A sobering question regarding US bombing Iran nuke program

[j-mac]

No. Idea of being "responsible" means not to destroy civilian nuclear infrastructure because the voices in your head said you to do so.

Your clam of Iran’s program being for civilian use is a straight up lie.

 

[j-mac]

Actually, Zavulon (Zebulun) is one of the modern forms of the Jewish name זְבוּלוּן, if you need to know.

Well then, you’re a self hating Jew. What’s the difference?

 

[kyzr]

Really? Even US Intelligence community didn't have any evidence of it. And if Trump more trust to the voices in his head than to his CIA Chief - we can't name his "sane" even in medical sense of the word.

Iran was enriching uranium. They were going to make a bomb.

And now they are in few days from buying modern nuclear weapons. Trump and Bibi just destroyed NPT, and it made the world much more dangerous and challenging place.

So who is going to sell Iran nukes? Russia? China? You think that would absolve them of responsibility for those bombs?

 

[kyzr]

1. Trump just lost the nickname "TACO"
2. Trump's credibility just got a boost, in spades.
3. Countries jerking Trump around during tariff negotiations are playing with fire.
4. Putin and Z should rethink some if their positions.
5. Xi and his desires for Taiwan just got put on hold for a few years.
6. The USA has a real president.

 

[Rawley]

No even a single evidence (short of the voices in Trump's empty head) that they were developing nuclear weapons.

"Civilians" do not hide their "civilian" nuclear facilities 300 feet under the ground

 

[Rawley]

Naval reactors can use (and British and American actually use) 93,5% enriched Uranium-235.

US study of reactor and fuel types to enable naval reactors to shift from HEU fuel

Alan Kuperman, Frank von Hippel In February 2020, the US Department of Energy's office of Defense Nuclear Nonproliferation released its report, Initial Evaluation of Fuel-Reactor Concepts for Advanced LEU Fuel Development, a screening study for potential fuel and reactor types...

fissilematerials.org

Plus, of course, medical-isotope and research reactors.
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The Congressional interest was in whether it might be possible to expand a longstanding US-led nonproliferation initiative, aimed at ending worldwide civilian use of HEU in research-reactor fuel and medical isotope production, to encompass all non-weapon uses of HEU, including those of the military. The benefits would include eliminating the possibility of theft of HEU from the naval fuel cycle, which has happened in the past in both the US and Russia. They also include making it more difficult for countries such as Iran to justify production of HEU for their planned naval reactors. Brazil, the only non-nuclear-weapons state currently with a nuclear submarine development program is working with LEU fuel.
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Last I checked, "naval" was not civilian.

 

[Zavulon]

Your clam of Iran’s program being for civilian use is a straight up lie.

Of course not. It's quite official. And anyway, you have no even a single proof of its military goals.

 

[j-mac]

Of course not. It's quite official. And anyway, you have no even a single proof of its military goals.

You really must believe American's are stupid....

"
When Israel launched airstrikes on Iran’s nuclear and military infrastructure last week, Israel said it was doing so to disrupt the development of nuclear weapons by Iran, which it claimed was nearing capability.

Iranian officials have said that the country’s nuclear facilities are not being used to create weapons but solely for civilian purposes, primarily for the production of energy. The U.N.’s International Atomic Energy Agency recently criticized Iran’s “general lack of co-operation” and warned that the country had enough enriched uranium to be near weapons grade and could potentially make several nuclear bombs.

Concerns that Iran could start making nuclear weapons have grown as Iran has accumulated more than 400 kg (880 pounds) of uranium enriched to 60%. The IAEA reported that Iran is in breach of the 2015 Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action it signed with several major countries stating that it would not surpass the 3.67% uranium enrichment level limit. The United States abandoned the agreement in 2018."

Is Iran’s nuclear program producing energy or developing weapons? A Northeastern expert explains the science of nuclear power

Iran has said that its nuclear facilities are not being used to create weapons, but are primarily used for the production of energy.

news.northeastern.edu

 

[Zavulon]

Last I checked, "naval" was not civilian.

They can mount a small reactor on a civilian ship, too. Say nothing about research and medical isotope producing reactors.

Anyway, no one has to prove his innocence. The guilt should be proven. It was not. It means that Trump deliberately has destroyed non-proliferation treaty and started a new war only because the voices in his head said him to do so.

 

[Zavulon]

You really must believe American's are stupid....

"
When Israel launched airstrikes on Iran’s nuclear and military infrastructure last week, Israel said it was doing so to disrupt the development of nuclear weapons by Iran, which it claimed was nearing capability.

Iranian officials have said that the country’s nuclear facilities are not being used to create weapons but solely for civilian purposes, primarily for the production of energy. The U.N.’s International Atomic Energy Agency recently criticized Iran’s “general lack of co-operation” and warned that the country had enough enriched uranium to be near weapons grade and could potentially make several nuclear bombs.

Concerns that Iran could start making nuclear weapons have grown as Iran has accumulated more than 400 kg (880 pounds) of uranium enriched to 60%. The IAEA reported that Iran is in breach of the 2015 Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action it signed with several major countries stating that it would not surpass the 3.67% uranium enrichment level limit. The United States abandoned the agreement in 2018."

Is Iran’s nuclear program producing energy or developing weapons? A Northeastern expert explains the science of nuclear power

Iran has said that its nuclear facilities are not being used to create weapons, but are primarily used for the production of energy.

news.northeastern.edu

They can print their "concerns" at the paper, roll it and shove it deep in their rectums. There are potential civilian use even for high enriched Uranium, and it is Iran's right to enrich it for civilian purposes. You need proves, not "concerns" to start kill people and destroy treaties. There were no proves of Iran's guilt. No single one.

 

[Rawley]

They can mount a small reactor on a civilian ship, too. Say nothing about research and medical isotope producing reactors.

Anyway, no one has to prove his innocence. The guilt should be proven. It was not. It means that Trump deliberately has destroyed non-proliferation treaty and started a new war only because the voices in his head said him to do so.

Well, you go with that, honey.

 

[Zavulon]

"Civilians" do not hide their "civilian" nuclear facilities 300 feet under the ground

Of course they do, when they have to deal with aggressive schizophrenics like Trump and Bibi.

 

[Zavulon]

Well then, you’re a self hating Jew. What’s the difference?

I'm not a Jew. I'm a Russian. My father was a Jew, and half of my cousins are Jews. I don't hate Jews. I just think, that Israel's regime play very stupid and very dangerous games.

 

[Zavulon]

Iran was enriching uranium.

Yes.

They were going to make a bomb.

No.

So who is going to sell Iran nukes? Russia?

Yes.

China?

May be.

You think that would absolve them of responsibility for those bombs?

Yes. As American and European supply of ordnance to Ukraine didn't make them "participating" in Russia-Ukrainian conflict (at least they've said so), same way, Russia and China, selling nukes to Iran won't "participate", only "facilitate". Anyway, what can you do about it?

 

[irosie91]

Yes.


No.

Yes.

May be.

Yes. As American and European supply of ordnance to Ukraine didn't make them "participating" in Russia-Ukrainian conflict (at least they've said so), same way, Russia and China, selling nukes to Iran won't "participate", only "facilitate". Anyway, what can you do about it?

the leaders of UKRAINE are not leading the masses and mobs in "DEATH TO AMERICA" chants

 

[Zavulon]

the leaders of UKRAINE are not leading the masses and mobs in "DEATH TO AMERICA" chants

Their mobs are chanting "Russians to the gallows!" And, they actually committed mass murders of local Russians. NATO in Ukraine (or Ukraine in NATO) is much more serious threat to Russians, than potential Iranian nukes to the USA. Anyway, its not about justification of Russia's or America's attacks against Ukraine and Iran. It is about the difference between "facilitation" and "participation". Selling weapons is not "participation".

 

[kyzr]

Yes. As American and European supply of ordnance to Ukraine didn't make them "participating" in Russia-Ukrainian conflict (at least they've said so), same way, Russia and China, selling nukes to Iran won't "participate", only "facilitate". Anyway, what can you do about it?

If a Russian nuke explodes on US soil or near a US base that would trigger a nuclear response. Just so you know.

 

[irosie91]

Their mobs are chanting "Russians to the gallows!" And, they actually committed mass murders of local Russians. NATO in Ukraine (or Ukraine in NATO) is much more serious threat to Russians, than potential Iranian nukes to the USA. Anyway, its not about justification of Russia's or America's attacks against Ukraine and Iran. It is about the difference between "facilitation" and "participation". Selling weapons is not "participation".

to what is your post supposed to be responsive? Ukraine is at war with Russia. The subject
is Iran's stance and AGGRESSION on the USA

 

[rightwinger]

What happens if Iran retaliates against a U.S. base or ship?

Trump will order another bigger attack

What happens if Iran then kills more US servicemen?
Trump will demand an invasion

Where does it end?

 

[irosie91]

What happens if Iran retaliates against a U.S. base or ship?

Trump will order another bigger attack

What happens if Iran then kills more US servicemen?
Trump will demand an invasion

Where does it end?

you have devolved into faux metaphysics