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A History Mystery: Roosevelt- Why Lie?

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Folks lie to get something they want, or to hide some damaging truth. In the following thread, Roosevelt's momentous lie about fixing the economy is revealed.....

...and the question posed is....what did he have to gain?



Folks were truly frightened by the Hoover Recession....and had faith in the promises of Franklin Roosevelt, that he knew exactly what caused the economic downturn...and knew the steps necessary to cure same.

And, he did know: After all, It had been done earlier by Harding, and he, Harding, cured a similar recession/depression in the time most American economic calamities required: a year or two.


So.....if he knew what had to be done....and promised to do exactly that.....

...why did Franklin Roosevelt lie to the public, and- not just ignore the cures...but institute policies that extended the Depression a full decade?????

Why?



1. "Though modern myth claims that the free market “self destructed” in 1929, government policy was the debacle’s principal culprit. If this crash had been like previous ones, the hard times would have ended in two or three years at the most, and likely sooner than that.
But unprecedented political bungling instead prolonged the misery for over 10 years.

Unemployment in 1930 averaged a mildly recessionary 8.9 percent, up from 3.2 percent in 1929. It shot up rapidly until peaking out at more than 25 percent in 1933.


2. Did Hoover really subscribe to a “hands-off-the-economy,” free-market philosophy? His opponent in the 1932 election, Franklin Roosevelt, didn’t think so. During the campaign, a) Roosevelt blasted Hoover for spending and taxing too much,
b) boosting the national debt,
c) choking off trade, and
d)putting millions on the dole.
e) [Roosevelt accused Hoover] of “reckless and extravagant” spending,
f) of thinking “that we ought to center control of everything in Washington as rapidly as possible,” and g) of presiding over “the greatest spending administration in peacetime in all of history.”

Contrary to the conventional view about Hoover, Roosevelt and Garner were absolutely right." Great Myths of the Great Depression | Lawrence W. Reed



a. Roosevelt’s running mate, John Nance Garner, charged that Hoover was “leading the country down the path of socialism.”
“FDR’s Disputed Legacy,” Time, February 1, 1982, p. 23




Now....look over that list of charges by Roosevelt at Hoover, economic policy mistakes....and, since he was correct in those accusations......... why the heck would Roosevelt continue with every single one of 'em????


Roosevelt: Why lie????
 

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Please put this in the badlands or conspiracy forum where it belongs.
 
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Was FDR aware of Harding and his policies? One would think so....after all Franklin Roosevelt ran as the Democratic candidate for Vice-President, alongside James M. Cox. The ticket was defeated by RepublicansWarren G. Harding and Calvin Coolidge.



3. "America’s greatest depression fighter was Warren Gamaliel Harding....Harding inherited the Woodrow Wilson mess, in particular the post-World War I depression – almost as severe, from peak to trough, as the Great Contraction from 1929 to 1933, that FDR inherited and prolonged. Richard K. Vedder and Lowell E. Gallaway, in their book Out of Work (1993), noted that the magnitude of the 1920 depression "exceeded that for the Great Depression of the following decade for several quarters." The estimated gross national product plunged 24% from $91.5 billion in 1920 to $69.6 billion in 1921. The number of unemployed people jumped from 2.1 million in 1920 to 4.9 million in 1921.

Harding, wrote historian Robert K. Murray, in The Harding Era (1969), "always decried high taxes, government waste, and excessive governmental interference in the private sector of the economy.



Harding embraced the advice of Treasury Secretary Andrew Mellon and called for tax cuts in his first message to Congress, April 12, 1921. ...Harding recognized the crucial importance of encouraging investment essential for growth and jobs, something that FDR never did."
This is the economic history lesson....

Harding's result: "....the gross national product rebounded to $74.1 billion in 1922. The number of unemployed fell to 2.8 million – a reported 6.7% of the labor force – in 1922. So, just a year and a half after Harding became president, the Roaring 20s were underway! The unemployment rate continued to decline, reaching a low of 1.8% in 1926 – an extraordinary feat. Since then, the unemployment rate has been lower only once in wartime (1944), and never in peacetime." http://archive.lewrockwell.com/orig4/powell-jim4.html
http://www.nationalreview.com/articles/226645/not-so-great-depression/jim-powell



Think Franklin Roosevelt...who knew what had worked, after all, it was the basis of his criticism of Herbert Hoover....

.....followed that plan?

Guess again.
 

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Folks lie to get something they want, or to hide some damaging truth. In the following thread, Roosevelt's momentous lie about fixing the economy is revealed.....

...and the question posed is....what did he have to gain?



Folks were truly frightened by the Hoover Recession....and had faith in the promises of Franklin Roosevelt, that he knew exactly what caused the economic downturn...and knew the steps necessary to cure same.

And, he did know: After all, It had been done earlier by Harding, and he, Harding, cured a similar recession/depression in the time most American economic calamities required: a year or two.


So.....if he knew what had to be done....and promised to do exactly that.....

...why did Franklin Roosevelt lie to the public, and- not just ignore the cures...but institute policies that extended the Depression a full decade?????

Why?



1. "Though modern myth claims that the free market “self destructed” in 1929, government policy was the debacle’s principal culprit. If this crash had been like previous ones, the hard times would have ended in two or three years at the most, and likely sooner than that.
But unprecedented political bungling instead prolonged the misery for over 10 years.

Unemployment in 1930 averaged a mildly recessionary 8.9 percent, up from 3.2 percent in 1929. It shot up rapidly until peaking out at more than 25 percent in 1933.


2. Did Hoover really subscribe to a “hands-off-the-economy,” free-market philosophy? His opponent in the 1932 election, Franklin Roosevelt, didn’t think so. During the campaign, a) Roosevelt blasted Hoover for spending and taxing too much,
b) boosting the national debt,
c) choking off trade, and
d)putting millions on the dole.
e) [Roosevelt accused Hoover] of “reckless and extravagant” spending,
f) of thinking “that we ought to center control of everything in Washington as rapidly as possible,” and g) of presiding over “the greatest spending administration in peacetime in all of history.”

Contrary to the conventional view about Hoover, Roosevelt and Garner were absolutely right." Great Myths of the Great Depression | Lawrence W. Reed



a. Roosevelt’s running mate, John Nance Garner, charged that Hoover was “leading the country down the path of socialism.”
“FDR’s Disputed Legacy,” Time, February 1, 1982, p. 23




Now....look over that list of charges by Roosevelt at Hoover, economic policy mistakes....and, since he was correct in those accusations......... why the heck would Roosevelt continue with every single one of 'em????


Roosevelt: Why lie????

Prosperity is just around the corner

Republicans lied about it FDR made it happen
 
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Thanks for dropping by and sharing your ignorance.
Might as well muddle in it with you and yours..I do enjoys playing with he mental handicapped...



Let's remind all that you were unable to find any errors in the thesis.....but that you had no comment that related to the OP at all.


Somehow, any revelations that reveal the mistakes, lies, un-American activities of Franklin Roosevelt are met with your sort of obfuscation and contumely.

You can't deny any of it....so you attack it.

Liberals on display.
 
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Folks lie to get something they want, or to hide some damaging truth. In the following thread, Roosevelt's momentous lie about fixing the economy is revealed.....

...and the question posed is....what did he have to gain?



Folks were truly frightened by the Hoover Recession....and had faith in the promises of Franklin Roosevelt, that he knew exactly what caused the economic downturn...and knew the steps necessary to cure same.

And, he did know: After all, It had been done earlier by Harding, and he, Harding, cured a similar recession/depression in the time most American economic calamities required: a year or two.


So.....if he knew what had to be done....and promised to do exactly that.....

...why did Franklin Roosevelt lie to the public, and- not just ignore the cures...but institute policies that extended the Depression a full decade?????

Why?



1. "Though modern myth claims that the free market “self destructed” in 1929, government policy was the debacle’s principal culprit. If this crash had been like previous ones, the hard times would have ended in two or three years at the most, and likely sooner than that.
But unprecedented political bungling instead prolonged the misery for over 10 years.

Unemployment in 1930 averaged a mildly recessionary 8.9 percent, up from 3.2 percent in 1929. It shot up rapidly until peaking out at more than 25 percent in 1933.


2. Did Hoover really subscribe to a “hands-off-the-economy,” free-market philosophy? His opponent in the 1932 election, Franklin Roosevelt, didn’t think so. During the campaign, a) Roosevelt blasted Hoover for spending and taxing too much,
b) boosting the national debt,
c) choking off trade, and
d)putting millions on the dole.
e) [Roosevelt accused Hoover] of “reckless and extravagant” spending,
f) of thinking “that we ought to center control of everything in Washington as rapidly as possible,” and g) of presiding over “the greatest spending administration in peacetime in all of history.”

Contrary to the conventional view about Hoover, Roosevelt and Garner were absolutely right." Great Myths of the Great Depression | Lawrence W. Reed



a. Roosevelt’s running mate, John Nance Garner, charged that Hoover was “leading the country down the path of socialism.”
“FDR’s Disputed Legacy,” Time, February 1, 1982, p. 23




Now....look over that list of charges by Roosevelt at Hoover, economic policy mistakes....and, since he was correct in those accusations......... why the heck would Roosevelt continue with every single one of 'em????


Roosevelt: Why lie????

Prosperity is just around the corner

Republicans lied about it FDR made it happen


Prosperity????
By extending the Depression for ten years?

Sometimes you lie, sometimes you simply act like a fool.
 

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Based on the vulgarity.....you must be a Liberal, huh?
Being that you are yet again redundantly reiterating once again the same bile you always regurgitate...you must be and Ann Coulder/Rush Limpbone brainwashed drone...washed down with a dose of Heritage Foundation and flat Earth society associates..
 
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Based on the vulgarity.....you must be a Liberal, huh?
Being that you are yet again redundantly reiterating once again the same bile you always regurgitate...you must be and Ann Coulder/Rush Limpbone brainwashed drone...washed down with a dose of Heritage Foundation and flat Earth society associates..


The thread will document the deep, wide and abiding lie that Roosevelt told the electorate.
I invite you to
a. comment, rebut, offer and alternate view of the facts
b. refrain from vulgarity
c. simply stop reading what clearly makes you lose it.
 

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FDR squashed the Nazis, and some people just can't quell their rage over that.

FDR was Stalin's sock puppet who squashed the Soros best years of his life working with then Nazis in order to give mass murderer Uncle Joe control of Eastern Europe
 

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Based on the vulgarity.....you must be a Liberal, huh?
Being that you are yet again redundantly reiterating once again the same bile you always regurgitate...you must be and Ann Coulder/Rush Limpbone brainwashed drone...washed down with a dose of Heritage Foundation and flat Earth society associates..


The thread will document the deep, wide and abiding lie that Roosevelt told the electorate.
I invite you to
a. comment, rebut, offer and alternate view of the facts
b. refrain from vulgarity
c. simply stop reading what clearly makes you lose it.
Why do any of that, PC, when you act like a tiny brain mutant with your postings.

Now get to it, and while you are at, please offer truly good commentary on what you want to say.
 

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Folks lie to get something they want, or to hide some damaging truth. In the following thread, Roosevelt's momentous lie about fixing the economy is revealed.....

...and the question posed is....what did he have to gain?



Folks were truly frightened by the Hoover Recession....and had faith in the promises of Franklin Roosevelt, that he knew exactly what caused the economic downturn...and knew the steps necessary to cure same.

And, he did know: After all, It had been done earlier by Harding, and he, Harding, cured a similar recession/depression in the time most American economic calamities required: a year or two.


So.....if he knew what had to be done....and promised to do exactly that.....

...why did Franklin Roosevelt lie to the public, and- not just ignore the cures...but institute policies that extended the Depression a full decade?????

Why?



1. "Though modern myth claims that the free market “self destructed” in 1929, government policy was the debacle’s principal culprit. If this crash had been like previous ones, the hard times would have ended in two or three years at the most, and likely sooner than that.
But unprecedented political bungling instead prolonged the misery for over 10 years.

Unemployment in 1930 averaged a mildly recessionary 8.9 percent, up from 3.2 percent in 1929. It shot up rapidly until peaking out at more than 25 percent in 1933.


2. Did Hoover really subscribe to a “hands-off-the-economy,” free-market philosophy? His opponent in the 1932 election, Franklin Roosevelt, didn’t think so. During the campaign, a) Roosevelt blasted Hoover for spending and taxing too much,
b) boosting the national debt,
c) choking off trade, and
d)putting millions on the dole.
e) [Roosevelt accused Hoover] of “reckless and extravagant” spending,
f) of thinking “that we ought to center control of everything in Washington as rapidly as possible,” and g) of presiding over “the greatest spending administration in peacetime in all of history.”

Contrary to the conventional view about Hoover, Roosevelt and Garner were absolutely right." Great Myths of the Great Depression | Lawrence W. Reed



a. Roosevelt’s running mate, John Nance Garner, charged that Hoover was “leading the country down the path of socialism.”
“FDR’s Disputed Legacy,” Time, February 1, 1982, p. 23




Now....look over that list of charges by Roosevelt at Hoover, economic policy mistakes....and, since he was correct in those accusations......... why the heck would Roosevelt continue with every single one of 'em????


Roosevelt: Why lie????

Prosperity is just around the corner

Republicans lied about it FDR made it happen

Economy worse than the 7 Biblical lean Years, 20% Average UE, which only dropped to 14% when Hitler conquered France = Happy Days, Here Again!
 

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Based on the vulgarity.....you must be a Liberal, huh?
Being that you are yet again redundantly reiterating once again the same bile you always regurgitate...you must be and Ann Coulder/Rush Limpbone brainwashed drone...washed down with a dose of Heritage Foundation and flat Earth society associates..


The thread will document the deep, wide and abiding lie that Roosevelt told the electorate.
I invite you to
a. comment, rebut, offer and alternate view of the facts
b. refrain from vulgarity
c. simply stop reading what clearly makes you lose it.
Why do any of that, PC, when you act like a tiny brain mutant with your postings.

Now get to it, and while you are at, please offer truly good commentary on what you want to say.

Stats! PC is picking on me!! Move her posts! Wahhhhhhhhhhh
 

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Folks lie to get something they want, or to hide some damaging truth. In the following thread, Roosevelt's momentous lie about fixing the economy is revealed.....

...and the question posed is....what did he have to gain?



Folks were truly frightened by the Hoover Recession....and had faith in the promises of Franklin Roosevelt, that he knew exactly what caused the economic downturn...and knew the steps necessary to cure same.

And, he did know: After all, It had been done earlier by Harding, and he, Harding, cured a similar recession/depression in the time most American economic calamities required: a year or two.


So.....if he knew what had to be done....and promised to do exactly that.....

...why did Franklin Roosevelt lie to the public, and- not just ignore the cures...but institute policies that extended the Depression a full decade?????

Why?



1. "Though modern myth claims that the free market “self destructed” in 1929, government policy was the debacle’s principal culprit. If this crash had been like previous ones, the hard times would have ended in two or three years at the most, and likely sooner than that.
But unprecedented political bungling instead prolonged the misery for over 10 years.

Unemployment in 1930 averaged a mildly recessionary 8.9 percent, up from 3.2 percent in 1929. It shot up rapidly until peaking out at more than 25 percent in 1933.


2. Did Hoover really subscribe to a “hands-off-the-economy,” free-market philosophy? His opponent in the 1932 election, Franklin Roosevelt, didn’t think so. During the campaign, a) Roosevelt blasted Hoover for spending and taxing too much,
b) boosting the national debt,
c) choking off trade, and
d)putting millions on the dole.
e) [Roosevelt accused Hoover] of “reckless and extravagant” spending,
f) of thinking “that we ought to center control of everything in Washington as rapidly as possible,” and g) of presiding over “the greatest spending administration in peacetime in all of history.”

Contrary to the conventional view about Hoover, Roosevelt and Garner were absolutely right." Great Myths of the Great Depression | Lawrence W. Reed



a. Roosevelt’s running mate, John Nance Garner, charged that Hoover was “leading the country down the path of socialism.”
“FDR’s Disputed Legacy,” Time, February 1, 1982, p. 23




Now....look over that list of charges by Roosevelt at Hoover, economic policy mistakes....and, since he was correct in those accusations......... why the heck would Roosevelt continue with every single one of 'em????


Roosevelt: Why lie????

Prosperity is just around the corner

Republicans lied about it FDR made it happen

Economy worse than the 7 Biblical lean Years, 20% Average UE, which only dropped to 14% when Hitler conquered France = Happy Days, Here Again!
That one never gets old...
 

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If doing nothing should have fixed it, then why did Hoover's move off hands off not correct the situation? He really had 4 years to prove the point...
 

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