- Oct 17, 2015
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I'm willing to change the way I present my opinions and arguments here in R&E. This is more a difficult forum, so other "faiths" are entitled to have their views and religion. It's not like Christianity comes out on top. Every valid religion is considered equal.Dear james bond and surada
A. I see no need to pass any judgment on a person or group, based on their existing preference for interpreting the Bible timeline on creation or development of the universe in stages:
1. I have friends who stick to the literal "6 days" meaning 6 days to humans, UNTIL there is unilateral agreement otherwise
2. I have friends who go with 6 days meaning 6 ages or stages of development which makes the most sense to me and seems more likely universal to align with other systems
3. I have friends who use secular science, and either believe or do not believe the carbon dating estimates, or accept or reject different versions of big bang/singularity/quantum/string/unified field theories, where I lump these together in framing the world as "self existing" and including all such theories or explanations as equally possible as describing the process of development
B. The issue of judging/rejecting people over some conflict is a SEPARATE topic to resolve in addition to A, the actual content and conflict being discussed or debated.
Can we agree not to hang or denigrate people for their views first (issue B) BEFORE trying to contrast and compare A?
I cannot follow what you are saying about A, if the conflicts caused by B interfere and obstruct objective sharing of the ideas and reasons behind each one.
Can we please take these separately, one before the other, instead of arguing personally and philosophically at the same time.
And I would have a fraction of the friends I have now if I had to go through the list and X off each person who held on to a theory that didn't match mine or everyone else. Maybe Jesus would still be my friend, but the rest of us would be doomed!
Also, you bring up science and do think it's difficult to separate one or the other. I think it's two sides of the same coin of truth.
Under religion, we argue about the age of the Earth since evolution needs long time and have dominated science in getting the general population to believe in a 4.54 billion year old Earth and 13.7 billion year old universe from 1956. God didn't discuss the age of the Earth. He told us only Earth is equipped for life even though the universe is vast. He told us that it's miraculous that the Earth hangs where it is and orbits the sun as well as spin on its own axis. It should be drawn towards the sun due to gravity based on science. He told us the universe has edges and is bounded. He told us the universe will continue to accelerate out. However, it's doubtful that we'll be able to explore it to find if there's any alien life out there or visit other galaxies. It seems that our end is closer than we think. He told us the universe is flat like a scroll and will be rolled up and destroyed one day.