Abortion decriminalised in the UK

tissue not "baby"
An embryo, fetus, it is an unborn baby, that is just a fact, you can try to minimize the life of an unborn baby but science doesn’t agree. Maybe liberals can pay the scientific community to change definitions, you can always hope for that.
 
An embryo, fetus, it is an unborn baby, that is just a fact, you can try to minimize the life of an unborn baby but science doesn’t agree.

Not really. In the original Hyppocratic oath, a doctor is totally forbidden to do anything to kill an unborn life.

It always takes extreme deceptions and contortions of human thought to talk as stupidly as the advocates of abortion do. They simply don't want to tackle and solve the problems that lead to abortions. Specially they want to make - indeed somehow they did make - abortion to a kind of human right - but this is not a way how philosophers and scientists are able to think if they take themselves serios. To kill human beings is not able to be a [god given] natural human right.

By the way, abortion is merely a medical procedure and there is indeed a reason to perform abortions: If the life of the mother is in danger, the obligation of self-defense applies and when weighing the life of the mother or the life of the child, the life of the mother must be saved for medical reasons in order to take the least risk. Without mother it's under natural conditions nearly impossible to save her child. Nevertheless sometimes a pregnant mother decides in the opposite to die and to do everthing that her unborn child is able to survive. But this are in any case very difficult decisions which we all are only able to make to the best of our knowledge and belief. We are not perfect - we are not allmighty - and the world is also a dangerous place with many risks.

Maybe liberals can pay the scientific community to change definitions, you can always hope for that.

I don't know what you understand when you use the word "liberal". But freedom is not the problem. Intentional blindness is the problem. Example: I am convinced the main reason for abortions are men - even parents or other human beings like friends are able to be a reason for abortion. It is said "It takes a whole village to raise a child." - but many have the feeling to be alone in our world and the responsibility for their children seems to be a burden for them they are not able to carry.

Take the father of Heinrich Himmler as an example. He said in public "My son is a criminal" and warned in this way everyone. But indeed his son became the head of all policeman and the SS under Adolf Hitler. A main factor for the Holocaust. His son became a murderer of millions of people. And what say the people about the father of Heinrich Himmler? They say "He made him to a criminal by saying he was a criminal". So what expect this people to do from a father who thinks his own son is a criminal? To say nothing so no one knows? I guess we all are hypocrits in many ways. Otherwise it would not be possible that Putin steals the children of Russian mothers and sacrifices them on the altar of his vanity by trying to make them on the other side to murderers of the own human sisters and brothers.



Born young human, this is your planet
Here is your destination, little package
Friendly bundle, welcome in -
May life be good to you here!

So there you are, finally ready in your cradle
You're still fresh and new, and I'm sneaking up to you
with great self-control
I'm just overcoming my curiosity to get you out of there
To have a closer look at you -
So I'm content to stand around a little embarrassed
in front of your cradle on your first day
and imagine what your life might bring!

...

May you experience all that is worth experiencing and all that is important in life
May there still be meadows and trees and cockchafers
When you are of cockchafer-collecting age
May there always be nails, marbles, string, braid,
Paste, sherbet, crayons and flint
Screwdrivers, insulating tape, plasticine and liquorice
Plenty in your pockets!

...

And one day the day will come when I'll be sitting anxiously
Perplexed by the schoolwork you've been given
I won't be able to work out your math problems!
For the essay I wrote for you
If you're very lucky, you won't get a detention
But as compensation, I'll build kites with you
, paint pictures and fly biplanes
And show you how to use a blowtorch and piano!

...

A few years later, after many a bloody nose
After countless plasters over cracked knees
After broken windows, smashed vases
Failed educational theories
After recognizing the ineffectiveness of strict pointing fingers
We'll do all sorts of nonsense together
Every gross mischief, and then we'll do all the things
That I have to strictly forbid you until then!

...

May you succeed in much of what you set out to do -
Be satisfied when you succeed, and without arrogance!
Try to advance your world a little bit
Be good to your human brothers as best you can!
Well, then I wish you that I become a good father
That you find friends who love you and that you
enjoy the great adventure on earth -
"Break a leg", something is coming your way!

Born young human, this is your planet
Here is your destination, little package
Friendly bundle, welcome in -
May life be good to you here!
 
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If a pregnant Woman is driving to Hospital to get an Abortion and she gets in a Car Accident and the Baby pops out and is on the floorboard of the Car crying then it was far too late for her to get an Abortion .
 
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Not really. In the original Hyppocratic oath, a doctor is totally forbidden to do anything to kill an unborn life.

It always takes extreme deceptions and contortions of human thought to talk as stupidly as the advocates of abortion do. They simply don't want to tackle and solve the problems that lead to abortions. Specially they want to make - indeed somehow they did make - abortion to a kind of human right - but this is not a way how philosophers and scientists are able to think if they take themselves serios. To kill human beings is not able to be a [god given] natural human right.

By the way, abortion is merely a medical procedure and there is indeed a reason to perform abortions: If the life of the mother is in danger, the obligation of self-defense applies and when weighing the life of the mother or the life of the child, the life of the mother must be saved for medical reasons in order to take the least risk. Without mother it's under natural conditions nearly impossible to save her child. Nevertheless sometimes a pregnant mother decides in the opposite to die and to do everthing that her unborn child is able to survive. But this are in any case very difficult decisions which we all are only able to make to the best of our knowledge and belief. We are not perfect - we are not allmighty - and the world is also a dangerous place with many risks.



I don't know what you understand when you use the word "liberlal". But freedom is not the problem. Intentional blindness is the problem. Example: I am convinced the main reason for abortions are men - even parents or other human beings like friends are able to be a reason for abortion. It is said "It takes a whole village to raise a child." - but many have the feeling to be alone in our world and the responsibility for their children seems to be a burden for them they are not able to carry.

Take the father of Heinrich Himmler as an example. He said in public "My son is a criminal" and warned in this way everyone. But indeed his son became the head of all policeman and the SS under Adolf Hitler. A main factor for the Holocaust. His son became a murderer of millions of people. And what say the people about the father of Heinrich Himmler? They say "He made him to a criminal by saying he was a criminal". So what expect this people to do from a father who thinks his own son is a criminal? To say nothing so no one knows? I guess we all are hypocrits in many ways. Otherwise it would not be possible that Putin steals the children of Russian mothers and sacrifices them on the altar of his vanity by trying to make them on the other side to murderers of the own human sisters and brothers.



Born young human, this is your planet
Here is your destination, little package
Friendly bundle, welcome in -
May life be good to you here!

So there you are, finally ready in your cradle
You're still fresh and new, and I'm sneaking up to you
with great self-control
I'm just overcoming my curiosity to get you out of there
To have a closer look at you -
So I'm content to stand around a little embarrassed
in front of your cradle on your first day
and imagine what your life might bring!

...

May you experience all that is worth experiencing and all that is important in life
May there still be meadows and trees and cockchafers
When you are of cockchafer-collecting age
May there always be nails, marbles, string, braid,
Paste, sherbet, crayons and flint
Screwdrivers, insulating tape, plasticine and liquorice
Plenty in your pockets!

...

And one day the day will come when I'll be sitting anxiously
Perplexed by the schoolwork you've been given
I won't be able to work out your math problems!
For the essay I wrote for you
If you're very lucky, you won't get a detention
But as compensation, I'll build kites with you
, paint pictures and fly biplanes
And show you how to use a blowtorch and piano!

...

A few years later, after many a bloody nose
After countless plasters over cracked knees
After broken windows, smashed vases
Failed educational theories
After recognizing the ineffectiveness of strict pointing fingers
We'll do all sorts of nonsense together
Every gross mischief, and then we'll do all the things
That I have to strictly forbid you until then!

...

May you succeed in much of what you set out to do -
Be satisfied when you succeed, and without arrogance!
Try to advance your world a little bit
Be good to your human brothers as best you can!
Well, then I wish you that I become a good father
That you find friends who love you and that you
enjoy the great adventure on earth -
"Break a leg", something is coming your way!

Born young human, this is your planet
Here is your destination, little package
Friendly bundle, welcome in -
May life be good to you here!

Born young human, this is your planet
Here is your destination, little package
Friendly bundle, welcome in -
May life be good to you here!

You are free to kill unborn babies, not saying you can’t.
 
You are free to kill unborn babies, not saying you can’t.

Eh? No one is free to do so. Who kills an innocent human being is a murderer. Our problem is that some people "define" human beings are not human beings. We all are descendents of Cain - the murderer of his brother. And what the most people - or even all people - do not understand is why god made a sign to Cain so that no one would punish him for his murderous deed. The Nazis made it by the way in the opposite: they made a sign on the people - their sisters and brothers - who they murdered in masses. And this was seen as normal from them as today abortion is seen to be normal. But it isn't. With every abortion dies a human being. The Nazi god deniers were by the way also for abortions - abortions of their enemies.
 
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Eh? No one is free to do so. Who kills an innocent human being is a murderer.
That is all abortion is, but I can’t control others and I do not try, I just base my opinion on my beliefs and killing an unborn baby is morally wrong but that is just my opinion.
 
That is all abortion is, but I can’t control others and I do not try, I just base my opinion on my beliefs and killing an unborn baby is morally wrong but that is just my opinion.
One out of ever 200 Babies aborted in the UK & Ireland is to Islamist Parents
 
That is all abortion is, but I can’t control others and I do not try, I just base my opinion on my beliefs and killing an unborn baby is morally wrong but that is just my opinion.

Your are a good example for a very bad thinker. I hate by the way moral. Reason are moralists without moral. And your opinions and beliefs seem to be just a game of dice. Did ever take anyone serios this what you call here "opinion"? Would it be a problem if someone would had aborted you? No? Then why do you live at all? By mistake? Sorry - but I can't imagine that I survived the Nazis in order to live on as a mistake.
 
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Parliament just decriminalised abortion in the UK. Women cant be jailed for habing an abortion under any circumstances.

This is probably a reaction to the crazy going on in magaland.

I didnt realise this was still a thing until some poor woman was arrested a few years ago.

Its a great day and for once the nutters lost.


Nine months...
What a bunch of ******* ghouls
 
Your are a good example for a very bad thinker. I hate by the way moral. Reason are moralists without moral. And your opinions and beliefs seem to be just a game of dice. Did ever take anyone serios this what you call here "opinion"? Would it be a problem if someone would had aborted you? No? Then why do you live at all? By mistake? Sorry - but I can't imagine that I survived the Nazis in order to live on as a mistake.
Why are you so triggered by my opinion? I am not triggered by any of your opinions, do you not think that people are allowed opinions? Should all opinions agree? I don’t believe in killing unborn babies and you do. What is wrong with that?
 
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Why are you so triggered by my opinion?

You have an opinion?

I am not triggered by any of your opinions,

So you agree to say "abortion is murder" and "to accept abortion means to damage the existence of human rights"?

do you not think that people are allowed opinions?

Is your opinion "murder and human rights are no problem" and that's why you 'think' I am a criminal because I never will accept murder and the destruction of the human rights?

Should all opinions agree?

You are stupid. Extremely stupid. My opinion. Reason for: Laws have to be consistent and laws have to protect all human beings independent from their age. Infanticides are reality - femicides are reality - but "male"-icides are not reality. Men kill babies - men kill women - and in case of abortion intrigant men give women the freedom to let kill their unborn babies. I guess men are the most intrigant and most dishonarable species on our planet. The main reason for abortions are men.

I don’t believe in killing unborn babies and you do.

You don't "believe" in what? And in what do I "believe"?

What is wrong with that?

Everything. Death is not a joke but an irreversible reality. A killed person will not come back - but if so this is a neverending nightmare.
 
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You have an opinion?



So you agree to say "abortion is murder" and "to accept abortion means to damage the existence of human rights"



Is your opinion "murder and human rights are no problem" and that's why you 'think' I am a criminal because I never will accept murder and the destruction of the human rights?



You are stupid. Extremely stupid. My opinion.



You don't "believe" in what?



Everything.
Okay, since you don’t care about my opinion, we are done, you shouldn’t have wasted you time on me if you didn’t value my opinion in the first place. That was really stupid and dumb on your part.
 

Not okay. Nothing is okay in case of abortion.

since you don’t care about my opinion, we are done,

Coward.

you shouldn’t have wasted you time on me if you didn’t value my opinion in the first place. That was really stupid and dumb on your part.

I never met an intrigant woman in my life - but I met many intrigant men in my life. By the way: My wife does not agree with this "opinion". She met intrigant women in her life.
 
Not okay. Nothing is okay in case of abortion.



Coward.



I never met an intrigant woman in my life - but I met many intrigant men in my life. By the way: My wife does not agree with this "opinion". She met intrigant women in her life.
Calling me a coward? You are now just trolling. You said you don’t give a shit about my opinion, so what do we need to talk about? Any opinion I give you will name call, insult and think you are superior. Isn’t that correct because it is all you have done so far.
 
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