Affirmative Action

[RoshanNair]

Most of us call it the reality of cause and effect.

Most of us call your post bullshit.

Of course I expect you to deny the real issues. If you young Black males continue your denial then you should expect to find your unemployment rate to hit 30% soon. Continue to drop out of school and become totally unemployable even in the most unskilled of jobs.

2 things.

1. If you arent Black dont worry about if unless you are invited. You have too many issues you need to fix in the white community.

2. Start another thread instead of deflecting from the OP and invite people to it.

Yep. Dismiss any and all real causes for effect. Deny any responsibility.

I dont have to deny anything to you. You are white so I dont answer to you.

What a ridiculous mindset.

 

[Asclepias]

Most of us call your post bullshit.

Of course I expect you to deny the real issues. If you young Black males continue your denial then you should expect to find your unemployment rate to hit 30% soon. Continue to drop out of school and become totally unemployable even in the most unskilled of jobs.

2 things.

1. If you arent Black dont worry about if unless you are invited. You have too many issues you need to fix in the white community.

2. Start another thread instead of deflecting from the OP and invite people to it.

Yep. Dismiss any and all real causes for effect. Deny any responsibility.

I dont have to deny anything to you. You are white so I dont answer to you.

What a ridiculous mindset.

Explain your reasoning.

 

[RoshanNair]

There's that adorable victimhood, once again.

African-Americans haven't suffered an ounce of how bad Jews had it in Europe for well over a millennium, and yet they continued to prosper while you continue to whine.

Unfortunately shame doesnt work on me.

There is no greater disaster than what happened to African Americans here in the US.

You are also attempting to deflect the point which is we are talking about here in the US. I wont allow you to do that. Stay focused. Nor are we talking about fairytales in the bible.

Jews were never enslaved here in the US for centuries then subjected to Jim Crow.

Actually, what African-Americans suffered here pales in comparison to the genocidal onslaught and land expropriations suffered by Natives. Yet it seems that the incessant whining of the African-American community outdoes that of other aggrieved peoples.

The point about the Jews is, they've suffered much greater hardships and surmounted those challenges. Why have African-Americans squandered every chance they've been given to do the same?

Actually NA's are about the closest but even they were never enslaved for centuries and had their families destroyed etc etc. They were robbed of their land and look at where they are right now and they were able to keep their history, language and customs.

The Jews did not suffer greater hardships. Sorry but repeating the same thing over and over again doesnt make it true. The Jews were also able to keep their history, customs, religions and were hard to detect being white themselves. Your argument fails on every level of rationality.

They suffered arguably the greatest genocide in human history according to contemporary scholars like David Stannard, Ronald Wright, etc., but thanks for trying! Look where they are now? Being decimated on isolated reservations as opposed to African-Americans at least have the luxury of living in the mainstream urban environment?

The Jews did endure greater tribulations, sorry. The Jews were expelled from over 100 countries being forced to leave absolutely anything and everything aside from their relatives, were barred from most occupations, frequently suffered violence, were forced to live in secluded ghettos, suffered millions of their coreligionists kiss the sword of Christ and endure baptism at the point of near-death, were victims of cultural genocide, etc etc.

Compare that to a couple hundred years of slavery and a century of segregation? Doesn't compute.

Thats correct "arguably" means its arguable. The Black Americans went through much worse. They were transported across the ocean in conditions unfit for animals. They were raped, tortured, maimed, killed and tossed overboard like chunks of meat. They were brought to the bahamas and mentally broken or killed. Those that were broken were moved on to the US to be slaves. Their families were sold off, the men demasculinized and the family unit shattered for over 2 centuries. During these 2 centuries the men were forced to rape young Black girls to produce more slaves. The men had to stand by and watch their females raped by savage white boys and unable to do anything about it further reinforcing to the Black female that the Black man could not protect her. They were not allowed to learn to read. They were forced to take another religion that told them their condition was decreed by God which sunk another harpoon into the Black collective. Once they finally were freed they were making gigantic strides only to have whites decide they simply couldnt have that. The (40 acres) land was returned to the white slave owners and Black codes were legalized which required Black men to have job and if not they would be force to work for free for former slave owners. Where ever they tried to build successful communities envious and cowardly whites destroyed them and engaged in ethnic cleansing if the Black labor was not needed and the number of Blacks in the area were low enough for them to do so with a numerical advantage. Then came Jim Crow which ensured white people they would get the resources, jobs, etc etc they needed and did not want Blacks to have. Blacks were not allowed to vote in many areas. Once Black people finally got their rights the police state moved in placing more Black men in prison for the Industrial Prison Complex. This is about where we stand today. You honestly must be high if believe there is a worse story. Arguably simply doesnt cut it.

Your lack of a worldview shines yet again. Go take a look at what happened to Jews or NA's before indulging in such shameless self-pity.

India controlled more than a quarter of the world's GDP prior to colonialism and was the wealthiest single land mass at the time, and sadly today most of the people in the country have been rendered destitute and living the life of squalor after two centuries of British rule. Do you hear me complaining about the evil, white bogeyman who's constantly keeping me down? Lol.

 

[RoshanNair]

Of course I expect you to deny the real issues. If you young Black males continue your denial then you should expect to find your unemployment rate to hit 30% soon. Continue to drop out of school and become totally unemployable even in the most unskilled of jobs.

2 things.

1. If you arent Black dont worry about if unless you are invited. You have too many issues you need to fix in the white community.

2. Start another thread instead of deflecting from the OP and invite people to it.

Yep. Dismiss any and all real causes for effect. Deny any responsibility.

I dont have to deny anything to you. You are white so I dont answer to you.

What a ridiculous mindset.

Explain your reasoning.

You refuse to respond to him because he's White, and yet you're constantly parroting the discrimination against Blacks in this country?

 

[Asclepias]

Unfortunately shame doesnt work on me.

There is no greater disaster than what happened to African Americans here in the US.

You are also attempting to deflect the point which is we are talking about here in the US. I wont allow you to do that. Stay focused. Nor are we talking about fairytales in the bible.

Jews were never enslaved here in the US for centuries then subjected to Jim Crow.

Actually, what African-Americans suffered here pales in comparison to the genocidal onslaught and land expropriations suffered by Natives. Yet it seems that the incessant whining of the African-American community outdoes that of other aggrieved peoples.

The point about the Jews is, they've suffered much greater hardships and surmounted those challenges. Why have African-Americans squandered every chance they've been given to do the same?

Actually NA's are about the closest but even they were never enslaved for centuries and had their families destroyed etc etc. They were robbed of their land and look at where they are right now and they were able to keep their history, language and customs.

The Jews did not suffer greater hardships. Sorry but repeating the same thing over and over again doesnt make it true. The Jews were also able to keep their history, customs, religions and were hard to detect being white themselves. Your argument fails on every level of rationality.

They suffered arguably the greatest genocide in human history according to contemporary scholars like David Stannard, Ronald Wright, etc., but thanks for trying! Look where they are now? Being decimated on isolated reservations as opposed to African-Americans at least have the luxury of living in the mainstream urban environment?

The Jews did endure greater tribulations, sorry. The Jews were expelled from over 100 countries being forced to leave absolutely anything and everything aside from their relatives, were barred from most occupations, frequently suffered violence, were forced to live in secluded ghettos, suffered millions of their coreligionists kiss the sword of Christ and endure baptism at the point of near-death, were victims of cultural genocide, etc etc.

Compare that to a couple hundred years of slavery and a century of segregation? Doesn't compute.

Thats correct "arguably" means its arguable. The Black Americans went through much worse. They were transported across the ocean in conditions unfit for animals. They were raped, tortured, maimed, killed and tossed overboard like chunks of meat. They were brought to the bahamas and mentally broken or killed. Those that were broken were moved on to the US to be slaves. Their families were sold off, the men demasculinized and the family unit shattered for over 2 centuries. During these 2 centuries the men were forced to rape young Black girls to produce more slaves. The men had to stand by and watch their females raped by savage white boys and unable to do anything about it further reinforcing to the Black female that the Black man could not protect her. They were not allowed to learn to read. They were forced to take another religion that told them their condition was decreed by God which sunk another harpoon into the Black collective. Once they finally were freed they were making gigantic strides only to have whites decide they simply couldnt have that. The (40 acres) land was returned to the white slave owners and Black codes were legalized which required Black men to have job and if not they would be force to work for free for former slave owners. Where ever they tried to build successful communities envious and cowardly whites destroyed them and engaged in ethnic cleansing if the Black labor was not needed and the number of Blacks in the area were low enough for them to do so with a numerical advantage. Then came Jim Crow which ensured white people they would get the resources, jobs, etc etc they needed and did not want Blacks to have. Blacks were not allowed to vote in many areas. Once Black people finally got their rights the police state moved in placing more Black men in prison for the Industrial Prison Complex. This is about where we stand today. You honestly must be high if believe there is a worse story. Arguably simply doesnt cut it.

Your lack of a worldview shines yet again. Go take a look at what happened to Jews or NA's before indulging in such shameless self-pity.

India controlled more than a quarter of the world's GDP prior to colonialism and was the wealthiest single land mass at the time, and sadly today the vast majority of the people in the country have been rendered destitute and living the life of squalor after two centuries of British rule. Do you hear me complaining about the evil, white bogeyman who's constantly keeping me down? Lol.

I probably have a better world view than 90% of the people on earth. Facts are not self pity. If I indulged in self pity I would not be where I am today. I already know what happened to the Jews and the NA's. It simply doesnt compare. Neither group lost what made their culture unique so the survivors were able to pick up and carry own in the case of the Jews. In the case of the NA's their refusal to assimilate has held them back and for that they are being punished. They still had their 40 acres whereas the Black people had theirs taken from them after coming up with the idea and Sherman making it so. Neither group went through the systematic mental torture and destruction of their family unit.

India is not the US and if I understood your last post you live in the US not India? No one is keeping me down. I'm impossible to keep down because I know my history and I dont quit moving forward no matter the odds. The fact that I know my history doesnt change the reality. I simply out work white people because I can see the system is stacked in their favor.

 

[Asclepias]

2 things.

1. If you arent Black dont worry about if unless you are invited. You have too many issues you need to fix in the white community.

2. Start another thread instead of deflecting from the OP and invite people to it.

Yep. Dismiss any and all real causes for effect. Deny any responsibility.

I dont have to deny anything to you. You are white so I dont answer to you.

What a ridiculous mindset.

Explain your reasoning.

You refuse to respond to him because he's White, and yet you're constantly parroting the discrimination against Blacks in this country?

He doesnt want a discussion. He wants to tell me whats wrong with the Black community as if I (a Black man) am too stupid to know myself. My talking to him about Black issues does nothing because of his mentality and the fact that he is part of the problem which he refuses to consider.

The other reason is because he is off topic precisely because his argument against AA is based on myths and fairytales. Since he cant discuss the OP he has decided to divert to Black issues. You must not be aware that you should stay on topic.

 

[the_human_being]

Actually, what African-Americans suffered here pales in comparison to the genocidal onslaught and land expropriations suffered by Natives. Yet it seems that the incessant whining of the African-American community outdoes that of other aggrieved peoples.

The point about the Jews is, they've suffered much greater hardships and surmounted those challenges. Why have African-Americans squandered every chance they've been given to do the same?

Actually NA's are about the closest but even they were never enslaved for centuries and had their families destroyed etc etc. They were robbed of their land and look at where they are right now and they were able to keep their history, language and customs.

The Jews did not suffer greater hardships. Sorry but repeating the same thing over and over again doesnt make it true. The Jews were also able to keep their history, customs, religions and were hard to detect being white themselves. Your argument fails on every level of rationality.

They suffered arguably the greatest genocide in human history according to contemporary scholars like David Stannard, Ronald Wright, etc., but thanks for trying! Look where they are now? Being decimated on isolated reservations as opposed to African-Americans at least have the luxury of living in the mainstream urban environment?

The Jews did endure greater tribulations, sorry. The Jews were expelled from over 100 countries being forced to leave absolutely anything and everything aside from their relatives, were barred from most occupations, frequently suffered violence, were forced to live in secluded ghettos, suffered millions of their coreligionists kiss the sword of Christ and endure baptism at the point of near-death, were victims of cultural genocide, etc etc.

Compare that to a couple hundred years of slavery and a century of segregation? Doesn't compute.

Thats correct "arguably" means its arguable. The Black Americans went through much worse. They were transported across the ocean in conditions unfit for animals. They were raped, tortured, maimed, killed and tossed overboard like chunks of meat. They were brought to the bahamas and mentally broken or killed. Those that were broken were moved on to the US to be slaves. Their families were sold off, the men demasculinized and the family unit shattered for over 2 centuries. During these 2 centuries the men were forced to rape young Black girls to produce more slaves. The men had to stand by and watch their females raped by savage white boys and unable to do anything about it further reinforcing to the Black female that the Black man could not protect her. They were not allowed to learn to read. They were forced to take another religion that told them their condition was decreed by God which sunk another harpoon into the Black collective. Once they finally were freed they were making gigantic strides only to have whites decide they simply couldnt have that. The (40 acres) land was returned to the white slave owners and Black codes were legalized which required Black men to have job and if not they would be force to work for free for former slave owners. Where ever they tried to build successful communities envious and cowardly whites destroyed them and engaged in ethnic cleansing if the Black labor was not needed and the number of Blacks in the area were low enough for them to do so with a numerical advantage. Then came Jim Crow which ensured white people they would get the resources, jobs, etc etc they needed and did not want Blacks to have. Blacks were not allowed to vote in many areas. Once Black people finally got their rights the police state moved in placing more Black men in prison for the Industrial Prison Complex. This is about where we stand today. You honestly must be high if believe there is a worse story. Arguably simply doesnt cut it.

Your lack of a worldview shines yet again. Go take a look at what happened to Jews or NA's before indulging in such shameless self-pity.

India controlled more than a quarter of the world's GDP prior to colonialism and was the wealthiest single land mass at the time, and sadly today the vast majority of the people in the country have been rendered destitute and living the life of squalor after two centuries of British rule. Do you hear me complaining about the evil, white bogeyman who's constantly keeping me down? Lol.

I probably have a better world view than 90% of the people on earth. Facts are not self pity. If I indulged in self pity I would not be where I am today. I already know what happened to the Jews and the NA's. It simply doesnt compare. Neither group lost what made their culture unique so the survivors were able to pick up and carry own in the case of the Jews. In the case of the NA's their refusal to assimilate has held them back and for that they are being punished. They still had their 40 acres whereas the Black people had theirs taken from them after coming up with the idea and Sherman making it so. Neither group went through the systematic mental torture and destruction of their family unit.

India is not the US and if I understood your last post you live in the US not India? No one is keeping me down. I'm impossible to keep down because I know my history and I dont quit moving forward no matter the odds. The fact that I know my history doesnt change the reality. I simply out work white people because I can see the system is stacked in their favor.

When are you finally going to get around to telling RoshanAir how much she owes to a poor old abused cotton-picking slave like you in reparations? After all, that is your primary goal and you are angry because it is once again slipping away from your grasp with the new GOP Congress and Obama's granting of amnesty to the illegal Hispanics.

Indeed, explain how she owes you reparations because she is benefiting from all that cotton you picked back before the Civil War.

 

[the_human_being]

Yep. Dismiss any and all real causes for effect. Deny any responsibility.

I dont have to deny anything to you. You are white so I dont answer to you.

What a ridiculous mindset.

Explain your reasoning.

You refuse to respond to him because he's White, and yet you're constantly parroting the discrimination against Blacks in this country?

He doesnt want a discussion. He wants to tell me whats wrong with the Black community as if I (a Black man) am too stupid to know myself. My talking to him about Black issues does nothing because of his mentality and the fact that he is part of the problem which he refuses to consider.

The other reason is because he is off topic precisely because his argument against AA is based on myths and fairytales. Since he cant discuss the OP he has decided to divert to Black issues. You must not be aware that you should stay on topic.

You must be aware that you must deny the real underlying cause and continue to cry "VICTIM" at all cost.

 

[RoshanNair]

Actually, what African-Americans suffered here pales in comparison to the genocidal onslaught and land expropriations suffered by Natives. Yet it seems that the incessant whining of the African-American community outdoes that of other aggrieved peoples.

The point about the Jews is, they've suffered much greater hardships and surmounted those challenges. Why have African-Americans squandered every chance they've been given to do the same?

Actually NA's are about the closest but even they were never enslaved for centuries and had their families destroyed etc etc. They were robbed of their land and look at where they are right now and they were able to keep their history, language and customs.

The Jews did not suffer greater hardships. Sorry but repeating the same thing over and over again doesnt make it true. The Jews were also able to keep their history, customs, religions and were hard to detect being white themselves. Your argument fails on every level of rationality.

They suffered arguably the greatest genocide in human history according to contemporary scholars like David Stannard, Ronald Wright, etc., but thanks for trying! Look where they are now? Being decimated on isolated reservations as opposed to African-Americans at least have the luxury of living in the mainstream urban environment?

The Jews did endure greater tribulations, sorry. The Jews were expelled from over 100 countries being forced to leave absolutely anything and everything aside from their relatives, were barred from most occupations, frequently suffered violence, were forced to live in secluded ghettos, suffered millions of their coreligionists kiss the sword of Christ and endure baptism at the point of near-death, were victims of cultural genocide, etc etc.

Compare that to a couple hundred years of slavery and a century of segregation? Doesn't compute.

Thats correct "arguably" means its arguable. The Black Americans went through much worse. They were transported across the ocean in conditions unfit for animals. They were raped, tortured, maimed, killed and tossed overboard like chunks of meat. They were brought to the bahamas and mentally broken or killed. Those that were broken were moved on to the US to be slaves. Their families were sold off, the men demasculinized and the family unit shattered for over 2 centuries. During these 2 centuries the men were forced to rape young Black girls to produce more slaves. The men had to stand by and watch their females raped by savage white boys and unable to do anything about it further reinforcing to the Black female that the Black man could not protect her. They were not allowed to learn to read. They were forced to take another religion that told them their condition was decreed by God which sunk another harpoon into the Black collective. Once they finally were freed they were making gigantic strides only to have whites decide they simply couldnt have that. The (40 acres) land was returned to the white slave owners and Black codes were legalized which required Black men to have job and if not they would be force to work for free for former slave owners. Where ever they tried to build successful communities envious and cowardly whites destroyed them and engaged in ethnic cleansing if the Black labor was not needed and the number of Blacks in the area were low enough for them to do so with a numerical advantage. Then came Jim Crow which ensured white people they would get the resources, jobs, etc etc they needed and did not want Blacks to have. Blacks were not allowed to vote in many areas. Once Black people finally got their rights the police state moved in placing more Black men in prison for the Industrial Prison Complex. This is about where we stand today. You honestly must be high if believe there is a worse story. Arguably simply doesnt cut it.

Your lack of a worldview shines yet again. Go take a look at what happened to Jews or NA's before indulging in such shameless self-pity.

India controlled more than a quarter of the world's GDP prior to colonialism and was the wealthiest single land mass at the time, and sadly today the vast majority of the people in the country have been rendered destitute and living the life of squalor after two centuries of British rule. Do you hear me complaining about the evil, white bogeyman who's constantly keeping me down? Lol.

I probably have a better world view than 90% of the people on earth. Facts are not self pity. If I indulged in self pity I would not be where I am today. I already know what happened to the Jews and the NA's. It simply doesnt compare. Neither group lost what made their culture unique so the survivors were able to pick up and carry own in the case of the Jews. In the case of the NA's their refusal to assimilate has held them back and for that they are being punished. They still had their 40 acres whereas the Black people had theirs taken from them after coming up with the idea and Sherman making it so. Neither group went through the systematic mental torture and destruction of their family unit.

India is not the US and if I understood your last post you live in the US not India? No one is keeping me down. I'm impossible to keep down because I know my history and I dont quit moving forward no matter the odds. The fact that I know my history doesnt change the reality. I simply out work white people because I can see the system is stacked in their favor.

Actually NA's are about the closest but even they were never enslaved for centuries and had their families destroyed etc etc. They were robbed of their land and look at where they are right now and they were able to keep their history, language and customs.

The Jews did not suffer greater hardships. Sorry but repeating the same thing over and over again doesnt make it true. The Jews were also able to keep their history, customs, religions and were hard to detect being white themselves. Your argument fails on every level of rationality.

They suffered arguably the greatest genocide in human history according to contemporary scholars like David Stannard, Ronald Wright, etc., but thanks for trying! Look where they are now? Being decimated on isolated reservations as opposed to African-Americans at least have the luxury of living in the mainstream urban environment?

The Jews did endure greater tribulations, sorry. The Jews were expelled from over 100 countries being forced to leave absolutely anything and everything aside from their relatives, were barred from most occupations, frequently suffered violence, were forced to live in secluded ghettos, suffered millions of their coreligionists kiss the sword of Christ and endure baptism at the point of near-death, were victims of cultural genocide, etc etc.

Compare that to a couple hundred years of slavery and a century of segregation? Doesn't compute.

Thats correct "arguably" means its arguable. The Black Americans went through much worse. They were transported across the ocean in conditions unfit for animals. They were raped, tortured, maimed, killed and tossed overboard like chunks of meat. They were brought to the bahamas and mentally broken or killed. Those that were broken were moved on to the US to be slaves. Their families were sold off, the men demasculinized and the family unit shattered for over 2 centuries. During these 2 centuries the men were forced to rape young Black girls to produce more slaves. The men had to stand by and watch their females raped by savage white boys and unable to do anything about it further reinforcing to the Black female that the Black man could not protect her. They were not allowed to learn to read. They were forced to take another religion that told them their condition was decreed by God which sunk another harpoon into the Black collective. Once they finally were freed they were making gigantic strides only to have whites decide they simply couldnt have that. The (40 acres) land was returned to the white slave owners and Black codes were legalized which required Black men to have job and if not they would be force to work for free for former slave owners. Where ever they tried to build successful communities envious and cowardly whites destroyed them and engaged in ethnic cleansing if the Black labor was not needed and the number of Blacks in the area were low enough for them to do so with a numerical advantage. Then came Jim Crow which ensured white people they would get the resources, jobs, etc etc they needed and did not want Blacks to have. Blacks were not allowed to vote in many areas. Once Black people finally got their rights the police state moved in placing more Black men in prison for the Industrial Prison Complex. This is about where we stand today. You honestly must be high if believe there is a worse story. Arguably simply doesnt cut it.

Your lack of a worldview shines yet again. Go take a look at what happened to Jews or NA's before indulging in such shameless self-pity.

India controlled more than a quarter of the world's GDP prior to colonialism and was the wealthiest single land mass at the time, and sadly today the vast majority of the people in the country have been rendered destitute and living the life of squalor after two centuries of British rule. Do you hear me complaining about the evil, white bogeyman who's constantly keeping me down? Lol.

I probably have a better world view than 90% of the people on earth. Facts are not self pity. If I indulged in self pity I would not be where I am today. I already know what happened to the Jews and the NA's. It simply doesnt compare. Neither group lost what made their culture unique so the survivors were able to pick up and carry own in the case of the Jews. In the case of the NA's their refusal to assimilate has held them back and for that they are being punished. They still had their 40 acres whereas the Black people had theirs taken from them after coming up with the idea and Sherman making it so. Neither group went through the systematic mental torture and destruction of their family unit.

India is not the US and if I understood your last post you live in the US not India? No one is keeping me down. I'm impossible to keep down because I know my history and I dont quit moving forward no matter the odds. The fact that I know my history doesnt change the reality. I simply out work white people because I can see the system is stacked in their favor.

When are you finally going to get around to telling RoshanAir how much she owes to a poor old abused cotton-picking slave like you in reparations? After all, that is your primary goal and you are angry because it is once again slipping away from your grasp with the new GOP Congress and Obama's granting of amnesty to the illegal Hispanics.

Indeed, explain how she owes you reparations because she is benefiting from all that cotton you picked back before the Civil War.

I'm a "he". ****, I'm really starting to regret this choice of avatar hahahah.

 

[Asclepias]

Actually NA's are about the closest but even they were never enslaved for centuries and had their families destroyed etc etc. They were robbed of their land and look at where they are right now and they were able to keep their history, language and customs.

The Jews did not suffer greater hardships. Sorry but repeating the same thing over and over again doesnt make it true. The Jews were also able to keep their history, customs, religions and were hard to detect being white themselves. Your argument fails on every level of rationality.

They suffered arguably the greatest genocide in human history according to contemporary scholars like David Stannard, Ronald Wright, etc., but thanks for trying! Look where they are now? Being decimated on isolated reservations as opposed to African-Americans at least have the luxury of living in the mainstream urban environment?

The Jews did endure greater tribulations, sorry. The Jews were expelled from over 100 countries being forced to leave absolutely anything and everything aside from their relatives, were barred from most occupations, frequently suffered violence, were forced to live in secluded ghettos, suffered millions of their coreligionists kiss the sword of Christ and endure baptism at the point of near-death, were victims of cultural genocide, etc etc.

Compare that to a couple hundred years of slavery and a century of segregation? Doesn't compute.

Thats correct "arguably" means its arguable. The Black Americans went through much worse. They were transported across the ocean in conditions unfit for animals. They were raped, tortured, maimed, killed and tossed overboard like chunks of meat. They were brought to the bahamas and mentally broken or killed. Those that were broken were moved on to the US to be slaves. Their families were sold off, the men demasculinized and the family unit shattered for over 2 centuries. During these 2 centuries the men were forced to rape young Black girls to produce more slaves. The men had to stand by and watch their females raped by savage white boys and unable to do anything about it further reinforcing to the Black female that the Black man could not protect her. They were not allowed to learn to read. They were forced to take another religion that told them their condition was decreed by God which sunk another harpoon into the Black collective. Once they finally were freed they were making gigantic strides only to have whites decide they simply couldnt have that. The (40 acres) land was returned to the white slave owners and Black codes were legalized which required Black men to have job and if not they would be force to work for free for former slave owners. Where ever they tried to build successful communities envious and cowardly whites destroyed them and engaged in ethnic cleansing if the Black labor was not needed and the number of Blacks in the area were low enough for them to do so with a numerical advantage. Then came Jim Crow which ensured white people they would get the resources, jobs, etc etc they needed and did not want Blacks to have. Blacks were not allowed to vote in many areas. Once Black people finally got their rights the police state moved in placing more Black men in prison for the Industrial Prison Complex. This is about where we stand today. You honestly must be high if believe there is a worse story. Arguably simply doesnt cut it.

Your lack of a worldview shines yet again. Go take a look at what happened to Jews or NA's before indulging in such shameless self-pity.

India controlled more than a quarter of the world's GDP prior to colonialism and was the wealthiest single land mass at the time, and sadly today the vast majority of the people in the country have been rendered destitute and living the life of squalor after two centuries of British rule. Do you hear me complaining about the evil, white bogeyman who's constantly keeping me down? Lol.

I probably have a better world view than 90% of the people on earth. Facts are not self pity. If I indulged in self pity I would not be where I am today. I already know what happened to the Jews and the NA's. It simply doesnt compare. Neither group lost what made their culture unique so the survivors were able to pick up and carry own in the case of the Jews. In the case of the NA's their refusal to assimilate has held them back and for that they are being punished. They still had their 40 acres whereas the Black people had theirs taken from them after coming up with the idea and Sherman making it so. Neither group went through the systematic mental torture and destruction of their family unit.

India is not the US and if I understood your last post you live in the US not India? No one is keeping me down. I'm impossible to keep down because I know my history and I dont quit moving forward no matter the odds. The fact that I know my history doesnt change the reality. I simply out work white people because I can see the system is stacked in their favor.

When are you finally going to get around to telling RoshanAir how much she owes to a poor old abused cotton-picking slave like you in reparations? After all, that is your primary goal and you are angry because it is once again slipping away from your grasp with the new GOP Congress and Obama's granting of amnesty to the illegal Hispanics.

Indeed, explain how she owes you reparations because she is benefiting from all that cotton you picked back before the Civil War.

Why would I tell her that? She didnt do anything to me or my ancestors. The US owes reparations not any individual. Again this is another attempt to deflect the issue. Why are you having such a hard time staying on topic?.

 

[the_human_being]

Actually NA's are about the closest but even they were never enslaved for centuries and had their families destroyed etc etc. They were robbed of their land and look at where they are right now and they were able to keep their history, language and customs.

The Jews did not suffer greater hardships. Sorry but repeating the same thing over and over again doesnt make it true. The Jews were also able to keep their history, customs, religions and were hard to detect being white themselves. Your argument fails on every level of rationality.

They suffered arguably the greatest genocide in human history according to contemporary scholars like David Stannard, Ronald Wright, etc., but thanks for trying! Look where they are now? Being decimated on isolated reservations as opposed to African-Americans at least have the luxury of living in the mainstream urban environment?

The Jews did endure greater tribulations, sorry. The Jews were expelled from over 100 countries being forced to leave absolutely anything and everything aside from their relatives, were barred from most occupations, frequently suffered violence, were forced to live in secluded ghettos, suffered millions of their coreligionists kiss the sword of Christ and endure baptism at the point of near-death, were victims of cultural genocide, etc etc.

Compare that to a couple hundred years of slavery and a century of segregation? Doesn't compute.

Thats correct "arguably" means its arguable. The Black Americans went through much worse. They were transported across the ocean in conditions unfit for animals. They were raped, tortured, maimed, killed and tossed overboard like chunks of meat. They were brought to the bahamas and mentally broken or killed. Those that were broken were moved on to the US to be slaves. Their families were sold off, the men demasculinized and the family unit shattered for over 2 centuries. During these 2 centuries the men were forced to rape young Black girls to produce more slaves. The men had to stand by and watch their females raped by savage white boys and unable to do anything about it further reinforcing to the Black female that the Black man could not protect her. They were not allowed to learn to read. They were forced to take another religion that told them their condition was decreed by God which sunk another harpoon into the Black collective. Once they finally were freed they were making gigantic strides only to have whites decide they simply couldnt have that. The (40 acres) land was returned to the white slave owners and Black codes were legalized which required Black men to have job and if not they would be force to work for free for former slave owners. Where ever they tried to build successful communities envious and cowardly whites destroyed them and engaged in ethnic cleansing if the Black labor was not needed and the number of Blacks in the area were low enough for them to do so with a numerical advantage. Then came Jim Crow which ensured white people they would get the resources, jobs, etc etc they needed and did not want Blacks to have. Blacks were not allowed to vote in many areas. Once Black people finally got their rights the police state moved in placing more Black men in prison for the Industrial Prison Complex. This is about where we stand today. You honestly must be high if believe there is a worse story. Arguably simply doesnt cut it.

Your lack of a worldview shines yet again. Go take a look at what happened to Jews or NA's before indulging in such shameless self-pity.

India controlled more than a quarter of the world's GDP prior to colonialism and was the wealthiest single land mass at the time, and sadly today the vast majority of the people in the country have been rendered destitute and living the life of squalor after two centuries of British rule. Do you hear me complaining about the evil, white bogeyman who's constantly keeping me down? Lol.

I probably have a better world view than 90% of the people on earth. Facts are not self pity. If I indulged in self pity I would not be where I am today. I already know what happened to the Jews and the NA's. It simply doesnt compare. Neither group lost what made their culture unique so the survivors were able to pick up and carry own in the case of the Jews. In the case of the NA's their refusal to assimilate has held them back and for that they are being punished. They still had their 40 acres whereas the Black people had theirs taken from them after coming up with the idea and Sherman making it so. Neither group went through the systematic mental torture and destruction of their family unit.

India is not the US and if I understood your last post you live in the US not India? No one is keeping me down. I'm impossible to keep down because I know my history and I dont quit moving forward no matter the odds. The fact that I know my history doesnt change the reality. I simply out work white people because I can see the system is stacked in their favor.

They suffered arguably the greatest genocide in human history according to contemporary scholars like David Stannard, Ronald Wright, etc., but thanks for trying! Look where they are now? Being decimated on isolated reservations as opposed to African-Americans at least have the luxury of living in the mainstream urban environment?

The Jews did endure greater tribulations, sorry. The Jews were expelled from over 100 countries being forced to leave absolutely anything and everything aside from their relatives, were barred from most occupations, frequently suffered violence, were forced to live in secluded ghettos, suffered millions of their coreligionists kiss the sword of Christ and endure baptism at the point of near-death, were victims of cultural genocide, etc etc.

Compare that to a couple hundred years of slavery and a century of segregation? Doesn't compute.

Thats correct "arguably" means its arguable. The Black Americans went through much worse. They were transported across the ocean in conditions unfit for animals. They were raped, tortured, maimed, killed and tossed overboard like chunks of meat. They were brought to the bahamas and mentally broken or killed. Those that were broken were moved on to the US to be slaves. Their families were sold off, the men demasculinized and the family unit shattered for over 2 centuries. During these 2 centuries the men were forced to rape young Black girls to produce more slaves. The men had to stand by and watch their females raped by savage white boys and unable to do anything about it further reinforcing to the Black female that the Black man could not protect her. They were not allowed to learn to read. They were forced to take another religion that told them their condition was decreed by God which sunk another harpoon into the Black collective. Once they finally were freed they were making gigantic strides only to have whites decide they simply couldnt have that. The (40 acres) land was returned to the white slave owners and Black codes were legalized which required Black men to have job and if not they would be force to work for free for former slave owners. Where ever they tried to build successful communities envious and cowardly whites destroyed them and engaged in ethnic cleansing if the Black labor was not needed and the number of Blacks in the area were low enough for them to do so with a numerical advantage. Then came Jim Crow which ensured white people they would get the resources, jobs, etc etc they needed and did not want Blacks to have. Blacks were not allowed to vote in many areas. Once Black people finally got their rights the police state moved in placing more Black men in prison for the Industrial Prison Complex. This is about where we stand today. You honestly must be high if believe there is a worse story. Arguably simply doesnt cut it.

Your lack of a worldview shines yet again. Go take a look at what happened to Jews or NA's before indulging in such shameless self-pity.

India controlled more than a quarter of the world's GDP prior to colonialism and was the wealthiest single land mass at the time, and sadly today the vast majority of the people in the country have been rendered destitute and living the life of squalor after two centuries of British rule. Do you hear me complaining about the evil, white bogeyman who's constantly keeping me down? Lol.

I probably have a better world view than 90% of the people on earth. Facts are not self pity. If I indulged in self pity I would not be where I am today. I already know what happened to the Jews and the NA's. It simply doesnt compare. Neither group lost what made their culture unique so the survivors were able to pick up and carry own in the case of the Jews. In the case of the NA's their refusal to assimilate has held them back and for that they are being punished. They still had their 40 acres whereas the Black people had theirs taken from them after coming up with the idea and Sherman making it so. Neither group went through the systematic mental torture and destruction of their family unit.

India is not the US and if I understood your last post you live in the US not India? No one is keeping me down. I'm impossible to keep down because I know my history and I dont quit moving forward no matter the odds. The fact that I know my history doesnt change the reality. I simply out work white people because I can see the system is stacked in their favor.

When are you finally going to get around to telling RoshanAir how much she owes to a poor old abused cotton-picking slave like you in reparations? After all, that is your primary goal and you are angry because it is once again slipping away from your grasp with the new GOP Congress and Obama's granting of amnesty to the illegal Hispanics.

Indeed, explain how she owes you reparations because she is benefiting from all that cotton you picked back before the Civil War.

I'm a "he". ****, I'm really starting to regret this choice of avatar hahahah.

Yeah, it really throws one off the mark.

 

[the_human_being]

They suffered arguably the greatest genocide in human history according to contemporary scholars like David Stannard, Ronald Wright, etc., but thanks for trying! Look where they are now? Being decimated on isolated reservations as opposed to African-Americans at least have the luxury of living in the mainstream urban environment?

The Jews did endure greater tribulations, sorry. The Jews were expelled from over 100 countries being forced to leave absolutely anything and everything aside from their relatives, were barred from most occupations, frequently suffered violence, were forced to live in secluded ghettos, suffered millions of their coreligionists kiss the sword of Christ and endure baptism at the point of near-death, were victims of cultural genocide, etc etc.

Compare that to a couple hundred years of slavery and a century of segregation? Doesn't compute.

Thats correct "arguably" means its arguable. The Black Americans went through much worse. They were transported across the ocean in conditions unfit for animals. They were raped, tortured, maimed, killed and tossed overboard like chunks of meat. They were brought to the bahamas and mentally broken or killed. Those that were broken were moved on to the US to be slaves. Their families were sold off, the men demasculinized and the family unit shattered for over 2 centuries. During these 2 centuries the men were forced to rape young Black girls to produce more slaves. The men had to stand by and watch their females raped by savage white boys and unable to do anything about it further reinforcing to the Black female that the Black man could not protect her. They were not allowed to learn to read. They were forced to take another religion that told them their condition was decreed by God which sunk another harpoon into the Black collective. Once they finally were freed they were making gigantic strides only to have whites decide they simply couldnt have that. The (40 acres) land was returned to the white slave owners and Black codes were legalized which required Black men to have job and if not they would be force to work for free for former slave owners. Where ever they tried to build successful communities envious and cowardly whites destroyed them and engaged in ethnic cleansing if the Black labor was not needed and the number of Blacks in the area were low enough for them to do so with a numerical advantage. Then came Jim Crow which ensured white people they would get the resources, jobs, etc etc they needed and did not want Blacks to have. Blacks were not allowed to vote in many areas. Once Black people finally got their rights the police state moved in placing more Black men in prison for the Industrial Prison Complex. This is about where we stand today. You honestly must be high if believe there is a worse story. Arguably simply doesnt cut it.

Your lack of a worldview shines yet again. Go take a look at what happened to Jews or NA's before indulging in such shameless self-pity.

India controlled more than a quarter of the world's GDP prior to colonialism and was the wealthiest single land mass at the time, and sadly today the vast majority of the people in the country have been rendered destitute and living the life of squalor after two centuries of British rule. Do you hear me complaining about the evil, white bogeyman who's constantly keeping me down? Lol.

I probably have a better world view than 90% of the people on earth. Facts are not self pity. If I indulged in self pity I would not be where I am today. I already know what happened to the Jews and the NA's. It simply doesnt compare. Neither group lost what made their culture unique so the survivors were able to pick up and carry own in the case of the Jews. In the case of the NA's their refusal to assimilate has held them back and for that they are being punished. They still had their 40 acres whereas the Black people had theirs taken from them after coming up with the idea and Sherman making it so. Neither group went through the systematic mental torture and destruction of their family unit.

India is not the US and if I understood your last post you live in the US not India? No one is keeping me down. I'm impossible to keep down because I know my history and I dont quit moving forward no matter the odds. The fact that I know my history doesnt change the reality. I simply out work white people because I can see the system is stacked in their favor.

When are you finally going to get around to telling RoshanAir how much she owes to a poor old abused cotton-picking slave like you in reparations? After all, that is your primary goal and you are angry because it is once again slipping away from your grasp with the new GOP Congress and Obama's granting of amnesty to the illegal Hispanics.

Indeed, explain how she owes you reparations because she is benefiting from all that cotton you picked back before the Civil War.

Why would I tell her that? She didnt do anything to me or my ancestors. The US owes reparations not any individual. Again this is another attempt to deflect the issue. Why are you having such a hard time staying on topic?.

Who the hell is the US? You really should have continued in school past the third grade and maybe you would have learned that the US is "We the PEOPLE".

 

[RoshanNair]

They suffered arguably the greatest genocide in human history according to contemporary scholars like David Stannard, Ronald Wright, etc., but thanks for trying! Look where they are now? Being decimated on isolated reservations as opposed to African-Americans at least have the luxury of living in the mainstream urban environment?

The Jews did endure greater tribulations, sorry. The Jews were expelled from over 100 countries being forced to leave absolutely anything and everything aside from their relatives, were barred from most occupations, frequently suffered violence, were forced to live in secluded ghettos, suffered millions of their coreligionists kiss the sword of Christ and endure baptism at the point of near-death, were victims of cultural genocide, etc etc.

Compare that to a couple hundred years of slavery and a century of segregation? Doesn't compute.

Thats correct "arguably" means its arguable. The Black Americans went through much worse. They were transported across the ocean in conditions unfit for animals. They were raped, tortured, maimed, killed and tossed overboard like chunks of meat. They were brought to the bahamas and mentally broken or killed. Those that were broken were moved on to the US to be slaves. Their families were sold off, the men demasculinized and the family unit shattered for over 2 centuries. During these 2 centuries the men were forced to rape young Black girls to produce more slaves. The men had to stand by and watch their females raped by savage white boys and unable to do anything about it further reinforcing to the Black female that the Black man could not protect her. They were not allowed to learn to read. They were forced to take another religion that told them their condition was decreed by God which sunk another harpoon into the Black collective. Once they finally were freed they were making gigantic strides only to have whites decide they simply couldnt have that. The (40 acres) land was returned to the white slave owners and Black codes were legalized which required Black men to have job and if not they would be force to work for free for former slave owners. Where ever they tried to build successful communities envious and cowardly whites destroyed them and engaged in ethnic cleansing if the Black labor was not needed and the number of Blacks in the area were low enough for them to do so with a numerical advantage. Then came Jim Crow which ensured white people they would get the resources, jobs, etc etc they needed and did not want Blacks to have. Blacks were not allowed to vote in many areas. Once Black people finally got their rights the police state moved in placing more Black men in prison for the Industrial Prison Complex. This is about where we stand today. You honestly must be high if believe there is a worse story. Arguably simply doesnt cut it.

Your lack of a worldview shines yet again. Go take a look at what happened to Jews or NA's before indulging in such shameless self-pity.

India controlled more than a quarter of the world's GDP prior to colonialism and was the wealthiest single land mass at the time, and sadly today the vast majority of the people in the country have been rendered destitute and living the life of squalor after two centuries of British rule. Do you hear me complaining about the evil, white bogeyman who's constantly keeping me down? Lol.

I probably have a better world view than 90% of the people on earth. Facts are not self pity. If I indulged in self pity I would not be where I am today. I already know what happened to the Jews and the NA's. It simply doesnt compare. Neither group lost what made their culture unique so the survivors were able to pick up and carry own in the case of the Jews. In the case of the NA's their refusal to assimilate has held them back and for that they are being punished. They still had their 40 acres whereas the Black people had theirs taken from them after coming up with the idea and Sherman making it so. Neither group went through the systematic mental torture and destruction of their family unit.

India is not the US and if I understood your last post you live in the US not India? No one is keeping me down. I'm impossible to keep down because I know my history and I dont quit moving forward no matter the odds. The fact that I know my history doesnt change the reality. I simply out work white people because I can see the system is stacked in their favor.

Thats correct "arguably" means its arguable. The Black Americans went through much worse. They were transported across the ocean in conditions unfit for animals. They were raped, tortured, maimed, killed and tossed overboard like chunks of meat. They were brought to the bahamas and mentally broken or killed. Those that were broken were moved on to the US to be slaves. Their families were sold off, the men demasculinized and the family unit shattered for over 2 centuries. During these 2 centuries the men were forced to rape young Black girls to produce more slaves. The men had to stand by and watch their females raped by savage white boys and unable to do anything about it further reinforcing to the Black female that the Black man could not protect her. They were not allowed to learn to read. They were forced to take another religion that told them their condition was decreed by God which sunk another harpoon into the Black collective. Once they finally were freed they were making gigantic strides only to have whites decide they simply couldnt have that. The (40 acres) land was returned to the white slave owners and Black codes were legalized which required Black men to have job and if not they would be force to work for free for former slave owners. Where ever they tried to build successful communities envious and cowardly whites destroyed them and engaged in ethnic cleansing if the Black labor was not needed and the number of Blacks in the area were low enough for them to do so with a numerical advantage. Then came Jim Crow which ensured white people they would get the resources, jobs, etc etc they needed and did not want Blacks to have. Blacks were not allowed to vote in many areas. Once Black people finally got their rights the police state moved in placing more Black men in prison for the Industrial Prison Complex. This is about where we stand today. You honestly must be high if believe there is a worse story. Arguably simply doesnt cut it.

Your lack of a worldview shines yet again. Go take a look at what happened to Jews or NA's before indulging in such shameless self-pity.

India controlled more than a quarter of the world's GDP prior to colonialism and was the wealthiest single land mass at the time, and sadly today the vast majority of the people in the country have been rendered destitute and living the life of squalor after two centuries of British rule. Do you hear me complaining about the evil, white bogeyman who's constantly keeping me down? Lol.

I probably have a better world view than 90% of the people on earth. Facts are not self pity. If I indulged in self pity I would not be where I am today. I already know what happened to the Jews and the NA's. It simply doesnt compare. Neither group lost what made their culture unique so the survivors were able to pick up and carry own in the case of the Jews. In the case of the NA's their refusal to assimilate has held them back and for that they are being punished. They still had their 40 acres whereas the Black people had theirs taken from them after coming up with the idea and Sherman making it so. Neither group went through the systematic mental torture and destruction of their family unit.

India is not the US and if I understood your last post you live in the US not India? No one is keeping me down. I'm impossible to keep down because I know my history and I dont quit moving forward no matter the odds. The fact that I know my history doesnt change the reality. I simply out work white people because I can see the system is stacked in their favor.

When are you finally going to get around to telling RoshanAir how much she owes to a poor old abused cotton-picking slave like you in reparations? After all, that is your primary goal and you are angry because it is once again slipping away from your grasp with the new GOP Congress and Obama's granting of amnesty to the illegal Hispanics.

Indeed, explain how she owes you reparations because she is benefiting from all that cotton you picked back before the Civil War.

I'm a "he". ****, I'm really starting to regret this choice of avatar hahahah.

Yeah, it really throws one off the mark.

Hopefully this changes things, sorry again. Lol.

 

[Asclepias]

Thats correct "arguably" means its arguable. The Black Americans went through much worse. They were transported across the ocean in conditions unfit for animals. They were raped, tortured, maimed, killed and tossed overboard like chunks of meat. They were brought to the bahamas and mentally broken or killed. Those that were broken were moved on to the US to be slaves. Their families were sold off, the men demasculinized and the family unit shattered for over 2 centuries. During these 2 centuries the men were forced to rape young Black girls to produce more slaves. The men had to stand by and watch their females raped by savage white boys and unable to do anything about it further reinforcing to the Black female that the Black man could not protect her. They were not allowed to learn to read. They were forced to take another religion that told them their condition was decreed by God which sunk another harpoon into the Black collective. Once they finally were freed they were making gigantic strides only to have whites decide they simply couldnt have that. The (40 acres) land was returned to the white slave owners and Black codes were legalized which required Black men to have job and if not they would be force to work for free for former slave owners. Where ever they tried to build successful communities envious and cowardly whites destroyed them and engaged in ethnic cleansing if the Black labor was not needed and the number of Blacks in the area were low enough for them to do so with a numerical advantage. Then came Jim Crow which ensured white people they would get the resources, jobs, etc etc they needed and did not want Blacks to have. Blacks were not allowed to vote in many areas. Once Black people finally got their rights the police state moved in placing more Black men in prison for the Industrial Prison Complex. This is about where we stand today. You honestly must be high if believe there is a worse story. Arguably simply doesnt cut it.

Your lack of a worldview shines yet again. Go take a look at what happened to Jews or NA's before indulging in such shameless self-pity.

India controlled more than a quarter of the world's GDP prior to colonialism and was the wealthiest single land mass at the time, and sadly today the vast majority of the people in the country have been rendered destitute and living the life of squalor after two centuries of British rule. Do you hear me complaining about the evil, white bogeyman who's constantly keeping me down? Lol.

I probably have a better world view than 90% of the people on earth. Facts are not self pity. If I indulged in self pity I would not be where I am today. I already know what happened to the Jews and the NA's. It simply doesnt compare. Neither group lost what made their culture unique so the survivors were able to pick up and carry own in the case of the Jews. In the case of the NA's their refusal to assimilate has held them back and for that they are being punished. They still had their 40 acres whereas the Black people had theirs taken from them after coming up with the idea and Sherman making it so. Neither group went through the systematic mental torture and destruction of their family unit.

India is not the US and if I understood your last post you live in the US not India? No one is keeping me down. I'm impossible to keep down because I know my history and I dont quit moving forward no matter the odds. The fact that I know my history doesnt change the reality. I simply out work white people because I can see the system is stacked in their favor.

When are you finally going to get around to telling RoshanAir how much she owes to a poor old abused cotton-picking slave like you in reparations? After all, that is your primary goal and you are angry because it is once again slipping away from your grasp with the new GOP Congress and Obama's granting of amnesty to the illegal Hispanics.

Indeed, explain how she owes you reparations because she is benefiting from all that cotton you picked back before the Civil War.

Why would I tell her that? She didnt do anything to me or my ancestors. The US owes reparations not any individual. Again this is another attempt to deflect the issue. Why are you having such a hard time staying on topic?.

Who the hell is the US? You really should have continued in school past the third grade and maybe you would have learned that the US is "We the PEOPLE".

We the people is plural dummy. Its not one single individual. Since Black people pay taxes they would be paying for their own reparations as well.. You should have stayed in school past the 4th grade instead of dropping out after the 3rd.

 

[Godboy]

Your lack of a worldview shines yet again. Go take a look at what happened to Jews or NA's before indulging in such shameless self-pity.

India controlled more than a quarter of the world's GDP prior to colonialism and was the wealthiest single land mass at the time, and sadly today the vast majority of the people in the country have been rendered destitute and living the life of squalor after two centuries of British rule. Do you hear me complaining about the evil, white bogeyman who's constantly keeping me down? Lol.

I probably have a better world view than 90% of the people on earth. Facts are not self pity. If I indulged in self pity I would not be where I am today. I already know what happened to the Jews and the NA's. It simply doesnt compare. Neither group lost what made their culture unique so the survivors were able to pick up and carry own in the case of the Jews. In the case of the NA's their refusal to assimilate has held them back and for that they are being punished. They still had their 40 acres whereas the Black people had theirs taken from them after coming up with the idea and Sherman making it so. Neither group went through the systematic mental torture and destruction of their family unit.

India is not the US and if I understood your last post you live in the US not India? No one is keeping me down. I'm impossible to keep down because I know my history and I dont quit moving forward no matter the odds. The fact that I know my history doesnt change the reality. I simply out work white people because I can see the system is stacked in their favor.

When are you finally going to get around to telling RoshanAir how much she owes to a poor old abused cotton-picking slave like you in reparations? After all, that is your primary goal and you are angry because it is once again slipping away from your grasp with the new GOP Congress and Obama's granting of amnesty to the illegal Hispanics.

Indeed, explain how she owes you reparations because she is benefiting from all that cotton you picked back before the Civil War.

Why would I tell her that? She didnt do anything to me or my ancestors. The US owes reparations not any individual. Again this is another attempt to deflect the issue. Why are you having such a hard time staying on topic?.

Who the hell is the US? You really should have continued in school past the third grade and maybe you would have learned that the US is "We the PEOPLE".

We the people is plural dummy. Its not one single individual. Since Black people pay taxes they would be paying for their own reparations as well.. You should have stayed in school past the 4th grade instead of dropping out after the 3rd.

If you had continued school past the 3rd grade, you would know there isnt a chance in hell that we are going to give you reparations. We have decided that you can all go **** yourselves.

 

[Asclepias]

I probably have a better world view than 90% of the people on earth. Facts are not self pity. If I indulged in self pity I would not be where I am today. I already know what happened to the Jews and the NA's. It simply doesnt compare. Neither group lost what made their culture unique so the survivors were able to pick up and carry own in the case of the Jews. In the case of the NA's their refusal to assimilate has held them back and for that they are being punished. They still had their 40 acres whereas the Black people had theirs taken from them after coming up with the idea and Sherman making it so. Neither group went through the systematic mental torture and destruction of their family unit.

India is not the US and if I understood your last post you live in the US not India? No one is keeping me down. I'm impossible to keep down because I know my history and I dont quit moving forward no matter the odds. The fact that I know my history doesnt change the reality. I simply out work white people because I can see the system is stacked in their favor.

When are you finally going to get around to telling RoshanAir how much she owes to a poor old abused cotton-picking slave like you in reparations? After all, that is your primary goal and you are angry because it is once again slipping away from your grasp with the new GOP Congress and Obama's granting of amnesty to the illegal Hispanics.

Indeed, explain how she owes you reparations because she is benefiting from all that cotton you picked back before the Civil War.

Why would I tell her that? She didnt do anything to me or my ancestors. The US owes reparations not any individual. Again this is another attempt to deflect the issue. Why are you having such a hard time staying on topic?.

Who the hell is the US? You really should have continued in school past the third grade and maybe you would have learned that the US is "We the PEOPLE".

We the people is plural dummy. Its not one single individual. Since Black people pay taxes they would be paying for their own reparations as well.. You should have stayed in school past the 4th grade instead of dropping out after the 3rd.

If you had continued school past the 3rd grade, you would know there isnt a chance in hell that we are going to give you reparations. We have decided that you can all go **** yourselves.

You may not have a choice. but like others on this thread you are deflecting far from the topic.

Obama Giving Black Farmers 1.25B in Reparations

Obama Giving Black Farmers $1.25B in Reparations

 

[beagle9]

Affirmative action is a cancer maligning the post-secondary institutions and job market in this country.

Asian and Indian-Americans are also victimized in addition to Whites by this bullshit policy.

Blacks should be ashamed to rely on affirmative action. That reliance demonstrates how inferior they are. Instead, they think affirmative action is something they are entitled to.

Affirmative action reinforces the accurate perception that the Negro race is intrinsically inferior.

What only thing that reinforces the "perception" of the inferiority of an entire race of people are willfully ignorant, uneducated bigots like you who do not really understand programs like affirmative action, and are looking for a crutch to justify their personal failures and lack of value to society.

The demographic that has benefitted the most from AA are white females.

Period.

Jumping back in here, so let me ask you an honest question then, and lets see if you can give me an honest answer... Does a persons skin color signal that a person is in need or rather is a good person who can be completely trusted as based upon their skin color in life ? All I keep seeing is this word black and the word white in referring to peoples color when trying to justify many things in this nation, and that is just wrong and is big time wrong now a days I think . The same goes for this AA in example of when think about it, and so should any of these things apply to a person purely based upon their skin color in life ? You see among all peoples of any color in the world, you have the bad, and of course you have the good, so why would anyone use a persons color as any justification for anything these days, and this when they are just as guilty of being bad just like any other can be also guilty of being bad in life ? I mean other than the usage of a persons character and good heart instead, I ask why does this color thing keep going on and on these days like it does ?

What I see is that the devil (bad spirit / evil one /influential one) who is among all peoples, and for whom can hide out in these idiot programs that are based upon someones skin color or a groups skin color is a bad bad thing. It allows the devil access to areas where as he or she shouldn't be allowed access to. The same goes for the usage of gender or other such idiocy that we see going on today, because that is no indicator of who that person is or who that person can be in life. It's time to abandon these foolish things, and begin to empower and lift up people based upon their good characters, and not upon their color and gender or other such non-sense as we keep trying to keep doing in America today. It's over, the devil has taken enough advantage of these things already, and it's time to leave that ole Beelzebub behind, and that means in every group that he has taken refuge in. The government has been completely foolish over the years, and the destruction we see across America is a fine example of that foolishness. The only thing that should be tolerated in society is good people of any and all colors, and good character of any and all colors. Sympathy for the devil has got to end, and that means it's time to leave him without a host in which to ride in on his high horse on, and to fool people as he is being protected by an ignorant and outdated government.

 

[beagle9]

When are you finally going to get around to telling RoshanAir how much she owes to a poor old abused cotton-picking slave like you in reparations? After all, that is your primary goal and you are angry because it is once again slipping away from your grasp with the new GOP Congress and Obama's granting of amnesty to the illegal Hispanics.

Indeed, explain how she owes you reparations because she is benefiting from all that cotton you picked back before the Civil War.

Why would I tell her that? She didnt do anything to me or my ancestors. The US owes reparations not any individual. Again this is another attempt to deflect the issue. Why are you having such a hard time staying on topic?.

Who the hell is the US? You really should have continued in school past the third grade and maybe you would have learned that the US is "We the PEOPLE".

We the people is plural dummy. Its not one single individual. Since Black people pay taxes they would be paying for their own reparations as well.. You should have stayed in school past the 4th grade instead of dropping out after the 3rd.

If you had continued school past the 3rd grade, you would know there isnt a chance in hell that we are going to give you reparations. We have decided that you can all go **** yourselves.

You may not have a choice. but like others on this thread you are deflecting far from the topic.

Obama Giving Black Farmers 1.25B in Reparations

Obama Giving Black Farmers $1.25B in Reparations

Hmmm, didn't you say that Obama wasn't doing anything like this, and asked me to bring proof of this a while back ? May not have been you, but someone did question me when I bought this up. I know a man that lives close to me, and I saw him going to the mail box with an envelope. He said that he was going to see if he could qualify for money that Obama decided to try and pay someone like him, because his dad was a farmer way back in the day. Now what would he do with this money I wondered ? Well he would pay his debt that had nothing to do with his dad being a farmer back in the day, but had everything to do with helping him for helping his sons who would wreck cars in which they were given them like parents do when trying to help their kids, and to try and pay for a car that one of the son's friends had stolen from them also. You all know what I'm saying and stuff like that. Then the money would be gone, and they would be no better off than they are now, so what has it all accomplished really ? When given the kids these cars, which is the same as money, did that help the kids ? Nope, they just squandered the gifts and showed their parents how much trouble they could get into, and so the parents had to learn that it wasn't the right thing to do in just giving someone something, but it better that it is worked for always. How many parents have been through this, and the government acting as parents are doing the same things to the citizens of this nation, and it is foolish to do so.

 

[beagle9]

I wouldn't give Obama another dime of this nations money, because he is going to extort and rob this nation's treasury at every angle he can, and that money will disappear without a trace whether here or over seas.

Sadly poverty will still be with us afterwards here, and it will also be with us in the world. That ole devil will be with us also in order to make sure of it all, so we must Unite or be destroyed by our own ignorance of these things, so what's it going to be folks ? Will it be United we stand or divided we soon shall FALL ?

 

[katsteve2012]

Affirmative action is a cancer maligning the post-secondary institutions and job market in this country.

Asian and Indian-Americans are also victimized in addition to Whites by this bullshit policy.

Blacks should be ashamed to rely on affirmative action. That reliance demonstrates how inferior they are. Instead, they think affirmative action is something they are entitled to.

Affirmative action reinforces the accurate perception that the Negro race is intrinsically inferior.

What only thing that reinforces the "perception" of the inferiority of an entire race of people are willfully ignorant, uneducated bigots like you who do not really understand programs like affirmative action, and are looking for a crutch to justify their personal failures and lack of value to society.

The demographic that has benefitted the most from AA are white females.

Period.

Jumping back in here, so let me ask you an honest question then, and lets see if you can give me an honest answer... Does a persons skin color signal that a person is in need or rather is a good person who can be completely trusted as based upon their skin color in life ? All I keep seeing is this word black and the word white in referring to peoples color when trying to justify many things in this nation, and that is just wrong and is big time wrong now a days I think . The same goes for this AA in example of when think about it, and so should any of these things apply to a person purely based upon their skin color in life ? You see among all peoples of any color in the world, you have the bad, and of course you have the good, so why would anyone use a persons color as any justification for anything these days, and this when they are just as guilty of being bad just like any other can be also guilty of being bad in life ? I mean other than the usage of a persons character and good heart instead, I ask why does this color thing keep going on and on these days like it does ?

What I see is that the devil (bad spirit / evil one /influential one) who is among all peoples, and for whom can hide out in these idiot programs that are based upon someones skin color or a groups skin color is a bad bad thing. It allows the devil access to areas where as he or she shouldn't be allowed access to. The same goes for the usage of gender or other such idiocy that we see going on today, because that is no indicator of who that person is or who that person can be in life. It's time to abandon these foolish things, and begin to empower and lift up people based upon their good characters, and not upon their color and gender or other such non-sense as we keep trying to keep going in America today. It's over, the devil has taken enough advantage of these things already, and it's time to leave that ole Beelzebub behind, and that means in every group that he has taken refuge in. The government has been completely foolish over the years, and the destruction we see across America is a fine example of that foolishness. The only thing that should be tolerated in society is good people of any and all colors, and good character of any and all colors. Sympathy for the devil has got to end, and that means it's time to leave him without a host in which to ride in on his high horse on, and to fool people as he is being protected by an ignorant and outdated government.

"Honest answers" are often deemed as being such when the one asking the "questions" hears what they want to hear in response, and then when the question is answered as honestly as the one being asked for answers, it is often not what those asking wish to hear.

The truth is that current AA policies are based more on gender than race, if they were solely based on race with black people as the beneficiaries, there would be anarchy in the streets.

My advice to those who actually believe that blacks are being "unfairly rewarded" by AA, and are the demographic that has resulted in the displacement of massive numbers of whites in the workforce or the college classroom, would be to take some time and read, word by word the original legislation as well as the updates to the policy since it's inception.

If one does so, and also examines the numbers as to who has benefitted the most from AA, it will become glaringly obvious that there are NOT massive numbers of black Americans benefitting from AA at the expense of white Americans.

It is much more likely that if a white male is passed up for a coveted job or promotion, it was a white female, and not a black person who was selected in place of him.