asking wish to hear.

The truth is that current AA policies are based more on gender than race, if they were solely based on race with black people as the beneficiaries, there would be anarchy in the streets.

My advice to those who actually believe that blacks are being "unfairly rewarded" by AA, and are the demographic that has resulted in the displacement of massive numbers of whites in the workforce or the college classroom, would be to take some time and read, word by word the original legislation as well as the updates to the policy since it's inception.

If one does so, and also examines the numbers as to who has benefitted the most from AA, it will become glaringly obvious that there are NOT massive numbers of black Americans benefitting from AA at the expense of white Americans.

It is much more likely that if a white male is passed up for a coveted job or promotion, it was a white female, and not a black person who was selected in place of him.

Again with the white, black, female, male speak, but does these attributes tell us who these people are really ? No they don't, so why is their programs based upon these attributes that give no indication of who the person is as a character in life ?

I mean look at all the people who can qualify for things as based upon their intellect, and sadly that doesn't even tell us who the people are as to their character. This is why this nation is fooled so badly by those whom just because they had an attribute whether it be black, white, yellow, brown, red or even a female or male, intellectual or non-intellectual, there is still no way of knowing who these individual people are as based upon these attributes in which they have in this specific regard. That is why we got people like these serial killers who are highly intellectual, but yet they are killers who got away with it. You know why they got away with? It was because this nation idolizes intellectuals who are void of character is why. How about the black person who trashes his or her opportunities given them, and all because they didn't want the opportunities to begin with, and the same goes for the white person and etc. who does the same things in life ? The only thing I will agree with is equal pay for equal work, and also equal opportunity for all who apply themselves in the best ways they know how, along with having a trainable mind, and the skills or ability to be trained also to go along with ones attitude/good character in life. If a person has a great character in life and is a good person, then I think this nation should open it's arms wide for such people, and for the ones who want to be bad, well they get what they get, and that's just that until they choose otherwise in their life. There are a million success stories in America, and when we see programs that are working based upon the intellectual, superficial or outward attributes one might have, instead of what is truly working for good on the inside, then Houston we have a serious problem going on in this nation.

What only thing that reinforces the "perception" of the inferiority of an entire race of people are willfully ignorant, uneducated bigots like you who do not really understand programs like affirmative action, and are looking for a crutch to justify their personal failures and lack of value to society.

The demographic that has benefitted the most from AA are white females.

Period.

Jumping back in here, so let me ask you an honest question then, and lets see if you can give me an honest answer... Does a persons skin color signal that a person is in need or rather is a good person who can be completely trusted as based upon their skin color in life ? All I keep seeing is this word black and the word white in referring to peoples color when trying to justify many things in this nation, and that is just wrong and is big time wrong now a days I think . The same goes for this AA in example of when think about it, and so should any of these things apply to a person purely based upon their skin color in life ? You see among all peoples of any color in the world, you have the bad, and of course you have the good, so why would anyone use a persons color as any justification for anything these days, and this when they are just as guilty of being bad just like any other can be also guilty of being bad in life ? I mean other than the usage of a persons character and good heart instead, I ask why does this color thing keep going on and on these days like it does ?

What I see is that the devil (bad spirit / evil one /influential one) who is among all peoples, and for whom can hide out in these idiot programs that are based upon someones skin color or a groups skin color is a bad bad thing. It allows the devil access to areas where as he or she shouldn't be allowed access to. The same goes for the usage of gender or other such idiocy that we see going on today, because that is no indicator of who that person is or who that person can be in life. It's time to abandon these foolish things, and begin to empower and lift up people based upon their good characters, and not upon their color and gender or other such non-sense as we keep trying to keep going in America today. It's over, the devil has taken enough advantage of these things already, and it's time to leave that ole Beelzebub behind, and that means in every group that he has taken refuge in. The government has been completely foolish over the years, and the destruction we see across America is a fine example of that foolishness. The only thing that should be tolerated in society is good people of any and all colors, and good character of any and all colors. Sympathy for the devil has got to end, and that means it's time to leave him without a host in which to ride in on his high horse on, and to fool people as he is being protected by an ignorant and outdated government.

"Honest answers" are often deemed as being such when the one asking the "questions" hears what they want to hear in response, and then when the question is answered as honestly as the one being asked for answers, it is often not what those asking wish to hear.

The truth is that current AA policies are based more on gender than race, if they were solely based on race with black people as the beneficiaries, there would be anarchy in the streets.

My advice to those who actually believe that blacks are being "unfairly rewarded" by AA, and are the demographic that has resulted in the displacement of massive numbers of whites in the workforce or the college classroom, would be to take some time and read, word by word the original legislation as well as the updates to the policy since it's inception.

If one does so, and also examines the numbers as to who has benefitted the most from AA, it will become glaringly obvious that there are NOT massive numbers of black Americans benefitting from AA at the expense of white Americans.

It is much more likely that if a white male is passed up for a coveted job or promotion, it was a white female, and not a black person who was selected in place of him.

Again with the white, black, female, male speak, but does these attributes tell us who these people are really ? No they don't, so why is their programs based upon these attributes that give no indication of who the person is as a character in life ?

I mean look at all the people who can qualify for things as based upon their intellect, and sadly that doesn't even tell us who the people are as to their character. This is why this nation is fooled so badly by those whom just because they had an attribute whether it be black, white, yellow, brown, red or even a female or male, intellectual or non-intellectual, there is still no way of knowing who these individual people are as based upon these attributes in which they have in this specific regard. That is why we got people like these serial killers who are highly intellectual, but yet they are killers who got away with it. You know why they got away with? It was because this nation idolizes intellectuals who are void of character is why. How about the black person who trashes his or her opportunities given them, and all because they didn't want the opportunities to begin with, and the same goes for the white person and etc. who does the same things in life ? The only thing I will agree with is equal pay for equal work, and also equal opportunity for all who apply themselves in the best ways they know how, along with having a trainable mind, and the skills or ability to be trained also to go along with ones attitude/good character in life. If a person has a great character in life and is a good person, then I think this nation should open it's arms wide for such people, and for the ones who want to be bad, well they get what they get, and that's just that until they choose otherwise in their life. There are a million success stories in America, and when we see programs that are working based upon the intellectual, superficial or outward attributes one might have, instead of what is truly working for good on the inside, then Houston we have a serious problem going on in this nation.

In a Utopian society your blueprint for opportunity leading to success would work very well, but the United States has never been a "functioning" model for that kind of society and never will be.

The very purpose of this thread initially was one of ill intent, by using the program of Affirmative Action as a platform in a maliciously ignorant and misinformed attempt to illustrate the inferiority of an entire race of people, when the fact is that those who were the intended target ARE NOT the most rewarded beneficiaries of the same program. That has been my point all along.

No one actually knows the true character of anyone including their own character until they are faced with a situation that provides an actual test of character. Case in point, the well meaning people who trusted Bernie Madeoff with their life savings undoubtedly believed that he was trustworthy until it became obvious that he had bilked people out of millions of dollars, the same with those who invested with Charles Keating. Examples of people who may have started out with good intentions of helping others but failed the character test when an opportunity for easy money presented itself.

People also believed in Hitler until he and his cronies began to emerge as executioners who believed that "cleansing" their society of Jews would create their own "Utopia".
When the Europeans landed on Plymouth Rock, the Natives believed that they were their friends as well, and look what eventually happened to them.

The world is full of history on every continent where corruption has ruled over the spirit of decency, then the corruption is wiped out, the reset button is pushed and then the same process restarts , and is repeated over and over, thus the saying, "history repeats itself".

The fact is that people will always sink to their lowest level if they are not held in check by certain guidelines and policies. All one has to do to realize that is to read some of outrageous postings of some of the nutjobs who visit this anonymous forum like the one who started this very thread.

A society where people are truly judged and enjoy sucess based on their character alone would absolutely be the best of all worlds, but we live in a society where character is a benchmark,but reality often dictates that success at the expense of any and all is the norm.

Funny the examples you give are all white when speaking of characters who were bad, so are you biased or racist in your analogies or do you give equal time to all who have bad character in society, just as we all know it to be ? Yes the test of character is not being used as it should be used, and why is this you suppose ? It's because groups have those who are among their group that are of bad character, but they have to pull them along in order to keep the numbers up in the group. Low numbers means low results in their minds, so bringing along the bad with the good is something they are willing to risk. It has hurt groups badly over time this ideology or strategy, but then somehow these groups are able to enlist the feds to be on their side as representing the group as a whole based upon their appearance or gender and not as it should be of their character, and so they do this in order to pull everyone in the group through based upon the bigger numbers. However, this is when the abuse of others by those who are bad within the group begins to happen, because they have been empowered from within the group (riding the wave), even when they should not have been empowered that way. It is an unacceptable result we all have faced over time, and it is what everyone is trying to resolve in this nation I think, but first it has to be understood fully upon how this is going on in this nation, and then ones character should be tested and rewarded afterwards, while not rewarding the bad guy's in the process.

What only thing that reinforces the "perception" of the inferiority of an entire race of people are willfully ignorant, uneducated bigots like you who do not really understand programs like affirmative action, and are looking for a crutch to justify their personal failures and lack of value to society.

The demographic that has benefitted the most from AA are white females.

Period.

Jumping back in here, so let me ask you an honest question then, and lets see if you can give me an honest answer... Does a persons skin color signal that a person is in need or rather is a good person who can be completely trusted as based upon their skin color in life ? All I keep seeing is this word black and the word white in referring to peoples color when trying to justify many things in this nation, and that is just wrong and is big time wrong now a days I think . The same goes for this AA in example of when think about it, and so should any of these things apply to a person purely based upon their skin color in life ? You see among all peoples of any color in the world, you have the bad, and of course you have the good, so why would anyone use a persons color as any justification for anything these days, and this when they are just as guilty of being bad just like any other can be also guilty of being bad in life ? I mean other than the usage of a persons character and good heart instead, I ask why does this color thing keep going on and on these days like it does ?

What I see is that the devil (bad spirit / evil one /influential one) who is among all peoples, and for whom can hide out in these idiot programs that are based upon someones skin color or a groups skin color is a bad bad thing. It allows the devil access to areas where as he or she shouldn't be allowed access to. The same goes for the usage of gender or other such idiocy that we see going on today, because that is no indicator of who that person is or who that person can be in life. It's time to abandon these foolish things, and begin to empower and lift up people based upon their good characters, and not upon their color and gender or other such non-sense as we keep trying to keep going in America today. It's over, the devil has taken enough advantage of these things already, and it's time to leave that ole Beelzebub behind, and that means in every group that he has taken refuge in. The government has been completely foolish over the years, and the destruction we see across America is a fine example of that foolishness. The only thing that should be tolerated in society is good people of any and all colors, and good character of any and all colors. Sympathy for the devil has got to end, and that means it's time to leave him without a host in which to ride in on his high horse on, and to fool people as he is being protected by an ignorant and outdated government.

"Honest answers" are often deemed as being such when the one asking the "questions" hears what they want to hear in response, and then when the question is answered as honestly as the one being asked for answers, it is often not what those asking wish to hear.

The truth is that current AA policies are based more on gender than race, if they were solely based on race with black people as the beneficiaries, there would be anarchy in the streets.

My advice to those who actually believe that blacks are being "unfairly rewarded" by AA, and are the demographic that has resulted in the displacement of massive numbers of whites in the workforce or the college classroom, would be to take some time and read, word by word the original legislation as well as the updates to the policy since it's inception.

If one does so, and also examines the numbers as to who has benefitted the most from AA, it will become glaringly obvious that there are NOT massive numbers of black Americans benefitting from AA at the expense of white Americans.

It is much more likely that if a white male is passed up for a coveted job or promotion, it was a white female, and not a black person who was selected in place of him.

Again with the white, black, female, male speak, but does these attributes tell us who these people are really ? No they don't, so why is their programs based upon these attributes that give no indication of who the person is as a character in life ?

I mean look at all the people who can qualify for things as based upon their intellect, and sadly that doesn't even tell us who the people are as to their character. This is why this nation is fooled so badly by those whom just because they had an attribute whether it be black, white, yellow, brown, red or even a female or male, intellectual or non-intellectual, there is still no way of knowing who these individual people are as based upon these attributes in which they have in this specific regard. That is why we got people like these serial killers who are highly intellectual, but yet they are killers who got away with it. You know why they got away with? It was because this nation idolizes intellectuals who are void of character is why. How about the black person who trashes his or her opportunities given them, and all because they didn't want the opportunities to begin with, and the same goes for the white person and etc. who does the same things in life ? The only thing I will agree with is equal pay for equal work, and also equal opportunity for all who apply themselves in the best ways they know how, along with having a trainable mind, and the skills or ability to be trained also to go along with ones attitude/good character in life. If a person has a great character in life and is a good person, then I think this nation should open it's arms wide for such people, and for the ones who want to be bad, well they get what they get, and that's just that until they choose otherwise in their life. There are a million success stories in America, and when we see programs that are working based upon the intellectual, superficial or outward attributes one might have, instead of what is truly working for good on the inside, then Houston we have a serious problem going on in this nation.

What only thing that reinforces the "perception" of the inferiority of an entire race of people are willfully ignorant, uneducated bigots like you who do not really understand programs like affirmative action, and are looking for a crutch to justify their personal failures and lack of value to society.

The demographic that has benefitted the most from AA are white females.

Period.

Jumping back in here, so let me ask you an honest question then, and lets see if you can give me an honest answer... Does a persons skin color signal that a person is in need or rather is a good person who can be completely trusted as based upon their skin color in life ? All I keep seeing is this word black and the word white in referring to peoples color when trying to justify many things in this nation, and that is just wrong and is big time wrong now a days I think . The same goes for this AA in example of when think about it, and so should any of these things apply to a person purely based upon their skin color in life ? You see among all peoples of any color in the world, you have the bad, and of course you have the good, so why would anyone use a persons color as any justification for anything these days, and this when they are just as guilty of being bad just like any other can be also guilty of being bad in life ? I mean other than the usage of a persons character and good heart instead, I ask why does this color thing keep going on and on these days like it does ?

What I see is that the devil (bad spirit / evil one /influential one) who is among all peoples, and for whom can hide out in these idiot programs that are based upon someones skin color or a groups skin color is a bad bad thing. It allows the devil access to areas where as he or she shouldn't be allowed access to. The same goes for the usage of gender or other such idiocy that we see going on today, because that is no indicator of who that person is or who that person can be in life. It's time to abandon these foolish things, and begin to empower and lift up people based upon their good characters, and not upon their color and gender or other such non-sense as we keep trying to keep going in America today. It's over, the devil has taken enough advantage of these things already, and it's time to leave that ole Beelzebub behind, and that means in every group that he has taken refuge in. The government has been completely foolish over the years, and the destruction we see across America is a fine example of that foolishness. The only thing that should be tolerated in society is good people of any and all colors, and good character of any and all colors. Sympathy for the devil has got to end, and that means it's time to leave him without a host in which to ride in on his high horse on, and to fool people as he is being protected by an ignorant and outdated government.

"Honest answers" are often deemed as being such when the one asking the "questions" hears what they want to hear in response, and then when the question is answered as honestly as the one being asked for answers, it is often not what those asking wish to hear.

The truth is that current AA policies are based more on gender than race, if they were solely based on race with black people as the beneficiaries, there would be anarchy in the streets.

My advice to those who actually believe that blacks are being "unfairly rewarded" by AA, and are the demographic that has resulted in the displacement of massive numbers of whites in the workforce or the college classroom, would be to take some time and read, word by word the original legislation as well as the updates to the policy since it's inception.

If one does so, and also examines the numbers as to who has benefitted the most from AA, it will become glaringly obvious that there are NOT massive numbers of black Americans benefitting from AA at the expense of white Americans.

It is much more likely that if a white male is passed up for a coveted job or promotion, it was a white female, and not a black person who was selected in place of him.

Again with the white, black, female, male speak, but does these attributes tell us who these people are really ? No they don't, so why is their programs based upon these attributes that give no indication of who the person is as a character in life ?

I mean look at all the people who can qualify for things as based upon their intellect, and sadly that doesn't even tell us who the people are as to their character. This is why this nation is fooled so badly by those whom just because they had an attribute whether it be black, white, yellow, brown, red or even a female or male, intellectual or non-intellectual, there is still no way of knowing who these individual people are as based upon these attributes in which they have in this specific regard. That is why we got people like these serial killers who are highly intellectual, but yet they are killers who got away with it. You know why they got away with? It was because this nation idolizes intellectuals who are void of character is why. How about the black person who trashes his or her opportunities given them, and all because they didn't want the opportunities to begin with, and the same goes for the white person and etc. who does the same things in life ? The only thing I will agree with is equal pay for equal work, and also equal opportunity for all who apply themselves in the best ways they know how, along with having a trainable mind, and the skills or ability to be trained also to go along with ones attitude/good character in life. If a person has a great character in life and is a good person, then I think this nation should open it's arms wide for such people, and for the ones who want to be bad, well they get what they get, and that's just that until they choose otherwise in their life. There are a million success stories in America, and when we see programs that are working based upon the intellectual, superficial or outward attributes one might have, instead of what is truly working for good on the inside, then Houston we have a serious problem going on in this nation.

In a Utopian society your blueprint for opportunity leading to success would work very well, but the United States has never been a "functioning" model for that kind of society and never will be.

The very purpose of this thread initially was one of ill intent, by using the program of Affirmative Action as a platform in a maliciously ignorant and misinformed attempt to illustrate the inferiority of an entire race of people, when the fact is that those who were the intended target ARE NOT the most rewarded beneficiaries of the same program. That has been my point all along.

No one actually knows the true character of anyone including their own character until they are faced with a situation that provides an actual test of character. Case in point, the well meaning people who trusted Bernie Madeoff with their life savings undoubtedly believed that he was trustworthy until it became obvious that he had bilked people out of millions of dollars, the same with those who invested with Charles Keating. Examples of people who may have started out with good intentions of helping others but failed the character test when an opportunity for easy money presented itself.

People also believed in Hitler until he and his cronies began to emerge as executioners who believed that "cleansing" their society of Jews would create their own "Utopia".
When the Europeans landed on Plymouth Rock, the Natives believed that they were their friends as well, and look what eventually happened to them.

The world is full of history on every continent where corruption has ruled over the spirit of decency, then the corruption is wiped out, the reset button is pushed and then the same process restarts , and is repeated over and over, thus the saying, "history repeats itself".

The fact is that people will always sink to their lowest level if they are not held in check by certain guidelines and policies. All one has to do to realize that is to read some of outrageous postings of some of the nutjobs who visit this anonymous forum like the one who started this very thread.

A society where people are truly judged and enjoy sucess based on their character alone would absolutely be the best of all worlds, but we live in a society where character is a benchmark,but reality often dictates that success at the expense of any and all is the norm.

Funny the examples you give are all white when speaking of characters who were bad, so are you biased or racist in your analogies or do you give equal time to all who have bad character in society, just as we all know it to be ? Yes the test of character is not being used as it should be used, and why is this you suppose ? It's because groups have those who are among their group that are of bad character, but they have to pull them along in order to keep the numbers up in the group. Low numbers means low results in their minds, so bringing along the bad with the good is something they are willing to risk. It has hurt groups badly over time this ideology or strategy, but then somehow these groups are able to enlist the feds to be on their side as representing the group as a whole based upon their appearance or gender and not as it should be of their character, and so they do this in order to pull everyone in the group through based upon the bigger numbers. However, this is when the abuse of others by those who are bad within the group begins to happen, because they have been empowered from within the group (riding the wave), even when they should not have been empowered that way. It is an unacceptable result we all have faced over time, and it is what everyone is trying to resolve in this nation I think, but first it has to be understood fully upon how this is going on in this nation, and then ones character should be tested and rewarded afterwards, while not rewarding the bad guy's in the process.

The only reason that I used those two examples who happened to be white is because I know someone personally who was bilked out of a substantial sum of money by people associated with one of those that I named. And the financial industry is one of the most obvious areas where people can fall prey to unscrupulous individuals who lack character, beginning with honesty. The average person normally does not hand over their finances to someone that they do not feel that they can trust.

I do not disagree with the "theory" of much of what you say, but the ugly truth is that it is actually in the best interest to the very small percentage of those who control the majority of the wealth that drives the country to keep those who do not, in a never ending process of infighting and finger pointing, which makes them overlook the obvious process of manipulation being used on them to collectively control their thinking and ultimately their actions.

It is human nature to overlook or forget many good deeds but remember the one bad one that stands out. Sad but true.

 

[Friends]

Affirmative action is a cancer maligning the post-secondary institutions and job market in this country.

Asian and Indian-Americans are also victimized in addition to Whites by this bullshit policy.

Blacks should be ashamed to rely on affirmative action. That reliance demonstrates how inferior they are. Instead, they think affirmative action is something they are entitled to.

Affirmative action reinforces the accurate perception that the Negro race is intrinsically inferior.

Why would Blacks be ashamed of affirmative action when whites had it for 350 years and the present day AA benefits white women more than anyone else? Sorry monkey boy but you cant shame Black people for taking advantage of the hand up your people needed and used for 350 years.

What matters is that the Negro race is on the average considerably less intelligent than the white race. The failure of No Child Left Behind makes that graphically obvious. Racial parity cannot be achieved without advancing many blacks to positions where they lack the native ability to perform adequately. This is obvious to whites who have had to work with blacks who owed their positions to affirmative action.

What matters is that your opinions don't constitute facts. The fact I am more intelligent than you are should be ample evidence that that racial parity is achievable. If you can provide a link to a law that says AA has to be given to anyone that is unqualified please produce it. If not then the only thing you are doing is scratching your furry ass and making monkey noises as usual. Now I'm going to ask you again. Why did whites need AA for 350 plus years to get where they are?

Whites got where we are because we are a superior race. You have never achieved anything because you are an inferior race. You never could have invented air planes and computers. You haven't got the brains for it.

The following chart demonstrates that from the school year of 1986 - 87 the gap in average SAT scores between blacks and whites has grown.

Fast Facts

We would be far better off without you. We do not owe you anything but one way tickets back to Africa.

 

[beagle9]

Affirmative action is a cancer maligning the post-secondary institutions and job market in this country.

Asian and Indian-Americans are also victimized in addition to Whites by this bullshit policy.

Blacks should be ashamed to rely on affirmative action. That reliance demonstrates how inferior they are. Instead, they think affirmative action is something they are entitled to.

Affirmative action reinforces the accurate perception that the Negro race is intrinsically inferior.

Why would Blacks be ashamed of affirmative action when whites had it for 350 years and the present day AA benefits white women more than anyone else? Sorry monkey boy but you cant shame Black people for taking advantage of the hand up your people needed and used for 350 years.

What matters is that the Negro race is on the average considerably less intelligent than the white race. The failure of No Child Left Behind makes that graphically obvious. Racial parity cannot be achieved without advancing many blacks to positions where they lack the native ability to perform adequately. This is obvious to whites who have had to work with blacks who owed their positions to affirmative action.

What matters is that your opinions don't constitute facts. The fact I am more intelligent than you are should be ample evidence that that racial parity is achievable. If you can provide a link to a law that says AA has to be given to anyone that is unqualified please produce it. If not then the only thing you are doing is scratching your furry ass and making monkey noises as usual. Now I'm going to ask you again. Why did whites need AA for 350 plus years to get where they are?

Whites got where we are because we are a superior race. You have never achieved anything because you are an inferior race. You never could have invented air planes and computers. You haven't got the brains for it.

The following chart demonstrates that from the school year of 1986 - 87 the gap in average SAT scores between blacks and whites has grown.

Fast Facts

We would be far better off without you. We do not owe you anything but one way tickets back to Africa.

I disagree with you based upon your premise, because skin color has nothing to do with anything, and it has no bearing on all things that are productive and good in America. Skin color is something that people use or use to make something out to be in that way, and that is a shame really because it is foolish speak when get right down to it. The only people that should want to go back to Africa, is the ones who identify with Africa more so than they do America, and that because of this identifying in this way, they would hate America due to a formed opinion in which they have created or has been influenced by another peer upon them in that way. If they hate this nation, then yes go back to where you think you are from or that you want to be from, otherwise or make the best of what you have here, just like everyone else does in America,and this regardless of their color. Don't you all think that it is enough with this color thing already, and so how about lets all get down to the character thing instead finally ?

 

[Friends]

Whites had AA for 350 years. White women are the biggest beneficiaries of the current system of AA. The little AA Blacks do get helps one more Black family climb out of the mess created by white racism. What they need to do is change it so Blacks get the same system of AA whites had for 350 years. We wont need all 350 years to excel but fair is fair.

The legacy of discrimination against blacks does not explain the fifteen points difference between average IQ's for blacks and for whites. Blacks have never been discriminated against in Canada. They have always performed poorly on intellectual matters.

 

[Asclepias]

Affirmative action is a cancer maligning the post-secondary institutions and job market in this country.

Asian and Indian-Americans are also victimized in addition to Whites by this bullshit policy.

Blacks should be ashamed to rely on affirmative action. That reliance demonstrates how inferior they are. Instead, they think affirmative action is something they are entitled to.

Affirmative action reinforces the accurate perception that the Negro race is intrinsically inferior.

Why would Blacks be ashamed of affirmative action when whites had it for 350 years and the present day AA benefits white women more than anyone else? Sorry monkey boy but you cant shame Black people for taking advantage of the hand up your people needed and used for 350 years.

What matters is that the Negro race is on the average considerably less intelligent than the white race. The failure of No Child Left Behind makes that graphically obvious. Racial parity cannot be achieved without advancing many blacks to positions where they lack the native ability to perform adequately. This is obvious to whites who have had to work with blacks who owed their positions to affirmative action.

What matters is that your opinions don't constitute facts. The fact I am more intelligent than you are should be ample evidence that that racial parity is achievable. If you can provide a link to a law that says AA has to be given to anyone that is unqualified please produce it. If not then the only thing you are doing is scratching your furry ass and making monkey noises as usual. Now I'm going to ask you again. Why did whites need AA for 350 plus years to get where they are?

Whites got where we are because we are a superior race. You have never achieved anything because you are an inferior race. You never could have invented air planes and computers. You haven't got the brains for it.

The following chart demonstrates that from the school year of 1986 - 87 the gap in average SAT scores between blacks and whites has grown.

Fast Facts

We would be far better off without you. We do not owe you anything but one way tickets back to Africa.

Whites are not superior at anything except violence, war, and mayhem. We would be far better off without you. You avoided my question Where is the link that says AA has to be given to someone that is unqualified? Your refusal to address this weakens your position monkey boy.

 

[Friends]

Blacks should be ashamed to rely on affirmative action. That reliance demonstrates how inferior they are. Instead, they think affirmative action is something they are entitled to.

Affirmative action reinforces the accurate perception that the Negro race is intrinsically inferior.

Why would Blacks be ashamed of affirmative action when whites had it for 350 years and the present day AA benefits white women more than anyone else? Sorry monkey boy but you cant shame Black people for taking advantage of the hand up your people needed and used for 350 years.

What matters is that the Negro race is on the average considerably less intelligent than the white race. The failure of No Child Left Behind makes that graphically obvious. Racial parity cannot be achieved without advancing many blacks to positions where they lack the native ability to perform adequately. This is obvious to whites who have had to work with blacks who owed their positions to affirmative action.

What matters is that your opinions don't constitute facts. The fact I am more intelligent than you are should be ample evidence that that racial parity is achievable. If you can provide a link to a law that says AA has to be given to anyone that is unqualified please produce it. If not then the only thing you are doing is scratching your furry ass and making monkey noises as usual. Now I'm going to ask you again. Why did whites need AA for 350 plus years to get where they are?

Whites got where we are because we are a superior race. You have never achieved anything because you are an inferior race. You never could have invented air planes and computers. You haven't got the brains for it.

The following chart demonstrates that from the school year of 1986 - 87 the gap in average SAT scores between blacks and whites has grown.

Fast Facts

We would be far better off without you. We do not owe you anything but one way tickets back to Africa.

Whites are not superior at anything except violence, war, and mayhem. We would be far better off without you. You avoided my question Where is the link that says AA has to be given to someone that is unqualified? Your refusal to address this weakens your position monkey boy.

I have worked with blacks who obviously owed their positions to affirmative action. They could not do their jobs.

When I complained to my boss about one of them he told me, "When I got my job as supervisor I was told that I was supposed to have at least one black person on the payroll, and that I was supposed to expect less from him."

Ever since mental aptitude testing was introduced blacks have usually gotten lower scores than whites. They usually do less well than whites in school and on the job. Anyone who has shared class rooms with blacks, or who has had to work with them knows this.

 

[Friends]

Blacks should be ashamed to rely on affirmative action. That reliance demonstrates how inferior they are. Instead, they think affirmative action is something they are entitled to.

Affirmative action reinforces the accurate perception that the Negro race is intrinsically inferior.

Why would Blacks be ashamed of affirmative action when whites had it for 350 years and the present day AA benefits white women more than anyone else? Sorry monkey boy but you cant shame Black people for taking advantage of the hand up your people needed and used for 350 years.

What matters is that the Negro race is on the average considerably less intelligent than the white race. The failure of No Child Left Behind makes that graphically obvious. Racial parity cannot be achieved without advancing many blacks to positions where they lack the native ability to perform adequately. This is obvious to whites who have had to work with blacks who owed their positions to affirmative action.

What matters is that your opinions don't constitute facts. The fact I am more intelligent than you are should be ample evidence that that racial parity is achievable. If you can provide a link to a law that says AA has to be given to anyone that is unqualified please produce it. If not then the only thing you are doing is scratching your furry ass and making monkey noises as usual. Now I'm going to ask you again. Why did whites need AA for 350 plus years to get where they are?

Whites got where we are because we are a superior race. You have never achieved anything because you are an inferior race. You never could have invented air planes and computers. You haven't got the brains for it.

The following chart demonstrates that from the school year of 1986 - 87 the gap in average SAT scores between blacks and whites has grown.

Fast Facts

We would be far better off without you. We do not owe you anything but one way tickets back to Africa.

Whites are not superior at anything except violence, war, and mayhem. We would be far better off without you. You avoided my question Where is the link that says AA has to be given to someone that is unqualified? Your refusal to address this weakens your position monkey boy.

If you were apologetic about the shortcomings of your race I would leave you alone. Your arrogance is the reason I keep beating you down.

 

[Asclepias]

Why would Blacks be ashamed of affirmative action when whites had it for 350 years and the present day AA benefits white women more than anyone else? Sorry monkey boy but you cant shame Black people for taking advantage of the hand up your people needed and used for 350 years.

What matters is that the Negro race is on the average considerably less intelligent than the white race. The failure of No Child Left Behind makes that graphically obvious. Racial parity cannot be achieved without advancing many blacks to positions where they lack the native ability to perform adequately. This is obvious to whites who have had to work with blacks who owed their positions to affirmative action.

What matters is that your opinions don't constitute facts. The fact I am more intelligent than you are should be ample evidence that that racial parity is achievable. If you can provide a link to a law that says AA has to be given to anyone that is unqualified please produce it. If not then the only thing you are doing is scratching your furry ass and making monkey noises as usual. Now I'm going to ask you again. Why did whites need AA for 350 plus years to get where they are?

Whites got where we are because we are a superior race. You have never achieved anything because you are an inferior race. You never could have invented air planes and computers. You haven't got the brains for it.

The following chart demonstrates that from the school year of 1986 - 87 the gap in average SAT scores between blacks and whites has grown.

Fast Facts

We would be far better off without you. We do not owe you anything but one way tickets back to Africa.

Whites are not superior at anything except violence, war, and mayhem. We would be far better off without you. You avoided my question Where is the link that says AA has to be given to someone that is unqualified? Your refusal to address this weakens your position monkey boy.

I have worked with blacks who obviously owed their positions to affirmative action. They could not do their jobs.

When I complained to my boss about one of them he told me, "When I got my job as supervisor I was told that I was supposed to have at least one black person on the payroll, and that I was supposed to expect less from him."

Ever since mental aptitude testing was introduced blacks have usually gotten lower scores than whites. They usually do less well than whites in school and on the job. Anyone who has shared class rooms with blacks, or who has had to work with them knows this.

You can talk all day but until you provide the link that proves there is a law that says unqualified Black people must be hired, I'm not really taking the time to read your posts. I'm going to pin you to the wall then once you admit you are just talking monkey shine I will dismantle the rest of your assertions.

 

[Asclepias]

Why would Blacks be ashamed of affirmative action when whites had it for 350 years and the present day AA benefits white women more than anyone else? Sorry monkey boy but you cant shame Black people for taking advantage of the hand up your people needed and used for 350 years.

What matters is that the Negro race is on the average considerably less intelligent than the white race. The failure of No Child Left Behind makes that graphically obvious. Racial parity cannot be achieved without advancing many blacks to positions where they lack the native ability to perform adequately. This is obvious to whites who have had to work with blacks who owed their positions to affirmative action.

What matters is that your opinions don't constitute facts. The fact I am more intelligent than you are should be ample evidence that that racial parity is achievable. If you can provide a link to a law that says AA has to be given to anyone that is unqualified please produce it. If not then the only thing you are doing is scratching your furry ass and making monkey noises as usual. Now I'm going to ask you again. Why did whites need AA for 350 plus years to get where they are?

Whites got where we are because we are a superior race. You have never achieved anything because you are an inferior race. You never could have invented air planes and computers. You haven't got the brains for it.

The following chart demonstrates that from the school year of 1986 - 87 the gap in average SAT scores between blacks and whites has grown.

Fast Facts

We would be far better off without you. We do not owe you anything but one way tickets back to Africa.

Whites are not superior at anything except violence, war, and mayhem. We would be far better off without you. You avoided my question Where is the link that says AA has to be given to someone that is unqualified? Your refusal to address this weakens your position monkey boy.

If you were apologetic about the shortcomings of your race I would leave you alone. Your arrogance is the reason I keep beating you down.

You are a amusing little monkey. I'm torturing you. Your argument is weak and has no backing except in your mind. I can afford to be arrogant because you are too dumb to provide any type of challenge. The only thing you are beating is your own meat. Provide the link. Can you do that?

 

[Friends]

What matters is that the Negro race is on the average considerably less intelligent than the white race. The failure of No Child Left Behind makes that graphically obvious. Racial parity cannot be achieved without advancing many blacks to positions where they lack the native ability to perform adequately. This is obvious to whites who have had to work with blacks who owed their positions to affirmative action.

What matters is that your opinions don't constitute facts. The fact I am more intelligent than you are should be ample evidence that that racial parity is achievable. If you can provide a link to a law that says AA has to be given to anyone that is unqualified please produce it. If not then the only thing you are doing is scratching your furry ass and making monkey noises as usual. Now I'm going to ask you again. Why did whites need AA for 350 plus years to get where they are?

Whites got where we are because we are a superior race. You have never achieved anything because you are an inferior race. You never could have invented air planes and computers. You haven't got the brains for it.

The following chart demonstrates that from the school year of 1986 - 87 the gap in average SAT scores between blacks and whites has grown.

Fast Facts

We would be far better off without you. We do not owe you anything but one way tickets back to Africa.

Whites are not superior at anything except violence, war, and mayhem. We would be far better off without you. You avoided my question Where is the link that says AA has to be given to someone that is unqualified? Your refusal to address this weakens your position monkey boy.

I have worked with blacks who obviously owed their positions to affirmative action. They could not do their jobs.

When I complained to my boss about one of them he told me, "When I got my job as supervisor I was told that I was supposed to have at least one black person on the payroll, and that I was supposed to expect less from him."

Ever since mental aptitude testing was introduced blacks have usually gotten lower scores than whites. They usually do less well than whites in school and on the job. Anyone who has shared class rooms with blacks, or who has had to work with them knows this.

You can talk all day but until you provide the link that proves there is a law that says unqualified Black people must be hired, I'm not really taking the time to read your posts. I'm going to pin you to the wall then once you admit you are just talking monkey shine I will dismantle the rest of your assertions.

Somethings are so obvious they do not require a website to document them. The average black person is much less intelligent than the average white person. As a result it is not possible to achieve racial parity without discriminating against whites and advancing blacks to positions where they are incapable of performing adequately. I have seen it happen.

What point is there trying to reason with you? You think the ancient Egyptians and the ancient Sumerians were Negroes.

 

[Friends]

What matters is that the Negro race is on the average considerably less intelligent than the white race. The failure of No Child Left Behind makes that graphically obvious. Racial parity cannot be achieved without advancing many blacks to positions where they lack the native ability to perform adequately. This is obvious to whites who have had to work with blacks who owed their positions to affirmative action.

What matters is that your opinions don't constitute facts. The fact I am more intelligent than you are should be ample evidence that that racial parity is achievable. If you can provide a link to a law that says AA has to be given to anyone that is unqualified please produce it. If not then the only thing you are doing is scratching your furry ass and making monkey noises as usual. Now I'm going to ask you again. Why did whites need AA for 350 plus years to get where they are?

Whites got where we are because we are a superior race. You have never achieved anything because you are an inferior race. You never could have invented air planes and computers. You haven't got the brains for it.

The following chart demonstrates that from the school year of 1986 - 87 the gap in average SAT scores between blacks and whites has grown.

Fast Facts

We would be far better off without you. We do not owe you anything but one way tickets back to Africa.

Whites are not superior at anything except violence, war, and mayhem. We would be far better off without you. You avoided my question Where is the link that says AA has to be given to someone that is unqualified? Your refusal to address this weakens your position monkey boy.

If you were apologetic about the shortcomings of your race I would leave you alone. Your arrogance is the reason I keep beating you down.

You are a amusing little monkey. I'm torturing you. Your argument is weak and has no backing except in your mind. I can afford to be arrogant because you are too dumb to provide any type of challenge. The only thing you are beating is your own meat. Provide the link. Can you do that?

I am torturing you, because you know that what I am saying about your race is true.

 

[Asclepias]

What matters is that your opinions don't constitute facts. The fact I am more intelligent than you are should be ample evidence that that racial parity is achievable. If you can provide a link to a law that says AA has to be given to anyone that is unqualified please produce it. If not then the only thing you are doing is scratching your furry ass and making monkey noises as usual. Now I'm going to ask you again. Why did whites need AA for 350 plus years to get where they are?

Whites got where we are because we are a superior race. You have never achieved anything because you are an inferior race. You never could have invented air planes and computers. You haven't got the brains for it.

The following chart demonstrates that from the school year of 1986 - 87 the gap in average SAT scores between blacks and whites has grown.

Fast Facts

We would be far better off without you. We do not owe you anything but one way tickets back to Africa.

Whites are not superior at anything except violence, war, and mayhem. We would be far better off without you. You avoided my question Where is the link that says AA has to be given to someone that is unqualified? Your refusal to address this weakens your position monkey boy.

If you were apologetic about the shortcomings of your race I would leave you alone. Your arrogance is the reason I keep beating you down.

You are a amusing little monkey. I'm torturing you. Your argument is weak and has no backing except in your mind. I can afford to be arrogant because you are too dumb to provide any type of challenge. The only thing you are beating is your own meat. Provide the link. Can you do that?

I am torturing you, because you know that what I am saying about your race is true.

If you call making me laugh torture I agree. Do you have the link regarding AA? Exactly cave monkey.

 

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What matters is that your opinions don't constitute facts. The fact I am more intelligent than you are should be ample evidence that that racial parity is achievable. If you can provide a link to a law that says AA has to be given to anyone that is unqualified please produce it. If not then the only thing you are doing is scratching your furry ass and making monkey noises as usual. Now I'm going to ask you again. Why did whites need AA for 350 plus years to get where they are?

Whites got where we are because we are a superior race. You have never achieved anything because you are an inferior race. You never could have invented air planes and computers. You haven't got the brains for it.

The following chart demonstrates that from the school year of 1986 - 87 the gap in average SAT scores between blacks and whites has grown.

Fast Facts

We would be far better off without you. We do not owe you anything but one way tickets back to Africa.

Whites are not superior at anything except violence, war, and mayhem. We would be far better off without you. You avoided my question Where is the link that says AA has to be given to someone that is unqualified? Your refusal to address this weakens your position monkey boy.

I have worked with blacks who obviously owed their positions to affirmative action. They could not do their jobs.

When I complained to my boss about one of them he told me, "When I got my job as supervisor I was told that I was supposed to have at least one black person on the payroll, and that I was supposed to expect less from him."

Ever since mental aptitude testing was introduced blacks have usually gotten lower scores than whites. They usually do less well than whites in school and on the job. Anyone who has shared class rooms with blacks, or who has had to work with them knows this.

You can talk all day but until you provide the link that proves there is a law that says unqualified Black people must be hired, I'm not really taking the time to read your posts. I'm going to pin you to the wall then once you admit you are just talking monkey shine I will dismantle the rest of your assertions.

Somethings are so obvious they do not require a website to document them. The average black person is much less intelligent than the average white person. As a result it is not possible to achieve racial parity without discriminating against whites and advancing blacks to positions where they are incapable of performing adequately. I have seen it happen.

What point is there trying to reason with you? You think the ancient Egyptians and the ancient Sumerians were Negroes.

The only thing that is obvious is that you are an inbred racist monkey with nothing to support your monkey shine. Thats why you are furry. Thats why you attract lice and smell like a wet dog. You are inferior in every aspect to Black people. You must have gotten a large dose of the Neanderthal genes you carry as a white person.

 

[Friends]

Recently, economists from Duke studied the effects of Prop 209, comparing undergraduate graduation rates for blacks, Hispanics and American Indians before and after the ban. In a paper being considered for publication by The Quarterly Journal of Economics, the Duke economists conclude that mismatch effects are strongest for students in so-called STEM majors - science, technology, engineering and math.

These subjects proceed in a more regimented way than the humanities, with each topic and class building on what came before. If you don't properly learn one concept, it's easier to get knocked off track.

The Duke economists say that lower-ranked schools in the University of California system are better at graduating minority students in STEM majors. For example, they conclude that had the bottom third of minority students at Berkeley who hoped to graduate with a STEM major gone to Santa Cruz instead, they would have been almost twice as likely to earn such a degree.

"Prior to California's ban on affirmative action," Peter Arcidiacono, one of the study's authors, told me, "what Berkeley did well was switch relatively ill-prepared minority students out of the sciences and into majors where credentials are relatively less important."

the vast majority of poor people are white and even they outscore most affluent blacks on every test,
Affirmative Action Page 48 US Message Board - Political Discussion Forum

 

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Sorry monkey boy. Here is some more torture for you.

Is this Britain s smartest schoolboy 11-year-old boy with higher IQ than Einstein - Mirror Online

AN 11-year-old schoolboy has joined Mensa after scoring higher than Stephen Hawking, Bill Gates and Albert Einstein in an IQ test.

 

[Asclepias]

Here's some more torture for you monkey.

African immigrants have the highest academic achievement in the US

In an analysis of Census Bureau data by the Journal of Blacks in higher education, African immigrants to the United States were found more likely to be college educated than any other immigrant group. African immigrants to the U.S. are also more highly educated than any other native-born ethnic group including white Americans. Some 48.9 percent of all African immigrants hold a college diploma. This is slightly more than the percentage of Asian immigrants to the U.S., nearly double the rate of native-born white Americans, and nearly four times the rate of native-born African Americans.

 

[Taz]

Here's some more torture for you monkey.

African immigrants have the highest academic achievement in the US

In an analysis of Census Bureau data by the Journal of Blacks in higher education, African immigrants to the United States were found more likely to be college educated than any other immigrant group. African immigrants to the U.S. are also more highly educated than any other native-born ethnic group including white Americans. Some 48.9 percent of all African immigrants hold a college diploma. This is slightly more than the percentage of Asian immigrants to the U.S., nearly double the rate of native-born white Americans, and nearly four times the rate of native-born African Americans.

Give them a couple of generations and they'll probably sink down to the same level feral American blacks are at.

 

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Blacks should be ashamed to rely on affirmative action. That reliance demonstrates how inferior they are. Instead, they think affirmative action is something they are entitled to.

Affirmative action reinforces the accurate perception that the Negro race is intrinsically inferior.

Why would Blacks be ashamed of affirmative action when whites had it for 350 years and the present day AA benefits white women more than anyone else? Sorry monkey boy but you cant shame Black people for taking advantage of the hand up your people needed and used for 350 years.

What matters is that the Negro race is on the average considerably less intelligent than the white race. The failure of No Child Left Behind makes that graphically obvious. Racial parity cannot be achieved without advancing many blacks to positions where they lack the native ability to perform adequately. This is obvious to whites who have had to work with blacks who owed their positions to affirmative action.

What matters is that your opinions don't constitute facts. The fact I am more intelligent than you are should be ample evidence that that racial parity is achievable. If you can provide a link to a law that says AA has to be given to anyone that is unqualified please produce it. If not then the only thing you are doing is scratching your furry ass and making monkey noises as usual. Now I'm going to ask you again. Why did whites need AA for 350 plus years to get where they are?

Whites got where we are because we are a superior race. You have never achieved anything because you are an inferior race. You never could have invented air planes and computers. You haven't got the brains for it.

The following chart demonstrates that from the school year of 1986 - 87 the gap in average SAT scores between blacks and whites has grown.

Fast Facts

We would be far better off without you. We do not owe you anything but one way tickets back to Africa.

Whites are not superior at anything except violence, war, and mayhem. We would be far better off without you. You avoided my question Where is the link that says AA has to be given to someone that is unqualified? Your refusal to address this weakens your position monkey boy.

Hmm, do you want to compare this to where it is that whites are living in majority white communities around America, and then where blacks are living in majority black communities around America ? What would the stats on violence, war, and mayhem tell you then about these two peoples mentioned ? I have a black family right now that has moved into our majority white community, and guess what ? They tell me how great it was to get out of the majority black community in which they were living, and so I ask my new friend why was that ? Well you don't want to know the answer, but if you insist I will tell you the answer that I got from them.

One of the comments was that they feel much safer where they are now, and I believed them.