Abstinence 'is not realistic,' Palin's daughter says

[Amanda]

Of course, you realize that if you look in the footnotes of the link you provided that the racial demographics come from a very indirect method because the abortion industry WANTS to portray itself as eradicating poor minorities who shouldn't be breeding anyway.

And, I'm not even exaggerating here.

Can you expand on that?

 

[Andrew2382]

anyone else find it interesting that a 17 year old girls statement would cause a 27 page thread?

 

[catzmeow]

Of course, you realize that if you look in the footnotes of the link you provided that the racial demographics come from a very indirect method because the abortion industry WANTS to portray itself as eradicating poor minorities who shouldn't be breeding anyway.

And, I'm not even exaggerating here.

Can you expand on that?

If you read about the history of Margaret Sanger, her background was in eugenics. She had very strong feelings that some people should be permanently sterilized, and that others (particularly poor minorities) should not be having children.

The goal of opening abortion clinics, particularly in poor areas, was to stop population growth among certain segments of society.

And, even now, when you hear middle class white women talk about abortion, the issue will always come up of how it would be better for some fetuses to be aborted because their mother is poor (and the assumption goes without saying, minority) and probably would be a bad parent anywhere.

it's a very ugly and subtle sort of racism.

 

[elvis]

there are degrees/definitions of abstinence. If abstinence means kissing and nothing else, I don't think it's realistic.

 

[Agnapostate]

anyone else find it interesting that a 17 year old girls statement would cause a 27 page thread?

She's 18, not 17. And no, I don't recognize any remarkable difference between her and anyone else commenting on the matter.

 

[Sky Dancer]

What's interesting to me is why is Amanda's age relevant?

 

[catzmeow]

Both your links proved otherwise.

Wrong. Risk factors for gang membership, on page 4 of the publication I linked above, range from a 3.6 (most significant) to about a 1.2 in terms of impact. Single parent is specifically listed, and rates a 2.4. The risk increases to 3.0 if an additional adult lives with the family who is not related.

That's significant.

IN terms of comparison, parental attitudes that support anti-social behavior rates a 2.3.

So, here are the family risk factors for gang joining:

Family

One parent only 2.4
One parent plus other adults 3.0
Parental attitudes favoring violence 2.3
Low bonding with parents ns‡
Low household income 2.1
Sibling antisocial behavior 1.9
Poor family management 1.7

The numbers besides these factors are significant. What they mean is this:

Youth with one parent only were 2.4 TIMES more likely to join a gang than their peers with two parents. Youth with one parent PLUS other unrelated adults were 3 times more likely to join a gang. We're not talking 20% here, we are talking 200%. That's a huge margin.

If a youth has MORE risk factors, their odds of joining a gang (or engaging in related anti-social activity) increase exponentially:

As figure 5 shows, compared with no-risk youth, low-risk youth were 3 times more likely to join a gang, medium-risk youth were 5 times more likely to join, and highrisk youth were 13 times more likely to join. The more risk factors present in a youth’s life, the higher his or her odds of joining a gang.

The risk factors, by domain (individual, peer, community, school and family) are listed on page 4 of this publication.

I wish you'd read it, it would help you understand this subject better.

http://www.ncjrs.gov/pdffiles1/ojjdp/190106.pdf

 

[Sky Dancer]

Oh brother.

 

[Andrew2382]

anyone else find it interesting that a 17 year old girls statement would cause a 27 page thread?

She's 18, not 17. And no, I don't recognize any remarkable difference between her and anyone else commenting on the matter.

Quite frankly

Who gives a **** what this girl has to say...how empty are peoples lives that it needs a 27 page thread...

want the real life jist of it

Kids will either **** or they won't

end of discussion

Some wait till they are married which is the minoirty and some start fuckin as soon as they can.

move on next topic

 

[catzmeow]

Oh brother.

Yeah, I know. Actual evidence makes your brain hurt, doesn't it, Sky?

 

[Andrew2382]

Though watching sky and catz argue is entairtaining.

All we need is a boxing ring and some ky jelly and we r good to go

 

[Amanda]

What's interesting to me is why is Amanda's age relevant?

I think they were referring to Bristol Palin.

 

[Sky Dancer]

Though watching sky and catz argue is entairtaining.

All we need is a boxing ring and some ky jelly and we r good to go

She's already tried to kidney punch me. LOL. Sorry, I don't wrestle fat girls in flannel PJ's.

 

[catzmeow]

She's already tried to kidney punch me. LOL. Sorry, I don't wrestle fat girls in flannel PJ's.

A few thoughts:

First, if I'd kidney punched you, it wouldn't have been an attempt, and you'd be pissing blood in the hospital ER. So, please stop pretending you've somehow been victimized here (other than the self-victimization you routinely perform by posting like you suffer from permanent brain damage). Nobody has punched anyone, except verbally. And, if you can't handle that, you should get off the computer and take a walk.

Second, the cool thing about the internet is that our WORDS determine whether we look like losers, not our age, clothing, weight, ethnicity, or gender.

I'm sorry that you feel so inadequate to address the topic. It's sad how stupid you are.

Lastly, any time you want to have a photo war, and post photos of yourself, i'll be happy to reciprocate. I guarantee that I am younger, thinner, and more attractve than you, not that this would be difficult.

 

[Sky Dancer]

She's already tried to kidney punch me. LOL. Sorry, I don't wrestle fat girls in flannel PJ's.

Two thoughts:

First, if I'd kidney punched you, it wouldn't have been an attempt, and you'd be pissing blood in the hospital ER. So, please stop pretending you've somehow been victimized here (other than the self-victimization you routinely perform by posting like you suffer from permanent brain damage).

Second, the cool thing about the internet is that our WORDS determine whether we look like losers, not our age, clothing, weight, ethnicity, or gender.

I'm sorry that you feel so inadequate to address the topic. It's sad how stupid you are.

Lastly, any time you want to have a photo war, and post photos of yourself, i'll be happy to reciprocate. I guarantee that I am younger, thinner, and more attractve than you, not that this would be difficult.

Hahahaha

See you in the ring, sister. Believe me I had NO interest in seeing your fat ******* face in flannel PJ's in my pm inbox forwarded to me from one of your fans.

Same fan tells me you removed that photo.

Hahahaha

 

[Andrew2382]

Go for it Catz!

Post those pics


If anything I am an unbiased judge

feel free to PM me photos and I will decide who the winner is.

 

[Sky Dancer]

She removed the fat ones already Andrew. Maybe she'll send you her cheesecake edition.

Frankly, I could give a shit what that ***** looks like. She's mean.

 

[AllieBaba]

So I take it you have nothing intelligent to add to the conversation now.

Not that you ever did.

 

[catzmeow]

The difference between Catz and Sky.

Ten years ago, Catz was fat, and Sky was stupid.

Catz isn't fat anymore, but Sky remains stupid.

And somehow, Sky thinks that poking fun at Catz's non-existent fat makes her look smarter. It's sad.

Catz's legs, circa 2008 (age 42):


Catz w/ kids:

More legs:

 

[Tech_Esq]

I bet Alaska is just as bad as Kansas was for being a boring place to grow up. But seriously if you're going to do it you both need to be taking measures to prevent pregnancy... unless of course you want to have a baby.

She said the choice to get pregnant was hers. So I have to believe she intended to do it.