The OP opens this thread as if democrats give a fuck about women.
Horseshit.
The only thing democrats give a fuck about is controlling women.
Horseshit.
The only thing democrats give a fuck about is controlling women.
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How so? Like supporting their right to abort? Or fighting for equal pay?The OP opens this thread as if democrats give a fuck about women.
Horseshit.
The only thing democrats give a fuck about is controlling women.
No one has their head in the sand.No one has their head in the sand. I am well aware that we are in conflict with radical Islam. However, that doesn't mean that we punish all Muslims for the actions of their radicals. Should we vet Muslims coming into this country to insure that they are not radicals? Sure. And we do. But to just issue a blanket ban on all Muslims does nothing but piss of the Muslims that aren't radicals, feed the narrative of the radicals that "The Devil West' hates all Muslims, and makes it easier for the radicals to recruit more Muslims to their cause.
So, sure. Let's just ban all Muslims, and make it easier for the radicals to swell their ranks.
There is no open door and nobody is supporting an open door... That is a lie. Everybody gets screened... I don't think anybody is opposing making the screening process as efficient as possible.
So, you also want to reinstate the interment camps? Because, you know...that worked out so well the last time...I have no problem with what she said. People who side with rapist immigrants are traitors.
So, fuck the Constitution, fuck our American values. Let's just ban an entire people based on nothing but their beliefs. Because...yay `Murica!!!! Thanks for demonstrating that this "Exteme Vetting" bullshit is nothing more than a smoke screen to justify Trump's Muslim Ban.So...you don't trust the State Department, the UN, or, apparently, Homeland Security. So, just who do you think should be doing the vetting?
No need to vet them... don't allow them here. Period. End of problem.
What a Dumass. How about freedom, liberty, and property rights - for starters.How so? Like supporting their right to abort? Or fighting for equal pay?The OP opens this thread as if democrats give a fuck about women.
Horseshit.
The only thing democrats give a fuck about is controlling women.
Perhaps we should follow the example of Fox's ex whip master
We had a war with Nazi ideology, too, and we didn't have to kill all Germans to eradicate it. We even invited some here to develop nukes. Your trash and burn approach is more fascist than necessary, Boss. Brute force unfairly applied doesn't lead to lasting peace.No one has their head in the sand.No one has their head in the sand. I am well aware that we are in conflict with radical Islam. However, that doesn't mean that we punish all Muslims for the actions of their radicals. Should we vet Muslims coming into this country to insure that they are not radicals? Sure. And we do. But to just issue a blanket ban on all Muslims does nothing but piss of the Muslims that aren't radicals, feed the narrative of the radicals that "The Devil West' hates all Muslims, and makes it easier for the radicals to recruit more Muslims to their cause.
So, sure. Let's just ban all Muslims, and make it easier for the radicals to swell their ranks.
Yes... you do.
I am well aware that we are in conflict with radical Islam.
No. We are AT WAR with radical Islam. You and I are having a "conflict."
However, that doesn't mean that we punish all Muslims for the actions of their radicals.
We have to because we don't know who is radicalized and who is not. If the religious leaders were denouncing and dejecting these people from their religion it might be different... they aren't. They continue to passively support them and play their "peaceful Muslim" card. So yes, at this point, all Muslims have to be punished with inconvenience because of this. Sorry.
Should we vet Muslims coming into this country to insure that they are not radicals? Sure. And we do.
We can't vet them and our security people admit we can't. We have no way to ensure they're not radicals. One of their primary tactics is deception.
But to just issue a blanket ban on all Muslims does nothing but piss of the Muslims that aren't radicals, feed the narrative of the radicals that "The Devil West' hates all Muslims, and makes it easier for the radicals to recruit more Muslims to their cause.
That's why we have to kill them. I'm not concerned with hurt feelings at this point. Wars can't be fought with concerns about who you may piss off.
Look, this is a war with an ideology. There are two ways to defeat it. The first way is by supplanting a better ideology to replace it... we tried that with democracy... it didn't work. We can debate why it didn't work but the fact remains, it didn't work. That leaves us with Option Two... total annihilation. We have to wipe them off the planet in no uncertain terms. Appeasing, tolerating and denying is not going to get the job done, it's going to make matters worse... as it has.
Trust me, if we unleash the full force of our military on this bunch of 3rd world scum, they will not be able to recruit a wharf rat. First, we have to make them respect us and we've not done that. Unlike Western culture, you don't gain their respect by being cordial and diplomatic, you have to show unyielding and brutal force. That's what they understand.
We had a war with Nazi ideology, too, and we didn't have to kill all Germans to eradicate it. We even invited some here to develop nukes. Your trash and burn approach is more fascist than necessary, Boss. Brute force unfairly applied doesn't lead to lasting peace.No one has their head in the sand.No one has their head in the sand. I am well aware that we are in conflict with radical Islam. However, that doesn't mean that we punish all Muslims for the actions of their radicals. Should we vet Muslims coming into this country to insure that they are not radicals? Sure. And we do. But to just issue a blanket ban on all Muslims does nothing but piss of the Muslims that aren't radicals, feed the narrative of the radicals that "The Devil West' hates all Muslims, and makes it easier for the radicals to recruit more Muslims to their cause.
So, sure. Let's just ban all Muslims, and make it easier for the radicals to swell their ranks.
Yes... you do.
I am well aware that we are in conflict with radical Islam.
No. We are AT WAR with radical Islam. You and I are having a "conflict."
However, that doesn't mean that we punish all Muslims for the actions of their radicals.
We have to because we don't know who is radicalized and who is not. If the religious leaders were denouncing and dejecting these people from their religion it might be different... they aren't. They continue to passively support them and play their "peaceful Muslim" card. So yes, at this point, all Muslims have to be punished with inconvenience because of this. Sorry.
Should we vet Muslims coming into this country to insure that they are not radicals? Sure. And we do.
We can't vet them and our security people admit we can't. We have no way to ensure they're not radicals. One of their primary tactics is deception.
But to just issue a blanket ban on all Muslims does nothing but piss of the Muslims that aren't radicals, feed the narrative of the radicals that "The Devil West' hates all Muslims, and makes it easier for the radicals to recruit more Muslims to their cause.
That's why we have to kill them. I'm not concerned with hurt feelings at this point. Wars can't be fought with concerns about who you may piss off.
Look, this is a war with an ideology. There are two ways to defeat it. The first way is by supplanting a better ideology to replace it... we tried that with democracy... it didn't work. We can debate why it didn't work but the fact remains, it didn't work. That leaves us with Option Two... total annihilation. We have to wipe them off the planet in no uncertain terms. Appeasing, tolerating and denying is not going to get the job done, it's going to make matters worse... as it has.
Trust me, if we unleash the full force of our military on this bunch of 3rd world scum, they will not be able to recruit a wharf rat. First, we have to make them respect us and we've not done that. Unlike Western culture, you don't gain their respect by being cordial and diplomatic, you have to show unyielding and brutal force. That's what they understand.
Your wish is our command. I'm pretty sure if you looked in to it, you'd find the majority of refugees are women and kids. We select based on who's in the worst predicament.We had a war with Nazi ideology, too, and we didn't have to kill all Germans to eradicate it. We even invited some here to develop nukes. Your trash and burn approach is more fascist than necessary, Boss. Brute force unfairly applied doesn't lead to lasting peace.No one has their head in the sand.No one has their head in the sand. I am well aware that we are in conflict with radical Islam. However, that doesn't mean that we punish all Muslims for the actions of their radicals. Should we vet Muslims coming into this country to insure that they are not radicals? Sure. And we do. But to just issue a blanket ban on all Muslims does nothing but piss of the Muslims that aren't radicals, feed the narrative of the radicals that "The Devil West' hates all Muslims, and makes it easier for the radicals to recruit more Muslims to their cause.
So, sure. Let's just ban all Muslims, and make it easier for the radicals to swell their ranks.
Yes... you do.
I am well aware that we are in conflict with radical Islam.
No. We are AT WAR with radical Islam. You and I are having a "conflict."
However, that doesn't mean that we punish all Muslims for the actions of their radicals.
We have to because we don't know who is radicalized and who is not. If the religious leaders were denouncing and dejecting these people from their religion it might be different... they aren't. They continue to passively support them and play their "peaceful Muslim" card. So yes, at this point, all Muslims have to be punished with inconvenience because of this. Sorry.
Should we vet Muslims coming into this country to insure that they are not radicals? Sure. And we do.
We can't vet them and our security people admit we can't. We have no way to ensure they're not radicals. One of their primary tactics is deception.
But to just issue a blanket ban on all Muslims does nothing but piss of the Muslims that aren't radicals, feed the narrative of the radicals that "The Devil West' hates all Muslims, and makes it easier for the radicals to recruit more Muslims to their cause.
That's why we have to kill them. I'm not concerned with hurt feelings at this point. Wars can't be fought with concerns about who you may piss off.
Look, this is a war with an ideology. There are two ways to defeat it. The first way is by supplanting a better ideology to replace it... we tried that with democracy... it didn't work. We can debate why it didn't work but the fact remains, it didn't work. That leaves us with Option Two... total annihilation. We have to wipe them off the planet in no uncertain terms. Appeasing, tolerating and denying is not going to get the job done, it's going to make matters worse... as it has.
Trust me, if we unleash the full force of our military on this bunch of 3rd world scum, they will not be able to recruit a wharf rat. First, we have to make them respect us and we've not done that. Unlike Western culture, you don't gain their respect by being cordial and diplomatic, you have to show unyielding and brutal force. That's what they understand.
We had a war with Nazi ideology, too, and we didn't have to kill all Germans to eradicate it.
No, but we killed a huge percentage of the fighting age men.
Tell you what, let's only take women and children under age 10.
No male Muslim 11 or older.
Send them to Syria.
We had a war with Nazi ideology, too, and we didn't have to kill all Germans to eradicate it. We even invited some here to develop nukes. Your trash and burn approach is more fascist than necessary, Boss. Brute force unfairly applied doesn't lead to lasting peace.No one has their head in the sand.No one has their head in the sand. I am well aware that we are in conflict with radical Islam. However, that doesn't mean that we punish all Muslims for the actions of their radicals. Should we vet Muslims coming into this country to insure that they are not radicals? Sure. And we do. But to just issue a blanket ban on all Muslims does nothing but piss of the Muslims that aren't radicals, feed the narrative of the radicals that "The Devil West' hates all Muslims, and makes it easier for the radicals to recruit more Muslims to their cause.
So, sure. Let's just ban all Muslims, and make it easier for the radicals to swell their ranks.
Yes... you do.
I am well aware that we are in conflict with radical Islam.
No. We are AT WAR with radical Islam. You and I are having a "conflict."
However, that doesn't mean that we punish all Muslims for the actions of their radicals.
We have to because we don't know who is radicalized and who is not. If the religious leaders were denouncing and dejecting these people from their religion it might be different... they aren't. They continue to passively support them and play their "peaceful Muslim" card. So yes, at this point, all Muslims have to be punished with inconvenience because of this. Sorry.
Should we vet Muslims coming into this country to insure that they are not radicals? Sure. And we do.
We can't vet them and our security people admit we can't. We have no way to ensure they're not radicals. One of their primary tactics is deception.
But to just issue a blanket ban on all Muslims does nothing but piss of the Muslims that aren't radicals, feed the narrative of the radicals that "The Devil West' hates all Muslims, and makes it easier for the radicals to recruit more Muslims to their cause.
That's why we have to kill them. I'm not concerned with hurt feelings at this point. Wars can't be fought with concerns about who you may piss off.
Look, this is a war with an ideology. There are two ways to defeat it. The first way is by supplanting a better ideology to replace it... we tried that with democracy... it didn't work. We can debate why it didn't work but the fact remains, it didn't work. That leaves us with Option Two... total annihilation. We have to wipe them off the planet in no uncertain terms. Appeasing, tolerating and denying is not going to get the job done, it's going to make matters worse... as it has.
Trust me, if we unleash the full force of our military on this bunch of 3rd world scum, they will not be able to recruit a wharf rat. First, we have to make them respect us and we've not done that. Unlike Western culture, you don't gain their respect by being cordial and diplomatic, you have to show unyielding and brutal force. That's what they understand.
We had a war with Nazi ideology, too, and we didn't have to kill all Germans to eradicate it. We even invited some here to develop nukes. Your trash and burn approach is more fascist than necessary, Boss. Brute force unfairly applied doesn't lead to lasting peace.No one has their head in the sand.No one has their head in the sand. I am well aware that we are in conflict with radical Islam. However, that doesn't mean that we punish all Muslims for the actions of their radicals. Should we vet Muslims coming into this country to insure that they are not radicals? Sure. And we do. But to just issue a blanket ban on all Muslims does nothing but piss of the Muslims that aren't radicals, feed the narrative of the radicals that "The Devil West' hates all Muslims, and makes it easier for the radicals to recruit more Muslims to their cause.
So, sure. Let's just ban all Muslims, and make it easier for the radicals to swell their ranks.
Yes... you do.
I am well aware that we are in conflict with radical Islam.
No. We are AT WAR with radical Islam. You and I are having a "conflict."
However, that doesn't mean that we punish all Muslims for the actions of their radicals.
We have to because we don't know who is radicalized and who is not. If the religious leaders were denouncing and dejecting these people from their religion it might be different... they aren't. They continue to passively support them and play their "peaceful Muslim" card. So yes, at this point, all Muslims have to be punished with inconvenience because of this. Sorry.
Should we vet Muslims coming into this country to insure that they are not radicals? Sure. And we do.
We can't vet them and our security people admit we can't. We have no way to ensure they're not radicals. One of their primary tactics is deception.
But to just issue a blanket ban on all Muslims does nothing but piss of the Muslims that aren't radicals, feed the narrative of the radicals that "The Devil West' hates all Muslims, and makes it easier for the radicals to recruit more Muslims to their cause.
That's why we have to kill them. I'm not concerned with hurt feelings at this point. Wars can't be fought with concerns about who you may piss off.
Look, this is a war with an ideology. There are two ways to defeat it. The first way is by supplanting a better ideology to replace it... we tried that with democracy... it didn't work. We can debate why it didn't work but the fact remains, it didn't work. That leaves us with Option Two... total annihilation. We have to wipe them off the planet in no uncertain terms. Appeasing, tolerating and denying is not going to get the job done, it's going to make matters worse... as it has.
Trust me, if we unleash the full force of our military on this bunch of 3rd world scum, they will not be able to recruit a wharf rat. First, we have to make them respect us and we've not done that. Unlike Western culture, you don't gain their respect by being cordial and diplomatic, you have to show unyielding and brutal force. That's what they understand.
We burned Dresden to the ground... men, women and children. And the Nazi ideology was confined to one country under one flag with one uniformed army. This is a widespread religious fanaticism that spans the entire middle east, north Africa and parts of Europe.
We had a war with Nazi ideology, too, and we didn't have to kill all Germans to eradicate it. We even invited some here to develop nukes. Your trash and burn approach is more fascist than necessary, Boss. Brute force unfairly applied doesn't lead to lasting peace.No one has their head in the sand.No one has their head in the sand. I am well aware that we are in conflict with radical Islam. However, that doesn't mean that we punish all Muslims for the actions of their radicals. Should we vet Muslims coming into this country to insure that they are not radicals? Sure. And we do. But to just issue a blanket ban on all Muslims does nothing but piss of the Muslims that aren't radicals, feed the narrative of the radicals that "The Devil West' hates all Muslims, and makes it easier for the radicals to recruit more Muslims to their cause.
So, sure. Let's just ban all Muslims, and make it easier for the radicals to swell their ranks.
Yes... you do.
I am well aware that we are in conflict with radical Islam.
No. We are AT WAR with radical Islam. You and I are having a "conflict."
However, that doesn't mean that we punish all Muslims for the actions of their radicals.
We have to because we don't know who is radicalized and who is not. If the religious leaders were denouncing and dejecting these people from their religion it might be different... they aren't. They continue to passively support them and play their "peaceful Muslim" card. So yes, at this point, all Muslims have to be punished with inconvenience because of this. Sorry.
Should we vet Muslims coming into this country to insure that they are not radicals? Sure. And we do.
We can't vet them and our security people admit we can't. We have no way to ensure they're not radicals. One of their primary tactics is deception.
But to just issue a blanket ban on all Muslims does nothing but piss of the Muslims that aren't radicals, feed the narrative of the radicals that "The Devil West' hates all Muslims, and makes it easier for the radicals to recruit more Muslims to their cause.
That's why we have to kill them. I'm not concerned with hurt feelings at this point. Wars can't be fought with concerns about who you may piss off.
Look, this is a war with an ideology. There are two ways to defeat it. The first way is by supplanting a better ideology to replace it... we tried that with democracy... it didn't work. We can debate why it didn't work but the fact remains, it didn't work. That leaves us with Option Two... total annihilation. We have to wipe them off the planet in no uncertain terms. Appeasing, tolerating and denying is not going to get the job done, it's going to make matters worse... as it has.
Trust me, if we unleash the full force of our military on this bunch of 3rd world scum, they will not be able to recruit a wharf rat. First, we have to make them respect us and we've not done that. Unlike Western culture, you don't gain their respect by being cordial and diplomatic, you have to show unyielding and brutal force. That's what they understand.
We burned Dresden to the ground... men, women and children. And the Nazi ideology was confined to one country under one flag with one uniformed army. This is a widespread religious fanaticism that spans the entire middle east, north Africa and parts of Europe.
Ya know, I don't know which is more disturbing - that you know all of our most vile, disgusting, universally condemned actions throughout our history, or the fact that you want to cite each and every one of them as excusing for repeating our mistakes. Hey. Here's an idea. We also owned other human beings until 1856. Why don't we take the refugees, tag them with RFD chips, leash, and collar them, and force them to be our servants. It's gotta be a good idea. After all we did it before, right?
Ya know, I don't know which is more disturbing - that you know all of our most vile, disgusting, universally condemned actions throughout our history, or the fact that you want to cite each and every one of them as excusing for repeating our mistakes. Hey. Here's an idea. We also owned other human beings until 1856. Why don't we take the refugees, tag them with RFD chips, leash, and collar them, and force them to be our servants. It's gotta be a good idea. After all we did it before, right?
I understand perfectly. You're a skeered little pussy who is so concerned about your paranoid delusions that someone is "going to get you", that you would turn your back on suffering, and choose the points in our history when we were at our absolute worst, when we were petty, stupid, irrational, and unjust to excuse your un-American attitude.Ya know, I don't know which is more disturbing - that you know all of our most vile, disgusting, universally condemned actions throughout our history, or the fact that you want to cite each and every one of them as excusing for repeating our mistakes. Hey. Here's an idea. We also owned other human beings until 1856. Why don't we take the refugees, tag them with RFD chips, leash, and collar them, and force them to be our servants. It's gotta be a good idea. After all we did it before, right?
We never RFD chipped anyone and forced them to be our servants. Wealthy white Europeans brought the age-old practice of slavery to this country and it took us a while to get rid of it. The main reason we did so was because it was a BAD idea for a country dedicated to the proposition that all men are created equal.
Refugees in some terrorist shithole are not my problem. I don't want them coming into my country because they could be radicalized and we have no way to know. You're obviously too stupid to understand this and people like yourself just need to be marginalized and kept from political power.
Hey... here's an idea... we round up miscreants like you and put you in and internment camp until we get the radical Islam problem under control. Worked for your idol, FDR!
That's funny. The little pussy afraid of the mean men in the turbans thinks he's clever. Remind us all, who is it that is so skeered of the mean Muslim men, that he thinks we have to ban them all? Yeah, that's what I thought. No projecting here.Stop projecting.
That's funny. The little pussy afraid of the mean men in the turbans thinks he's clever. Remind us all, who is it that is so skeered of the mean Muslim men, that he thinks we have to ban them all? Yeah, that's what I thought. No projecting here.