According to the Bible...

[Ravi]

Again, Washington wasn't a klan member. None of the FF had the robes. Thomas Jefferson was fond of the sweet juice of the dark berry for christ sake. Regardless, the held on the longest and lost it's right to treat blacks like slaves. Your progeny will find the same thing happening to it.

He's got a point. Washington didn't have to belong to the KKK, no one did because blacks weren't considered quite human.

 

[Bass v 2.0]

Are you an ex-gay? I disagree, btw. I don't think gays have a choice about who they are attracted to, and I don't think it should be a requirement of any society that they give up love and/or sex because it makes some people squeamish.

The Bass an ex-gay? *NEVER*, this butt is God protected from homosexuality and neither has the Bass defiled himself with gay men. Gays have a choice, how else would ex-gays exist? my church offers counseling tó gays to hlp them overcome the grip of gay sex and same sex attraction. It works.

 

[Ravi]

The Bass an ex-gay? *NEVER*, this butt is God protected from homosexuality and neither has the Bass defiled himself with gay men. Gays have a choice, how else would ex-gays exist? my church offers counseling tó gays to hlp them overcome the grip of gay sex and same sex attraction. It works.

I doubt it. It is possible to shame people into thinking there is something wrong with them, though. And that's pretty sad.

 

[Anguille]

The Bass an ex-gay? *NEVER*, this butt is God protected from homosexuality and neither has the Bass defiled himself with gay men. Gays have a choice, how else would ex-gays exist? my church offers counseling tó gays to hlp them overcome the grip of gay sex and same sex attraction. It works.

I thought there were no gays in your neck of the woods?

 

[Bass v 2.0]

Again, Washington wasn't a klan member. None of the FF had the robes. Thomas Jefferson was fond of the sweet juice of the dark berry for christ sake. Regardless, the held on the longest and lost it's right to treat blacks like slaves. Your progeny will find the same thing happening to it.

White supremacy is a system, not something in which one has to be part of the Klan or skin heads:

"White Supremacy is an historically based, institutionally perpetuated system of exploitation and oppression of continents, nations, and peoples of color by white peoples and nations of the European continent, for the purpose of maintaining and defending a system of wealth, power, and privilege."

What is White Supremacy?

 

[Bass v 2.0]

I thought there were no gays in your neck of the woods?

There are none, those that do come here stay here and become straight or they leave straight.

 

[Shogun]

He's got a point. Washington didn't have to belong to the KKK, no one did because blacks weren't considered quite human.

which, given how blacks count NOW, unravels his opinon about gays not qualifying, regardless.

 

[Shogun]

The Bass an ex-gay? *NEVER*, this butt is God protected from homosexuality and neither has the Bass defiled himself with gay men. Gays have a choice, how else would ex-gays exist? my church offers counseling tó gays to hlp them overcome the grip of gay sex and same sex attraction. It works.

ex gays exist only in the minds of people who think homosexuality is a disease. again, try making the CHOICE to suck a dick and see what happens to your resolve.

church programs are no standard by which to determine gender orientation anyway. If that were the case, the south would still be black free.

 

[Shogun]

White supremacy is a system, not something in which one has to be part of the Klan or skin heads:

"White Supremacy is an historically based, institutionally perpetuated system of exploitation and oppression of continents, nations, and peoples of color by white peoples and nations of the European continent, for the purpose of maintaining and defending a system of wealth, power, and privilege."

What is White Supremacy?

be that as it may, the FACT remains that blacks were not counted then and ARE counted now... which kinda takes the air out of your argument that gays were not originally given rights by our Constitution.

 

[Shogun]

There are none, those that do come here stay here and become straight or they leave straight.

'cause someone's got a shotgun a waitin', eh? For real.. the irony of your posts is lynching me.

 

[Ravi]

which, given how blacks count NOW, unravels his opinon about gays not qualifying, regardless.

Exactly. I'm pretty sure he really knows that.

 

[jillian]

Michael Jackson is black, he even says so, but a black man can't change who he is. We are even discriminated against *BEFORE* even being born. A person is born black, not born gay and gays are hypocrites for saying ex-gays don't exist.

Ex gays DON'T exist. Closeted people do. And perhaps someone who's been discriminated against because of what he was born should think twice about discriminating against someone else.

 

[Bass v 2.0]

be that as it may, the FACT remains that blacks were not counted then and ARE counted now... which kinda takes the air out of your argument that gays were not originally given rights by our Constitution.

Gay rights is a movement to live a lifestyle, black civil rights is a struggle to be recognized as a human being, totally different

 

[Bass v 2.0]

Ex gays DON'T exist. Closeted people do. And perhaps someone who's been discriminated against because of what he was born should think twice about discriminating against someone else.

Ex-gays do exist, how don't they?

 

[Bass v 2.0]

'cause someone's got a shotgun a waitin', eh? For real.. the irony of your posts is lynching me.

No, gays just know this place isn't for them. Nothing here caters to homosexuality and or any kind of sexual perversion. No porn shops, strip clubs, porn videos and prostitutes here.

 

[Bass v 2.0]

ex gays exist only in the minds of people who think homosexuality is a disease. again, try making the CHOICE to suck a dick and see what happens to your resolve.

church programs are no standard by which to determine gender orientation anyway. If that were the case, the south would still be black free.

Thze two dont go together, being black and being gay are not the same and not even on the same plane. This is a lame attack.

 

[jillian]

Ex-gays do exist, how don't they?

because you can't change what someone is born. and all of the evidence about "changing gays" says it's pseudoscience religious garbage.

could you force yourself to be attracted to men?

 

[Abelian Sea]

Yep, I shot em, skin em and roast them, with some cornbread and collard greens and biscuits with butter.

Ah think ah'm beginin' to like you.

Don't worry, though; I'll steer clear of your holy hole, and I'm too much of a prude for you to catch me tongue-kissing anyone out on the street.


Anyway, I'm actually inclined to agree with you about homosexuality and Christian clergy. I think religions should have some extra leeway when it comes to discriminating against (even noncriminal) behaviors. If, for example, I was going to join a Pythagorean cult and try to rise in its ranks, I wouldn't stand on my legal right to eat beans and expect to be accommodated, even though I really like eating beans and eating beans isn't illegal. So, I think it should up to the church to decide what behaviors can disqualify one from clergical service.

But as for your initial question, why would a homosexual want to be clergy, I think their motivations are likely similar to hetrosexuals who want to be clergy. As for why they'd want their, uh, lifestyle to be accommadated, that's pretty human, and note that they do occasionally find that accommadation.

Marriage is trickier, since culturally there's a hell of lot more to it than property rights and tax status. Legally, though, it's completely secular and subject not only to legislation but also to court-determined constitutionality. Wadda ya gonna do? Personally, I wouldn't mind seeing the institution include same-sex couples, but I appreciate how radical a change that would be and it feels kind of fucked-up to have that change come from the judicial rather than legislative system. Not that I'm going to complain about it

I thought there were no gays in your neck of the woods?

None in Iran, either, I hear...

 

[Abelian Sea]

No, gays just know this place isn't for them. Nothing here caters to homosexuality and or any kind of sexual perversion. No porn shops, strip clubs, porn videos and prostitutes here.

But... there are men there, right? That's sort of the minimum required...

 

[Bass v 2.0]

But... there are men there, right? That's sort of the minimum required...

what are you implying?