A question about hamas to the pro pal lovers

Your assessment is unrealistic, because it falls under the IF category. And the IF scenario is extremely unrealistic. .The fact remains that the hostilities were initiated by the Arabs. And the Zionists did not come to take over anything. That's a Palestinian myth.
You proved nothing, except your ignorance. Tinmore, how can you allow yourself to become so brainwashed? Snap out of it !
You can blow all the smoke you want.

I am still correct.

All you did was give your opinion, and then said "I'm correct" . Let me try your childish tactic.


No, I'm correct.
Cool, now prove me wrong.
You have the worst debating skills I've ever seen Tinmore. In order for someone to prove your assessment to be wrong, you have to prove it to be correct first .

You posted an "if this and this didn't happen, then". It doesn't work like that. We don't know how things would have worked out ih this happened but that didn't. It's common sense.
I am merely following a trend. If something is consistent for a few hundred years, why would the next hundred years be different?

You're going to have to elaborate
 
Hamas is a Zionist conspiracy. They don't exist.

Hell, even Zionists are a Zionist conspiracy.
 
All these people who "need" links.

What will happen if they don't get them? Do they ever specify that?



They will just ignore those who don't produce the evidence of their LIES


You are really quite psychotic, aren't you Phoney.
I suppose you find a lot of people conclude that. Do you have trouble forming relationships. In the real world as well as on line, that is?


No problems at all, and if being aware of what is really happening is being psychotic then more people should be psychotic. But typical looney left reply when they are placed on the spot, ask your new found friends how they defend child rape ?
 
Should Palestinian children be taught to love the people that massacred or ethnically cleansed their great grand parents from their land and homes?

We knew that you condone teaching hate to Palestinians children. You are a sick twisted person

You did not answer the question. Should Palestinian be taught to love the Jews who massacred or ethnically cleansed their great grand parents from their land and homes?
First off, wheres your proof that most of the British were killed by Jews?

Second, the Arabs are the ones who instigated everything by massacring Jews before any Arab was killed. Must I post those links again ? Immigrating to a place where you were invited is not instigating and no land was stolen BEFORE Jews were massacred.
You're a liar.

Firstly,

You are certainly ignorant of the facts, but I shouldn't be surprised with the nonsense you post. I hardly ever use Wiki, but sense nearly everyone knows that the Jew terrorists were the ones that targeted both the British and the Arab Christians and Muslims I will use it here. (The Christians and Muslims did not target the British normally.) Note; The Survey of Palestine has much more detailed reports of the Jew Terrorism, but I will wait for the usual denial before I take out the big guns. LOL

"Britain increasingly began to see its attempts to suppress the Jewish insurgency as a costly and futile exercise, and its resolve began to weaken. British security forces, which were constantly taking casualties, were unable to suppress the insurgents due to their hit-and-run tactics, poor intelligence, and a non-cooperative civilian population. The insurgents were also making the country ungovernable; the King David hotel bombing resulted in the deaths of a large number of civil servants and the loss of many documents, devastating the mandatory administration, while IED attacks on British vehicles began to limit the British Army's freedom of movement throughout the country. The Acre Prison break and the floggings and hangings of British soldiers by the Irgun humiliated the British authorities and further demonstrated their failure to control the situation. At the same time, attacks carried out on economic targets cost Britain almost £2 million in economic damage; meanwhile, Britain was paying about £40 million a year to keep its troops in Palestine, while at the same time the country was going through a deep economic crisis as a result of World War II, with widespread power cuts and strict rationing, and was heavily dependent on American economic aid. There were also indications, such as several successful bombings in London and the letter-bombing campaign against British politicians, that the insurgents were beginning to take the war home to Britain. "

Jewish insurgency in Palestine - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia


Secondly, how can the Christians or Muslims be accused of instigating anything when European Jews were the ones that went to another continent with the intention of taking the land away from the Christian and Muslims that lived there and create a Jewish state on the land the Christians and Muslims owned and were living on. Do you even realize how ridiculous you sound? It's like saying the Europeans instigated the conflict with the Native Americans. You really don't get how ridiculous and illogical your position is.

First off, your link did not back up your claim that Jews killed more British than Arab terrorists.

Second, the way they can be accused of instigating anything is because they DID instigate EVERYTHING by massacring Jews BEFORE (key word here is BEFORE) ANY land was taken and before any Arab was killed.
The European Jews went to Mandatory Palestine because of the British promise that they would eventually be able to make a homeland for themselves and escape anti Semitism that they were enduring in Europe. It's that simple. You are basically saying that the Arabs had permission to massacre and attack anyone who came to the region because they want to.
Immigrating to the region is not an instigation. I'm not saying the Arabs didn't have the right to protest it, but they certainly, without doubt, were the ones who instigated the violence, and that's not up for debate.

Try to find a similar list of Christian or Muslim attacks against the British. Or a case of Christians or Muslims killing a British minister or UN negotiator. You provide no links for anything you just deny you jerk.
  • 1937–1939 The Irgun conducted a campaign of violence against Palestinian Arab civilians resulting in the deaths of at least 250.[citation needed]
  • July 15, 1938* A bomb left in the vegetable market in Jerusalem by the Irgun injured 28[31]
  • July 25, 1938* The Irgun threw a bomb into the melon market in Haifa resulting in 49 deaths[32]
  • November 6, 1944 Lehi assassinated British minister Lord Moyne in Cairo, Egypt. The action was condemned by the Yishuv at the time, but the bodies of the assassins was brought home from Egypt in 1975 to a state funeral and burial on Mount Herzl.[citation needed]
  • 1944–1945 The killings of several suspected collaborators with the Haganah and the British mandate government during the Hunting Season.
  • 1946' Letter bombs sent to British officials, including foreign minister Ernst Bevin, by Lehi
  • July 26, 1946 The bombing of British administrative headquarters at the King David Hotel, killing 91 people — 28 British, 41 Arab, 17 Jewish, and 5 others. Around 45 people were injured.
  • 1946 Railways and British military airfields were attacked several times.
  • October 31, 1946 The bombing by the Irgun of the British Embassy in Rome. Nearly half the building was destroyed and 3 people were injured.[33]
  • April 1947* An Irgun bomb placed at the Colonial Office in London failed to detonate.[34]
  • July 25, 1947 The Sergeants affair: When death sentences were passed on two Irgun members, the Irgun kidnapped Sgt. Clifford Martin and Sgt. Mervyn Paice and threatened to kill them in retaliation if the sentences were carried out. When the threat was ignored, the hostages were killed. Afterwards, their bodies were taken to an orange grove and left hanging by the neck from trees. An improvised explosive device was set. This went off when one of the bodies was cut down, seriously wounding a British officer.[35]
  • December 1947 – March 1948 Numerous attacks on Palestinian Arabs in the context of civil war after the vote of the United Nations Partition Plan for Palestine
  • '1947 Letter bombs sent to the Truman White House by Lehi
  • January 5–6, 1948 The Semiramis Hotel bombing, carried out by the Haganah (or, according to some sources, Irgun) resulted in the deaths of 24 to 26 people
  • April 1948 The Deir Yassin massacre carried out by the Irgun and Lehi, killed between 107 and 120 Palestinian villagers,[36] the estimate generally accepted by scholars.[37][38]
  • September 17, 1948 Lehi assassination of the United Nations mediator Folke Bernadotte, negotiator of the release of about 31,000 prisoners (including thousands of Jews from Nazi concentration camps during World War II),[39][40] whom Lehi accused of a pro-Arab stance during the cease-fire negotiations.
Zionist political violence - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

European Jews went to Palestine with the intention of taking land and creating a Jewish state at the expense of the Christians and Muslims. You can't get around that you idiot. That was the provocation that started the conflict.




LINK to your ISLAMONAZI LIES that the European Jews went to Palestine with the intention of stealing land

What were the Zionists intending to do? Have a picnic?




RESURECT THE NATIONAL HOME OF THE JEWS as they were promised and to live peacefully with their neighbours. Seems the neighbours did not want peace and chose war instead, and ended up getting their butts kicked everytime.
 
So, as stated. The European Jews arrived and settled and the local people resisted their settlement. It is no different than the British settling Jamestown or Manhattan. Why can't you get it through your thick head that the act of coming from Europe and settling in Palestine was the initial act of aggression.



And the Jews were invited to settle, the arab muslims were not, and as your own links showed the vast majority of arab muslims were illegal immigrants

My links show that nearly all the immigrants were Jews, why do you lie so much? As depicted below of the total 414,456 immigrants (legal and illegal) that went to Palestine from 1920 to 1946, 376,415 were Jews and only 38,041 were non-Jews. This incessant lying is a sign of some sort of psychosis. Or, do you figure no one will call you on it?

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Actually they don't all they show is the legal and counted immigration not the illegal and uncounted immigration. Try looking at the demographics and explain the 1500 surviving births in every 1000 that you keep ignoring. ( best practise for the area was less than 50 in every 1000 )
 
Should Palestinian children be taught to love the people that massacred or ethnically cleansed their great grand parents from their land and homes?

We knew that you condone teaching hate to Palestinians children. You are a sick twisted person

You did not answer the question. Should Palestinian be taught to love the Jews who massacred or ethnically cleansed their great grand parents from their land and homes?
First off, your link did not back up your claim that Jews killed more British than Arab terrorists.

Second, the way they can be accused of instigating anything is because they DID instigate EVERYTHING by massacring Jews BEFORE (key word here is BEFORE) ANY land was taken and before any Arab was killed.
The European Jews went to Mandatory Palestine because of the British promise that they would eventually be able to make a homeland for themselves and escape anti Semitism that they were enduring in Europe. It's that simple. You are basically saying that the Arabs had permission to massacre and attack anyone who came to the region because they want to.
Immigrating to the region is not an instigation. I'm not saying the Arabs didn't have the right to protest it, but they certainly, without doubt, were the ones who instigated the violence, and that's not up for debate.

Try to find a similar list of Christian or Muslim attacks against the British. Or a case of Christians or Muslims killing a British minister or UN negotiator. You provide no links for anything you just deny you jerk.
  • 1937–1939 The Irgun conducted a campaign of violence against Palestinian Arab civilians resulting in the deaths of at least 250.[citation needed]
  • July 15, 1938* A bomb left in the vegetable market in Jerusalem by the Irgun injured 28[31]
  • July 25, 1938* The Irgun threw a bomb into the melon market in Haifa resulting in 49 deaths[32]
  • November 6, 1944 Lehi assassinated British minister Lord Moyne in Cairo, Egypt. The action was condemned by the Yishuv at the time, but the bodies of the assassins was brought home from Egypt in 1975 to a state funeral and burial on Mount Herzl.[citation needed]
  • 1944–1945 The killings of several suspected collaborators with the Haganah and the British mandate government during the Hunting Season.
  • 1946' Letter bombs sent to British officials, including foreign minister Ernst Bevin, by Lehi
  • July 26, 1946 The bombing of British administrative headquarters at the King David Hotel, killing 91 people — 28 British, 41 Arab, 17 Jewish, and 5 others. Around 45 people were injured.
  • 1946 Railways and British military airfields were attacked several times.
  • October 31, 1946 The bombing by the Irgun of the British Embassy in Rome. Nearly half the building was destroyed and 3 people were injured.[33]
  • April 1947* An Irgun bomb placed at the Colonial Office in London failed to detonate.[34]
  • July 25, 1947 The Sergeants affair: When death sentences were passed on two Irgun members, the Irgun kidnapped Sgt. Clifford Martin and Sgt. Mervyn Paice and threatened to kill them in retaliation if the sentences were carried out. When the threat was ignored, the hostages were killed. Afterwards, their bodies were taken to an orange grove and left hanging by the neck from trees. An improvised explosive device was set. This went off when one of the bodies was cut down, seriously wounding a British officer.[35]
  • December 1947 – March 1948 Numerous attacks on Palestinian Arabs in the context of civil war after the vote of the United Nations Partition Plan for Palestine
  • '1947 Letter bombs sent to the Truman White House by Lehi
  • January 5–6, 1948 The Semiramis Hotel bombing, carried out by the Haganah (or, according to some sources, Irgun) resulted in the deaths of 24 to 26 people
  • April 1948 The Deir Yassin massacre carried out by the Irgun and Lehi, killed between 107 and 120 Palestinian villagers,[36] the estimate generally accepted by scholars.[37][38]
  • September 17, 1948 Lehi assassination of the United Nations mediator Folke Bernadotte, negotiator of the release of about 31,000 prisoners (including thousands of Jews from Nazi concentration camps during World War II),[39][40] whom Lehi accused of a pro-Arab stance during the cease-fire negotiations.
Zionist political violence - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

European Jews went to Palestine with the intention of taking land and creating a Jewish state at the expense of the Christians and Muslims. You can't get around that you idiot. That was the provocation that started the conflict.




LINK to your ISLAMONAZI LIES that the European Jews went to Palestine with the intention of stealing land

What were the Zionists intending to do? Have a picnic?

It's not about what they should be taught. It's about what they shouldn't be taught. Your question is , like you, incredibly stupid.

They should not be taught to hate the people who killed thousands of their forefathers and continue to kill their brothers and sisters by the thousands on a regular basis to this day? Do you think that Jewish children in Israel are taught to love the Nazis?
Why do you call posters that are demonstrably far smarter than you, stupid?




Does this mean that the west should be taught to hate muslims to the point of death because they massacred tens of millions of their ancestors in the most barbaric and brutal ways possible. I see one has lost his appeal against full life sentence and it took the Judge 45 seconds to tell him he will spend 60 years in prison and die there.
 
Should Palestinian children be taught to love the people that massacred or ethnically cleansed their great grand parents from their land and homes?

We knew that you condone teaching hate to Palestinians children. You are a sick twisted person

You did not answer the question. Should Palestinian be taught to love the Jews who massacred or ethnically cleansed their great grand parents from their land and homes?
First off, your link did not back up your claim that Jews killed more British than Arab terrorists.

Second, the way they can be accused of instigating anything is because they DID instigate EVERYTHING by massacring Jews BEFORE (key word here is BEFORE) ANY land was taken and before any Arab was killed.
The European Jews went to Mandatory Palestine because of the British promise that they would eventually be able to make a homeland for themselves and escape anti Semitism that they were enduring in Europe. It's that simple. You are basically saying that the Arabs had permission to massacre and attack anyone who came to the region because they want to.
Immigrating to the region is not an instigation. I'm not saying the Arabs didn't have the right to protest it, but they certainly, without doubt, were the ones who instigated the violence, and that's not up for debate.

Try to find a similar list of Christian or Muslim attacks against the British. Or a case of Christians or Muslims killing a British minister or UN negotiator. You provide no links for anything you just deny you jerk.
  • 1937–1939 The Irgun conducted a campaign of violence against Palestinian Arab civilians resulting in the deaths of at least 250.[citation needed]
  • July 15, 1938* A bomb left in the vegetable market in Jerusalem by the Irgun injured 28[31]
  • July 25, 1938* The Irgun threw a bomb into the melon market in Haifa resulting in 49 deaths[32]
  • November 6, 1944 Lehi assassinated British minister Lord Moyne in Cairo, Egypt. The action was condemned by the Yishuv at the time, but the bodies of the assassins was brought home from Egypt in 1975 to a state funeral and burial on Mount Herzl.[citation needed]
  • 1944–1945 The killings of several suspected collaborators with the Haganah and the British mandate government during the Hunting Season.
  • 1946' Letter bombs sent to British officials, including foreign minister Ernst Bevin, by Lehi
  • July 26, 1946 The bombing of British administrative headquarters at the King David Hotel, killing 91 people — 28 British, 41 Arab, 17 Jewish, and 5 others. Around 45 people were injured.
  • 1946 Railways and British military airfields were attacked several times.
  • October 31, 1946 The bombing by the Irgun of the British Embassy in Rome. Nearly half the building was destroyed and 3 people were injured.[33]
  • April 1947* An Irgun bomb placed at the Colonial Office in London failed to detonate.[34]
  • July 25, 1947 The Sergeants affair: When death sentences were passed on two Irgun members, the Irgun kidnapped Sgt. Clifford Martin and Sgt. Mervyn Paice and threatened to kill them in retaliation if the sentences were carried out. When the threat was ignored, the hostages were killed. Afterwards, their bodies were taken to an orange grove and left hanging by the neck from trees. An improvised explosive device was set. This went off when one of the bodies was cut down, seriously wounding a British officer.[35]
  • December 1947 – March 1948 Numerous attacks on Palestinian Arabs in the context of civil war after the vote of the United Nations Partition Plan for Palestine
  • '1947 Letter bombs sent to the Truman White House by Lehi
  • January 5–6, 1948 The Semiramis Hotel bombing, carried out by the Haganah (or, according to some sources, Irgun) resulted in the deaths of 24 to 26 people
  • April 1948 The Deir Yassin massacre carried out by the Irgun and Lehi, killed between 107 and 120 Palestinian villagers,[36] the estimate generally accepted by scholars.[37][38]
  • September 17, 1948 Lehi assassination of the United Nations mediator Folke Bernadotte, negotiator of the release of about 31,000 prisoners (including thousands of Jews from Nazi concentration camps during World War II),[39][40] whom Lehi accused of a pro-Arab stance during the cease-fire negotiations.
Zionist political violence - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

European Jews went to Palestine with the intention of taking land and creating a Jewish state at the expense of the Christians and Muslims. You can't get around that you idiot. That was the provocation that started the conflict.




LINK to your ISLAMONAZI LIES that the European Jews went to Palestine with the intention of stealing land

What were the Zionists intending to do? Have a picnic?

It's not about what they should be taught. It's about what they shouldn't be taught. Your question is , like you, incredibly stupid.

They should not be taught to hate the people who killed thousands of their forefathers and continue to kill their brothers and sisters by the thousands on a regular basis to this day? Do you think that Jewish children in Israel are taught to love the Nazis?
Why do you call posters that are demonstrably far smarter than you, stupid?




Well that's you out of the equation then isn't it, as even a worm is far smarter than you.
 
Should Palestinian children be taught to love the people that massacred or ethnically cleansed their great grand parents from their land and homes?

We knew that you condone teaching hate to Palestinians children. You are a sick twisted person

You did not answer the question. Should Palestinian be taught to love the Jews who massacred or ethnically cleansed their great grand parents from their land and homes?
First off, your link did not back up your claim that Jews killed more British than Arab terrorists.

Second, the way they can be accused of instigating anything is because they DID instigate EVERYTHING by massacring Jews BEFORE (key word here is BEFORE) ANY land was taken and before any Arab was killed.
The European Jews went to Mandatory Palestine because of the British promise that they would eventually be able to make a homeland for themselves and escape anti Semitism that they were enduring in Europe. It's that simple. You are basically saying that the Arabs had permission to massacre and attack anyone who came to the region because they want to.
Immigrating to the region is not an instigation. I'm not saying the Arabs didn't have the right to protest it, but they certainly, without doubt, were the ones who instigated the violence, and that's not up for debate.

Try to find a similar list of Christian or Muslim attacks against the British. Or a case of Christians or Muslims killing a British minister or UN negotiator. You provide no links for anything you just deny you jerk.
  • 1937–1939 The Irgun conducted a campaign of violence against Palestinian Arab civilians resulting in the deaths of at least 250.[citation needed]
  • July 15, 1938* A bomb left in the vegetable market in Jerusalem by the Irgun injured 28[31]
  • July 25, 1938* The Irgun threw a bomb into the melon market in Haifa resulting in 49 deaths[32]
  • November 6, 1944 Lehi assassinated British minister Lord Moyne in Cairo, Egypt. The action was condemned by the Yishuv at the time, but the bodies of the assassins was brought home from Egypt in 1975 to a state funeral and burial on Mount Herzl.[citation needed]
  • 1944–1945 The killings of several suspected collaborators with the Haganah and the British mandate government during the Hunting Season.
  • 1946' Letter bombs sent to British officials, including foreign minister Ernst Bevin, by Lehi
  • July 26, 1946 The bombing of British administrative headquarters at the King David Hotel, killing 91 people — 28 British, 41 Arab, 17 Jewish, and 5 others. Around 45 people were injured.
  • 1946 Railways and British military airfields were attacked several times.
  • October 31, 1946 The bombing by the Irgun of the British Embassy in Rome. Nearly half the building was destroyed and 3 people were injured.[33]
  • April 1947* An Irgun bomb placed at the Colonial Office in London failed to detonate.[34]
  • July 25, 1947 The Sergeants affair: When death sentences were passed on two Irgun members, the Irgun kidnapped Sgt. Clifford Martin and Sgt. Mervyn Paice and threatened to kill them in retaliation if the sentences were carried out. When the threat was ignored, the hostages were killed. Afterwards, their bodies were taken to an orange grove and left hanging by the neck from trees. An improvised explosive device was set. This went off when one of the bodies was cut down, seriously wounding a British officer.[35]
  • December 1947 – March 1948 Numerous attacks on Palestinian Arabs in the context of civil war after the vote of the United Nations Partition Plan for Palestine
  • '1947 Letter bombs sent to the Truman White House by Lehi
  • January 5–6, 1948 The Semiramis Hotel bombing, carried out by the Haganah (or, according to some sources, Irgun) resulted in the deaths of 24 to 26 people
  • April 1948 The Deir Yassin massacre carried out by the Irgun and Lehi, killed between 107 and 120 Palestinian villagers,[36] the estimate generally accepted by scholars.[37][38]
  • September 17, 1948 Lehi assassination of the United Nations mediator Folke Bernadotte, negotiator of the release of about 31,000 prisoners (including thousands of Jews from Nazi concentration camps during World War II),[39][40] whom Lehi accused of a pro-Arab stance during the cease-fire negotiations.
Zionist political violence - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

European Jews went to Palestine with the intention of taking land and creating a Jewish state at the expense of the Christians and Muslims. You can't get around that you idiot. That was the provocation that started the conflict.




LINK to your ISLAMONAZI LIES that the European Jews went to Palestine with the intention of stealing land

What were the Zionists intending to do? Have a picnic?
Another stupid question. They went to escape anti Semitism and create a homeland for themselves, like the British had promised.

Thank you. They went to create a homeland for themselves that was already a homeland for Muslims and Christians. You don't think that the Muslims and Christians should have at least tried to prevent this from happening?




No it was already a homeland for the Jews that lived there, and they took the bull by the horns and declared independence. The Christians were being ethnically cleansed by the muslims and still are as shown by the declining numbers, yet idiots like you deny that this is going on and blame it on the Jews. You try and claim that not one Jew lived in the area before the LoN invited the Jews of the world to settle in Palestine, when the truth is the Jews were the most prevalent in the towns and cities owning most of the properties. As allways the ISLAMONAZI's see the creation of a homeland for anyone other than muslims as a reason for violence, bloodshed and terrorism and they disregard every and all treaties under their rules of kithman and taqiya until it suits their purpose. Read the Mandate terms and you will see that the muslims and Christians rights were protected. and as the state of Israel has proven they have the same rights as the Jews to citizenship and all that goes with it. It was always the arab muslims that took the rights of the Palestinians away from them when they refused to allow them to declare independence of their own. They are kept in a state of perpetual refugee status because it suits arab nationalism's propaganda, while every other refugee is absorbed into friendly nations.

You want big guns then be prepared to deal with facts from arab sources showing that they have lied repeatedly over the last 100 years about the problems in palestine
 
Should Palestinian children be taught to love the people that massacred or ethnically cleansed their great grand parents from their land and homes?

We knew that you condone teaching hate to Palestinians children. You are a sick twisted person

You did not answer the question. Should Palestinian be taught to love the Jews who massacred or ethnically cleansed their great grand parents from their land and homes?
Try to find a similar list of Christian or Muslim attacks against the British. Or a case of Christians or Muslims killing a British minister or UN negotiator. You provide no links for anything you just deny you jerk.
  • 1937–1939 The Irgun conducted a campaign of violence against Palestinian Arab civilians resulting in the deaths of at least 250.[citation needed]
  • July 15, 1938* A bomb left in the vegetable market in Jerusalem by the Irgun injured 28[31]
  • July 25, 1938* The Irgun threw a bomb into the melon market in Haifa resulting in 49 deaths[32]
  • November 6, 1944 Lehi assassinated British minister Lord Moyne in Cairo, Egypt. The action was condemned by the Yishuv at the time, but the bodies of the assassins was brought home from Egypt in 1975 to a state funeral and burial on Mount Herzl.[citation needed]
  • 1944–1945 The killings of several suspected collaborators with the Haganah and the British mandate government during the Hunting Season.
  • 1946' Letter bombs sent to British officials, including foreign minister Ernst Bevin, by Lehi
  • July 26, 1946 The bombing of British administrative headquarters at the King David Hotel, killing 91 people — 28 British, 41 Arab, 17 Jewish, and 5 others. Around 45 people were injured.
  • 1946 Railways and British military airfields were attacked several times.
  • October 31, 1946 The bombing by the Irgun of the British Embassy in Rome. Nearly half the building was destroyed and 3 people were injured.[33]
  • April 1947* An Irgun bomb placed at the Colonial Office in London failed to detonate.[34]
  • July 25, 1947 The Sergeants affair: When death sentences were passed on two Irgun members, the Irgun kidnapped Sgt. Clifford Martin and Sgt. Mervyn Paice and threatened to kill them in retaliation if the sentences were carried out. When the threat was ignored, the hostages were killed. Afterwards, their bodies were taken to an orange grove and left hanging by the neck from trees. An improvised explosive device was set. This went off when one of the bodies was cut down, seriously wounding a British officer.[35]
  • December 1947 – March 1948 Numerous attacks on Palestinian Arabs in the context of civil war after the vote of the United Nations Partition Plan for Palestine
  • '1947 Letter bombs sent to the Truman White House by Lehi
  • January 5–6, 1948 The Semiramis Hotel bombing, carried out by the Haganah (or, according to some sources, Irgun) resulted in the deaths of 24 to 26 people
  • April 1948 The Deir Yassin massacre carried out by the Irgun and Lehi, killed between 107 and 120 Palestinian villagers,[36] the estimate generally accepted by scholars.[37][38]
  • September 17, 1948 Lehi assassination of the United Nations mediator Folke Bernadotte, negotiator of the release of about 31,000 prisoners (including thousands of Jews from Nazi concentration camps during World War II),[39][40] whom Lehi accused of a pro-Arab stance during the cease-fire negotiations.
Zionist political violence - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

European Jews went to Palestine with the intention of taking land and creating a Jewish state at the expense of the Christians and Muslims. You can't get around that you idiot. That was the provocation that started the conflict.




LINK to your ISLAMONAZI LIES that the European Jews went to Palestine with the intention of stealing land

What were the Zionists intending to do? Have a picnic?
Another stupid question. They went to escape anti Semitism and create a homeland for themselves, like the British had promised.

Thank you. They went to create a homeland for themselves that was already a homeland for Muslims and Christians. You don't think that the Muslims and Christians should have at least tried to prevent this from happening?




No it was already a homeland for the Jews that lived there, and they took the bull by the horns and declared independence. The Christians were being ethnically cleansed by the muslims and still are as shown by the declining numbers, yet idiots like you deny that this is going on and blame it on the Jews. You try and claim that not one Jew lived in the area before the LoN invited the Jews of the world to settle in Palestine, when the truth is the Jews were the most prevalent in the towns and cities owning most of the properties. As allways the ISLAMONAZI's see the creation of a homeland for anyone other than muslims as a reason for violence, bloodshed and terrorism and they disregard every and all treaties under their rules of kithman and taqiya until it suits their purpose. Read the Mandate terms and you will see that the muslims and Christians rights were protected. and as the state of Israel has proven they have the same rights as the Jews to citizenship and all that goes with it. It was always the arab muslims that took the rights of the Palestinians away from them when they refused to allow them to declare independence of their own. They are kept in a state of perpetual refugee status because it suits arab nationalism's propaganda, while every other refugee is absorbed into friendly nations.

You want big guns then be prepared to deal with facts from arab sources showing that they have lied repeatedly over the last 100 years about the problems in palestine
Your summation Phoenall is misguided and incorrect...........in the mid 20th Century Jews were in the minority both in land ownership and population......prior to the Illegals......Jews and Palestinians got on very well.........The Palestinians and Jews treated each other with respect......but the drive for Stateship created this schism.......but Jews are not united on many fronts actually....it is only in the last 25 years that the Right Wing have loaded Israel up with their ilk.......that is why secular Jews are leaving Israel in droves,you realise at this rate,Israel will be left with just the flotsham and jetsome of archaich Jews whos minds are back in the Dark Ages.....Modern Israel will be a thing of the past
 
We knew that you condone teaching hate to Palestinians children. You are a sick twisted person

You did not answer the question. Should Palestinian be taught to love the Jews who massacred or ethnically cleansed their great grand parents from their land and homes?
LINK to your ISLAMONAZI LIES that the European Jews went to Palestine with the intention of stealing land

What were the Zionists intending to do? Have a picnic?
Another stupid question. They went to escape anti Semitism and create a homeland for themselves, like the British had promised.

Thank you. They went to create a homeland for themselves that was already a homeland for Muslims and Christians. You don't think that the Muslims and Christians should have at least tried to prevent this from happening?




No it was already a homeland for the Jews that lived there, and they took the bull by the horns and declared independence. The Christians were being ethnically cleansed by the muslims and still are as shown by the declining numbers, yet idiots like you deny that this is going on and blame it on the Jews. You try and claim that not one Jew lived in the area before the LoN invited the Jews of the world to settle in Palestine, when the truth is the Jews were the most prevalent in the towns and cities owning most of the properties. As allways the ISLAMONAZI's see the creation of a homeland for anyone other than muslims as a reason for violence, bloodshed and terrorism and they disregard every and all treaties under their rules of kithman and taqiya until it suits their purpose. Read the Mandate terms and you will see that the muslims and Christians rights were protected. and as the state of Israel has proven they have the same rights as the Jews to citizenship and all that goes with it. It was always the arab muslims that took the rights of the Palestinians away from them when they refused to allow them to declare independence of their own. They are kept in a state of perpetual refugee status because it suits arab nationalism's propaganda, while every other refugee is absorbed into friendly nations.

You want big guns then be prepared to deal with facts from arab sources showing that they have lied repeatedly over the last 100 years about the problems in palestine
Your summation Phoenall is misguided and incorrect...........in the mid 20th Century Jews were in the minority both in land ownership and population......prior to the Illegals......Jews and Palestinians got on very well.........The Palestinians and Jews treated each other with respect......but the drive for Stateship created this schism.......but Jews are not united on many fronts actually....it is only in the last 25 years that the Right Wing have loaded Israel up with their ilk.......that is why secular Jews are leaving Israel in droves,you realise at this rate,Israel will be left with just the flotsham and jetsome of archaich Jews whos minds are back in the Dark Ages.....Modern Israel will be a thing of the past



You cant even get the names right as the Palestinians before 1960 were the Jews, and calling a muslim a Palestinian was a death sentence. The Jews were oppressed by the pact of Omar and the dhimmi laws and many were murdered out of hand so some paedophile muslim could take their daughter as a sex slave. In the run up to Jewish independence the Jews owned more of the land than the arab muslims after buying it from absentee Ottoman landlords. Not once have team Palestine produced evidence of any friendly terms between Jews and arab muslims, apart from modern ISLAMONAZI PROPAGANDA. You really need to look at proper reports about Israel as the population is growing while that of arab muslims in Israel is dropping. Israel itself is secular and this is shown in its laws giving non Jews the same rights as Jews. Modern history can never be a thing of the past it is too firmly entrenched in CUSTOMARY INTERNATIONAL LAW from its name to its Jewishness. read the UN declarations in regards to Israel.
 
"You cant even get the names right as the Palestinians before 1960 were the Jews"

Really? Were there many Jews named Husein in Mandate Palestine?

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"You cant even get the names right as the Palestinians before 1960 were the Jews"

Really? Were there many Jews named Husein in Mandate Palestine?

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Your big guns don't make much sound do they as this is a BRITISH PASSPORT issued for MANDATE CITIZENS.

TET ANOTHER MASSIVE FAIL FOR TEAM PALESTINE BY ABDUL
 
"You really need to look at proper reports about Israel as the population is growing while that of arab muslims in Israel is dropping"

Really? From Fox News no less. LOL

"Jews will eventually become a minority because of higher Arab population growth, said demographer Sergio Della Pergola of the Hebrew University of Jerusalem and Arnon Soffer, a geographer at Haifa University."

Israeli-Arab demographic balance takes center stage as Kerry pushes partition deal Fox News
 
"You cant even get the names right as the Palestinians before 1960 were the Jews"

Really? Were there many Jews named Husein in Mandate Palestine?

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Your big guns don't make much sound do they as this is a BRITISH PASSPORT issued for MANDATE CITIZENS.

TET ANOTHER MASSIVE FAIL FOR TEAM PALESTINE BY ABDUL

Does it say Palestine?
 
"You cant even get the names right as the Palestinians before 1960 were the Jews"

Really? Were there many Jews named Husein in Mandate Palestine?

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Your big guns don't make much sound do they as this is a BRITISH PASSPORT issued for MANDATE CITIZENS.

TET ANOTHER MASSIVE FAIL FOR TEAM PALESTINE BY ABDUL


I never fail you psychotic nutcase.
 
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Given the well known fact that hamas is a scumbag org that severely oppresses the people of gaza, how come the pro pal defenders here never seem to complain about them? How come they never seem to have any comments taking hamas to task for not governing gaza in a professional, efficient manner?

Simple. The enemy of the anti-Israel cabal is their friend. Thus Hamas gets a pass from the haters.

Considering,Israel and the US supported Hamas against Arafat and gave them arms and money.....You silly Sod...

Woo ... could you explain exactly when the US and Israel gave arms to Hamas?
 
How IGNORANT YOU ARE..............

How ignorant are you? Did you watch the video? I only stated what the video said. The Irgun was formed to fight the British. And that is who they concentrated on.

Of the 62 attacks listed here, 20 were against the British, hardly "concentrated on the British". The Zionist Congress and the Jewish Agency branded them a terrorist organisation, just like the al-Qassam Brigades are branded today. Today the Irgun are percieved as "heroes" in Zionist Israel, just as Palestinians see al-Qassam Brigades.
 
Given the well known fact that hamas is a scumbag org that severely oppresses the people of gaza, how come the pro pal defenders here never seem to complain about them? How come they never seem to have any comments taking hamas to task for not governing gaza in a professional, efficient manner?

Simple. The enemy of the anti-Israel cabal is their friend. Thus Hamas gets a pass from the haters.
Considering,Israel and the US supported Hamas against Arafat and gave them arms and money......why do you complain,you are responsible in the first place......later YOU Israel and the US......wanted fair and open elections for Gaza and the West Bank....which the Palestinians DID,even your own scutineers acknowledge to be fact......the Gazan Palestinians voted for Hamas.....so you got what you asked for..........I don't know about Hamas personally but as things have turned out with the Right Wing Palestinian Hating Rabids......the Palestinians may really need Hamas......You silly Sod...You bleat now,but You ASKED FOR IT........DIDN'T YA...............

HUMBLE I AM NOT....

But a raging idiot you are. :cool-45:
 

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