Adam Schiff has just introduced a constitutional amendment to overturn Citizens United and stop unrestricted dark money in our elections

[Hutch Starskey]

yeah i guess, can you explain

No.
I guessed that you would understand.

 

[struth]

No.
I guessed that you would understand.

well you guessed wrong i have no idea what you are even trying to ask

 

[pknopp]

He also knows who will talk it down. Loudly.

Loudly?


Through 2004, all candidates in the general presidential election opted for public funding and reimbursement of their campaign expenses. Then, in 2008, Barack Obama became the first to give up this public funding, so that he could spend more than the limit of $84.1 million (which his opponent, John McCain, adhered to). Obama’s decision in 2008 marked the beginning of the end for the public funding of democracy in the United States, and since 2012 all candidates in the general presidential election have systematically rejected public funding. To repeat: their aim in doing this has been to avoid any constraints on the total amount they can spend.

Of course, it is impossible to know how things would have turned out if Barack Obama had not declined public funding—and thereby broken one of his campaign promises—in 2008.

How Barack Obama Spurred the End of America’s Public Presidential Election Funding System - ProMarket

 

[Rust_Cohle]

So you’re for this then?

I'm for getting money out of politics yes.

 

[berg80]

He's always been a drama queen.

Did he ever reveal his proof that Russian collusion was real?

He didn't have to, Mueller did.

Putting an end to an ubiquitous meme from Trump loyalists

It has been asserted hundreds of times by occupants of Trumpworld........the collusion hoax. It comes up in all manner of contexts. Most recently as a way to dismiss the 1/6 committee's work. Let's see what the facts say. Manafort conspired with Kilimnik to give the Kremlin internal polling...

www.usmessageboard.com

 

[berg80]

Elections shouldn’t be won on who can saturate the most markets with negative advertising.

Nor should they be won based on how much corporate interest, leading to dark money contributions, a candidate can attract.

 

[Wild Bill Kelsoe]

No they're not.

They're monetary donations.

My donation to a political campaign is absolutely an expression.

 

[Wild Bill Kelsoe]

Uh huh.
What will be the politics of the Republicans?

The same as the Democrats. The Democrats are counting on the Republicans to vote this down. That's why they proposed the amendment, now, instead of when they were in the majority.

 

[pknopp]

Elections shouldn’t be won on who can saturate the most markets with negative advertising.

When do you suppose someone will propose enacting regulations to stop the political parties from doing that?

 

[pknopp]

Citizens United was designed specifically to allow Political donations to Be exempt from any requirements that they be disclosed.

For example if you have a politician taking multimillion dollar donations from a company which they In charge of overseeing On a congressional committee, It might The American people left likely to vote for that person If they knew that he was taking those donations. In many cases Large corporate donations are basically Legalized bribery. Citizens United allow those Donations to be Clip done in secret and shielded from public scrutiny.

I am all four companies and people being allowed to make political donations but all donations should be disclosed so that the American people know whose pocket their leaders are in.

That's the thing about free speech you're free to say whatever you want, And if you want to consider spending money for an issue to be speech that's fine. But if I see someone wearing a mask while they're talking I'm going to assume that they're trying to hide their identity to protect themselves from being scrutinized for what they're saying because they know it's wrong. In the lack of disclosure requirements under citizens United is exactly the same thing.

Every penny gave to a political candidate must be disclosed.

 

[Wild Bill Kelsoe]

When do you suppose someone will propose enacting regulations to stop the political parties from doing that?

Never

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

He didn't have to, Mueller did.

Putting an end to an ubiquitous meme from Trump loyalists

It has been asserted hundreds of times by occupants of Trumpworld........the collusion hoax. It comes up in all manner of contexts. Most recently as a way to dismiss the 1/6 committee's work. Let's see what the facts say. Manafort conspired with Kilimnik to give the Kremlin internal polling...

www.usmessageboard.com

Will he ever provide proof?

Manafort conspired with Kilimnik to give the Kremlin internal polling data.

LOL!

Targeted Russian Facebook memes? DURR

 

[Wild Bill Kelsoe]

Citizens United was designed specifically to allow Political donations to Be exempt from any requirements that they be disclosed.

For example if you have a politician taking multimillion dollar donations from a company which they In charge of overseeing On a congressional committee, It might The American people left likely to vote for that person If they knew that he was taking those donations. In many cases Large corporate donations are basically Legalized bribery. Citizens United allow those Donations to be Clip done in secret and shielded from public scrutiny.

I am all four companies and people being allowed to make political donations but all donations should be disclosed so that the American people know whose pocket their leaders are in.

That's the thing about free speech you're free to say whatever you want, And if you want to consider spending money for an issue to be speech that's fine. But if I see someone wearing a mask while they're talking I'm going to assume that they're trying to hide their identity to protect themselves from being scrutinized for what they're saying because they know it's wrong. In the lack of disclosure requirements under citizens United is exactly the same thing.

Next you'll want to do away anonymous ballots.

 

[White 6]

Ok?
Perhaps he already knows how it will go and is using the result for a later purpose?

Later in the decade? He is elected by his district and I doubt this issue will motivate his district, as showing he will initiate bills with absolutely no hope of passage, just to draw attention to himself? Attention whores, pretty big and that district? I doubt it.

 

[White 6]

Because the Democratic party doesn't get donations from corporations.

Of course they do. Do you remember a major push to overturn the ruling when Nancy ran the place? Me neither.

 

[Billo_Really]

This would truly return power to the American people

God bless Adam Schiff!

 

[Hutch Starskey]

well you guessed wrong i have no idea what you are even trying to ask

Yes. I said that already.
Nothing escapes you.

 

[Hutch Starskey]

The same as the Democrats. The Democrats are counting on the Republicans to vote this down. That's why they proposed the amendment, now, instead of when they were in the majority.

No shit. The Republicans will happily oblige as well.
The American people will once again see a clear contrast of who is more serious about “draining the swamp”.

 

[Hutch Starskey]

When do you suppose someone will propose enacting regulations to stop the political parties from doing that?

They won’t be able to when the dark money dries up. That’s the point.

 

[Hutch Starskey]

Later in the decade? He is elected by his district and I doubt this issue will motivate his district, as showing he will initiate bills with absolutely no hope of passage, just to draw attention to himself? Attention whores, pretty big and that district? I doubt it.

It’s a good idea.
He only needs to show his willingness to engage on the subject while the Republicans squash it.

The contrast is clear.