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A Pontius Pilate Moment The Middle East

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Remember when we had a real President, and peace was breaking out all over the Middle East....something no previous President could accomplish.

Now, Democrats are back and so is internecine warfare.



But.....

"Analysts: Arab states are ‘washing their hands’ of Palestinians

Practical governments are seeking mutually beneficial relations with Israel.

In what proved to be a snapshot of professional views of the Arab-Israeli conflict on the eve of war, Georgetown University adjunct professor and Middle East Institute (MEI) senior fellow Khaled Elgindy concluded that the “Arab world is sort of washing their hands” of the Palestinian cause during a May 3 MEI webinar. He agreed with his fellow panelists addressing “Arab-Israeli Normalization: A Viable Avenue Towards Peace?” that America and Arab states are prioritizing practical self-interests over an increasingly failed, violent Palestinian state project.

The panelists examined the implications of Bahrain, Morocco, Sudan and the United Arab Emirates establishing normal diplomatic relations with Israel during former President Donald Trump’s final months in office. These agreements initiated by Bahrain and UAE’s Abraham Accords have become only more remarkable in the days following the panel.

The Iranian-supported Hamas terror group in Gaza renewed rocket attacks against Israel on May 10, firing thousands of rockets at Tel Aviv and other Israeli civilian population centers. Israel retaliated with airstrikes and artillery. UAE officials warned Hamas of sanctions if its campaign persists.


These Arab state recognitions of Israel “robbed the Palestinians of one of the very few points of leverage that they had vis-à-vis Israel,” noted Elgindy."




Can I get an "amen"!!!!
 
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"...Gulf states seemed more interested in military alliances among themselves and with Israel to counter threats like Iran,..."
Ibid.


In a way, this can be seen as a number of nations admitting publicly what they said privately.....that Hussein Obama was a fool and a danger to the world.
Now, they can act in a way that Trump made possible.


The state press had always hidden the laughter that Obama provoked.



"Elgindy additionally cited the practical realities that facilitated Israel’s relations with Bahrain, Morocco, Sudan and the UAE. Unlike Egypt and Jordan, which made peace agreements with Israel in 1979 and 1994, respectively, this Arab quartet had never engaged in military hostilities with Israel. Correspondingly, several of these states have had “under-the-table relations with the Israelis anyway” and now merely “are consecrating an existing geopolitical order.”
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"Yet even before Hamas’s latest jihad, Elgindy correctly faulted Palestinians for their plight, as the Palestinian Authority’s recent cancellation of long overdue elections—the first since 2006—further exposed the corruption of the P.A. dictatorship. The cancellation “is another sign of a, I don’t any other way to put it, but a bankrupt leadership, that has no strategic vision, that is incapable of even minimally doing what is required to put its own house in order.” “You can never really underestimate the Palestinian leadership’s dysfunction,” he added."
Op.Cit.


How is it the Democrats always manage to pick the losers?


And vice versa......remember the Palestinians sending donations to Obama's campaign.....illegally, of course.
 
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".....Palestinians have “become their own worst enemies” by showing themselves unworthy of serious international consideration. This societal incompetence “is self-reinforcing” against Palestinian state aspirations, as Arab nations are “not inclined to want to move ahead with two states.” In this context, he chastised Israel, the United States and other countries for “opposing Palestinian reconciliation efforts” between the P.A. and Hamas, as if giving power to jihadist terrorists could solve anything."


Consistent with Trump's successful efforts in the area, no aid should be given to the savages of Hamas, and Gaza.

Let the same folks who gave them the thousands of missiles to fire at Israel, be responsible for any aid.

That would be Obama's pets, the world's worst state sponsor of terrorism.


Or, maybe Democrats could send those checks to Planned Parenthood to Tehran instead and Gaza.
Seems fair....Gaza sent checks to Obama....
 

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Well some of them are still supporting the vermin on the sly, or they wouldn't have those rockets. They share no border with Iran, so they're coming in from the surrounding Arab states, which doesn't happen in dictatorships without deliberate govt. permissions. All this group hugging and mutual ass kissing will go away the second Iran ceases to be a threat to Sunnis.
 

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RE: Mutually Beneficial Relations with Israel
et al,

PREFACE: The objective in the Middle East is the same as the overall objective in the Purpose of the UN: To ensure that international peace and security, and justice, are not endangered.

Practical governments are seeking mutually beneficial relations with Israel.

In what proved to be a snapshot of professional views of the Arab-Israeli conflict on the eve of war, Georgetown University adjunct professor and Middle East Institute (MEI) senior fellow Khaled Elgindy concluded that the “Arab world is sort of washing their hands” of the Palestinian cause during a May 3 MEI webinar. He agreed with his fellow panelists addressing “Arab-Israeli Normalization: A Viable Avenue Towards Peace?” that America and Arab states are prioritizing practical self-interests over an increasingly failed, violent Palestinian state project.

The panelists examined the implications of Bahrain, Morocco, Sudan and the United Arab Emirates establishing normal diplomatic relations with Israel during former President Donald Trump’s final months in office. These agreements initiated by Bahrain and UAE’s Abraham Accords have become only more remarkable in the days following the panel.
(QUESTION)

And why is this a bad thing?

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Most Respectfully,
R
 

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One step to real peace is for the UN to finally admit that it w as Egypt who created the 'refugee camps', not Israel; they refused to allow them to return to their homelands and blocked them in. But it's all moot, since there is never going to be a political solution, it will ultimately be a military one, unless Egypt and the other Arab dictatorships face up to their role in the problems. The UN is a Marx Brothers farce, only with horrible script writers. This is the UN that allowed Arab terrorists to set up mortar and rocket pits right next to their observation towers, and then sniveled and whined when the IDF responded to their shelling by attacking the pits, with the resulting collateral damage, of course. they're hypocritical morons and buffoons. Even the French are more effective.
 

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Remember when we had a real President, and peace was breaking out all over the Middle East....something no previous President could accomplish.

Now, Democrats are back and so is internecine warfare.



But.....

"Analysts: Arab states are ‘washing their hands’ of Palestinians

Practical governments are seeking mutually beneficial relations with Israel.

In what proved to be a snapshot of professional views of the Arab-Israeli conflict on the eve of war, Georgetown University adjunct professor and Middle East Institute (MEI) senior fellow Khaled Elgindy concluded that the “Arab world is sort of washing their hands” of the Palestinian cause during a May 3 MEI webinar. He agreed with his fellow panelists addressing “Arab-Israeli Normalization: A Viable Avenue Towards Peace?” that America and Arab states are prioritizing practical self-interests over an increasingly failed, violent Palestinian state project.

The panelists examined the implications of Bahrain, Morocco, Sudan and the United Arab Emirates establishing normal diplomatic relations with Israel during former President Donald Trump’s final months in office. These agreements initiated by Bahrain and UAE’s Abraham Accords have become only more remarkable in the days following the panel.

The Iranian-supported Hamas terror group in Gaza renewed rocket attacks against Israel on May 10, firing thousands of rockets at Tel Aviv and other Israeli civilian population centers. Israel retaliated with airstrikes and artillery. UAE officials warned Hamas of sanctions if its campaign persists.


These Arab state recognitions of Israel “robbed the Palestinians of one of the very few points of leverage that they had vis-à-vis Israel,” noted Elgindy."




Can I get an "amen"!!!!
AMEN! Perhaps it's that "leverage" that has kept the Palestinians from refusing to even negotiate a peaceful solution for decades?
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RE: Mutually Beneficial Relations with Israel
et al,

PREFACE: The objective in the Middle East is the same as the overall objective in the Purpose of the UN: To ensure that international peace and security, and justice, are not endangered.

Practical governments are seeking mutually beneficial relations with Israel.

In what proved to be a snapshot of professional views of the Arab-Israeli conflict on the eve of war, Georgetown University adjunct professor and Middle East Institute (MEI) senior fellow Khaled Elgindy concluded that the “Arab world is sort of washing their hands” of the Palestinian cause during a May 3 MEI webinar. He agreed with his fellow panelists addressing “Arab-Israeli Normalization: A Viable Avenue Towards Peace?” that America and Arab states are prioritizing practical self-interests over an increasingly failed, violent Palestinian state project.

The panelists examined the implications of Bahrain, Morocco, Sudan and the United Arab Emirates establishing normal diplomatic relations with Israel during former President Donald Trump’s final months in office. These agreements initiated by Bahrain and UAE’s Abraham Accords have become only more remarkable in the days following the panel.
(QUESTION)

And why is this a bad thing?

1611604183365.png

Most Respectfully,
R
Who said it was a bad thing.....Biden????
 
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Remember when we had a real President, and peace was breaking out all over the Middle East....something no previous President could accomplish.

Now, Democrats are back and so is internecine warfare.



But.....

"Analysts: Arab states are ‘washing their hands’ of Palestinians

Practical governments are seeking mutually beneficial relations with Israel.

In what proved to be a snapshot of professional views of the Arab-Israeli conflict on the eve of war, Georgetown University adjunct professor and Middle East Institute (MEI) senior fellow Khaled Elgindy concluded that the “Arab world is sort of washing their hands” of the Palestinian cause during a May 3 MEI webinar. He agreed with his fellow panelists addressing “Arab-Israeli Normalization: A Viable Avenue Towards Peace?” that America and Arab states are prioritizing practical self-interests over an increasingly failed, violent Palestinian state project.

The panelists examined the implications of Bahrain, Morocco, Sudan and the United Arab Emirates establishing normal diplomatic relations with Israel during former President Donald Trump’s final months in office. These agreements initiated by Bahrain and UAE’s Abraham Accords have become only more remarkable in the days following the panel.

The Iranian-supported Hamas terror group in Gaza renewed rocket attacks against Israel on May 10, firing thousands of rockets at Tel Aviv and other Israeli civilian population centers. Israel retaliated with airstrikes and artillery. UAE officials warned Hamas of sanctions if its campaign persists.


These Arab state recognitions of Israel “robbed the Palestinians of one of the very few points of leverage that they had vis-à-vis Israel,” noted Elgindy."




Can I get an "amen"!!!!
AMEN! Perhaps it's that "leverage" that has kept the Palestinians from refusing to even negotiate a peaceful solution for decades?
View attachment 496273


It's their religion.
 

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Remember when we had a real President, and peace was breaking out all over the Middle East....something no previous President could accomplish.

Now, Democrats are back and so is internecine warfare.

But.....

"Analysts: Arab states are ‘washing their hands’ of Palestinians

Practical governments are seeking mutually beneficial relations with Israel.

In what proved to be a snapshot of professional views of the Arab-Israeli conflict on the eve of war, Georgetown University adjunct professor and Middle East Institute (MEI) senior fellow Khaled Elgindy concluded that the “Arab world is sort of washing their hands” of the Palestinian cause during a May 3 MEI webinar. He agreed with his fellow panelists addressing “Arab-Israeli Normalization: A Viable Avenue Towards Peace?” that America and Arab states are prioritizing practical self-interests over an increasingly failed, violent Palestinian state project.

The panelists examined the implications of Bahrain, Morocco, Sudan and the United Arab Emirates establishing normal diplomatic relations with Israel during former President Donald Trump’s final months in office. These agreements initiated by Bahrain and UAE’s Abraham Accords have become only more remarkable in the days following the panel.

The Iranian-supported Hamas terror group in Gaza renewed rocket attacks against Israel on May 10, firing thousands of rockets at Tel Aviv and other Israeli civilian population centers. Israel retaliated with airstrikes and artillery. UAE officials warned Hamas of sanctions if its campaign persists.


These Arab state recognitions of Israel “robbed the Palestinians of one of the very few points of leverage that they had vis-à-vis Israel,” noted Elgindy."

Can I get an "amen"!!!!

HAMAS was provoked by Jewish men attacking the Haram al Sharif.
 
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HAMAS was provoked by Jewish men attacking the Haram al Sharif.


No, you moron......

Here's what 'provoked' your sort:


.“I have been commanded to wage war against mankind till they testify that there is no god but Allah, that Muhammad is the messenger of Allah, …and if they do it, their blood and property are guaranteed protection on my behalf ….”

Know whose quote that is?

Muhammad bin Abdullah (570-632)
 

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No, you moron......

Here's what 'provoked' your sort:


.“I have been commanded to wage war against mankind till they testify that there is no god but Allah, that Muhammad is the messenger of Allah, …and if they do it, their blood and property are guaranteed protection on my behalf ….”

Know whose quote that is?

Muhammad bin Abdullah (570-632)
I desperately NEED a link to that ATTACK BY JEWISH MEN ON THE YELLOW PUSTULE AL AQSA
 

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I searched-----for JEWISH MEN ATTACK AL AQSA
mosque in vain I cannot find even an index finger
touch on the yellow pustule by a jew. Can someone
PLEASE help surada----she needs a LINK
 

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AMEN! Perhaps it's that "leverage" that has kept the Palestinians from refusing to even negotiate a peaceful solution for decades?
View attachment 496273

Wrong.
The Palestinians always negotiated, but Israel constantly violated the agreements even as they were being signed, by illegally confiscating more homes.
Israel never stopped.
It was and still is constant.
An illegal invasion is not less of an illegal invasion if done very slowly, house by house.

Israel has zero legal reason to exist at all, but anything beyond the 1948 UN peace accord, is totally criminal.
 

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I desperately NEED a link to that ATTACK BY JEWISH MEN ON THE YELLOW PUSTULE AL AQSA

There are hundreds of videos showing hundreds of Jews and armed troops attacking the Temple Mount illegally.
Jews are legally not allowed to pray there because there is ZERO evidence there was ever any Jewish building there.
In all history, the only building there is the Islamic temple.

This was the first hit, but a fairly humorous one I think.

 

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No, you moron......

Here's what 'provoked' your sort:


.“I have been commanded to wage war against mankind till they testify that there is no god but Allah, that Muhammad is the messenger of Allah, …and if they do it, their blood and property are guaranteed protection on my behalf ….”

Know whose quote that is?

Muhammad bin Abdullah (570-632)

There is no quote like that.
Provide a link and we can easily show why it is false.
The Quran has the only quotes from Mohammad, and the Quran not only says there can be no compulsion over religion, but that both Judaism and Christianity are Brothers of the Book and valid ways to the same heaven as Islam.
 

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No, you moron......

Here's what 'provoked' your sort:


.“I have been commanded to wage war against mankind till they testify that there is no god but Allah, that Muhammad is the messenger of Allah, …and if they do it, their blood and property are guaranteed protection on my behalf ….”

Know whose quote that is?



Muhammad bin Abdullah (570-632)



Dozens of Jewish settlers, flanked by heavily armed Israeli special forces, entered the Al-Aqsa Mosque compound in occupied East Jerusalem in the early morning, further raising tensions hours ...

 
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There is no quote like that.
Provide a link and we can easily show why it is false.
The Quran has the only quotes from Mohammad, and the Quran not only says there can be no compulsion over religion, but that both Judaism and Christianity are Brothers of the Book and valid ways to the same heaven as Islam.



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I'm never wrong.
There is no quote like that.
Provide a link and we can easily show why it is false.
The Quran has the only quotes from Mohammad, and the Quran not only says there can be no compulsion over religion, but that both Judaism and Christianity are Brothers of the Book and valid ways to the same heaven as Islam.



"The Quran has the only quotes from Mohammad, and the Quran not only says there can be no compulsion over religion,"

Gads, you are lying scum.


The following are direct quotes from the Quran and the Hadith:

Quran 4:89: "They (infidels) desire that you should disbelieve as they have disbelieved, so that you might be (all) alike; therefore take not from among them friends until they fly (their homes) in Allah's way; but if they turn back, then seize them and kill them wherever you find them, and take not from among them a friend or a helper."

Quran 8:12: "Instill terror into the hearts of the unbelievers;"

Quran 2:191: "... kill the disbelievers wherever we find them

Quran 22:19-22: "… for them (the unbelievers) garments of fire shall be cut and there shall be poured over their heads boiling water whereby whatever is in their bowels and skin shall be dissolved and they will be punished with hooked iron rods."

Quran 8:12: "Your Lord inspired the angels with the message: 'I will terrorize the unbelievers. Therefore smite them on their necks and every joint and incapacitate them. Strike off their heads and cut off each of their fingers and toes.'"

Qur'an:8:12 "I shall terrorize the infidels. So wound their bodies and incapacitate them because they oppose Allah and His Apostle."

Quran 8:7: "Allah wished to confirm the truth by His words: 'Wipe the infidels out to the last.'"

Quran 8:59: "The infidels should not think that they can get away from us. Prepare against them whatever arms and weaponry you can muster so that you may terrorize them. They are your enemy and Allah's enemy."

Quran 8:60: "Prepare against them whatever arms and cavalry you can muster that you may strike terror in the enemies of Allah, and others besides them not known to you."

Quran 9.29" "Fight those who do not believe in Allah, nor in the latter day, nor do they prohibit what Allah and His Apostle have prohibited, nor follow the religion of truth, out of those who have been given the Book, until they pay the tax in acknowledgment of superiority and they are in a state of subjection."

Quran 47:4: "Strike off the heads of the disbelievers" and, after making a "wide slaughter among them, carefully tie up the remaining captives."

Hadith Sahih Muslim (41:6985): "Abu Huraira reported Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) as saying: 'The last hour would not come unless the Muslims will fight against the Jews and the Muslims would kill them until the Jews would hide themselves behind a stone or a tree and a stone or a tree would say: Muslim, the servant of Allah, there is a Jew behind me; come and kill him; but the tree Gharqad would not say, for it is the tree of the Jews.'"

Quran 9:5: "When the sacred forbidden months for fighting are past, fight and kill the disbelievers wherever you find them, take them captive, torture them, and lie in wait and ambush them using every stratagem of war."

Sura 3:151: "Soon shall We cast terror into the hearts of the unbelievers for that they joined companions with Allah for which He had sent no authority: their abode will be the fire; and evil is the home of the wrong-doers!"

Sura 8:60: "Against them make ready your strength to the utmost of your power including steeds of war to strike terror into (the hearts of) the enemies of Allah and your enemies and others besides whom ye may not know but whom Allah doth know. Whatever ye shall spend in the cause of Allah shall be repaid unto you and ye shall not be treated unjustly."

Tabari IX:113: "Allah permits you to shut them (women) in separate rooms and to beat them, but not severely. If they abstain, they have the right to food and clothing. Treat women well for they are like domestic animals and they possess nothing themselves. Allah has made the enjoyment of their bodies lawful in his Quran."

Tabari I:280: "Allah said, 'It is My obligation to make Eve bleed once every month as she made this tree bleed. I must also make Eve stupid, although I created her intelligent.' Because Allah afflicted Eve, all of the women of this world menstruate and are stupid."

Ishaq:327: "Allah said, 'A prophet must slaughter before collecting captives. A slaughtered enemy is driven from the land. Muhammad, you craved the desires of this world, its goods and the ransom captives would bring. But Allah desires killing them to manifest the religion.'"
 
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Dozens of Jewish settlers, flanked by heavily armed Israeli special forces, entered the Al-Aqsa Mosque compound in occupied East Jerusalem in the early morning, further raising tensions hours ...




Before or after the Islamist threw rocks down on the praying Jews at the Wall?
 

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