A great example of why socialism is better than "charity"

[danielpalos]

Yes, there is and it is already defined. All you can do is refute the definition or appeal to ignorance of it.

No there is not.

As pointed out anything can be defined which does not make it real.

This idea is just a concept based on ignorance.

Are you appealing to ignorance of the definition anyone can find on the internet, as well?

Once again a definition means nothing. Definitions only explain a word they do not prove the word refers to something real and the natural unemployment rate is not real.

Your "definition means nothing". The economic term and definition provides metrics.

It is not an economic term it is merely a hypothetical term with zero metrics.

that is your appeal to ignorance.

One hundred percent full employment is unattainable in a market economy over the long run. Such employment is actually undesirable, because a 0% long-run unemployment rate requires a completely inflexible labor market, where laborers are unable to simply quit their current job or leave to find a better one.


According to the general equilibrium model of economics, natural unemployment is equal to the level of unemployment of a labor market at perfect equilibrium. This is the difference between workers who want a job at the current wage rate and those who are willing and able to perform such work.


Under this definition of natural unemployment, it is possible for institutional factors, such as the minimum wage or high degrees of unionization, to increase the natural rate over the long run.
Natural Unemployment

 

[Soupnazi630]

No there is not.

As pointed out anything can be defined which does not make it real.

This idea is just a concept based on ignorance.

Are you appealing to ignorance of the definition anyone can find on the internet, as well?

Once again a definition means nothing. Definitions only explain a word they do not prove the word refers to something real and the natural unemployment rate is not real.

Your "definition means nothing". The economic term and definition provides metrics.

It is not an economic term it is merely a hypothetical term with zero metrics.

that is your appeal to ignorance.

One hundred percent full employment is unattainable in a market economy over the long run. Such employment is actually undesirable, because a 0% long-run unemployment rate requires a completely inflexible labor market, where laborers are unable to simply quit their current job or leave to find a better one.


According to the general equilibrium model of economics, natural unemployment is equal to the level of unemployment of a labor market at perfect equilibrium. This is the difference between workers who want a job at the current wage rate and those who are willing and able to perform such work.


Under this definition of natural unemployment, it is possible for institutional factors, such as the minimum wage or high degrees of unionization, to increase the natural rate over the long run.
Natural Unemployment

No it is fact, you are appealing to ignorance by insisting a hypothetical idea, which few acknowledge is truth, and it is not

 

[danielpalos]

What is hypothetical about this idea?

According to the general equilibrium model of economics, natural unemployment is equal to the level of unemployment of a labor market at perfect equilibrium. This is the difference between workers who want a job at the current wage rate and those who are willing and able to perform such work.

 

[Soupnazi630]

What is hypothetical about this idea?

According to the general equilibrium model of economics, natural unemployment is equal to the level of unemployment of a labor market at perfect equilibrium. This is the difference between workers who want a job at the current wage rate and those who are willing and able to perform such work.

The fact that it applies to a MODEL which is precisely what any hypothesis is.

 

[danielpalos]

What is hypothetical about this idea?

According to the general equilibrium model of economics, natural unemployment is equal to the level of unemployment of a labor market at perfect equilibrium. This is the difference between workers who want a job at the current wage rate and those who are willing and able to perform such work.

The fact that it applies to a MODEL which is precisely what any hypothesis is.

our government has official metrics based upon that model and uses it for public policy purposes.

it is applied not merely theoretical; just another appeal to ignorance on Your part.

 

[Soupnazi630]

What is hypothetical about this idea?

According to the general equilibrium model of economics, natural unemployment is equal to the level of unemployment of a labor market at perfect equilibrium. This is the difference between workers who want a job at the current wage rate and those who are willing and able to perform such work.

The fact that it applies to a MODEL which is precisely what any hypothesis is.

our government has official metrics based upon that model and uses it for public policy purposes.

it is applied not merely theoretical; just another appeal to ignorance on Your part.

So you claim but so ar you have been wrong every time and have posted nothing but appeals to ignorance.

The government does many idiotic things so your example proves. .....................nothing.

 

[danielpalos]

What is hypothetical about this idea?

According to the general equilibrium model of economics, natural unemployment is equal to the level of unemployment of a labor market at perfect equilibrium. This is the difference between workers who want a job at the current wage rate and those who are willing and able to perform such work.

The fact that it applies to a MODEL which is precisely what any hypothesis is.

our government has official metrics based upon that model and uses it for public policy purposes.

it is applied not merely theoretical; just another appeal to ignorance on Your part.

So you claim but so ar you have been wrong every time and have posted nothing but appeals to ignorance.

The government does many idiotic things so your example proves. .....................nothing.

metrics can provide solutions.

appeals to ignorance are merely a waste of time.

 

[Soupnazi630]

What is hypothetical about this idea?

According to the general equilibrium model of economics, natural unemployment is equal to the level of unemployment of a labor market at perfect equilibrium. This is the difference between workers who want a job at the current wage rate and those who are willing and able to perform such work.

The fact that it applies to a MODEL which is precisely what any hypothesis is.

our government has official metrics based upon that model and uses it for public policy purposes.

it is applied not merely theoretical; just another appeal to ignorance on Your part.

So you claim but so ar you have been wrong every time and have posted nothing but appeals to ignorance.

The government does many idiotic things so your example proves. .....................nothing.

metrics can provide solutions.

appeals to ignorance are merely a waste of time.

No metrics simply mean a way of gauging something they do not offer a solution. I may use metrics to determine how large a fence I need but they do not help me build the fence.

 

[Papageorgio]

Christian homeless shelter defends decision to turn away trans woman

A Christian homeless shelter in Alaska has defended turning away a homeless transgender woman on a cold January evening.

The Downtown Hope Center shelter in Anchorage, Alaska, is under investigation from the city’s Equal Rights Commission after a vulnerable homeless trans woman with nowhere to sleep was denied access into the women’s shelter.
Police had dropped the unnamed woman, identified as Jessie Doe, at the overnight shelter in January 2018—but twice in two days she was turned away by staff.

The average overnight January temperature in Anchorage, Alaska, is -12° Celsius (9° Fahrenheit).

Here is a "charity" that picks those it helps by criteria other than need. The US needs more socialism so that less people freeze on Winters nights. So does the UK for that matter. .

You cite a one sided, one example from a heavily biased news source to base your opinion? Isn’t that pretty narrow minded and judgemental?

I read the story from a neutral site and the story plays out much differently, it seems your agenda comes out loud and clear. It is dishonesty at its best.

 

[Tommy Tainant]

But they have paid - that is the point of socialism.

No, the point of socialism is that they HAVEN'T paid, and they don't want to. Socialism is about making someone ELSE pay.

They have paid through their taxes. What part of that is so complicated ?

What part of "Freeloaders" is so complicated for YOU?

Who is a freeloader ?

I guess that WAS a confusing word and concept for you.

"Freeloader" refers to anyone who's taking more out of the system than they're putting back. And even at the insane, usurious tax rates your government enslaves you at, there are still more people getting out than putting back. That can easily be seen by the stats you like to ignore that tell us that people are having to wait so long for the "wonderful" services you tout that it's too late to do them any good by the time they finally get them.

NHS cancer treatment wait statistics 'set to be worst on record'

But hey, maybe you're actually dumb enough to like being a tax slave to your government in exchange for the "security" of having them care for you like an ignorant, helpless child, only to turn around and die from neglect anyway. That's your problem. But stop trying to evangelize your stupidity to the rest of the world. Understand that the whole time you're holding yourself and your putrid system out as the utopian goal we should all aspire to, we're looking at you and saying, "I don't ever, ever want to be anything like that moron."

And yet our stats on cancer treatment are far better than the US.
United Kingdom vs United States: Health Facts and Stats

Our life expectancy is better than yours as well.
United Kingdom vs United States: Health Facts and Stats

But you dickheads pay nearly 3 times more than we do to corporations that make millions out of your misfortune.
United Kingdom vs United States: Health Facts and Stats

Who is the slave ?

 

[Soupnazi630]

No, the point of socialism is that they HAVEN'T paid, and they don't want to. Socialism is about making someone ELSE pay.

They have paid through their taxes. What part of that is so complicated ?

What part of "Freeloaders" is so complicated for YOU?

Who is a freeloader ?

I guess that WAS a confusing word and concept for you.

"Freeloader" refers to anyone who's taking more out of the system than they're putting back. And even at the insane, usurious tax rates your government enslaves you at, there are still more people getting out than putting back. That can easily be seen by the stats you like to ignore that tell us that people are having to wait so long for the "wonderful" services you tout that it's too late to do them any good by the time they finally get them.

NHS cancer treatment wait statistics 'set to be worst on record'

But hey, maybe you're actually dumb enough to like being a tax slave to your government in exchange for the "security" of having them care for you like an ignorant, helpless child, only to turn around and die from neglect anyway. That's your problem. But stop trying to evangelize your stupidity to the rest of the world. Understand that the whole time you're holding yourself and your putrid system out as the utopian goal we should all aspire to, we're looking at you and saying, "I don't ever, ever want to be anything like that moron."

And yet our stats on cancer treatment are far better than the US.
United Kingdom vs United States: Health Facts and Stats

Our life expectancy is better than yours as well.
United Kingdom vs United States: Health Facts and Stats

But you dickheads pay nearly 3 times more than we do to corporations that make millions out of your misfortune.
United Kingdom vs United States: Health Facts and Stats

Who is the slave ?

Once again those who are forced to do something rather than choosing to do it are the slaves

 

[Tommy Tainant]

Christian homeless shelter defends decision to turn away trans woman

A Christian homeless shelter in Alaska has defended turning away a homeless transgender woman on a cold January evening.

The Downtown Hope Center shelter in Anchorage, Alaska, is under investigation from the city’s Equal Rights Commission after a vulnerable homeless trans woman with nowhere to sleep was denied access into the women’s shelter.
Police had dropped the unnamed woman, identified as Jessie Doe, at the overnight shelter in January 2018—but twice in two days she was turned away by staff.

The average overnight January temperature in Anchorage, Alaska, is -12° Celsius (9° Fahrenheit).

Here is a "charity" that picks those it helps by criteria other than need. The US needs more socialism so that less people freeze on Winters nights. So does the UK for that matter. .

You cite a one sided, one example from a heavily biased news source to base your opinion? Isn’t that pretty narrow minded and judgemental?

I read the story from a neutral site and the story plays out much differently, it seems your agenda comes out loud and clear. It is dishonesty at its best.

Link ?

 

[Papageorgio]

Christian homeless shelter defends decision to turn away trans woman

A Christian homeless shelter in Alaska has defended turning away a homeless transgender woman on a cold January evening.

The Downtown Hope Center shelter in Anchorage, Alaska, is under investigation from the city’s Equal Rights Commission after a vulnerable homeless trans woman with nowhere to sleep was denied access into the women’s shelter.
Police had dropped the unnamed woman, identified as Jessie Doe, at the overnight shelter in January 2018—but twice in two days she was turned away by staff.

The average overnight January temperature in Anchorage, Alaska, is -12° Celsius (9° Fahrenheit).

Here is a "charity" that picks those it helps by criteria other than need. The US needs more socialism so that less people freeze on Winters nights. So does the UK for that matter. .

You cite a one sided, one example from a heavily biased news source to base your opinion? Isn’t that pretty narrow minded and judgemental?

I read the story from a neutral site and the story plays out much differently, it seems your agenda comes out loud and clear. It is dishonesty at its best.

Link ?

Took me a couple seconds to find more stories on this, not sure what you can’t find them, maybe it is willful agenda ignorance on your part.

Here is your silly link. Tons more if you google it.

https://www.usnews.com/news/best-st...-hear-arguments-in-anchorage-transgender-case

 

[danielpalos]

What is hypothetical about this idea?

The fact that it applies to a MODEL which is precisely what any hypothesis is.

our government has official metrics based upon that model and uses it for public policy purposes.

it is applied not merely theoretical; just another appeal to ignorance on Your part.

So you claim but so ar you have been wrong every time and have posted nothing but appeals to ignorance.

The government does many idiotic things so your example proves. .....................nothing.

metrics can provide solutions.

appeals to ignorance are merely a waste of time.

No metrics simply mean a way of gauging something they do not offer a solution. I may use metrics to determine how large a fence I need but they do not help me build the fence.

metrics help you determine the type and quantity of material to be used.

 

[Soupnazi630]

The fact that it applies to a MODEL which is precisely what any hypothesis is.

our government has official metrics based upon that model and uses it for public policy purposes.

it is applied not merely theoretical; just another appeal to ignorance on Your part.

So you claim but so ar you have been wrong every time and have posted nothing but appeals to ignorance.

The government does many idiotic things so your example proves. .....................nothing.

metrics can provide solutions.

appeals to ignorance are merely a waste of time.

No metrics simply mean a way of gauging something they do not offer a solution. I may use metrics to determine how large a fence I need but they do not help me build the fence.

metrics help you determine the type and quantity of material to be used.

Which does no good if you don't do the labor to build it which is precisely what happens with socialism

It only takes away it never builds.

 

[Tommy Tainant]

Christian homeless shelter defends decision to turn away trans woman

A Christian homeless shelter in Alaska has defended turning away a homeless transgender woman on a cold January evening.

The Downtown Hope Center shelter in Anchorage, Alaska, is under investigation from the city’s Equal Rights Commission after a vulnerable homeless trans woman with nowhere to sleep was denied access into the women’s shelter.
Police had dropped the unnamed woman, identified as Jessie Doe, at the overnight shelter in January 2018—but twice in two days she was turned away by staff.

The average overnight January temperature in Anchorage, Alaska, is -12° Celsius (9° Fahrenheit).

Here is a "charity" that picks those it helps by criteria other than need. The US needs more socialism so that less people freeze on Winters nights. So does the UK for that matter. .

You cite a one sided, one example from a heavily biased news source to base your opinion? Isn’t that pretty narrow minded and judgemental?

I read the story from a neutral site and the story plays out much differently, it seems your agenda comes out loud and clear. It is dishonesty at its best.

Link ?

Took me a couple seconds to find more stories on this, not sure what you can’t find them, maybe it is willful agenda ignorance on your part.

Here is your silly link. Tons more if you google it.

https://www.usnews.com/news/best-st...-hear-arguments-in-anchorage-transgender-case

Yes I read that one as well. It quotes their lawyer and only gives one side of the story.
The thing is their case is not that she was drunk or abusive. Their case is that she is a man. Which brings us back to the OP. You need to read your own links matey.

 

[Papageorgio]

Christian homeless shelter defends decision to turn away trans woman

A Christian homeless shelter in Alaska has defended turning away a homeless transgender woman on a cold January evening.

The Downtown Hope Center shelter in Anchorage, Alaska, is under investigation from the city’s Equal Rights Commission after a vulnerable homeless trans woman with nowhere to sleep was denied access into the women’s shelter.
Police had dropped the unnamed woman, identified as Jessie Doe, at the overnight shelter in January 2018—but twice in two days she was turned away by staff.

The average overnight January temperature in Anchorage, Alaska, is -12° Celsius (9° Fahrenheit).

Here is a "charity" that picks those it helps by criteria other than need. The US needs more socialism so that less people freeze on Winters nights. So does the UK for that matter. .

You cite a one sided, one example from a heavily biased news source to base your opinion? Isn’t that pretty narrow minded and judgemental?

I read the story from a neutral site and the story plays out much differently, it seems your agenda comes out loud and clear. It is dishonesty at its best.

Link ?

Took me a couple seconds to find more stories on this, not sure what you can’t find them, maybe it is willful agenda ignorance on your part.

Here is your silly link. Tons more if you google it.

https://www.usnews.com/news/best-st...-hear-arguments-in-anchorage-transgender-case

Yes I read that one as well. It quotes their lawyer and only gives one side of the story.
The thing is their case is not that she was drunk or abusive. Their case is that she is a man. Which brings us back to the OP. You need to read your own links matey.

So you are all for an intoxicated man sleeping in the same room as victimized women. The women in shelters have been abused and victimized all their lives and you want to do it again. We can’t this man go to a men’s shelter or a coed shelter? Lots of other options yet you chose to victimize women.

 

[deanrd]

Christian homeless shelter defends decision to turn away trans woman

A Christian homeless shelter in Alaska has defended turning away a homeless transgender woman on a cold January evening.

The Downtown Hope Center shelter in Anchorage, Alaska, is under investigation from the city’s Equal Rights Commission after a vulnerable homeless trans woman with nowhere to sleep was denied access into the women’s shelter.
Police had dropped the unnamed woman, identified as Jessie Doe, at the overnight shelter in January 2018—but twice in two days she was turned away by staff.

The average overnight January temperature in Anchorage, Alaska, is -12° Celsius (9° Fahrenheit).

Here is a "charity" that picks those it helps by criteria other than need. The US needs more socialism so that less people freeze on Winters nights. So does the UK for that matter. .

If Democrats didn't practice "charity", Red States would starve.

 

[Papageorgio]

Christian homeless shelter defends decision to turn away trans woman

A Christian homeless shelter in Alaska has defended turning away a homeless transgender woman on a cold January evening.

The Downtown Hope Center shelter in Anchorage, Alaska, is under investigation from the city’s Equal Rights Commission after a vulnerable homeless trans woman with nowhere to sleep was denied access into the women’s shelter.
Police had dropped the unnamed woman, identified as Jessie Doe, at the overnight shelter in January 2018—but twice in two days she was turned away by staff.

The average overnight January temperature in Anchorage, Alaska, is -12° Celsius (9° Fahrenheit).

Here is a "charity" that picks those it helps by criteria other than need. The US needs more socialism so that less people freeze on Winters nights. So does the UK for that matter. .

If Democrats didn't practice "charity", Red States would starve.

More of your partisan BS. You are disgusting and dishonest.

 

[Tommy Tainant]

Christian homeless shelter defends decision to turn away trans woman

A Christian homeless shelter in Alaska has defended turning away a homeless transgender woman on a cold January evening.

The Downtown Hope Center shelter in Anchorage, Alaska, is under investigation from the city’s Equal Rights Commission after a vulnerable homeless trans woman with nowhere to sleep was denied access into the women’s shelter.
Police had dropped the unnamed woman, identified as Jessie Doe, at the overnight shelter in January 2018—but twice in two days she was turned away by staff.

The average overnight January temperature in Anchorage, Alaska, is -12° Celsius (9° Fahrenheit).

Here is a "charity" that picks those it helps by criteria other than need. The US needs more socialism so that less people freeze on Winters nights. So does the UK for that matter. .

You cite a one sided, one example from a heavily biased news source to base your opinion? Isn’t that pretty narrow minded and judgemental?

I read the story from a neutral site and the story plays out much differently, it seems your agenda comes out loud and clear. It is dishonesty at its best.

Link ?

Took me a couple seconds to find more stories on this, not sure what you can’t find them, maybe it is willful agenda ignorance on your part.

Here is your silly link. Tons more if you google it.

https://www.usnews.com/news/best-st...-hear-arguments-in-anchorage-transgender-case

Yes I read that one as well. It quotes their lawyer and only gives one side of the story.
The thing is their case is not that she was drunk or abusive. Their case is that she is a man. Which brings us back to the OP. You need to read your own links matey.

So you are all for an intoxicated man sleeping in the same room as victimized women. The women in shelters have been abused and victimized all their lives and you want to do it again. We can’t this man go to a men’s shelter or a coed shelter? Lots of other options yet you chose to victimize women.

Shes a woman.