A great example of why socialism is better than "charity"

[TNHarley]

Government stimulus has always been the catalyst for any Capitalist venture from its conception. The maintenance of our military, roads, and bridges, comes directly from Socialism. Without it, there is no military, roads, and bridges.

Only a socialist would pretend that all government is socialism.

I never said that. You must have?

If you think military, roads, and bridges are "Socialism" you are now making a distinction without a difference.

Socialism is the foundation for a Capitalist venture. I never said Socialism is a function of all government.you are planting that seed. It is the building block for Capitalism when applicable. And when it is not, we are dependent on Socialism.

Socialism states that the means of production should be owned or controlled by the government as a representation of the people.


Building a road, is not an attempt to control the economic activity that takes advantage of that road.


Thus it is not socialism.

Its a stretch of an argument but without roads and bridges, there wouldnt be near the economic activity.
80% of people who complain about socialism consider military roads and bridges basic govt functions. Without it, there would be absolutely no need for a government in the first place.. Thats why i said it was a stretch.
Its desperation.

 

[Pogo]

Only a socialist would pretend that all government is socialism.

I never said that. You must have?

If you think military, roads, and bridges are "Socialism" you are now making a distinction without a difference.

Socialism is the foundation for a Capitalist venture. I never said Socialism is a function of all government.you are planting that seed. It is the building block for Capitalism when applicable. And when it is not, we are dependent on Socialism.

Socialism states that the means of production should be owned or controlled by the government as a representation of the people.


Building a road, is not an attempt to control the economic activity that takes advantage of that road.


Thus it is not socialism.

Its a stretch of an argument but without roads and bridges, there wouldnt be near the economic activity.
80% of people who complain about socialism consider military roads and bridges basic govt functions. Without it, there would be absolutely no need for a government in the first place.. Thats why i said it was a stretch.
Its desperation.

That's exactly it. Idiot ideologues be all like "get gummint out of EVERYTHING because socialism!" --- then when you point out the power grid, the infrastructure, the skyways, etc etc etc, they go "Oh that's DIFFERENT. Basic government functions! Where's my SS check?"

It's another way of having one's definitions both ways.

 

[TNHarley]

Why did the cops keep taking someone who isn't a woman to a shelter that only takes women? Does Anchorage not have other homeless shelters where this wouldn't have been a problem?

Do you have biological evidence where this should be a problem?

Dont hold your breath. He is thick as shit.

He also doesn't have an answer. These homophobic ass holes haven't got any answers, as a matter of fact.Which is why they won't touch me, or this subject with a ten foot pole. They're so afraid that I'm right, that they had to check for themselves, what is and what isn't there. Lol!

You just compared homosexuality to transgenderism you stupid ******* hick.
You arent right about shit. You dont even know what you're talking about.

Do you want to debate the subject or play cowardly semantics? I didn't think so. It's way over your Sheep sheered head.

Dude, i will debate your condescending dumbass ANY day.
You always talk about "debating" lets have a real one in the bull ring.
Just me and you. And judges.
Any subject.

 

[danielpalos]

Socialism is the foundation for a Capitalist venture. I never said Socialism is a function of all government.you are planting that seed. It is the building block for Capitalism when applicable. And when it is not, we are dependent on Socialism.

Socialism states that the means of production should be owned or controlled by the government as a representation of the people.


Building a road, is not an attempt to control the economic activity that takes advantage of that road.


Thus it is not socialism.

Fiscal and monetary policy are command economics and socialism.

No, they are not.

lol. Yes, they are.

laissez faire is a form of fiscal policy. It is the opposite of command economics.


Right there that refutes what you said.

you simply don't understand the concept of fiscal policy.

 

[TNHarley]

I never said that. You must have?

If you think military, roads, and bridges are "Socialism" you are now making a distinction without a difference.

Socialism is the foundation for a Capitalist venture. I never said Socialism is a function of all government.you are planting that seed. It is the building block for Capitalism when applicable. And when it is not, we are dependent on Socialism.

Socialism states that the means of production should be owned or controlled by the government as a representation of the people.


Building a road, is not an attempt to control the economic activity that takes advantage of that road.


Thus it is not socialism.

Its a stretch of an argument but without roads and bridges, there wouldnt be near the economic activity.
80% of people who complain about socialism consider military roads and bridges basic govt functions. Without it, there would be absolutely no need for a government in the first place.. Thats why i said it was a stretch.
Its desperation.

That's exactly it. Idiot ideologues be all like "get gummint out of EVERYTHING because socialism!" --- then when you point out the power grid, the infrastructure, the skyways, etc etc etc, they go "Oh that's DIFFERENT. Basic government functions! Where's my SS check?"

It's another way of having one's definitions both ways.

SS isnt a basic govt function.
If they say that, they are dumb regardless.

 

[danielpalos]

Links to prove him wrong?" No they are not" is not a substitute for a counter argument.

No one here needs a link to know that there are other forms of "fiscal policy" other than "command economics."

We don't need one. You do, which is why I asked you to produce one Spoiler alert, "you can't" Like I said, you boxed yourself in.

Everyone dumb enough to not know that, has inserted a fork into a electrical plug, or used rat poison thinking it was salt, or some such mishap, and is now dead.

Your random distraction won't save you. You cannot produce a link that reinforces your point. You best be heading to the back of the bus before you start looking foolish.

YOu need a link to know that there are other forms of fiscial policy than "command economics"?

I do? Why me? You were the one who said "no they are not". It wasn't me. You were the one who said "there were other forms of "fiscal policy" not me. Lol! Why should I produce a link from which I never made a claim to? You really are making a fool of yourself now.

Are you really stating that you are not aware of any other form of fiscal policy other than command economics?


Not that you support any other. Are you unaware of any others EXISTING?

Command economics is fiscal policy. Our Space Race was command economics.

 

[TNHarley]

We don't need one. You do, which is why I asked you to produce one Spoiler alert, "you can't" Like I said, you boxed yourself in.



Your random distraction won't save you. You cannot produce a link that reinforces your point. You best be heading to the back of the bus before you start looking foolish.

YOu need a link to know that there are other forms of fiscial policy than "command economics"?

I do? Why me? You were the one who said "no they are not". It wasn't me. You were the one who said "there were other forms of "fiscal policy" not me. Lol! Why should I produce a link from which I never made a claim to? You really are making a fool of yourself now.

Are you really stating that you are not aware of any other form of fiscal policy other than command economics?


Not that you support any other. Are you unaware of any others EXISTING?

Command economics is fiscal policy. Our Space Race was command economics.

Our fiscal policy isnt command economics. Not yet anyways. but will be with bedwetters like producing.
Our fiscal policy influences our economy.
Learn the difference

 

[TNHarley]

Retarded people like this in this thread are perfect examples of why i wish only land owners still voted.
Holy ******* shit

 

[Pogo]

If you think military, roads, and bridges are "Socialism" you are now making a distinction without a difference.

Socialism is the foundation for a Capitalist venture. I never said Socialism is a function of all government.you are planting that seed. It is the building block for Capitalism when applicable. And when it is not, we are dependent on Socialism.

Socialism states that the means of production should be owned or controlled by the government as a representation of the people.


Building a road, is not an attempt to control the economic activity that takes advantage of that road.


Thus it is not socialism.

Its a stretch of an argument but without roads and bridges, there wouldnt be near the economic activity.
80% of people who complain about socialism consider military roads and bridges basic govt functions. Without it, there would be absolutely no need for a government in the first place.. Thats why i said it was a stretch.
Its desperation.

That's exactly it. Idiot ideologues be all like "get gummint out of EVERYTHING because socialism!" --- then when you point out the power grid, the infrastructure, the skyways, etc etc etc, they go "Oh that's DIFFERENT. Basic government functions! Where's my SS check?"

It's another way of having one's definitions both ways.

SS isnt a basic govt function.
If they say that, they are dumb regardless.

Dood, you fixated on the tree. See the forest.

 

[danielpalos]

YOu need a link to know that there are other forms of fiscial policy than "command economics"?

I do? Why me? You were the one who said "no they are not". It wasn't me. You were the one who said "there were other forms of "fiscal policy" not me. Lol! Why should I produce a link from which I never made a claim to? You really are making a fool of yourself now.

Are you really stating that you are not aware of any other form of fiscal policy other than command economics?


Not that you support any other. Are you unaware of any others EXISTING?

Command economics is fiscal policy. Our Space Race was command economics.

Our fiscal policy isnt command economics. Not yet anyways. Not with bedwetters like producing.
Our fiscal policy influences our economy.
Learn the difference

Our Space Race influenced our economy. Only the right wing, never gets it.

 

[BWK]

Only a socialist would pretend that all government is socialism.

I never said that. You must have?

If you think military, roads, and bridges are "Socialism" you are now making a distinction without a difference.

Socialism is the foundation for a Capitalist venture. I never said Socialism is a function of all government.you are planting that seed. It is the building block for Capitalism when applicable. And when it is not, we are dependent on Socialism.

Socialism states that the means of production should be owned or controlled by the government as a representation of the people.


Building a road, is not an attempt to control the economic activity that takes advantage of that road.


Thus it is not socialism.

Its a stretch of an argument but without roads and bridges, there wouldnt be near the economic activity.
80% of people who complain about socialism consider military roads and bridges basic govt functions. Without it, there would be absolutely no need for a government in the first place.. Thats why i said it was a stretch.
Its desperation.

We don't need one. You do, which is why I asked you to produce one Spoiler alert, "you can't" Like I said, you boxed yourself in.



Your random distraction won't save you. You cannot produce a link that reinforces your point. You best be heading to the back of the bus before you start looking foolish.

YOu need a link to know that there are other forms of fiscial policy than "command economics"?

I do? Why me? You were the one who said "no they are not". It wasn't me. You were the one who said "there were other forms of "fiscal policy" not me. Lol! Why should I produce a link from which I never made a claim to? You really are making a fool of yourself now.

Are you really stating that you are not aware of any other form of fiscal policy other than command economics? Tax cuts or spending are examples of fiscal policy. And? What about them


Not that you support any other. Are you unaware of any others EXISTING?

Command economics is fiscal policy. Our Space Race was command economics.

 

[TNHarley]

Socialism is the foundation for a Capitalist venture. I never said Socialism is a function of all government.you are planting that seed. It is the building block for Capitalism when applicable. And when it is not, we are dependent on Socialism.

Socialism states that the means of production should be owned or controlled by the government as a representation of the people.


Building a road, is not an attempt to control the economic activity that takes advantage of that road.


Thus it is not socialism.

Its a stretch of an argument but without roads and bridges, there wouldnt be near the economic activity.
80% of people who complain about socialism consider military roads and bridges basic govt functions. Without it, there would be absolutely no need for a government in the first place.. Thats why i said it was a stretch.
Its desperation.

That's exactly it. Idiot ideologues be all like "get gummint out of EVERYTHING because socialism!" --- then when you point out the power grid, the infrastructure, the skyways, etc etc etc, they go "Oh that's DIFFERENT. Basic government functions! Where's my SS check?"

It's another way of having one's definitions both ways.

SS isnt a basic govt function.
If they say that, they are dumb regardless.

Dood, you fixated on the tree. See the forest.

Im tree ******* the forest, pogo.big orgy. Dont give me that shit.
There is a difference between what socialist people want and basic govt functions. 85% of our govt isnt basic functions. Its a police state and welfare socialist bullshit

 

[sealybobo]

Christian homeless shelter defends decision to turn away trans woman

A Christian homeless shelter in Alaska has defended turning away a homeless transgender woman on a cold January evening.

The Downtown Hope Center shelter in Anchorage, Alaska, is under investigation from the city’s Equal Rights Commission after a vulnerable homeless trans woman with nowhere to sleep was denied access into the women’s shelter.
Police had dropped the unnamed woman, identified as Jessie Doe, at the overnight shelter in January 2018—but twice in two days she was turned away by staff.

The average overnight January temperature in Anchorage, Alaska, is -12° Celsius (9° Fahrenheit).

Here is a "charity" that picks those it helps by criteria other than need. The US needs more socialism so that less people freeze on Winters nights. So does the UK for that matter. .

My republican buddy’s wife got cancer. They couldn’t afford the deductible or copayment so they had a charity fund raiser.

He didn’t invite me. Not after all the arguments we had about socialized medicine.

Stupid Americans. Free to be broken by medical costs.

Does the idiot know if republicans could they would let the insurance companies deny her because she has a pre existing condition?

 

[TNHarley]

YOu need a link to know that there are other forms of fiscial policy than "command economics"?

I do? Why me? You were the one who said "no they are not". It wasn't me. You were the one who said "there were other forms of "fiscal policy" not me. Lol! Why should I produce a link from which I never made a claim to? You really are making a fool of yourself now.

Are you really stating that you are not aware of any other form of fiscal policy other than command economics?


Not that you support any other. Are you unaware of any others EXISTING?

Command economics is fiscal policy. Our Space Race was command economics.

Our fiscal policy isnt command economics. Not yet anyways. Not with bedwetters like producing.
Our fiscal policy influences our economy.
Learn the difference

Our Space Race influenced our economy. Only the right wing, never gets it.

Go shoot up another one, dumbass

 

[Correll]

I never said that. You must have?

If you think military, roads, and bridges are "Socialism" you are now making a distinction without a difference.

Socialism is the foundation for a Capitalist venture. I never said Socialism is a function of all government.you are planting that seed. It is the building block for Capitalism when applicable. And when it is not, we are dependent on Socialism.

Socialism states that the means of production should be owned or controlled by the government as a representation of the people.


Building a road, is not an attempt to control the economic activity that takes advantage of that road.


Thus it is not socialism.

Its a stretch of an argument but without roads and bridges, there wouldnt be near the economic activity.
80% of people who complain about socialism consider military roads and bridges basic govt functions. Without it, there would be absolutely no need for a government in the first place.. Thats why i said it was a stretch.
Its desperation.

YOu need a link to know that there are other forms of fiscial policy than "command economics"?

I do? Why me? You were the one who said "no they are not". It wasn't me. You were the one who said "there were other forms of "fiscal policy" not me. Lol! Why should I produce a link from which I never made a claim to? You really are making a fool of yourself now.

Are you really stating that you are not aware of any other form of fiscal policy other than command economics? Tax cuts or spending are examples of fiscal policy. And? What about them


Not that you support any other. Are you unaware of any others EXISTING?

Command economics is fiscal policy. Our Space Race was command economics.

Who built the Saturn V?

 

[BWK]

Do you have biological evidence where this should be a problem?

Dont hold your breath. He is thick as shit.

He also doesn't have an answer. These homophobic ass holes haven't got any answers, as a matter of fact.Which is why they won't touch me, or this subject with a ten foot pole. They're so afraid that I'm right, that they had to check for themselves, what is and what isn't there. Lol!

You just compared homosexuality to transgenderism you stupid ******* hick.
You arent right about shit. You dont even know what you're talking about.

Do you want to debate the subject or play cowardly semantics? I didn't think so. It's way over your Sheep sheered head.

Dude, i will debate your condescending dumbass ANY day.
You always talk about "debating" lets have a real one in the bull ring.
Just me and you. And judges.
Any subject.

We already did today. And you lost. Something about "transgenders and homosexuality you stupid ******* hick". That was your argument. Don't need a judge for that.

 

[TNHarley]

Dont hold your breath. He is thick as shit.

He also doesn't have an answer. These homophobic ass holes haven't got any answers, as a matter of fact.Which is why they won't touch me, or this subject with a ten foot pole. They're so afraid that I'm right, that they had to check for themselves, what is and what isn't there. Lol!

You just compared homosexuality to transgenderism you stupid ******* hick.
You arent right about shit. You dont even know what you're talking about.

Do you want to debate the subject or play cowardly semantics? I didn't think so. It's way over your Sheep sheered head.

Dude, i will debate your condescending dumbass ANY day.
You always talk about "debating" lets have a real one in the bull ring.
Just me and you. And judges.
Any subject.

We already did today. And you lost. Something about "transgenders and homosexuality you stupid ******* hick". That was your argument. Don't need a judge for that.

You implied they were the same. That isnt my fault you dont know what you are talking about.
Do you want a real debate, or does your retarded ass just get on here and troll?
Lets debate, rambo

 

[Pogo]

Socialism states that the means of production should be owned or controlled by the government as a representation of the people.


Building a road, is not an attempt to control the economic activity that takes advantage of that road.


Thus it is not socialism.

Its a stretch of an argument but without roads and bridges, there wouldnt be near the economic activity.
80% of people who complain about socialism consider military roads and bridges basic govt functions. Without it, there would be absolutely no need for a government in the first place.. Thats why i said it was a stretch.
Its desperation.

That's exactly it. Idiot ideologues be all like "get gummint out of EVERYTHING because socialism!" --- then when you point out the power grid, the infrastructure, the skyways, etc etc etc, they go "Oh that's DIFFERENT. Basic government functions! Where's my SS check?"

It's another way of having one's definitions both ways.

SS isnt a basic govt function.
If they say that, they are dumb regardless.

Dood, you fixated on the tree. See the forest.

Im tree ******* the forest, pogo.big orgy. Dont give me that shit.
There is a difference between what socialist people want and basic govt functions. 85% of our govt isnt basic functions. Its a police state and welfare socialist bullshit

Don't play this shit Homes. Ain't nobody buying. You're cherrypicking a single word to make the post go away. That word is nothing more than the optional chewy caramel center, optional at no extra cost, a throwaway snark to the indignities of hypocrisy.

In other words it has no effect on the point at all. Watch, I'll prove it. Remove that part:

That's exactly it. Idiot ideologues be all like "get gummint out of EVERYTHING because socialism!" --- then when you point out the power grid, the infrastructure, the skyways, etc etc etc, they go "Oh that's DIFFERENT. Basic government functions!"

It's another way of having one's definitions both ways.​

See? Get the point now? And the thing is I was agreeing with you.

You suck moose cock.

 

[Yarddog]

Christian homeless shelter defends decision to turn away trans woman

A Christian homeless shelter in Alaska has defended turning away a homeless transgender woman on a cold January evening.

The Downtown Hope Center shelter in Anchorage, Alaska, is under investigation from the city’s Equal Rights Commission after a vulnerable homeless trans woman with nowhere to sleep was denied access into the women’s shelter.
Police had dropped the unnamed woman, identified as Jessie Doe, at the overnight shelter in January 2018—but twice in two days she was turned away by staff.

The average overnight January temperature in Anchorage, Alaska, is -12° Celsius (9° Fahrenheit).

Here is a "charity" that picks those it helps by criteria other than need. The US needs more socialism so that less people freeze on Winters nights. So does the UK for that matter. .

Whats pulling tens of millions of Indians and Chinese out of poverty and starvation? a socialist system? or capitalism? you know the answer.

Or put a different way, Do you see People from India flocking to Russia and Cuba for a better life? No, actually not really. they are flocking to the Capitalist hell holes like the US .. where everybody is so mean to immigrants... why would that be now?

 

[Pogo]

If you think military, roads, and bridges are "Socialism" you are now making a distinction without a difference.

Socialism is the foundation for a Capitalist venture. I never said Socialism is a function of all government.you are planting that seed. It is the building block for Capitalism when applicable. And when it is not, we are dependent on Socialism.

Socialism states that the means of production should be owned or controlled by the government as a representation of the people.


Building a road, is not an attempt to control the economic activity that takes advantage of that road.


Thus it is not socialism.

Its a stretch of an argument but without roads and bridges, there wouldnt be near the economic activity.
80% of people who complain about socialism consider military roads and bridges basic govt functions. Without it, there would be absolutely no need for a government in the first place.. Thats why i said it was a stretch.
Its desperation.

YOu need a link to know that there are other forms of fiscial policy than "command economics"?

I do? Why me? You were the one who said "no they are not". It wasn't me. You were the one who said "there were other forms of "fiscal policy" not me. Lol! Why should I produce a link from which I never made a claim to? You really are making a fool of yourself now.

Are you really stating that you are not aware of any other form of fiscal policy other than command economics? Tax cuts or spending are examples of fiscal policy. And? What about them


Not that you support any other. Are you unaware of any others EXISTING?

Command economics is fiscal policy. Our Space Race was command economics.

Who built the Saturn V?

General Motors.