Affirmative Action

[RoshanNair]

Umm, how does a desire to be identified separately diminish what they've championed? Pathetic red herring on your part.

Yes. Basically they are pissed off because they dont have their own category. They are lumped in with the Asians. If they had their own category more NA's would be admitted. You cant really be this naive can you?

Your deductive reasoning is insubstantial, sorry. The CNN link I posted showed clearly that it was Chinese-Americans who were specified for their opposition to AA.

Your deductive reasoning leaves a lot to be desired. Sorry but from your own link.

And just as Latinos are divided on issues such as immigration and bilingual education, so, too, are there differences of opinion among Asian-Americans when the conversation turns to affirmative action

They insist that there is a quota to keep the Asian-American students below 50%, and that this primarily benefits white students who might not be able to compete head-to-head with Asian-Americans.

There are schisms in all collectives and groups, it's a law of averages. The fact remains, however, that the vociferous sentiment against AA stemming from non-White, non-Black racial minorities goes to show how reviled these reverse discrimination policies have come to be. Only African-Americans and Latinos seem to support this shit almost unanimously. Why is that?

Probably because we are the most discriminated against?

There's that adorable victimhood, once again.

African-Americans haven't suffered an ounce of how bad Jews had it in Europe for well over a millennium, and yet they continued to prosper while you continue to whine.

 

[Meathead]

Well we've already shown that you consider people on AA dismal failures as long as their skin is brown. Thats why you believe the label hasnt been shaken because blacks cannot change their color

Skin color is superficial to the success of races. Dark people form Asia, including Chinese, Vietnamese and Indians are often very accomplished and highly intelligent people. Negroids not so much. Squawk all you want, nothing is going to change that; never has.

Another myth trashed and debunked.

African immigrants have the highest academic achievement in the US

Africans have the highest educational attainment rates of any immigrant group in the United States with higher levels of completion than the stereotyped Asian American model minority. It is not only the first generation that does well, as estimates indicate that a highly disproportionate percentage of black students at elite universities are African or the children of African immigrants.

"African immigrants who arrive to the United States to bolster their education are the top academic achievers among non-natives. In an older study conducted using U.S. Census data, it was reported that 48.9 percent of African immigrants hold a college diploma."

It's called a brain-drain, and there are precious few to begin with. Most of those that are are from the north of Africa anyway. Why are American blacks so unintelligent anyway?

Answer: Because it's nature, not nurture.

If its nature and not nurture then the only difference is the white genes in most African Americans.

Oddly, as low as they are, American blacks score higher than Africans. There is an undeniable correlation between race and intelligence. This accounts squarely for the failure of your race the world over.

That's just plain fact.

 

[Asclepias]

Skin color is superficial to the success of races. Dark people form Asia, including Chinese, Vietnamese and Indians are often very accomplished and highly intelligent people. Negroids not so much. Squawk all you want, nothing is going to change that; never has.

Another myth trashed and debunked.

African immigrants have the highest academic achievement in the US

Africans have the highest educational attainment rates of any immigrant group in the United States with higher levels of completion than the stereotyped Asian American model minority. It is not only the first generation that does well, as estimates indicate that a highly disproportionate percentage of black students at elite universities are African or the children of African immigrants.

"African immigrants who arrive to the United States to bolster their education are the top academic achievers among non-natives. In an older study conducted using U.S. Census data, it was reported that 48.9 percent of African immigrants hold a college diploma."

It's called a brain-drain, and there are precious few to begin with. Most of those that are are from the north of Africa anyway. Why are American blacks so unintelligent anyway?

Answer: Because it's nature, not nurture.

If its nature and not nurture then the only difference is the white genes in most African Americans.

Oddly, as low as they are, American blacks score higher in IQ than Africans. Even with the likes of Martin and Brown, this is true. There is an undeniable correlation between race and intelligence. This accounts squarely for the failure of your race the world over.

That's just plain fact.

You keep avoiding the question. If both African and African Americans are Negroid whats the difference? Why do Africans outperform all races?. According to your lame theory Africans would be disasters since they are the purest of Black men

 

[Meathead]

Skin color is superficial to the success of races. Dark people form Asia, including Chinese, Vietnamese and Indians are often very accomplished and highly intelligent people. Negroids not so much. Squawk all you want, nothing is going to change that; never has.

Another myth trashed and debunked.

African immigrants have the highest academic achievement in the US

Africans have the highest educational attainment rates of any immigrant group in the United States with higher levels of completion than the stereotyped Asian American model minority. It is not only the first generation that does well, as estimates indicate that a highly disproportionate percentage of black students at elite universities are African or the children of African immigrants.

Yeah, but those aren't African-Americans. Stop trying to leech on their sound achievements.

How African-Americans and African immigrants differ

How African-Americans and African Immigrants Differ - The Globalist

^ African-American victimhood is a plague not only on the American mainstream but also within the communal fabric encompassing their fellow Blacks.

Arent Africans considered Negroid? Where do you think African Americans came from? Are you saying the reason Africans Americans under perform is due to having white genes in them? i told you that you better start reading better or I would have a field day with your posts.

Nope, nothing to do with "white genes" (what the ****, lol), and everything to do with fostering an environment conducive only for social decay, degeneration, and turmoil which African-Americans have succeeded in doing over the last half-a-century.

But if both Africans and African Americans are both Negroid what is the difference that is causing this?

Oddly, as low as they are, American blacks score higher in IQ than Africans. Even with the likes of Martin and Brown, this is true. There is an undeniable correlation between race and intelligence. This accounts squarely for the failure of your race the world over.

 

[Asclepias]

Yes. Basically they are pissed off because they dont have their own category. They are lumped in with the Asians. If they had their own category more NA's would be admitted. You cant really be this naive can you?

Your deductive reasoning is insubstantial, sorry. The CNN link I posted showed clearly that it was Chinese-Americans who were specified for their opposition to AA.

Your deductive reasoning leaves a lot to be desired. Sorry but from your own link.

And just as Latinos are divided on issues such as immigration and bilingual education, so, too, are there differences of opinion among Asian-Americans when the conversation turns to affirmative action

They insist that there is a quota to keep the Asian-American students below 50%, and that this primarily benefits white students who might not be able to compete head-to-head with Asian-Americans.

There are schisms in all collectives and groups, it's a law of averages. The fact remains, however, that the vociferous sentiment against AA stemming from non-White, non-Black racial minorities goes to show how reviled these reverse discrimination policies have come to be. Only African-Americans and Latinos seem to support this shit almost unanimously. Why is that?

Probably because we are the most discriminated against?

There's that adorable victimhood, once again.

African-Americans haven't suffered an ounce of how bad Jews had it in Europe for well over a millennium, and yet they continued to prosper while you continue to whine.

Unfortunately shame doesnt work on me.

There is no greater disaster than what happened to African Americans here in the US.

You are also attempting to deflect the point which is we are talking about here in the US. I wont allow you to do that. Stay focused. Nor are we talking about fairytales in the bible.

Jews were never enslaved here in the US for centuries then subjected to Jim Crow.

 

[RoshanNair]

Your deductive reasoning is insubstantial, sorry. The CNN link I posted showed clearly that it was Chinese-Americans who were specified for their opposition to AA.

Your deductive reasoning leaves a lot to be desired. Sorry but from your own link.

And just as Latinos are divided on issues such as immigration and bilingual education, so, too, are there differences of opinion among Asian-Americans when the conversation turns to affirmative action

They insist that there is a quota to keep the Asian-American students below 50%, and that this primarily benefits white students who might not be able to compete head-to-head with Asian-Americans.

There are schisms in all collectives and groups, it's a law of averages. The fact remains, however, that the vociferous sentiment against AA stemming from non-White, non-Black racial minorities goes to show how reviled these reverse discrimination policies have come to be. Only African-Americans and Latinos seem to support this shit almost unanimously. Why is that?

Probably because we are the most discriminated against?

There's that adorable victimhood, once again.

African-Americans haven't suffered an ounce of how bad Jews had it in Europe for well over a millennium, and yet they continued to prosper while you continue to whine.

Unfortunately shame doesnt work on me.

There is no greater disaster than what happened to African Americans here in the US.

You are also attempting to deflect the point which is we are talking about here in the US. I wont allow you to do that. Stay focused. Nor are we talking about fairytales in the bible.

Jews were never enslaved here in the US for centuries then subjected to Jim Crow.

Actually, what African-Americans suffered here pales in comparison to the genocidal onslaught and land expropriations suffered by Natives. Yet it seems that the incessant whining of the African-American community outdoes that of other aggrieved peoples.

The point about the Jews is, they've suffered much greater hardships and surmounted those challenges. Why have African-Americans squandered every chance they've been given to do the same?

 

[RoshanNair]

Some are, but blacks are by far the least successful demographic. The thing is that blacks will never be successful in relative terms. Nature cannot be overcome.

I'm Black and I am much more successful than you are by every imaginable metric.

Sure, and yet your community has yet to shake the label of "dismal failure" unlike other minority groups who've soared to the ceiling.

Well we've already shown that you consider people on AA dismal failures as long as their skin is brown. Thats why you believe the label hasnt been shaken because blacks cannot change their color

It's funny, since my skin is also "brown", or so I've been told.

Look at the idiot trying to wriggle away lol...You're a minority because you tan huh? lol

I'm of Indian origin. I figured that would be obvious from my name.

My parents immigrated here in the mid-80s and had to revamp their medical careers from scratch. Yet they were persistent in their pursuits and the family soon entered the top-20 percent in wealth and income. All the while having never endorsed or supported ridiculous quotas like AA to advance their interests

 

[Asclepias]

Your deductive reasoning leaves a lot to be desired. Sorry but from your own link.

There are schisms in all collectives and groups, it's a law of averages. The fact remains, however, that the vociferous sentiment against AA stemming from non-White, non-Black racial minorities goes to show how reviled these reverse discrimination policies have come to be. Only African-Americans and Latinos seem to support this shit almost unanimously. Why is that?

Probably because we are the most discriminated against?

There's that adorable victimhood, once again.

African-Americans haven't suffered an ounce of how bad Jews had it in Europe for well over a millennium, and yet they continued to prosper while you continue to whine.

Unfortunately shame doesnt work on me.

There is no greater disaster than what happened to African Americans here in the US.

You are also attempting to deflect the point which is we are talking about here in the US. I wont allow you to do that. Stay focused. Nor are we talking about fairytales in the bible.

Jews were never enslaved here in the US for centuries then subjected to Jim Crow.

Actually, what African-Americans suffered here pales in comparison to the genocidal onslaught and land expropriations suffered by Natives. Yet it seems that the incessant whining of the African-American community outdoes that of other aggrieved peoples.

The point about the Jews is, they've suffered much greater hardships and surmounted those challenges. Why have African-Americans squandered every chance they've been given to do the same?

Actually NA's are about the closest but even they were never enslaved for centuries and had their families destroyed etc etc. They were robbed of their land and look at where they are right now and they were able to keep their history, language and customs.

The Jews did not suffer greater hardships. Sorry but repeating the same thing over and over again doesnt make it true. The Jews were also able to keep their history, customs, religions and were hard to detect being white themselves. Your argument fails on every level of rationality.

 

[Asclepias]

I'm Black and I am much more successful than you are by every imaginable metric.

Sure, and yet your community has yet to shake the label of "dismal failure" unlike other minority groups who've soared to the ceiling.

Well we've already shown that you consider people on AA dismal failures as long as their skin is brown. Thats why you believe the label hasnt been shaken because blacks cannot change their color

It's funny, since my skin is also "brown", or so I've been told.

Look at the idiot trying to wriggle away lol...You're a minority because you tan huh? lol

I'm of Indian origin. I figured that would be obvious from my name.

My parents immigrated here in the mid-80s and had to revamp their medical careers from scratch. Yet they were persistent in their pursuits and the family soon entered the top-20 percent in wealth and income. All the while having never endorsed or supported ridiculous quotas like AA to advance their interests

They had to "revamp their medical careers"?

No wonder you are clueless concerning this issue.

Are you Dalit?

 

[Meathead]

The Jews did not suffer greater hardships. Sorry but repeating the same thing over and over again doesnt make it true. The Jews were also able to keep their history, customs, religions and were hard to detect being white themselves. Your argument fails on every level of rationality.

The Jews had something blacks never had: intelligence.

 

[RoshanNair]

Sure, and yet your community has yet to shake the label of "dismal failure" unlike other minority groups who've soared to the ceiling.

Well we've already shown that you consider people on AA dismal failures as long as their skin is brown. Thats why you believe the label hasnt been shaken because blacks cannot change their color

It's funny, since my skin is also "brown", or so I've been told.

Look at the idiot trying to wriggle away lol...You're a minority because you tan huh? lol

I'm of Indian origin. I figured that would be obvious from my name.

My parents immigrated here in the mid-80s and had to revamp their medical careers from scratch. Yet they were persistent in their pursuits and the family soon entered the top-20 percent in wealth and income. All the while having never endorsed or supported ridiculous quotas like AA to advance their interests

They had to "revamp their medical careers"?

No wonder you are clueless concerning this issue.

Are you Dalit?

Meh, it sounded better in my head than saying "re-start".

Also, no, I'm a Kshatriya although I no longer believe in or pay heed to the yoke of caste after I adopted Buddhism early on in my life.

 

[RoshanNair]

There are schisms in all collectives and groups, it's a law of averages. The fact remains, however, that the vociferous sentiment against AA stemming from non-White, non-Black racial minorities goes to show how reviled these reverse discrimination policies have come to be. Only African-Americans and Latinos seem to support this shit almost unanimously. Why is that?

Probably because we are the most discriminated against?

There's that adorable victimhood, once again.

African-Americans haven't suffered an ounce of how bad Jews had it in Europe for well over a millennium, and yet they continued to prosper while you continue to whine.

Unfortunately shame doesnt work on me.

There is no greater disaster than what happened to African Americans here in the US.

You are also attempting to deflect the point which is we are talking about here in the US. I wont allow you to do that. Stay focused. Nor are we talking about fairytales in the bible.

Jews were never enslaved here in the US for centuries then subjected to Jim Crow.

Actually, what African-Americans suffered here pales in comparison to the genocidal onslaught and land expropriations suffered by Natives. Yet it seems that the incessant whining of the African-American community outdoes that of other aggrieved peoples.

The point about the Jews is, they've suffered much greater hardships and surmounted those challenges. Why have African-Americans squandered every chance they've been given to do the same?

Actually NA's are about the closest but even they were never enslaved for centuries and had their families destroyed etc etc. They were robbed of their land and look at where they are right now and they were able to keep their history, language and customs.

The Jews did not suffer greater hardships. Sorry but repeating the same thing over and over again doesnt make it true. The Jews were also able to keep their history, customs, religions and were hard to detect being white themselves. Your argument fails on every level of rationality.

They suffered arguably the greatest genocide in human history according to contemporary scholars like David Stannard, Ronald Wright, etc., but thanks for trying! Look where they are now? Being decimated on isolated reservations as opposed to African-Americans at least have the luxury of living in the mainstream urban environment?

The Jews did endure greater tribulations, sorry. The Jews were expelled from over 100 countries being forced to leave absolutely anything and everything aside from their relatives, were barred from most occupations, frequently suffered violence, were forced to live in secluded ghettos, suffered millions of their coreligionists kiss the sword of Christ and endure baptism at the point of near-death, were victims of cultural genocide, etc etc.

Compare that to a couple hundred years of slavery and a century of segregation? Doesn't compute.

 

[the_human_being]

Care to comment on the reason(s) young Black males have a 22% unemployment rate while the rest of the nation has a 5.8% unemployment rate? Want to say something about the Black male school dropout rate even compared to the Black female dropout rate? Most employers I know reasonably expect at least a high school diploma from even no skill job applicants.

This is called a bait and switch. This is what normally happens when you realize reality doesnt meet up with your illusions so you try to change the subject.

Most of us call it the reality of cause and effect.

Most of us call your post bullshit.

Of course I expect you to deny the real issues. If you young Black males continue your denial then you should expect to find your unemployment rate to hit 30% soon. Continue to drop out of school and become totally unemployable even in the most unskilled of jobs.

2 things.

1. If you arent Black dont worry about if unless you are invited. You have too many issues you need to fix in the white community.

2. Start another thread instead of deflecting from the OP and invite people to it.

Yep. Dismiss any and all real causes for effect. Deny any responsibility.

 

[the_human_being]

Well we've already shown that you consider people on AA dismal failures as long as their skin is brown. Thats why you believe the label hasnt been shaken because blacks cannot change their color

It's funny, since my skin is also "brown", or so I've been told.

Look at the idiot trying to wriggle away lol...You're a minority because you tan huh? lol

I'm of Indian origin. I figured that would be obvious from my name.

My parents immigrated here in the mid-80s and had to revamp their medical careers from scratch. Yet they were persistent in their pursuits and the family soon entered the top-20 percent in wealth and income. All the while having never endorsed or supported ridiculous quotas like AA to advance their interests

They had to "revamp their medical careers"?

No wonder you are clueless concerning this issue.

Are you Dalit?

Meh, it sounded better in my head than saying "re-start".

Also, no, I'm a Kshatriya although I no longer believe in or pay heed to the yoke of caste after I adopted Buddhism early on in my life.

You are dealing with professional "victims" here who hate any successes obtained by immigrants. Such testimony denies their puny excuses and excise in putting the blame and responsibilities for their own failures on the shoulders of others.

 

[the_human_being]

Probably because we are the most discriminated against?

There's that adorable victimhood, once again.

African-Americans haven't suffered an ounce of how bad Jews had it in Europe for well over a millennium, and yet they continued to prosper while you continue to whine.

Unfortunately shame doesnt work on me.

There is no greater disaster than what happened to African Americans here in the US.

You are also attempting to deflect the point which is we are talking about here in the US. I wont allow you to do that. Stay focused. Nor are we talking about fairytales in the bible.

Jews were never enslaved here in the US for centuries then subjected to Jim Crow.

Actually, what African-Americans suffered here pales in comparison to the genocidal onslaught and land expropriations suffered by Natives. Yet it seems that the incessant whining of the African-American community outdoes that of other aggrieved peoples.

The point about the Jews is, they've suffered much greater hardships and surmounted those challenges. Why have African-Americans squandered every chance they've been given to do the same?

Actually NA's are about the closest but even they were never enslaved for centuries and had their families destroyed etc etc. They were robbed of their land and look at where they are right now and they were able to keep their history, language and customs.

The Jews did not suffer greater hardships. Sorry but repeating the same thing over and over again doesnt make it true. The Jews were also able to keep their history, customs, religions and were hard to detect being white themselves. Your argument fails on every level of rationality.

They suffered arguably the greatest genocide in human history according to contemporary scholars like David Stannard, Ronald Wright, etc., but thanks for trying! Look where they are now? Being decimated on isolated reservations as opposed to African-Americans at least have the luxury of living in the mainstream urban environment?

The Jews did endure greater tribulations, sorry. The Jews were expelled from over 100 countries being forced to leave absolutely anything and everything aside from their relatives, were barred from most occupations, frequently suffered violence, were forced to live in secluded ghettos, suffered millions of their coreligionists kiss the sword of Christ and endure baptism at the point of near-death, were victims of cultural genocide, etc etc.

Compare that to a couple hundred years of slavery and a century of segregation? Doesn't compute.

Indeed. Their entire history has been nothing but slavery, captivity, abuse and genocide. From Babylon to Hitler. The Blacks have never and will never suffer the evils heaped upon the Jews and Israelites.

 

[Asclepias]

This is called a bait and switch. This is what normally happens when you realize reality doesnt meet up with your illusions so you try to change the subject.

Most of us call it the reality of cause and effect.

Most of us call your post bullshit.

Of course I expect you to deny the real issues. If you young Black males continue your denial then you should expect to find your unemployment rate to hit 30% soon. Continue to drop out of school and become totally unemployable even in the most unskilled of jobs.

2 things.

1. If you arent Black dont worry about if unless you are invited. You have too many issues you need to fix in the white community.

2. Start another thread instead of deflecting from the OP and invite people to it.

Yep. Dismiss any and all real causes for effect. Deny any responsibility.

I dont have to deny anything to you. You are white so I dont answer to you.

 

[the_human_being]

Most of us call it the reality of cause and effect.

Most of us call your post bullshit.

Of course I expect you to deny the real issues. If you young Black males continue your denial then you should expect to find your unemployment rate to hit 30% soon. Continue to drop out of school and become totally unemployable even in the most unskilled of jobs.

2 things.

1. If you arent Black dont worry about if unless you are invited. You have too many issues you need to fix in the white community.

2. Start another thread instead of deflecting from the OP and invite people to it.

Yep. Dismiss any and all real causes for effect. Deny any responsibility.

I dont have to deny anything to you. You are white so I dont answer to you.

No you don't. I just hate to see you denying the truth to your self when you appear to be intelligent (some of the time) enough to realize that yopu are lying to yourself and everyone else knows it.

 

[RKMBrown]

Most of us call your post bullshit.

Of course I expect you to deny the real issues. If you young Black males continue your denial then you should expect to find your unemployment rate to hit 30% soon. Continue to drop out of school and become totally unemployable even in the most unskilled of jobs.

2 things.

1. If you arent Black dont worry about if unless you are invited. You have too many issues you need to fix in the white community.

2. Start another thread instead of deflecting from the OP and invite people to it.

Yep. Dismiss any and all real causes for effect. Deny any responsibility.

I dont have to deny anything to you. You are white so I dont answer to you.

No you don't. I just hate to see you denying the truth to your self when you appear to be intelligent (some of the time) enough to realize that yopu are lying to yourself and everyone else knows it.

The guy's just trolling you. He's not even black.

 

[Asclepias]

Probably because we are the most discriminated against?

There's that adorable victimhood, once again.

African-Americans haven't suffered an ounce of how bad Jews had it in Europe for well over a millennium, and yet they continued to prosper while you continue to whine.

Unfortunately shame doesnt work on me.

There is no greater disaster than what happened to African Americans here in the US.

You are also attempting to deflect the point which is we are talking about here in the US. I wont allow you to do that. Stay focused. Nor are we talking about fairytales in the bible.

Jews were never enslaved here in the US for centuries then subjected to Jim Crow.

Actually, what African-Americans suffered here pales in comparison to the genocidal onslaught and land expropriations suffered by Natives. Yet it seems that the incessant whining of the African-American community outdoes that of other aggrieved peoples.

The point about the Jews is, they've suffered much greater hardships and surmounted those challenges. Why have African-Americans squandered every chance they've been given to do the same?

Actually NA's are about the closest but even they were never enslaved for centuries and had their families destroyed etc etc. They were robbed of their land and look at where they are right now and they were able to keep their history, language and customs.

The Jews did not suffer greater hardships. Sorry but repeating the same thing over and over again doesnt make it true. The Jews were also able to keep their history, customs, religions and were hard to detect being white themselves. Your argument fails on every level of rationality.

They suffered arguably the greatest genocide in human history according to contemporary scholars like David Stannard, Ronald Wright, etc., but thanks for trying! Look where they are now? Being decimated on isolated reservations as opposed to African-Americans at least have the luxury of living in the mainstream urban environment?

The Jews did endure greater tribulations, sorry. The Jews were expelled from over 100 countries being forced to leave absolutely anything and everything aside from their relatives, were barred from most occupations, frequently suffered violence, were forced to live in secluded ghettos, suffered millions of their coreligionists kiss the sword of Christ and endure baptism at the point of near-death, were victims of cultural genocide, etc etc.

Compare that to a couple hundred years of slavery and a century of segregation? Doesn't compute.

Thats correct "arguably" means its arguable. The Black Americans went through much worse. They were transported across the ocean in conditions unfit for animals. They were raped, tortured, maimed, killed and tossed overboard like chunks of meat. They were brought to the bahamas and mentally broken or killed. Those that were broken were moved on to the US to be slaves. Their families were sold off, the men demasculinized and the family unit shattered for over 2 centuries. During these 2 centuries the men were forced to rape young Black girls to produce more slaves. The men had to stand by and watch their females raped by savage white boys and unable to do anything about it further reinforcing to the Black female that the Black man could not protect her. They were not allowed to learn to read. They were forced to take another religion that told them their condition was decreed by God which sunk another harpoon into the Black collective. Once they finally were freed they were making gigantic strides only to have whites decide they simply couldnt have that. The (40 acres) land was returned to the white slave owners and Black codes were legalized which required Black men to have job and if not they would be force to work for free for former slave owners. Where ever they tried to build successful communities envious and cowardly whites destroyed them and engaged in ethnic cleansing if the Black labor was not needed and the number of Blacks in the area were low enough for them to do so with a numerical advantage. Then came Jim Crow which ensured white people they would get the resources, jobs, etc etc they needed and did not want Blacks to have. Blacks were not allowed to vote in many areas. Once Black people finally got their rights the police state moved in placing more Black men in prison for the Industrial Prison Complex. This is about where we stand today. You honestly must be high if believe there is a worse story. Arguably simply doesnt cut it.

 

[Asclepias]

Most of us call your post bullshit.

Of course I expect you to deny the real issues. If you young Black males continue your denial then you should expect to find your unemployment rate to hit 30% soon. Continue to drop out of school and become totally unemployable even in the most unskilled of jobs.

2 things.

1. If you arent Black dont worry about if unless you are invited. You have too many issues you need to fix in the white community.

2. Start another thread instead of deflecting from the OP and invite people to it.

Yep. Dismiss any and all real causes for effect. Deny any responsibility.

I dont have to deny anything to you. You are white so I dont answer to you.

No you don't. I just hate to see you denying the truth to your self when you appear to be intelligent (some of the time) enough to realize that yopu are lying to yourself and everyone else knows it.

I dont deny anything to myself. You are white so I dont have a discussion with you on the issue because your opinion is not relevant.