About Those J6 “People”

[berg80]

They can shit talk a LOT though.

Quite to the contrary, the evidence Epps was simply a misguided trump supporter is irrefutable.

Jan. 6 committee staffer: "Zero evidence that Ray Epps was a federal agent"​

Jan. 6 committee staffer: "Zero evidence that Ray Epps was a federal agent"

Tom Joscelyn told 60 Minutes that Ray Epps became a far-right scapegoat for the attack on the Capitol with cherry-picked evidence.

www.cbsnews.com

The thing is, you need to believe there was something more nefarious going on to sustain your general nutbaggery. So you descend down the rabbit hole of thinking only you conspiracy fools are in possession of the truth while everyone else is lying.

 

[Correll]

Timeline of his case:

• May 2021: The FBI investigated Epps and declined to prosecute, citing insufficient evidence of criminal violations.
• September 2023: Following intense public scrutiny and a "60 Minutes" interview, the Justice Department filed a misdemeanor charge of disorderly or disruptive conduct. Epps formally pleaded guilty the day after he was charged.
• January 2024: Epps was sentenced to one year of probation and 100 hours of community service.

Immersing yourself in fictional accounts of history for your amusement is harmless enough. Just don't expect anyone to be convinced by your easily refuted drivel.

You left out teh context.

ie the context of the fbi arresting EVERYONE, and holding them forever without charges, while they tried to put together cases that their rigged courts could slam though.


Yet, Epps got a pass, for from may 21, to sept 23.

That that looks fine to you, is you being a lying whore.

 

[Political-Junkie]

You can go up and down this thread, adn see me trying to get leftards like yourself to dsicuss how to REDUCE political conflict and violence.

ALL of the leftards, voted for victory without any admission of cost.


That is not ME "craving violence". THat is them CHOOSING violence.


You are a ******* asshole.

It appears to me your attempts to reduce political conflict and violence is by accusing people on the left of things they don't necessarily say and tell them to shut up or face civil war.

 

[Marener]

The leftard will point to how the FBI denies that he is one of theirs.

And that's it. That's the end of it, as far as they are concerned.

The cops say it. And they don't question cops.


Never.

All you point to is that he wasn’t prosecuted for incitement.

You never question whether he actually incited a riot. You don’t question the validity of such a case. Never.

Your argument is extremely weak. So weak, it hardly deserves to be taken seriously. None of it makes any sense.

 

[Correll]

I don’t accept your premise but of course I want less violence rather than more.

Who doesn’t

What point could you only be trying to make

In...over ten years of me asking leftards this quesiton, you are the first to ALMOST just give a clean answer.

WOW.

Ok, very exciting moment for me.

Follow up question, the first time I get to ask this question.

What are you willing to give up, to lessen the conflict and the violence?


Might I suggest, The Race Card?

 

[berg80]

Dude. You are denying recent history.

Actually, I'm not. But if you'd like to embarrass yourself further with more fiction from the right wing lunacy machine I'd be glad to disabuse you of your fantastical beliefs.

 

[Marener]

You left out teh context.

ie the context of the fbi arresting EVERYONE, and holding them forever without charges, while they tried to put together cases that their rigged courts could slam though.


Yet, Epps got a pass, for from may 21, to sept 23.

That that looks fine to you, is you being a lying whore.

The FBI did not “arrest everyone and hold them without charges”.

That’s simply false.

 

[Political-Junkie]

You voted for a guy who told his supporters to "beat the crap" out of people and to "fight like hell" and also pardoned asshooles like yourself who assaulted police officers.

All of these are facts and not in dispute.

MAGA craves violence; you vote for violence. You should know better. You do. And you still voted for it.

Nothing else you say matters...your actions support my statement that you crave violence...

 

[Correll]

You changed the topic. You had been discussing arresting political prisoners because Capitol rioters had been arrested and prosecuted.

Now you’re talking about something else entirely.

Everything you’ve claimed about the prosecution of the rioters at the capitol was fed to you by media. You didn’t live through it.

That makes your experience and understanding of the event particularly prone to bias and false perception.

I'm not sure why you expect me to play along with this retarded game.

My point stands. This is recent history.

When you leftards try to shit talk as though it did not happen,


all it does it tell us, that you are not engaging at all. That discussion with you is pointless.

You might want to watch this.

 

[berg80]

ie the context of the fbi arresting EVERYONE, and holding them forever without charges

Conversing with you on this topic in a reasonable way is going to be impossible if you keep making statements with absolutely no factual backing.

 

[Correll]

Criminals should be locked up regardless of which political side they're on.

I got that you are fine with continuing to CIVIL WAR.

I asked you if you have given ANY thought to the costs, or if it is a good idea.

 

[Correll]

Quite to the contrary, the evidence Epps was simply a misguided trump supporter is irrefutable.

Jan. 6 committee staffer: "Zero evidence that Ray Epps was a federal agent"​

Jan. 6 committee staffer: "Zero evidence that Ray Epps was a federal agent"

Tom Joscelyn told 60 Minutes that Ray Epps became a far-right scapegoat for the attack on the Capitol with cherry-picked evidence.

www.cbsnews.com

The thing is, you need to believe there was something more nefarious going on to sustain your general nutbaggery. So you descend down the rabbit hole of thinking only you conspiracy fools are in possession of the truth while everyone else is lying.

The year of PASS, while they brough the hammer down on everyone else,


if very, very strong evidence he is a fbi agent or asset.

Your denial of this is you being a bad faith actor.

 

[Political-Junkie]

The 1/6 rioters were pardoned becasue of the massive violations of their rights, by your side.

That is not support of violence.

I and maga, would have been fine it our rioters were treated like the other rioters of the period.


You can shit talk all you want. It won't matter.


YOu know anyone who likes to spend time on the front lines? Trying to provoke police or shit like that?

Right, MAGA are the victims.

 

[berg80]

I'm not sure why you expect me to play along with this retarded game.

My point stands. This is recent history.

When you leftards try to shit talk as though it did not happen,


all it does it tell us, that you are not engaging at all. That discussion with you is pointless.

You might want to watch this.

In the months after the January 6, 2021, attack on the Capitol, an Arizona man named Ray Epps became the target of a conspiracy theory that accused him of being a federal agent that incited the riot.

The unfounded accusation began on a right-wing website and seeped into Fox News Chanel's prime time shows. The conspiracy theory was then amplified by elected members of congress including Senator Ted Cruz, R-TX, and Representatives Marjorie Taylor Greene, R-GA, and Matt Gaetz, R-FL.

This week on 60 Minutes, correspondent Bill Whitaker interviewed Ray Epps. Epps is a staunch conservative and former member of the Oath Keepers militia who twice voted for former President Donald Trump. He told 60 Minutes he was forced to sell his house and move into an RV because of threats he began receiving because of the conspiracy theory.

"No matter how many times they push this conspiracy theory, this lie, it'll never become truth," Epps told 60 Minutes. "Truth stands on its own. What I'm telling you is the truth."

 

[Marener]

I'm not sure why you expect me to play along with this retarded game.

My point stands. This is recent history.

When you leftards try to shit talk as though it did not happen,


all it does it tell us, that you are not engaging at all. That discussion with you is pointless.

You might want to watch this.

I’ve been engaging you this whole time, but you’ve been caught consistently saying things that just aren’t true.

When called out on it, you ignore it and change the subject.

Now you’re refusing to address anyone else’s point, instead demanding that we adhere to your false reality and threaten violence if we don’t.

There are a lot of liars on the internet and it’s human to want to believe some of these lies if it’s more comfortable than confronting the truth.

 

[berg80]

The year of PASS, while they brough the hammer down on everyone else,


if very, very strong evidence he is a fbi agent or asset.

There is no evidence he was an FBI asset. If there is, please provide it.

 

[Correll]

It appears to me your attempts to reduce political conflict and violence is by accusing people on the left of things they don't necessarily say and tell them to shut up or face civil war.

My goal has been to get them to TALK, about their beliefs and what they want.

YOu are full of shit.

 

[Correll]

The FBI did not “arrest everyone and hold them without charges”.

That’s simply false.

SUre they did. For months, even longer in some cases.

 

[berg80]

SUre they did. For months, even longer in some cases.

Prove it.

 

[Correll]

....

The unfounded accusation ..."

The case for the accusation is clear. to call it unfounded, shows the writer to be a dishonest whore adn asshole.