About Those J6 “People”

The point is you're saying Epps was treated differently than her and the Q Shaman guy, which he was. But you're using that difference as evidence that he was treated differently because he was affiliated with the government, when in fact, they were treated differently because their crimes were different.

Q Shaman guy was convicted on Civil Disorder; Obstruction of an Official Proceeding; Entering and Remaining in a Restricted Building; Disorderly and Disruptive Conduct in a Restricted Building or Grounds; Violent Entry and Disorderly Conduct on in a Capitol Building; Parading, Demonstrating, or Picketing in a Capitol Building.

"Grandma" was convicted on Entering and Remaining in a Restricted Building or Grounds; Disorderly and Disruptive Conduct in a Restricted Building or Grounds; Disorderly Conduct in a Capitol Building; Parading, Demonstrating, or Picketing in a Capitol Building. (Not charged with assault as you claimed)

While Epps was only convicted on Disorderly or Disruptive Conduct in a Restricted Building or Grounds.

They went inside the Capitol, Epps didn't. That's the difference. Almost nobody, though Epps was one, was charged with a crime unless the went into the Capitol or assaulted LEO's.


False.

Ray was giving a PASS, until after a YEAR of conservatives ridiculting the ******* SHIT out of the fbi for not arresting him.

Also, you have admitted in your last post, that you consider "telling people to go into the capitol" is "inciting violence".

So...you are disagreeing with yourself. Becasue your position makes no sense.


Just admit it. The fbi had assets on hand, and they were inciting violence.


How do you want to move forward?

Do you want to deal with this in a way to heal our wounds,

or do you want to use this as a weapon against your enemies, even if it escalates the political conflict, and leads to a civil war?
 
Look what you did there.

Your words, "TRUMP TOLD PEOPLE TO GO TO THE CAPITOL.... IS THAT NOT INCITING VIOLENCE".

That was not really a question. That was you asserting that it was. Please don't be a complete craven and try to weasel out of that.

Yet, Ray Epps did the same thing, and you are giving him a pass. The FBI, gave him a pass. ALL you lefties give him a pass...


The evidence is pretty compelling. There were fbi assets on hand, and they were inciting.
It is amazing how easily people are manipulated.

I actually thought the information age would make people MORE INFORMED. Anything ever written or said it available to me in seconds through this tablet I am typing this on….in seconds.

One can research anything.

However, the use of social media to brainwash and capture minds is wild.

For example. The commies on TV kept saying ivermectin is “HORSE DEWORMER”. Anyone could look up “IVERMECTIN” and see it is a NOBEL PRIZE WINNING ANTIPARASITE ….Approved for human use in 1987.

It has been prescribed to humans BILLIONS OF TIMES.

When it is characterized as “HORSE DEWORMER”, there is an OBVIOUS agenda.

The agenda was for Pharma to get liability protection for the Trump shot via the EMERGENCY USE AUTHORIZATION ACT.

So many of you are sheep. Why?
 
So, was that charge dropped to get a plea deal? You know, standard stormtrooper terrorizing people into confession?
No. She was never charged with assault at all because the facts did not justify such a charge.
 
It is amazing how easily people are manipulated.

I actually thought the information age would make people MORE INFORMED. Anything ever written or said it available to me in seconds through this tablet I am typing this on….in seconds.

One can research anything.

However, the use of social media to brainwash and capture minds is wild.

For example. The commies on TV kept saying ivermectin is “HORSE DEWORMER”. Anyone could look up “IVERMECTIN” and see it is a NOBEL PRIZE WINNING ANTIPARASITE ….Approved for human use in 1987.

It has been prescribed to humans BILLIONS OF TIMES.

When it is characterized as “HORSE DEWORMER”, there is an OBVIOUS agenda.

The agenda was for Pharma to get liability protection for the Trump shot via the EMERGENCY USE AUTHORIZATION ACT.

So many of you are sheep. Why?

Here teh lefty is holding two contradictory positions, that telling people to go into the capitol is inciting violence, and that telling people to go into the capitol is not inciting violence.
 
No. She was never charged with assault at all because the facts did not justify such a charge.

NOt sure what you want here. I didn't save teh article when I read of hte grandmother being charged with assaulting the police officer...

So....
 
To me, and all of maga, and really, more adn more regular republicans,

that translates to MORE VIOLENCE.


Are you prepared for that?
I don't think your threats of violence should stand in the way of the pursuit of justice. However, they should be met with the appropriate amount of force. For instance, if I had been in charge of the Capital police on J/6 I would have instructed the officers to shoot any member of trump's mob who physically attacked them.
 
I don't think your threats of violence should stand in the way of the pursuit of justice. However, they should be met with the appropriate amount of force. For instance, if I had been in charge of the Capital police on J/6 I would have instructed the officers to shoot any member of trump's mob who physically attacked them.

I'm not trying to threaten you, you ******* retarded asshole.

I'm telling you that when you talk like that, or like that above,

it is sending a message that you want to keep escalating the political conflict between us.


Are you prepared for us HEARING YOUR WORDS and REACTING APPROPRIATELY?


Have you really considered the price of this path, or the consequences?
 
NOt sure what you want here. I didn't save teh article when I read of hte grandmother being charged with assaulting the police officer...

So....
I would like you to make arguments based on verifiable facts.

I don’t think that’s asking too much.
 
I'm not trying to threaten you, you ******* retarded asshole.

I'm telling you that when you talk like that, or like that above,

it is sending a message that you want to keep escalating the political conflict between us.


Are you prepared for us HEARING YOUR WORDS and REACTING APPROPRIATELY?


Have you really considered the price of this path, or the consequences?
You're suggesting the appropriate response to holding trumples responsible for their crimes is to expect more violence from The Following. If that's the case then bring it. The country can't be held hostage to trump's mob. But I imagine they will be more circumspect if a few get shot in the face next time they attack a police officer. Perhaps you are the one who should be considering the consequences of your actions.

Although I assume you are emboldened by realizing you can beat up a cop and fully expect trump will pardon you for it as long as you are acting in his name. Which is why it's important for trumples to know attacking police in the future will result in being dead.
 
I would like you to make arguments based on verifiable facts.

I don’t think that’s asking too much.

No, you want me to pretend that something that happened, that was reported in the news, that I discussed with leftards at the time, that leftards at teh time defended,

didn't happen, because it is buried in the amount of data from the 1/6 investigations/


That's...just ******* retarded.



This discussion, the way that your side is defending the feds, and especially the example of Ray Epps,


is your side defending POLITICAL ARRESTS and POLITITICAL PRISONERS.


That's a big problem for this country. We can't have POLITICAL PRISONERS, as part of the new normal moving forward.


We on the right will not accept that.


Do you want a civil war?
 
No, you want me to pretend that something that happened, that was reported in the news, that I discussed with leftards at the time, that leftards at teh time defended,

didn't happen, because it is buried in the amount of data from the 1/6 investigations/


That's...just ******* retarded.



This discussion, the way that your side is defending the feds, and especially the example of Ray Epps,


is your side defending POLITICAL ARRESTS and POLITITICAL PRISONERS.


That's a big problem for this country. We can't have POLITICAL PRISONERS, as part of the new normal moving forward.


We on the right will not accept that.


Do you want a civil war?
I don’t have any reason to take you at your word. If it happened, you’d be able to find a record of it. You could be misremembering. You could have believed someone else who lied about it.

Don’t you want to know that what you say is true?
 
Do you want a civil war?
There you go with the threats again. You seem to believe trumples should be able to get away with criminal actions because civil war will break out if they are punished for breaking the law.

I suppose that's understandable since trump has escaped accountability for his most egregious crimes thus far. But not everyone can manipulate the system and use lawfare like he has.
 
So, was that charge dropped to get a plea deal? You know, standard stormtrooper terrorizing people into confession?
Regardless

She served ZERO jail time. You lied
 
No, you want me to pretend that something that happened, that was reported in the news, that I discussed with leftards at the time, that leftards at teh time defended,

didn't happen, because it is buried in the amount of data from the 1/6 investigations/


That's...just ******* retarded.



This discussion, the way that your side is defending the feds, and especially the example of Ray Epps,


is your side defending POLITICAL ARRESTS and POLITITICAL PRISONERS.


That's a big problem for this country. We can't have POLITICAL PRISONERS, as part of the new normal moving forward.


We on the right will not accept that.


Do you want a civil war?

That is exactly what these brainwashed fools want.

They lie about everything.

Look at COVID and look at Joe Biden’s cognition.

These aholes would not know the truth if it performed BOTTOM SURGERY ON THEM.
 
Just admit it. The fbi had assets on hand, and they were inciting violence.
That is an unfounded conspiracy theory. I find it entirely unsurprising that you believe it since it is essential to your perverted view of the events that unfolded on J/6.
 
That is an unfounded conspiracy theory. I find it entirely unsurprising that you believe it since it is essential to your perverted view of the events that unfolded on J/6.
J6 ... oh ... you mean the most over covered, overhyped, overrated event in American history?
That J6?
 
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I don’t have any reason to take you at your word. If it happened, you’d be able to find a record of it. You could be misremembering. You could have believed someone else who lied about it.

Don’t you want to know that what you say is true?

You are looking for an excuse to dismiss my words and my point.

And what a shocker, you found one.

Now **** off. Get back to me when you are ready to be serious.
 
You are looking for an excuse to dismiss my words and my point.

And what a shocker, you found one.

Now **** off. Get back to me when you are ready to be serious.
Your point can and should only be considered valid if it is based on reality.

That’s what I’m trying to determine.

A serious person would substantiate their assertion.

Otherwise anyone can say anything and demand people accept it as truth and that’s not a debate. That’s dogma.
 
Look what you did there.

Your words, "TRUMP TOLD PEOPLE TO GO TO THE CAPITOL.... IS THAT NOT INCITING VIOLENCE".

That was not really a question. That was you asserting that it was. Please don't be a complete craven and try to weasel out of that.

Yet, Ray Epps did the same thing, and you are giving him a pass. The FBI, gave him a pass. ALL you lefties give him a pass...


The evidence is pretty compelling. There were fbi assets on hand, and they were inciting.
Sorry, you don't get turn my question into a statement just to avoid answering it. I told they both did the same thing. You said Epps incited violence. That means your logic dictates Trump incited violence.

About those FBI assets, only 3 were sent there by the FBI and only 1 went inside the Capitol. I don't see how 3 people incited that riot. Especially given since there's evidence Trump incited people to storm the Capitol.

 
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