A question about hamas to the pro pal lovers

[toastman]

P F Tinmore, et al,

You keep forgetting.

Uhhh, Britain conquered the Ottoman Empire in WW1. They were placed in foreign territory thay may or may not have been hostile. Not to mention they are thousands of miles away from Britain. So of course they had an army ! What a ridiculous thing to say. They were stationed purely for defensive reasons.

There was no more Ottoman Empire. Palestine was not enemy territory.

(COMMENT)

The name "Palestine" in 1922 was the short title for the territories subject to the Mandate of Palestine.

• The limits of this Order are the territories to which the Mandate for Palestine applies, hereinafter described as Palestine. - See more at: Mandate for Palestine - The Palestine Order in LoN Council - Mandatory order 10 August 1922

The name "Palestine" today means:

• the designation "Palestine" should be used in place of the designation "Palestine Liberation Organization" in the United Nations system,

Most Respectfully,
R

Of course none of that matters.

2. Reaffirms the legitimacy of the struggle of peoples for independence, territorial integrity, national unity and liberation from colonial and foreign domination and foreign occupation by all available means, particularly armed struggle;

3. Reaffirms the inalienable right of the peoples of Namibia and Zimbabwe, of the Palestinian people and of all peoples under alien and colonial domination to self-determination, national independence, territorial integrity, and national unity and sovereignty without external interference;

10. Strongly condemns all Governments which do not recognize the right of self-determination and independence of all peoples still under colonial and foreign domination and alien subjugation, notably the peoples of Africa and the Palestinian people;

A RES 33 24 of 29 November 1978​

Actually, what he posted does matter because it was a direct response to your post where you make Palestine out to be more than it really was. Your response to that is always the same crap that you just posted now.

By "same crap" do you mean actual UN documents?

No, by same crap I mean you always use the same quote when it has no merit in the debate. It's like an addiction.

 

[toastman]

P F Tinmore, et al,

Nothing can justify terrorism — ever.
No grievance, no goal, no cause can excuse terrorist acts.
UN Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon ​

Don't try to use a good ideal --- just to twist it to your advantage and justify Palestinian Barbarity.

Most Respectfully,
R

"liberation from colonial and foreign domination and foreign occupation by all available means, particularly armed struggle;"

That just a Palestinian excuse to murder Israelis.

 

[P F Tinmore]

P F Tinmore, et al,

Nothing can justify terrorism — ever.
No grievance, no goal, no cause can excuse terrorist acts.
UN Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon ​

Don't try to use a good ideal --- just to twist it to your advantage and justify Palestinian Barbarity.

Most Respectfully,
R

"liberation from colonial and foreign domination and foreign occupation by all available means, particularly armed struggle;"

That just a Palestinian excuse to murder Israelis.

It is Israel's war it can stop it any time it wants.

 

[theliq]

Given the well known fact that hamas is a scumbag org that severely oppresses the people of gaza, how come the pro pal defenders here never seem to complain about them? How come they never seem to have any comments taking hamas to task for not governing gaza in a professional, efficient manner?

Simple. The enemy of the anti-Israel cabal is their friend. Thus Hamas gets a pass from the haters.

Considering,Israel and the US supported Hamas against Arafat and gave them arms and money......why do you complain,you are responsible in the first place......later YOU Israel and the US......wanted fair and open elections for Gaza and the West Bank....which the Palestinians DID,even your own scutineers acknowledge to be fact......the Gazan Palestinians voted for Hamas.....so you got what you asked for..........I don't know about Hamas personally but as things have turned out with the Right Wing Palestinian Hating Rabids......the Palestinians may really need Hamas......You silly Sod...You bleat now,but You ASKED FOR IT........DIDN'T YA...............

 

[toastman]

P F Tinmore, et al,

Yes, this is a very famous "quote" used by the Hostile Arab-Palestinian.

P F Tinmore, et al,

Nothing can justify terrorism — ever.
No grievance, no goal, no cause can excuse terrorist acts.
UN Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon ​

Don't try to use a good ideal --- just to twist it to your advantage and justify Palestinian Barbarity.

Most Respectfully,
R

"liberation from colonial and foreign domination and foreign occupation by all available means, particularly armed struggle;"

(COMMENT)

Just remember, that:

Convention (IV) relative to the Protection of Civilian Persons in Time of War. Geneva, 12 August 1949.
Penal legislation. V. Penalties. Death penalty

• 
  ARTICLE 68 [ Link ]
  
  Protected persons who commit an offence which is solely intended to harm the Occupying Power, but which does not constitute an attempt on the life or limb of members of the occupying forces or administration, nor a grave collective danger, nor seriously damage the property of the occupying forces or administration or the installations used by them, shall be liable to internment or simple imprisonment, provided the duration of such internment or imprisonment is proportionate to the offence committed. Furthermore, internment or imprisonment shall, for such offences, be the only measure adopted for depriving protected persons of liberty. The courts provided for under Article 66 [ Link ] of the present Convention may at their discretion convert a sentence of imprisonment to one of internment for the same period.
  The penal provisions promulgated by the Occupying Power in accordance with Articles 64 [ Link ] and 65 [ Link ] may impose the death penalty on a protected person only in cases where the person is guilty of espionage, of serious acts of sabotage against the military installations of the Occupying Power or of intentional offences which have caused the death of one or more persons, provided that such offences were punishable by death under the law of the occupied territory in force before the occupation began.
  The death penalty may not be pronounced against a protected person unless the attention of the court has been particularly called to the fact that since the accused is not a national of the Occupying Power, he is not bound to it by any duty of allegiance.
  In any case, the death penalty may not be pronounced against a protected person who was under eighteen years of age at the time of the offence.

Just remember that S/RES/1373 (2001):

Reaffirming the need to combat by all means, in accordance with the Charter of the United Nations, threats to international peace and security caused by terrorist acts,

1. Decides that all States shall:

(a) Prevent and suppress the financing of terrorist acts;
(b) Criminalize the wilful provision or collection, by any means, directly or indirectly, of funds by their nationals or in their territories with the intention that the funds should be used, or in the knowledge that they are to be used, in order to carry out terrorist acts;​

2. Decides also that all States shall:

(a) Refrain from providing any form of support, active or passive, to entities or persons involved in terrorist acts, including by suppressing recruitment of members of terrorist groups and eliminating the supply of weapons to terrorists;
(b) Take the necessary steps to prevent the commission of terrorist acts, including by provision of early warning to other States by exchange of information;
(c) Deny safe haven to those who finance, plan, support, or commit terrorist acts, or provide safe havens;
(d) Prevent those who finance, plan, facilitate or commit terrorist acts from using their respective territories for those purposes against other States or their citizens;
(e) Ensure that any person who participates in the financing, planning, preparation or perpetration of terrorist acts or in supporting terrorist acts is brought to justice and ensure that, in addition to any other measures against them, such terrorist acts are established as serious criminal offences in domestic laws and regulations and that the punishment duly reflects the seriousness of such terrorist acts;
(f) Afford one another the greatest measure of assistance in connection with criminal investigations or criminal proceedings relating to the financing or support of terrorist acts, including assistance in obtaining evidence in their possession necessary for the proceedings;
(g) Prevent the movement of terrorists or terrorist groups by effective border controls and controls on issuance of identity papers and travel documents, and through measures for preventing counterfeiting, forgery or fraudulent use of identity papers and travel documents;
​

The General Assembly Resolution A RES 33 24 of 29 November 1978 was never intended to grant permission to the Hostile Arab-Palestinian free reign to run loose and spread havoc. It is not a license for people like you to incite armed aggression, terrorism, insurgency and guerilla warfare on a regional scale.

Most Respectfully,
R

Terrorist is an Israeli propaganda campaign.

100% false. There are many countries, including the entire EU, that consider Hamas to be terrorists. Why ? Because that's what they are.

 

[theliq]

Given the well known fact that hamas is a scumbag org that severely oppresses the people of gaza, how come the pro pal defenders here never seem to complain about them? How come they never seem to have any comments taking hamas to task for not governing gaza in a professional, efficient manner?

Simple. The enemy of the anti-Israel cabal is their friend. Thus Hamas gets a pass from the haters.

Considering,Israel and the US supported Hamas against Arafat and gave them arms and money......why do you complain,you are responsible in the first place......later YOU Israel and the US......wanted fair and open elections for Gaza and the West Bank....which the Palestinians DID,even your own scutineers acknowledge to be fact......the Gazan Palestinians voted for Hamas.....so you got what you asked for..........I don't know about Hamas personally but as things have turned out with the Right Wing Palestinian Hating Rabids......the Palestinians may really need Hamas......You silly Sod...You bleat now,but You ASKED FOR IT........DIDN'T YA...............

HUMBLE I AM NOT.....JUST RIGHT ALL THE TIME

 

[theliq]

P F Tinmore, et al,

Yes, this is a very famous "quote" used by the Hostile Arab-Palestinian.

P F Tinmore, et al,

Nothing can justify terrorism — ever.
No grievance, no goal, no cause can excuse terrorist acts.
UN Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon ​

Don't try to use a good ideal --- just to twist it to your advantage and justify Palestinian Barbarity.

Most Respectfully,
R

"liberation from colonial and foreign domination and foreign occupation by all available means, particularly armed struggle;"

(COMMENT)

Just remember, that:

Convention (IV) relative to the Protection of Civilian Persons in Time of War. Geneva, 12 August 1949.
Penal legislation. V. Penalties. Death penalty

• 
  ARTICLE 68 [ Link ]
  
  Protected persons who commit an offence which is solely intended to harm the Occupying Power, but which does not constitute an attempt on the life or limb of members of the occupying forces or administration, nor a grave collective danger, nor seriously damage the property of the occupying forces or administration or the installations used by them, shall be liable to internment or simple imprisonment, provided the duration of such internment or imprisonment is proportionate to the offence committed. Furthermore, internment or imprisonment shall, for such offences, be the only measure adopted for depriving protected persons of liberty. The courts provided for under Article 66 [ Link ] of the present Convention may at their discretion convert a sentence of imprisonment to one of internment for the same period.
  The penal provisions promulgated by the Occupying Power in accordance with Articles 64 [ Link ] and 65 [ Link ] may impose the death penalty on a protected person only in cases where the person is guilty of espionage, of serious acts of sabotage against the military installations of the Occupying Power or of intentional offences which have caused the death of one or more persons, provided that such offences were punishable by death under the law of the occupied territory in force before the occupation began.
  The death penalty may not be pronounced against a protected person unless the attention of the court has been particularly called to the fact that since the accused is not a national of the Occupying Power, he is not bound to it by any duty of allegiance.
  In any case, the death penalty may not be pronounced against a protected person who was under eighteen years of age at the time of the offence.

Just remember that S/RES/1373 (2001):

Reaffirming the need to combat by all means, in accordance with the Charter of the United Nations, threats to international peace and security caused by terrorist acts,

1. Decides that all States shall:

(a) Prevent and suppress the financing of terrorist acts;
(b) Criminalize the wilful provision or collection, by any means, directly or indirectly, of funds by their nationals or in their territories with the intention that the funds should be used, or in the knowledge that they are to be used, in order to carry out terrorist acts;​

2. Decides also that all States shall:

(a) Refrain from providing any form of support, active or passive, to entities or persons involved in terrorist acts, including by suppressing recruitment of members of terrorist groups and eliminating the supply of weapons to terrorists;
(b) Take the necessary steps to prevent the commission of terrorist acts, including by provision of early warning to other States by exchange of information;
(c) Deny safe haven to those who finance, plan, support, or commit terrorist acts, or provide safe havens;
(d) Prevent those who finance, plan, facilitate or commit terrorist acts from using their respective territories for those purposes against other States or their citizens;
(e) Ensure that any person who participates in the financing, planning, preparation or perpetration of terrorist acts or in supporting terrorist acts is brought to justice and ensure that, in addition to any other measures against them, such terrorist acts are established as serious criminal offences in domestic laws and regulations and that the punishment duly reflects the seriousness of such terrorist acts;
(f) Afford one another the greatest measure of assistance in connection with criminal investigations or criminal proceedings relating to the financing or support of terrorist acts, including assistance in obtaining evidence in their possession necessary for the proceedings;
(g) Prevent the movement of terrorists or terrorist groups by effective border controls and controls on issuance of identity papers and travel documents, and through measures for preventing counterfeiting, forgery or fraudulent use of identity papers and travel documents;
​

The General Assembly Resolution A RES 33 24 of 29 November 1978 was never intended to grant permission to the Hostile Arab-Palestinian free reign to run loose and spread havoc. It is not a license for people like you to incite armed aggression, terrorism, insurgency and guerilla warfare on a regional scale.

Most Respectfully,
R

Terrorist is an Israeli propaganda campaign.

100% false. There are many countries, including the entire EU, that consider Hamas to be terrorists. Why ? Because that's what they are.

The SAME for the ZIONIST TOO.......steve

 

[toastman]

P F Tinmore, et al,

Nothing can justify terrorism — ever.
No grievance, no goal, no cause can excuse terrorist acts.
UN Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon ​

Don't try to use a good ideal --- just to twist it to your advantage and justify Palestinian Barbarity.

Most Respectfully,
R

"liberation from colonial and foreign domination and foreign occupation by all available means, particularly armed struggle;"

That just a Palestinian excuse to murder Israelis.

It is Israel's war it can stop it any time it wants.

Load of crap. This is a Palestinian war. Israel has already won every single war in which the Palestinians participated in, yet the 'Palestinians' refuse to surrender, and prefer to remain in the position that they are in.

 

[toastman]

P F Tinmore, et al,

Yes, this is a very famous "quote" used by the Hostile Arab-Palestinian.

P F Tinmore, et al,

Nothing can justify terrorism — ever.
No grievance, no goal, no cause can excuse terrorist acts.
UN Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon ​

Don't try to use a good ideal --- just to twist it to your advantage and justify Palestinian Barbarity.

Most Respectfully,
R

"liberation from colonial and foreign domination and foreign occupation by all available means, particularly armed struggle;"

(COMMENT)

Just remember, that:

Convention (IV) relative to the Protection of Civilian Persons in Time of War. Geneva, 12 August 1949.
Penal legislation. V. Penalties. Death penalty

• 
  ARTICLE 68 [ Link ]
  
  Protected persons who commit an offence which is solely intended to harm the Occupying Power, but which does not constitute an attempt on the life or limb of members of the occupying forces or administration, nor a grave collective danger, nor seriously damage the property of the occupying forces or administration or the installations used by them, shall be liable to internment or simple imprisonment, provided the duration of such internment or imprisonment is proportionate to the offence committed. Furthermore, internment or imprisonment shall, for such offences, be the only measure adopted for depriving protected persons of liberty. The courts provided for under Article 66 [ Link ] of the present Convention may at their discretion convert a sentence of imprisonment to one of internment for the same period.
  The penal provisions promulgated by the Occupying Power in accordance with Articles 64 [ Link ] and 65 [ Link ] may impose the death penalty on a protected person only in cases where the person is guilty of espionage, of serious acts of sabotage against the military installations of the Occupying Power or of intentional offences which have caused the death of one or more persons, provided that such offences were punishable by death under the law of the occupied territory in force before the occupation began.
  The death penalty may not be pronounced against a protected person unless the attention of the court has been particularly called to the fact that since the accused is not a national of the Occupying Power, he is not bound to it by any duty of allegiance.
  In any case, the death penalty may not be pronounced against a protected person who was under eighteen years of age at the time of the offence.

Just remember that S/RES/1373 (2001):

Reaffirming the need to combat by all means, in accordance with the Charter of the United Nations, threats to international peace and security caused by terrorist acts,

1. Decides that all States shall:

(a) Prevent and suppress the financing of terrorist acts;
(b) Criminalize the wilful provision or collection, by any means, directly or indirectly, of funds by their nationals or in their territories with the intention that the funds should be used, or in the knowledge that they are to be used, in order to carry out terrorist acts;​

2. Decides also that all States shall:

(a) Refrain from providing any form of support, active or passive, to entities or persons involved in terrorist acts, including by suppressing recruitment of members of terrorist groups and eliminating the supply of weapons to terrorists;
(b) Take the necessary steps to prevent the commission of terrorist acts, including by provision of early warning to other States by exchange of information;
(c) Deny safe haven to those who finance, plan, support, or commit terrorist acts, or provide safe havens;
(d) Prevent those who finance, plan, facilitate or commit terrorist acts from using their respective territories for those purposes against other States or their citizens;
(e) Ensure that any person who participates in the financing, planning, preparation or perpetration of terrorist acts or in supporting terrorist acts is brought to justice and ensure that, in addition to any other measures against them, such terrorist acts are established as serious criminal offences in domestic laws and regulations and that the punishment duly reflects the seriousness of such terrorist acts;
(f) Afford one another the greatest measure of assistance in connection with criminal investigations or criminal proceedings relating to the financing or support of terrorist acts, including assistance in obtaining evidence in their possession necessary for the proceedings;
(g) Prevent the movement of terrorists or terrorist groups by effective border controls and controls on issuance of identity papers and travel documents, and through measures for preventing counterfeiting, forgery or fraudulent use of identity papers and travel documents;
​

The General Assembly Resolution A RES 33 24 of 29 November 1978 was never intended to grant permission to the Hostile Arab-Palestinian free reign to run loose and spread havoc. It is not a license for people like you to incite armed aggression, terrorism, insurgency and guerilla warfare on a regional scale.

Most Respectfully,
R

Terrorist is an Israeli propaganda campaign.

100% false. There are many countries, including the entire EU, that consider Hamas to be terrorists. Why ? Because that's what they are.

The SAME for the ZIONIST TOO.......steve

Steve, what did I tell you about posting when you haven't taken your meds

 

[P F Tinmore]

P F Tinmore, et al,

Nothing can justify terrorism — ever.
No grievance, no goal, no cause can excuse terrorist acts.
UN Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon ​

Don't try to use a good ideal --- just to twist it to your advantage and justify Palestinian Barbarity.

Most Respectfully,
R

"liberation from colonial and foreign domination and foreign occupation by all available means, particularly armed struggle;"

That just a Palestinian excuse to murder Israelis.

It is Israel's war it can stop it any time it wants.

Load of crap. This is a Palestinian war. Israel has already won every single war in which the Palestinians participated in, yet the 'Palestinians' refuse to surrender, and prefer to remain in the position that they are in.

Not true.

If the Zionists had not come down from Europe to take over Palestine we would not have had war for the last hundred years.

There would be no Hamas. There would be no Fatah. There would be no PLO. There would be no Islamic Jihad.

We would only have Muslims, Christians, and Jews living together like they had been for centuries.

 

[theliq]

P F Tinmore, et al,

Yes, this is a very famous "quote" used by the Hostile Arab-Palestinian.

"liberation from colonial and foreign domination and foreign occupation by all available means, particularly armed struggle;"

(COMMENT)

Just remember, that:

Convention (IV) relative to the Protection of Civilian Persons in Time of War. Geneva, 12 August 1949.
Penal legislation. V. Penalties. Death penalty

• 
  ARTICLE 68 [ Link ]
  
  Protected persons who commit an offence which is solely intended to harm the Occupying Power, but which does not constitute an attempt on the life or limb of members of the occupying forces or administration, nor a grave collective danger, nor seriously damage the property of the occupying forces or administration or the installations used by them, shall be liable to internment or simple imprisonment, provided the duration of such internment or imprisonment is proportionate to the offence committed. Furthermore, internment or imprisonment shall, for such offences, be the only measure adopted for depriving protected persons of liberty. The courts provided for under Article 66 [ Link ] of the present Convention may at their discretion convert a sentence of imprisonment to one of internment for the same period.
  The penal provisions promulgated by the Occupying Power in accordance with Articles 64 [ Link ] and 65 [ Link ] may impose the death penalty on a protected person only in cases where the person is guilty of espionage, of serious acts of sabotage against the military installations of the Occupying Power or of intentional offences which have caused the death of one or more persons, provided that such offences were punishable by death under the law of the occupied territory in force before the occupation began.
  The death penalty may not be pronounced against a protected person unless the attention of the court has been particularly called to the fact that since the accused is not a national of the Occupying Power, he is not bound to it by any duty of allegiance.
  In any case, the death penalty may not be pronounced against a protected person who was under eighteen years of age at the time of the offence.

Just remember that S/RES/1373 (2001):

Reaffirming the need to combat by all means, in accordance with the Charter of the United Nations, threats to international peace and security caused by terrorist acts,

1. Decides that all States shall:

(a) Prevent and suppress the financing of terrorist acts;
(b) Criminalize the wilful provision or collection, by any means, directly or indirectly, of funds by their nationals or in their territories with the intention that the funds should be used, or in the knowledge that they are to be used, in order to carry out terrorist acts;​

2. Decides also that all States shall:

(a) Refrain from providing any form of support, active or passive, to entities or persons involved in terrorist acts, including by suppressing recruitment of members of terrorist groups and eliminating the supply of weapons to terrorists;
(b) Take the necessary steps to prevent the commission of terrorist acts, including by provision of early warning to other States by exchange of information;
(c) Deny safe haven to those who finance, plan, support, or commit terrorist acts, or provide safe havens;
(d) Prevent those who finance, plan, facilitate or commit terrorist acts from using their respective territories for those purposes against other States or their citizens;
(e) Ensure that any person who participates in the financing, planning, preparation or perpetration of terrorist acts or in supporting terrorist acts is brought to justice and ensure that, in addition to any other measures against them, such terrorist acts are established as serious criminal offences in domestic laws and regulations and that the punishment duly reflects the seriousness of such terrorist acts;
(f) Afford one another the greatest measure of assistance in connection with criminal investigations or criminal proceedings relating to the financing or support of terrorist acts, including assistance in obtaining evidence in their possession necessary for the proceedings;
(g) Prevent the movement of terrorists or terrorist groups by effective border controls and controls on issuance of identity papers and travel documents, and through measures for preventing counterfeiting, forgery or fraudulent use of identity papers and travel documents;
​

The General Assembly Resolution A RES 33 24 of 29 November 1978 was never intended to grant permission to the Hostile Arab-Palestinian free reign to run loose and spread havoc. It is not a license for people like you to incite armed aggression, terrorism, insurgency and guerilla warfare on a regional scale.

Most Respectfully,
R

Terrorist is an Israeli propaganda campaign.

100% false. There are many countries, including the entire EU, that consider Hamas to be terrorists. Why ? Because that's what they are.

The SAME for the ZIONIST TOO.......steve

Steve, what did I tell you about posting when you haven't taken your meds

Actually Toastie "MEDS" in Australia are a product used for femme mensuration............so,as not being a Vampire,I assume you mean "medication"....well not on any..YET.......my only meds at the moment is "Facts and Truth".......as if you didn't know,had you have used your vast intellect(am I really saying this!) and enquired properly..steve You know I'm right because I always do,due diligence ............"Meds Indeed,as if"

 

[theliq]

P F Tinmore, et al,

Nothing can justify terrorism — ever.
No grievance, no goal, no cause can excuse terrorist acts.
UN Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon ​

Don't try to use a good ideal --- just to twist it to your advantage and justify Palestinian Barbarity.

Most Respectfully,
R

"liberation from colonial and foreign domination and foreign occupation by all available means, particularly armed struggle;"

That just a Palestinian excuse to murder Israelis.

It is Israel's war it can stop it any time it wants.

Load of crap. This is a Palestinian war. Israel has already won every single war in which the Palestinians participated in, yet the 'Palestinians' refuse to surrender, and prefer to remain in the position that they are in.

Not true.

If the Zionists had not come down from Europe to take over Palestine we would not have had war for the last hundred years.

There would be no Hamas. There would be no Fatah. There would be no PLO. There would be no Islamic Jihad.

We would only have Muslims, Christians, and Jews living together like they had been for centuries.

So TRUE......Big Up To Tinnie..........."Ever Living,Ever Faithful,Ever Sure"....steve

 

[toastman]

P F Tinmore, et al,

Nothing can justify terrorism — ever.
No grievance, no goal, no cause can excuse terrorist acts.
UN Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon ​

Don't try to use a good ideal --- just to twist it to your advantage and justify Palestinian Barbarity.

Most Respectfully,
R

"liberation from colonial and foreign domination and foreign occupation by all available means, particularly armed struggle;"

That just a Palestinian excuse to murder Israelis.

It is Israel's war it can stop it any time it wants.

Load of crap. This is a Palestinian war. Israel has already won every single war in which the Palestinians participated in, yet the 'Palestinians' refuse to surrender, and prefer to remain in the position that they are in.

Not true.

If the Zionists had not come down from Europe to take over Palestine we would not have had war for the last hundred years.

There would be no Hamas. There would be no Fatah. There would be no PLO. There would be no Islamic Jihad.

We would only have Muslims, Christians, and Jews living together like they had been for centuries.

Except, they didn't come for that. That's a Palestinian lie. They came to settle and create a homeland like the British promised. The hostilities started when Arabs started massacring Jews on several occasions, BEFORE any Arab was killed by a Jew and before any land was conquered during a war.
Stop reading the propaganda version of history.

 

[P F Tinmore]

"liberation from colonial and foreign domination and foreign occupation by all available means, particularly armed struggle;"

That just a Palestinian excuse to murder Israelis.

It is Israel's war it can stop it any time it wants.

Load of crap. This is a Palestinian war. Israel has already won every single war in which the Palestinians participated in, yet the 'Palestinians' refuse to surrender, and prefer to remain in the position that they are in.

Not true.

If the Zionists had not come down from Europe to take over Palestine we would not have had war for the last hundred years.

There would be no Hamas. There would be no Fatah. There would be no PLO. There would be no Islamic Jihad.

We would only have Muslims, Christians, and Jews living together like they had been for centuries.

Except, they didn't come for that. That's a Palestinian lie. They came to settle and create a homeland like the British promised. The hostilities started when Arabs started massacring Jews on several occasions, BEFORE any Arab was killed by a Jew and before any land was conquered during a war.
Stop reading the propaganda version of history.

My assessment is correct.

You cannot prove otherwise.

 

[toastman]

That just a Palestinian excuse to murder Israelis.

It is Israel's war it can stop it any time it wants.

Load of crap. This is a Palestinian war. Israel has already won every single war in which the Palestinians participated in, yet the 'Palestinians' refuse to surrender, and prefer to remain in the position that they are in.

Not true.

If the Zionists had not come down from Europe to take over Palestine we would not have had war for the last hundred years.

There would be no Hamas. There would be no Fatah. There would be no PLO. There would be no Islamic Jihad.

We would only have Muslims, Christians, and Jews living together like they had been for centuries.

Except, they didn't come for that. That's a Palestinian lie. They came to settle and create a homeland like the British promised. The hostilities started when Arabs started massacring Jews on several occasions, BEFORE any Arab was killed by a Jew and before any land was conquered during a war.
Stop reading the propaganda version of history.

My assessment is correct.

You cannot prove otherwise.

Your assessment is unrealistic, because it falls under the IF category. And the IF scenario is extremely unrealistic. .The fact remains that the hostilities were initiated by the Arabs. And the Zionists did not come to take over anything. That's a Palestinian myth.
You proved nothing, except your ignorance. Tinmore, how can you allow yourself to become so brainwashed? Snap out of it !

 

[P F Tinmore]

It is Israel's war it can stop it any time it wants.

Load of crap. This is a Palestinian war. Israel has already won every single war in which the Palestinians participated in, yet the 'Palestinians' refuse to surrender, and prefer to remain in the position that they are in.

Not true.

If the Zionists had not come down from Europe to take over Palestine we would not have had war for the last hundred years.

There would be no Hamas. There would be no Fatah. There would be no PLO. There would be no Islamic Jihad.

We would only have Muslims, Christians, and Jews living together like they had been for centuries.

Except, they didn't come for that. That's a Palestinian lie. They came to settle and create a homeland like the British promised. The hostilities started when Arabs started massacring Jews on several occasions, BEFORE any Arab was killed by a Jew and before any land was conquered during a war.
Stop reading the propaganda version of history.

My assessment is correct.

You cannot prove otherwise.

Your assessment is unrealistic, because it falls under the IF category. And the IF scenario is extremely unrealistic. .The fact remains that the hostilities were initiated by the Arabs. And the Zionists did not come to take over anything. That's a Palestinian myth.
You proved nothing, except your ignorance. Tinmore, how can you allow yourself to become so brainwashed? Snap out of it !

You can blow all the smoke you want.

I am still correct.

 

[toastman]

Load of crap. This is a Palestinian war. Israel has already won every single war in which the Palestinians participated in, yet the 'Palestinians' refuse to surrender, and prefer to remain in the position that they are in.

Not true.

If the Zionists had not come down from Europe to take over Palestine we would not have had war for the last hundred years.

There would be no Hamas. There would be no Fatah. There would be no PLO. There would be no Islamic Jihad.

We would only have Muslims, Christians, and Jews living together like they had been for centuries.

Except, they didn't come for that. That's a Palestinian lie. They came to settle and create a homeland like the British promised. The hostilities started when Arabs started massacring Jews on several occasions, BEFORE any Arab was killed by a Jew and before any land was conquered during a war.
Stop reading the propaganda version of history.

My assessment is correct.

You cannot prove otherwise.

Your assessment is unrealistic, because it falls under the IF category. And the IF scenario is extremely unrealistic. .The fact remains that the hostilities were initiated by the Arabs. And the Zionists did not come to take over anything. That's a Palestinian myth.
You proved nothing, except your ignorance. Tinmore, how can you allow yourself to become so brainwashed? Snap out of it !

You can blow all the smoke you want.

I am still correct.

All you did was give your opinion, and then said "I'm correct" . Let me try your childish tactic.


No, I'm correct.

 

[P F Tinmore]

Not true.

If the Zionists had not come down from Europe to take over Palestine we would not have had war for the last hundred years.

There would be no Hamas. There would be no Fatah. There would be no PLO. There would be no Islamic Jihad.

We would only have Muslims, Christians, and Jews living together like they had been for centuries.

Except, they didn't come for that. That's a Palestinian lie. They came to settle and create a homeland like the British promised. The hostilities started when Arabs started massacring Jews on several occasions, BEFORE any Arab was killed by a Jew and before any land was conquered during a war.
Stop reading the propaganda version of history.

My assessment is correct.

You cannot prove otherwise.

Your assessment is unrealistic, because it falls under the IF category. And the IF scenario is extremely unrealistic. .The fact remains that the hostilities were initiated by the Arabs. And the Zionists did not come to take over anything. That's a Palestinian myth.
You proved nothing, except your ignorance. Tinmore, how can you allow yourself to become so brainwashed? Snap out of it !

You can blow all the smoke you want.

I am still correct.

All you did was give your opinion, and then said "I'm correct" . Let me try your childish tactic.


No, I'm correct.

Cool, now prove me wrong.

 

[toastman]

Except, they didn't come for that. That's a Palestinian lie. They came to settle and create a homeland like the British promised. The hostilities started when Arabs started massacring Jews on several occasions, BEFORE any Arab was killed by a Jew and before any land was conquered during a war.
Stop reading the propaganda version of history.

My assessment is correct.

You cannot prove otherwise.

Your assessment is unrealistic, because it falls under the IF category. And the IF scenario is extremely unrealistic. .The fact remains that the hostilities were initiated by the Arabs. And the Zionists did not come to take over anything. That's a Palestinian myth.
You proved nothing, except your ignorance. Tinmore, how can you allow yourself to become so brainwashed? Snap out of it !

You can blow all the smoke you want.

I am still correct.

All you did was give your opinion, and then said "I'm correct" . Let me try your childish tactic.


No, I'm correct.

Cool, now prove me wrong.

You have the worst debating skills I've ever seen Tinmore. In order for someone to prove your assessment to be wrong, you have to prove it to be correct first .

You posted an "if this and this didn't happen, then". It doesn't work like that. We don't know how things would have worked out ih this happened but that didn't. It's common sense.

 

[P F Tinmore]

My assessment is correct.

You cannot prove otherwise.

Your assessment is unrealistic, because it falls under the IF category. And the IF scenario is extremely unrealistic. .The fact remains that the hostilities were initiated by the Arabs. And the Zionists did not come to take over anything. That's a Palestinian myth.
You proved nothing, except your ignorance. Tinmore, how can you allow yourself to become so brainwashed? Snap out of it !

You can blow all the smoke you want.

I am still correct.

All you did was give your opinion, and then said "I'm correct" . Let me try your childish tactic.


No, I'm correct.

Cool, now prove me wrong.

You have the worst debating skills I've ever seen Tinmore. In order for someone to prove your assessment to be wrong, you have to prove it to be correct first .

You posted an "if this and this didn't happen, then". It doesn't work like that. We don't know how things would have worked out ih this happened but that didn't. It's common sense.

I am merely following a trend. If something is consistent for a few hundred years, why would the next hundred years be different?