A Rubicon moment for Trump

[Tommy Tainant]

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The President delivered a bizarre and erratic performance from the White House podium on Monday night.
Well, more than erratic. Alarming.
Americans are bracing for the coronavirus hurricane to strike with full intensity in the coming few weeks.
Already the death toll is over 500.
And it’s expected to increase rapidly over the next few days, with New York the national hotspot.
So what is President Trump’s response?
In rambling comments that defy the global consensus he is suggesting that he might soon lift some of the restrictions being imposed on citizens and businesses.
Yes, you read that correctly. Lift the restrictions.

Its certainly a bold move. I think he is gambling that it will work out and he will have saved the world. But the evidence from around the world is that lockdowns work and that this will cause the disease to spread further. He is playing politics with peoples lives.A Rubicon moment indeed.

 

[Polishprince]

Trump dismisses all expert advice and vows to reopen America | ITV News

Americans are bracing for the coronavirus hurricane to strike in the coming few weeks. So what is President Trump’s response? | ITV National News

www.itv.com

The President delivered a bizarre and erratic performance from the White House podium on Monday night.
Well, more than erratic. Alarming.
Americans are bracing for the coronavirus hurricane to strike with full intensity in the coming few weeks.
Already the death toll is over 500.
And it’s expected to increase rapidly over the next few days, with New York the national hotspot.
So what is President Trump’s response?
In rambling comments that defy the global consensus he is suggesting that he might soon lift some of the restrictions being imposed on citizens and businesses.
Yes, you read that correctly. Lift the restrictions.

Its certainly a bold move. I think he is gambling that it will work out and he will have saved the world. But the evidence from around the world is that lockdowns work and that this will cause the disease to spread further. He is playing politics with peoples lives.A Rubicon moment indeed.

President Trump is concerned that the world might be plunged into a new great depression with 30% unemployment rates and widespread poverty for the next 1000 years. Democrats in America think that would be a tremendous idea, because they see it as a path to power for them to implement their Hell on Earth Agenda, aka the "New Green Deal". How many billions would be expected to die in abject poverty before the year 3000- poverty kills you know.

BTW, we have an election in just a few months. If the people agree with the Democrats that we need to destroy the economy, they will have an opportunity to elect Sleepy Joe in just a few months.

 

[Tommy Tainant]

Trump dismisses all expert advice and vows to reopen America | ITV News

Americans are bracing for the coronavirus hurricane to strike in the coming few weeks. So what is President Trump’s response? | ITV National News

www.itv.com

The President delivered a bizarre and erratic performance from the White House podium on Monday night.
Well, more than erratic. Alarming.
Americans are bracing for the coronavirus hurricane to strike with full intensity in the coming few weeks.
Already the death toll is over 500.
And it’s expected to increase rapidly over the next few days, with New York the national hotspot.
So what is President Trump’s response?
In rambling comments that defy the global consensus he is suggesting that he might soon lift some of the restrictions being imposed on citizens and businesses.
Yes, you read that correctly. Lift the restrictions.

Its certainly a bold move. I think he is gambling that it will work out and he will have saved the world. But the evidence from around the world is that lockdowns work and that this will cause the disease to spread further. He is playing politics with peoples lives.A Rubicon moment indeed.

President Trump is concerned that the world might be plunged into a new great depression with 30% unemployment rates and widespread poverty for the next 1000 years. Democrats in America think that would be a tremendous idea, because they see it as a path to power for them to implement their Hell on Earth Agenda, aka the "New Green Deal". How many billions would be expected to die in abject poverty before the year 3000- poverty kills you know.

BTW, we have an election in just a few months. If the people agree with the Democrats that we need to destroy the economy, they will have an opportunity to elect Sleepy Joe in just a few months.

A 1000 years ?
Try and get some perspective in your life.

 

[Polishprince]

Trump dismisses all expert advice and vows to reopen America | ITV News

Americans are bracing for the coronavirus hurricane to strike in the coming few weeks. So what is President Trump’s response? | ITV National News

www.itv.com

The President delivered a bizarre and erratic performance from the White House podium on Monday night.
Well, more than erratic. Alarming.
Americans are bracing for the coronavirus hurricane to strike with full intensity in the coming few weeks.
Already the death toll is over 500.
And it’s expected to increase rapidly over the next few days, with New York the national hotspot.
So what is President Trump’s response?
In rambling comments that defy the global consensus he is suggesting that he might soon lift some of the restrictions being imposed on citizens and businesses.
Yes, you read that correctly. Lift the restrictions.

Its certainly a bold move. I think he is gambling that it will work out and he will have saved the world. But the evidence from around the world is that lockdowns work and that this will cause the disease to spread further. He is playing politics with peoples lives.A Rubicon moment indeed.

President Trump is concerned that the world might be plunged into a new great depression with 30% unemployment rates and widespread poverty for the next 1000 years. Democrats in America think that would be a tremendous idea, because they see it as a path to power for them to implement their Hell on Earth Agenda, aka the "New Green Deal". How many billions would be expected to die in abject poverty before the year 3000- poverty kills you know.

BTW, we have an election in just a few months. If the people agree with the Democrats that we need to destroy the economy, they will have an opportunity to elect Sleepy Joe in just a few months.

A 1000 years ?
Try and get some perspective in your life.

Even if the economy and employment recovers in just 200 years, I can't see this as that tremendous, America becoming a shithole for that length of time.

 

[SweetSue92]

Trump dismisses all expert advice and vows to reopen America | ITV News

Americans are bracing for the coronavirus hurricane to strike in the coming few weeks. So what is President Trump’s response? | ITV National News

www.itv.com

The President delivered a bizarre and erratic performance from the White House podium on Monday night.
Well, more than erratic. Alarming.
Americans are bracing for the coronavirus hurricane to strike with full intensity in the coming few weeks.
Already the death toll is over 500.
And it’s expected to increase rapidly over the next few days, with New York the national hotspot.
So what is President Trump’s response?
In rambling comments that defy the global consensus he is suggesting that he might soon lift some of the restrictions being imposed on citizens and businesses.
Yes, you read that correctly. Lift the restrictions.

Its certainly a bold move. I think he is gambling that it will work out and he will have saved the world. But the evidence from around the world is that lockdowns work and that this will cause the disease to spread further. He is playing politics with peoples lives.A Rubicon moment indeed.

You gave the game away on your little thread about your chance to nationalize the British railroads, Tommy.

We know your game. "Never let a crisis go to waste".

You lose, now crawl back into your hole

 

[22lcidw]

Trump dismisses all expert advice and vows to reopen America | ITV News

Americans are bracing for the coronavirus hurricane to strike in the coming few weeks. So what is President Trump’s response? | ITV National News

www.itv.com

The President delivered a bizarre and erratic performance from the White House podium on Monday night.
Well, more than erratic. Alarming.
Americans are bracing for the coronavirus hurricane to strike with full intensity in the coming few weeks.
Already the death toll is over 500.
And it’s expected to increase rapidly over the next few days, with New York the national hotspot.
So what is President Trump’s response?
In rambling comments that defy the global consensus he is suggesting that he might soon lift some of the restrictions being imposed on citizens and businesses.
Yes, you read that correctly. Lift the restrictions.

Its certainly a bold move. I think he is gambling that it will work out and he will have saved the world. But the evidence from around the world is that lockdowns work and that this will cause the disease to spread further. He is playing politics with peoples lives.A Rubicon moment indeed.

President Trump is concerned that the world might be plunged into a new great depression with 30% unemployment rates and widespread poverty for the next 1000 years. Democrats in America think that would be a tremendous idea, because they see it as a path to power for them to implement their Hell on Earth Agenda, aka the "New Green Deal". How many billions would be expected to die in abject poverty before the year 3000- poverty kills you know.

BTW, we have an election in just a few months. If the people agree with the Democrats that we need to destroy the economy, they will have an opportunity to elect Sleepy Joe in just a few months.

A 1000 years ?
Try and get some perspective in your life.

Oh Tommy...there are debts hundreds of years old. 8 billion people Tommy. Trying to build something out of the rubble with jealousies as they are, is not that easy. There may be war on top of war just for that reason.

 

[Gdjjr]

Americans are bracing for the coronavirus hurricane to strike with full intensity in the coming few weeks.

The 2009 H1N1 Pandemic: A New Flu Virus Emerges
The (H1N1)pdm09 virus was very different from H1N1 viruses that were circulating at the time of the pandemic. Few young people had any existing immunity (as detected by antibody response) to the (H1N1)pdm09 virus, but nearly one-third of people over 60 years old had antibodies against this virus, likely from exposure to an older H1N1 virus earlier in their lives. Since the (H1N1)pdm09 virus was very different from circulating H1N1 viruses, vaccination with seasonal flu vaccines offered little cross-protection against (H1N1)pdm09 virus infection. While a monovalent (H1N1)pdm09 vaccine was produced, it was not available in large quantities until late November—after the peak of illness during the second wave had come and gone in the United States. From April 12, 2009 to April 10, 2010, CDC estimated there were 60.8 million cases (range: 43.3-89.3 million), 274,304 hospitalizations (range: 195,086-402,719), and 12,469 deaths (range: 8868-18,306) in the United States due to the (H1N1)pdm09 virus.

Additionally, CDC estimated that 151,700-575,400 people worldwide died from (H1N1)pdm09 virus infection during the first year the virus circulated.** Globally, 80 percent of (H1N1)pdm09 virus-related deaths were estimated to have occurred in people younger than 65 years of age. This differs greatly from typical seasonal influenza epidemics, during which about 70 percent to 90 percent of deaths are estimated to occur in people 65 years and older.

2009 H1N1 Pandemic

A summary of key events of the 2009 H1N1 pandemic and the CDC's response activities between April 2009 and April 2010.

www.cdc.gov

 

[Tommy Tainant]

Being broke is better than being dead. Trump is taking an enormous gamble with peoples lives.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

Trump dismisses all expert advice and vows to reopen America | ITV News

Americans are bracing for the coronavirus hurricane to strike in the coming few weeks. So what is President Trump’s response? | ITV National News

www.itv.com

The President delivered a bizarre and erratic performance from the White House podium on Monday night.
Well, more than erratic. Alarming.
Americans are bracing for the coronavirus hurricane to strike with full intensity in the coming few weeks.
Already the death toll is over 500.
And it’s expected to increase rapidly over the next few days, with New York the national hotspot.
So what is President Trump’s response?
In rambling comments that defy the global consensus he is suggesting that he might soon lift some of the restrictions being imposed on citizens and businesses.
Yes, you read that correctly. Lift the restrictions.

Its certainly a bold move. I think he is gambling that it will work out and he will have saved the world. But the evidence from around the world is that lockdowns work and that this will cause the disease to spread further. He is playing politics with peoples lives.A Rubicon moment indeed.

President Trump is concerned that the world might be plunged into a new great depression with 30% unemployment rates and widespread poverty for the next 1000 years. Democrats in America think that would be a tremendous idea, because they see it as a path to power for them to implement their Hell on Earth Agenda, aka the "New Green Deal". How many billions would be expected to die in abject poverty before the year 3000- poverty kills you know.

BTW, we have an election in just a few months. If the people agree with the Democrats that we need to destroy the economy, they will have an opportunity to elect Sleepy Joe in just a few months.

1000 years???

 

[Gdjjr]

Being broke is better than being dead. Trump is taking an enormous gamble with peoples lives.

Life is a gamble.

 

[Polishprince]

Being broke is better than being dead. Trump is taking an enormous gamble with peoples lives.

Being broke is a lot more deadly than the Chinese Kung Flu. The death rates among the Homeless, in the Ghetto, in poor countries like Bangladesh and Congo, is a lot higher than in affluent places

 

[Billy_Kinetta]

Being broke is better than being dead. Trump is taking an enormous gamble with peoples lives.

If the nation breaks they will soon be dead anyway.

500 is nothing. Not even a blip.

I believe the choice will come down to this: Either we re-flip the ON switch and take our chances with the treatments currently available, or we spend the rest of our lives ekeing out a life in a third-world shithole.

The death toll from that will be incomprehensible.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Being broke is better than being dead. Trump is taking an enormous gamble with peoples lives.

So you agree that Trump needs to suspend the election until Corona is completely eradicated, correct?

 

[Tommy Tainant]

Being broke is better than being dead. Trump is taking an enormous gamble with peoples lives.

If the nation breaks they will soon be dead anyway.

500 is nothing. Not even a blip.

I believe the choice will come down to this: Either we re-flip the ON switch and take our chances with the treatments currently available, or we spend the rest of our lives ekeing out a life in a third-world shithole.

The death toll from that will be incomprehensible.

Waiting a few more weeks is not the end of the world. The Chinese have cracked it and are starting to rebuild. We can do it as well if we are sensible.

 

[Billy_Kinetta]

Being broke is better than being dead. Trump is taking an enormous gamble with peoples lives.

If the nation breaks they will soon be dead anyway.

500 is nothing. Not even a blip.

I believe the choice will come down to this: Either we re-flip the ON switch and take our chances with the treatments currently available, or we spend the rest of our lives ekeing out a life in a third-world shithole.

The death toll from that will be incomprehensible.

Waiting a few more weeks is not the end of the world. The Chinese have cracked it and are starting to rebuild.

So they say.

 

[kyzr]

Being broke is better than being dead. Trump is taking an enormous gamble with peoples lives.

If the nation breaks they will soon be dead anyway.

500 is nothing. Not even a blip.

I believe the choice will come down to this: Either we re-flip the ON switch and take our chances with the treatments currently available, or we spend the rest of our lives ekeing out a life in a third-world shithole.

The death toll from that will be incomprehensible.

Waiting a few more weeks is not the end of the world. The Chinese have cracked it and are starting to rebuild. We can do it as well if we are sensible.

We're not saying to open everything at once. Just that offices may open with a limited staff, golf courses, stores with limits on shoppers, etc. We need to start opening things up to get the economy up from 60% to maybe 90%. Keep schools closed, sports venues closed, all social gatherings and crowds prohibited.

 

[Dragonlady]

Trump dismisses all expert advice and vows to reopen America | ITV News

Americans are bracing for the coronavirus hurricane to strike in the coming few weeks. So what is President Trump’s response? | ITV National News

www.itv.com

The President delivered a bizarre and erratic performance from the White House podium on Monday night.
Well, more than erratic. Alarming.
Americans are bracing for the coronavirus hurricane to strike with full intensity in the coming few weeks.
Already the death toll is over 500.
And it’s expected to increase rapidly over the next few days, with New York the national hotspot.
So what is President Trump’s response?
In rambling comments that defy the global consensus he is suggesting that he might soon lift some of the restrictions being imposed on citizens and businesses.
Yes, you read that correctly. Lift the restrictions.

Its certainly a bold move. I think he is gambling that it will work out and he will have saved the world. But the evidence from around the world is that lockdowns work and that this will cause the disease to spread further. He is playing politics with peoples lives.A Rubicon moment indeed.

You gave the game away on your little thread about your chance to nationalize the British railroads, Tommy.

We know your game. "Never let a crisis go to waste".

You lose, now crawl back into your hole

You're an idiot. No one is wanting to nationalize the British Railroads, especially not the Brits. But once again you prove that "better dead than red" is alive and well in what passes for the minds of idiot right wingers.

 

[Polishprince]

Being broke is better than being dead. Trump is taking an enormous gamble with peoples lives.

If the nation breaks they will soon be dead anyway.

500 is nothing. Not even a blip.

I believe the choice will come down to this: Either we re-flip the ON switch and take our chances with the treatments currently available, or we spend the rest of our lives ekeing out a life in a third-world shithole.

The death toll from that will be incomprehensible.

Waiting a few more weeks is not the end of the world. The Chinese have cracked it and are starting to rebuild. We can do it as well if we are sensible.

People need to plan. The people will be cool with it if they know they can go back to work by 1 April or even 10 April. They can get enough booze to go on a bender for that length of time and be ready to work at the appointed time. But the idea of an indefinite situation isn't going to work.

 

[Dragonlady]

Being broke is better than being dead. Trump is taking an enormous gamble with peoples lives.

If the nation breaks they will soon be dead anyway.

500 is nothing. Not even a blip.

I believe the choice will come down to this: Either we re-flip the ON switch and take our chances with the treatments currently available, or we spend the rest of our lives ekeing out a life in a third-world shithole.

The death toll from that will be incomprehensible.

Waiting a few more weeks is not the end of the world. The Chinese have cracked it and are starting to rebuild. We can do it as well if we are sensible.

We're not saying to open everything at once. Just that offices may open with a limited staff, golf courses, stores with limits on shoppers, etc. We need to start opening things up to get the economy up from 60% to maybe 90%. Keep schools closed, sports venues closed, all social gatherings and crowds prohibited.

You can't do half measures. You're either isolating yourself or you're not. Golf courses, and any non-essential activities should be eliminated for a time. You can either shut it down for a period now, or you will be dealing with this virus for a year or more as it gets passed around and back and forth, and people build an immunity to it. But your death toll will be enormous, and as they're seeing in New York, it's not just the elderly who are ending up in hospital.

 

[Polishprince]

Trump dismisses all expert advice and vows to reopen America | ITV News

Americans are bracing for the coronavirus hurricane to strike in the coming few weeks. So what is President Trump’s response? | ITV National News

www.itv.com

The President delivered a bizarre and erratic performance from the White House podium on Monday night.
Well, more than erratic. Alarming.
Americans are bracing for the coronavirus hurricane to strike with full intensity in the coming few weeks.
Already the death toll is over 500.
And it’s expected to increase rapidly over the next few days, with New York the national hotspot.
So what is President Trump’s response?
In rambling comments that defy the global consensus he is suggesting that he might soon lift some of the restrictions being imposed on citizens and businesses.
Yes, you read that correctly. Lift the restrictions.

Its certainly a bold move. I think he is gambling that it will work out and he will have saved the world. But the evidence from around the world is that lockdowns work and that this will cause the disease to spread further. He is playing politics with peoples lives.A Rubicon moment indeed.

You gave the game away on your little thread about your chance to nationalize the British railroads, Tommy.

We know your game. "Never let a crisis go to waste".

You lose, now crawl back into your hole

You're an idiot. No one is wanting to nationalize the British Railroads, especially not the Brits. But once again you prove that "better dead than red" is alive and well in what passes for the minds of idiot right wingers.

Libs want to nationalize everything. They look at President Un in The Liberal Utopia of North Korea with envy.

The crazy thing is that Un is actually living it, and he knows it isn't a sustainable situation.