About Those J6 “People”

Just admit it. The fbi had assets on hand, and they were inciting violence.
so Trump's FBI had assets on hand, and they were inciting violence? What is your evidence for that?

FBI director Christopher Wray, who was appointed by Trump and is a Republican said the following:
"I will say this notion that somehow the violence at the Capitol on January 6 was part of some operation orchestrated by FBI sources and agents is ludicrous and is a disservice to our brave, hardworking dedicated men and women"

You go to such a lengths to accept things as proof without any evidence, actually, even when the evidence goes against what you believe, but then when it comes to Trump's attempt to overturn the election through illegal means, you don't believe anything?

We have to somehow believe that not only was Trump's own FBI not in control of what is going on, but some hidden leftists are actually controlling it, despite the fact that they haven't been able to find any proof that leftists within the FBI were instructing informants to incite violence? And we have to believe that Trump appointee and Republican FBI director Wray, is what? Lying? Is he a RINO? And they were inciting violence so that the transfer of power from Trump to Biden would be delayed? Something that Trump himself was wanting and actively working towards? And inciting violence that would put democratic members of congress lives in danger? Seems like a strange thing for the leftists to be trying to do.

Meanwhile, we have a treasure trove of evidence, often coming from Trump appointees, Republicans, and Trump's own allies, including former VP Mike Pence himself, that Trump was trying to overturn the election through lies and illegal means.

I don't know how you can think that you have enough evidence to believe that leftists were using FBI informants to incite violence at January 6th (for what purpose even?), but that the evidence we have for Trump and co attacking Democracy itself is not meeting the level of evidence you accept? Do you understand how crazy that is? If you don't believe that Trump assaulted democracy then you cannot even begin to believe that leftists are secretly controlling the FBI, undetected, and were able to leave no paper trail, and that they, for some reason, wanted to incite a riot on January 6th.
 
I honestly can't explain how you read my words and think I said that?

I never said Trump called for anyone to go into Capitol. He told people to go to the Capitol, not into it. I said his words incited the violence that erupted.

But if you need to twist my words into something I didn't say so you can feel like you won a debate, more power to ya.

Don't try to walk it back now, weasel man.

You're stone cold busted, based on your own words.


We are past teh shit talking portion of the discussion.


What percentage of the population do you imagine your side killing to achieve your assumed victory in the civil war that you clearly want?
 
People really have no obligation to take you at your word and expecting they do so is a very entitled mentality.

Buddy. I'm not the shit talker here, you leftards are.

Your constant and...soulless stonewalling on these issues, as political violence increases,

shows that your are fine with the path towards CIVIL WAR.


Discussing that, and the implications for the site's members is completely valid.

When you imagine your final victory, what percentage of the US population do you imagine being killed?
 
Buddy. I'm not the shit talker here, you leftards are.

Your constant and...soulless stonewalling on these issues, as political violence increases,

shows that your are fine with the path towards CIVIL WAR.


Discussing that, and the implications for the site's members is completely valid.

When you imagine your final victory, what percentage of the US population do you imagine being killed?
You’re the only one talking about a civil war which is a really unhinged thing to say. I think you’re getting really wound up over a prevention that is not reality.

When you talk about stonewalling, aren’t you the one stonewalling anyone who asks for substantiation of your claims?

I think you need to seriously consider that your beliefs about what happened may not be true.
 
so Trump's FBI had assets on hand, and they were inciting violence? What is your evidence for that?

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Dude. This is page 37 of this thread. We have had a long discussion on the subject, and I have dragged some good answers out of a bunch of evasive and dishonest leftard assholes.


And the obvious conclusion from their positions and evasions, is that they can see that we are on a path towards civil war, and they are fully in support of that.


The question now is, what percentage of hte US population they envision being killed before their final, lefty victory.


If you want to start this over, go start your own thread.


Or you can give your vision on what percentage of the population YOU want to see dead, so that you lefties can have your way with the country.
 
You’re the only one talking about a civil war which is a really unhinged thing to say. I think you’re getting really wound up over a prevention that is not reality.

When political violence is INCREASING, and your answer to any questions about "do you want to increase or decrease the violence" is something along the lines of "I want to use this to destroy my political enemies and **** you for even asking",

it is clear that you are on the path of escalation and not willing to stop till you win and see your enemies dead, or it blows up in your face.


I am just addressing that. It would be stupid to pretend that is not what you guys are doing.


When you talk about stonewalling, aren’t you the one stonewalling anyone who asks for substantiation of your claims?

Dude. **** THAT SHIT. WE LIVED THOUGH IT.

Your shit talk matters for nothing. Futher generations will be going though records like this and wondering how people like you thought that such stupid shit talk mattered, considering what you were pushing towards.

I think you need to seriously consider that your beliefs about what happened may not be true.

I think you need to seriously consider what happens, when you keep insisting on escalation, while people are already dying in the streets.
 
Dude. This is page 37 of this thread. We have had a long discussion on the subject, and I have dragged some good answers out of a bunch of evasive and dishonest leftard assholes.


And the obvious conclusion from their positions and evasions, is that they can see that we are on a path towards civil war, and they are fully in support of that.


The question now is, what percentage of hte US population they envision being killed before their final, lefty victory.


If you want to start this over, go start your own thread.


Or you can give your vision on what percentage of the population YOU want to see dead, so that you lefties can have your way with the country.
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Why is wanting to hold Trump accountable for his attack on Democracy considered something that more and more Republicans would translate to more violence? Why do none of you Republicans care about the terrible precedents that Trump has set in his attempt to steal an election?
 
That's shit talk, especially considering that you admitted that, in your own mind, TRUMP saying those words, was "inciting violence".

So, I ask again,...no, it fine, it is clear.

You are going to keep escalating, until it blows up in your face, or all your enemies are in camps or dead.

So, let's do it.


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How can you deny his words incited violence? There were people saying they wanted to cut politicians' heads off if Pence didn't reject electors from some states Trump lost. Others were saying "hang Mike Pence."

That came after Trump spent an hour convincing them that Mike Pence could not count electors from states Trump didn't want counted so that Trump and Pence could remain in office. It's clear Trump incited violence. We all saw it happen. We all saw him tell that crowd they were robbed with a stolen election. We all saw him tell that crowd to fight like hell if you don't want to lose your country. We all saw him tell that crowd to go to the Capitol. And we all saw some in that crowd commit acts of violence at the Capitol. Fortunately it was relatively small number of people who did, but there's no question some did.
 
We are past the shit talking phase of the discussion.

Your position is clear. You are ready for more violence and assume that your side will win.


And you are happy to see your enemies die, or as political prisoners.
Truly bizarre how you keep reading into my words things I never said. The right is not my enemy. I don't want them killed or taken as political prisoners. I'm not looking for violence but if there is violence, we all lose.
 
That's just it, Trump was aware of what could or might happen due to the actually protest and what it would be about. The protesters weren't their to protest a change in legislation or a bill they didn't like, and that's why Trump had to tell the protesters to go and let your voices be heard, but to do so peacefully. It's why he called for the NG to be deployed incase emotions began to run high.

Then you had people like Rap Epps in there stirring the BS up that caused possibly the riot that took place.
How did Epps incite a riot? I'm assuming you heard the reaction from the few people around him? They were rejecting him, not cheering him on. Some even thought he was a "fed" looking to entrap them. Others just yelled "no."
 
Don't try to walk it back now, weasel man.

You're stone cold busted, based on your own words.


We are past teh shit talking portion of the discussion.


What percentage of the population do you imagine your side killing to achieve your assumed victory in the civil war that you clearly want?
I'm not walking anything back. You're literally making up my positions. Quote me saying Trump told people to go into the Capitol. You won't be able to because I never said that. I never said I want civil war. In fact, I said I don't want violence. I never said I assumed victory if there is civil war. I said if there is then we all lose.

How can I get you to debate with what I'm actually saying?
 
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