northpolarbear
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I couldn't get any debate from some other forum (no one responding), so re-posting here.
About rightful racism as opposed to hating a race just because of racial differences.
First of all, I don't consider this racism. Second of all, whether this is called racism or not (you grouping it with the racism of hating a race just because of being a different race is an equivocation; they are still different), it is right (rightful & moral). Third of all, it is legal anyway; the laws do not force you in these.
I want to talk about the different forms of racism. I don't consider this racism, but let's just call this "many different forms of racism" for now. It is a rightful racism.
It is within my right to not date an Asian because of the unique unfavorable facial traits (see my photo if you want to bullshit this as racism; "that" is the point I want to make) which "happen to apply" in the unit of race. In the reality, you just want to date pretty faces "regardless of the race". You just don't want to date ugly faces "regardless of race". Some types of "ugly faces" (let's not get into what ugly is as such is just deterrence & henpecking) just happen to belong in the unit of race. You are not hating that racial face just because of it is a different face; you hate it because it is ugly; it is just that the ugly face happens to be in the unit of race when it might as well be in the unit of "the family next door" or "the town over there". Another example & point I want to make is about hating a country. If a country did something wrong to you, you can hate it rightfully. You are not hating it just because it is a different country. You are hating it because it did something wrong; it is just that the culprits just happen to be in the unit of country when it can just as well be in the unit of a town within your own country or a giant corporation. The same logic goes for the unit of an ethnicity, race or whatever in terms of hating it because "you did something wrong", not because you are a different group.
The idea is that whether something is rightful or not is dependent only on the action itself regardless of the unit. If something is rightful on some other unit, then it should be rightful in the unit of race as well. As for being rightful on some other unit, it is entitled morally & rightfully (there's nothing wrong with it aside from being your rightful, natural, valid, consequential, logical response), not just legally (it is your legal right as well). Hence, even when the unit happens to become in the unit of race, it is still rightful because the action itself is a rightful action. That's the logic.
About rightful racism as opposed to hating a race just because of racial differences.
First of all, I don't consider this racism. Second of all, whether this is called racism or not (you grouping it with the racism of hating a race just because of being a different race is an equivocation; they are still different), it is right (rightful & moral). Third of all, it is legal anyway; the laws do not force you in these.
I want to talk about the different forms of racism. I don't consider this racism, but let's just call this "many different forms of racism" for now. It is a rightful racism.
It is within my right to not date an Asian because of the unique unfavorable facial traits (see my photo if you want to bullshit this as racism; "that" is the point I want to make) which "happen to apply" in the unit of race. In the reality, you just want to date pretty faces "regardless of the race". You just don't want to date ugly faces "regardless of race". Some types of "ugly faces" (let's not get into what ugly is as such is just deterrence & henpecking) just happen to belong in the unit of race. You are not hating that racial face just because of it is a different face; you hate it because it is ugly; it is just that the ugly face happens to be in the unit of race when it might as well be in the unit of "the family next door" or "the town over there". Another example & point I want to make is about hating a country. If a country did something wrong to you, you can hate it rightfully. You are not hating it just because it is a different country. You are hating it because it did something wrong; it is just that the culprits just happen to be in the unit of country when it can just as well be in the unit of a town within your own country or a giant corporation. The same logic goes for the unit of an ethnicity, race or whatever in terms of hating it because "you did something wrong", not because you are a different group.
The idea is that whether something is rightful or not is dependent only on the action itself regardless of the unit. If something is rightful on some other unit, then it should be rightful in the unit of race as well. As for being rightful on some other unit, it is entitled morally & rightfully (there's nothing wrong with it aside from being your rightful, natural, valid, consequential, logical response), not just legally (it is your legal right as well). Hence, even when the unit happens to become in the unit of race, it is still rightful because the action itself is a rightful action. That's the logic.