Zone1 A Great Authority Given Unto the Apostles of The Church of Jesus Christ

[hobelim]

The holy scriptures are objective in the fact they have existed for over 3500 years and they are based upon the prima facie evidence presented by "eyewitness" accounts. Thus,,,,,,,,,,,,your subjective claim void of any objective evidence, "

Nonsense. Many things recorded in scripture were eyewitness accounts of what was seen and heard in visions and dreams, the medium through which my God communicates with people.

The objective evidence according to reality, not the delusions of your unrestrained imagination, is that such things like Jesus popping in and out of locked rooms, or Ezekiel flying from Babylon to the temple in Jerusalem by an angel holding his hair only to dig through 14 feet of solid stone with his bare hands to 'see' the corruption, or the transfiguration which says the disciples fell into "a deep sleep", the ascension, or Abraham talking with angels in the heat of the day when people took siestas etc. can only be true "eyewitness accounts" if they were seen and heard in a dream.

Thats a fact.

Snap out of it. Your mind has been defiled and contaminated by bread baked on human dung.

 

[hobelim]

Hobelim

So what are you trying to say here?

Moses was a religious fanatic like me? Was Jesus a religious fanatic too, or did all three of us try to improve the quality of life for people brainwashed by superstitious religious flotsam by teaching people to stand guard over the sanctity of ones own mind in order to experience life to the fullest?

Sane.

I am deeply sorry if this offends your delicate sensibilities being such a devoted religious poser.

 

[hobelim]

Jesus did not ascend into HELL.

Right.

Jesus ascended into heaven which implies that he first descended into hell where he remained til he repented, came to life, and "heaven opened up to him". Then he ascended into heaven, little by little, day by day, until he was crucified "taken up". The funny thing is that even after Jesus was baptized by John as a token of repentance for the forgiveness of sins he never stopped eating drinking and partying with "sinners" "bad company" openly "keeping company" with prostitutes.

Thats why many said "we know this man is a sinner!" And if the Law is to be taken literally he was.
So why did Jesus say that he was without sin by saying "I always do exactly as God commands"?

What does that tell you? THINK!

You can do it!

 

[ding]

So what are you trying to say here?

Moses was a religious fanatic like me? Was Jesus a religious fanatic too, or did all three of us try to improve the quality of life for people brainwashed by superstitious religious flotsam by teaching people to stand guard over the sanctity of ones own mind in order to experience life to the fullest?

Sane.

I am deeply sorry if this offends your delicate sensibilities being such a devoted religious poser.

I’m not trying to say it. I am saying it. You are a religious nutjob.

 

[ding]

What does that tell you?

That you are an idiot.

all of Israel will be saved.

I bear the great seal of the living God. Prophecy fulfilled.

every time you defy the law of my God

I can't see the good in doing what has been forbidden by my God.

you act like you can escape the hand of my God in this world or the next

You brazenly defy the Law that prohibits idolatry

 

[hobelim]

I’m not trying to say it. I am saying it. You are a religious nutjob.

Alrighty then. So you admit of your own free will that I am a religious nutjob comparable to Moses?

Or Jesus?

Okey dokey!

I am honored to be in such esteemed company. You pretentious phony reprehensible "believer" lol

Maybe you can accumulate enough lies or eat enough Matzos to buy back your blackened soul.

Good luck! I'll pray for you! lol

 

[ding]

Alrighty then. So you admit of your own free will that I am a religious nutjob comparable to Moses?

Or Jesus?

Okey dokey!

I am honored to be in such esteemed company.

No. That's you making that leap in logic. You are more like the crazy guy on the street corner with a sign.

all of Israel will be saved.

I bear the great seal of the living God. Prophecy fulfilled.

every time you defy the law of my God

I can't see the good in doing what has been forbidden by my God.

you act like you can escape the hand of my God in this world or the next

You brazenly defy the Law that prohibits idolatry

 

[hobelim]

No. That's you making that leap in logic. You are more like the crazy guy on the street corner with a sign.

Yet you posted a picture of Moses to compare me to a "nutjob". You really do suck at lying dude.
You should find another hobby. Who is going to believe that you are a believer now? Schnook.

You are hereby dismissed as an actor and lying fraud.

 

[ding]

Yet you posted a picture of Moses to compare me to a "nutjob". You really do suck at lying dude.
You should find another hobby. Who is going to believe that you are a believer now? Schnook.

You are hereby dismissed as an actor and lying fraud.

You need to try harder. You suck at trolling.

all of Israel will be saved.

I bear the great seal of the living God. Prophecy fulfilled.

every time you defy the law of my God

I can't see the good in doing what has been forbidden by my God.

you act like you can escape the hand of my God in this world or the next

You brazenly defy the Law that prohibits idolatry

 

[hobelim]

You need to try harder.

Nonsense. Your own words and deeds have condemned you. I don't even have to lift a finger.

Well, maybe just one.

You are already dead, in hell, and well along the way that leads to endless destruction. I alerted you to the error of your vile beliefs and degrading practices and revealed the only way to follow the Law that leads to eternal life as taught by Jesus, an ordinary 1st century froward Jewish man.

You have chosen to live out the rest of your days under an irrational and superstitious delusion.

I'm satisfied.

Enjoy!

 

[ding]

Nonsense. Your own words and deeds have condemned you. I don't even have to lift a finger.

Well, maybe just one.

You are already dead, in hell, and well along the way that leads to endless destruction. I alerted you to the error of your vile beliefs and degrading practices and revealed the only way to follow the Law that leads to eternal life as taught by Jesus, an ordinary 1st century froward Jewish man.

You have chosen to live out the rest of your days under an irrational and superstitious delusion.

I'm satisfied.

Enjoy!

all of Israel will be saved.

I bear the great seal of the living God. Prophecy fulfilled.

every time you defy the law of my God

I can't see the good in doing what has been forbidden by my God.

you act like you can escape the hand of my God in this world or the next

You brazenly defy the Law that prohibits idolatry

You are already dead, in hell, and well along the way that leads to endless destruction.

 

[hobelim]

I see that paying you back in your own coin has sent you over the deep end. What a shame!

all of Israel will be saved.

Oh well.

You got me with your "proof" that I am a religious nutjob. I guess you never read Romans 11:26..

"I do not want you to be ignorant of this mystery, brothers, so that you will not be conceited: A hardening in part has come to Israel, until the full number of the Gentiles has come in. And so all Israel will be saved".

And I thought that you were a faithful and true mangod eating bonafide Catholic "believer"!

The time of the gentiles are being fulfilled in full view of everyone whatever they profess to believe

so piss off.

There isn't a damn thing you can do about it. It has already been done.

 

[ding]

I see that paying you back in your own coin has sent you over the deep end. What a shame!


Oh well.

You got me with your "proof" that I am a religious nutjob. I guess you never read Romans 11:26..

"I do not want you to be ignorant of this mystery, brothers, so that you will not be conceited: A hardening in part has come to Israel, until the full number of the Gentiles has come in. And so all Israel will be saved".

And I thought that you were a faithful and true mangod eating bonafide Catholic "believer"!

The time of the gentiles are being fulfilled in full view of everyone whatever they profess to believe

so piss off.

There isn't a damn thing you can do about it. It has already been done.

Fanatical religious nutjob says wut?

all of Israel will be saved.

I bear the great seal of the living God. Prophecy fulfilled.

every time you defy the law of my God

I can't see the good in doing what has been forbidden by my God.

you act like you can escape the hand of my God in this world or the next

You brazenly defy the Law that prohibits idolatry

You are already dead, in hell, and well along the way that leads to endless destruction.

 

[hadit]

If you knew anything about The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints you would know that Joseph was not married to these women for time but only for eternity. In other words, while on this earth these women would remain the wives of their husbands but because their husbands did not believe in eternal marriage nor in the church, when dead, their marital contract with their wives would end. However, because they were sealed to Joseph Smith, they will be his wives in eternity. This allows these faithful women to progress in the eternities due to their faith while their mortal husbands refused such a marriage and won't be allowed to hold their faithful wives back for all eternity.

There's a problem with that. Jesus, who outranks JS, stated unequivocally that there would be no marrying or giving in marriage in the resurrection. Therefore, JS has no claim to those women.

 

[onefour1]

There's a problem with that. Jesus, who outranks JS, stated unequivocally that there would be no marrying or giving in marriage in the resurrection. Therefore, JS has no claim to those women.

There is no marrying or giving in marriage in the resurrection. What this means is that once a person is resurrected they cannot be married in heaven. However, this does not apply to this earth prior to being resurrected. Thus the power to seal on earth and have it sealed in heaven is valid so far as the sealing or binding occurs here on the earth prior to the resurrection. This is why Peter and other leaders in the true church of Jesus Christ are able to bind on earth and bind in heaven while here on the earth. The bindings or sealings we do here on earth through the power of this priesthood power are recognized in heaven. In heaven they don't marry or give in marriage but it must be done on the earth before the resurrection. That is the true meaning of the verse you refer to. The verse isn't saying that there is nobody that is married in heaven but that they do not perform marriages in heaven but only here upon the earth. Civil marriages are not binding in heaven but must be sealed through the priesthood power that allows it to be bound in heaven. Thus the great work in our temples to seal our marriages not only for time but for all eternity.

 

[Cougarbear]

There is no marrying or giving in marriage in the resurrection. What this means is that once a person is resurrected they cannot be married in heaven. However, this does not apply to this earth prior to being resurrected. Thus the power to seal on earth and have it sealed in heaven is valid so far as the sealing or binding occurs here on the earth prior to the resurrection. This is why Peter and other leaders in the true church of Jesus Christ are able to bind on earth and bind in heaven while here on the earth. The bindings or sealings we do here on earth through the power of this priesthood power are recognized in heaven. In heaven they don't marry or give in marriage but it must be done on the earth before the resurrection. That is the true meaning of the verse you refer to. The verse isn't saying that there is nobody that is married in heaven but that they do not perform marriages in heaven but only here upon the earth.

It's amazing how many people are unable to comprehend with what they read in the Bible. A lot of that is because they don't understand the context in which the words are given. They don't have the fulness of the Gospel, the big picture, that has been restored. You know, Elijah and Moses came to Peter and gave Peter the authority of the priesthood power they held. Elijah was over the keys of families in heaven doctrine. Most Christians believe the Priesthood is only within Jesus Christ and his believers therefore hold the Priesthood too. Yet, at the Mt. of Transfiguration, it's clear the priesthood was given to Peter to carry on. It's why he spoke about spirit prison and doing missionary work in spirit prison for the dead so they can receive that which they would have accepted if they learned about Christ properly in the flesh. And, why Paul spoke about baptisms for the Dead because the dead do rise up.

 

[onefour1]

Of course JESUS lied to the thief on the cross........He (Jesus) went to heaven while the thief went to Hades? The Holy Scriptures are lying,

I think you need a refresher in reading comprehension. I never stated that Jesus went directly to heaven upon his death! Read it again.

your cult cannot possibly misrepresent the scriptures in order to mold its doctrine in order to agree with the scriptures.

Jesus declared, "Truly, I say to you (the thief) TODAY I will be with you in paradise........" -- Luke 23:33 Jesus never mentioned Heaven....but Peter explained just where the Christ went while His body was in the tomb. "For Christ also suffered once for sins, the righteous for unrighteous, that He might bring us to God, being put to death in the flesh but made alive IN THE SPIRIT, in which (THE SPIRIT) He went and proclaimed (taught, instructed, preached.......in the Koine Greek) TO THE SPIRITS IN PRISON -- 1 Peter 3: 18-19 (Hades the realm of the dead -- Rev. 20:14 This is known as the 2nd death).

Clearly Hades is the realm of the dead that are imprisoned until judgment day
.........in order for there to be a 2nd death, there must be a 1st death (everyone dies (Heb. 9:27.........once.... the 1st is a physical death, just like Jesus died physically, He alone was the 1st to conquer death, then comes the 2nd death.....Hell for those who did not obey along with their master Satan. (Rev. 20)


Jesus did not ascend into Heaven until 40 days after His resurrection, Acts 1:3 You lied when you "opined" new scripture into existence that has never existed, Jesus never went to Heaven at death, His spirit went to Hades to preach to those in prison awaiting judgment day. (Luke 16)


).........He did not ascend into Heaven at death.........His spirit went to Hades to preach to the dead. (Luke 16) while His flesh remained in the tomb, Jesus did not arise to walk among the Apostles for 40 days until the 3rd day after His physical death. When He came out of the tomb He was flesh and blood not a spirit (Luke 24:39).

What you fail to understand is that "paradise" is not in heaven. Among the spirits that have physically died, there are two places. Some of the spirits were righteous while on the earth and are in a place known as "paradise". Those who rejected the gospel or never had the chance to accept in here on earth are in a place known as "spirit prison". Before Jesus' resurrection, Jesus went among the spirits who are dead and organized the righteous spirits in paradise to go among the unrighteous in spirit prison to teach them the gospel. This did not occur in heaven. You are correct that Jesus did ascend to heaven right after his death but his spirit went among the spirits who are the dead and preached the gospel. Reread what I wrote in my previous post and maybe this time you will get what I am saying. After Jesus organized the spirits in the spirit world, he then resurrected and later ascended to heaven.

When Jesus comes back to earth from Heaven it will not be to establish a kingdom, but to Judge the quick and the dead, (game over, judgment day) as He will never place a foot on the earth ever again after His ascension into Heaven (Acts 1:3).........when He comes back to gather His bride (the church/kingdom of Christ) He will meet them in the SKY.......not on earth. "Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds -- 1 Thess 4:17 (Jesus will come back in the same manner in which He left earth, in the clouds -- Acts 1) Jesus can never rule over a physical kingdom on earth.......He sets as the King of Kings in Heaven on a spiritual throne of David (Acts 2). This kingdom has always rested in a spiritual place.....within the heart of those who faithfully believe (Luke 17:21)

Jesus comes back from Heaven to judge the quick and the dead. When Jesus makes an appearance again, it will be, "I charge thee therefore before God, and the Lord Jesus Christ, who shall judge the quick(living) and the dead at His appearance and His kingdom." -- 2 Tim. 4:1

When Jesus comes again at his second coming, the righteous will ascend into the clouds of heaven to meet him. This happens when Jesus comes again in all his glory. However, before this time, he will come and set his foot again upon the Mount of Olives and it will cleave in twain and he will save the Jews from destruction (see Malachi 4). After Jesus makes his second coming, he will reign as king over all the earth and dwell with men on the earth for a thousand years.

Doctrine and Covenants 29:11
11 For I will reveal myself from heaven with power and great glory, with all the hosts thereof, and dwell in righteousness with men on earth a thousand years, and the wicked shall not stand.

 

[Cougarbear]

Of course JESUS lied to the thief on the cross........He (Jesus) went to heaven while the thief went to Hades? The Holy Scriptures are lying, your cult cannot possibly misrepresent the scriptures in order to mold its doctrine in order to agree with the scriptures.

Jesus declared, "Truly, I say to you (the thief) TODAY I will be with you in paradise........" -- Luke 23:33 Jesus never mentioned Heaven....but Peter explained just where the Christ went while His body was in the tomb. "For Christ also suffered once for sins, the righteous for unrighteous, that He might bring us to God, being put to death in the flesh but made alive IN THE SPIRIT, in which (THE SPIRIT) He went and proclaimed (taught, instructed, preached.......in the Koine Greek) TO THE SPIRITS IN PRISON -- 1 Peter 3: 18-19 (Hades the realm of the dead -- Rev. 20:14 This is known as the 2nd death).

Clearly Hades is the realm of the dead that are imprisoned until judgment day
.........in order for there to be a 2nd death, there must be a 1st death (everyone dies (Heb. 9:27.........once.... the 1st is a physical death, just like Jesus died physically, He alone was the 1st to conquer death, then comes the 2nd death.....Hell for those who did not obey along with their master Satan. (Rev. 20)


Jesus did not ascend into Heaven until 40 days after His resurrection, Acts 1:3 You lied when you "opined" new scripture into existence that has never existed, Jesus never went to Heaven at death, His spirit went to Hades to preach to those in prison awaiting judgment day. (Luke 16)


).........He did not ascend into Heaven at death.........His spirit went to Hades to preach to the dead. (Luke 16) while His flesh remained in the tomb, Jesus did not arise to walk among the Apostles for 40 days until the 3rd day after His physical death. When He came out of the tomb He was flesh and blood not a spirit (Luke 24:39).


When Jesus comes back to earth from Heaven it will not be to establish a kingdom, but to Judge the quick and the dead, (game over, judgment day) as He will never place a foot on the earth ever again after His ascension into Heaven (Acts 1:3).........when He comes back to gather His bride (the church/kingdom of Christ) He will meet them in the SKY.......not on earth. "Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds -- 1 Thess 4:17 (Jesus will come back in the same manner in which He left earth, in the clouds -- Acts 1) Jesus can never rule over a physical kingdom on earth.......He sets as the King of Kings in Heaven on a spiritual throne of David (Acts 2). This kingdom has always rested in a spiritual place.....within the heart of those who faithfully believe (Luke 17:21)

Jesus comes back from Heaven to judge the quick and the dead. When Jesus makes an appearance again, it will be, "I charge thee therefore before God, and the Lord Jesus Christ, who shall judge the quick(living) and the dead at His appearance and His kingdom." -- 2 Tim. 4:1

The kingdom Jesus leads is already back on Earth, The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. That's to differentiate the time when Jesus walked the earth in former times. The 2nd coming of the Lord is not just a onetime event. It will be a multiple event. As Onefour1 said, Jesus will first part the Mt. of Olives as stated clearly in Zacharia12:10 and chapter 13:6. We also teach that Jesus will come either before or after to Adam-Ondi_Ahman, the place where Adam dwelt, and the Prophets of old and new shall bring with them the keys of the Priesthood, hand them to Adam who will hand them to the Lord Jesus Christ.
You also seem to forget that after his second coming, there will be still a thousand years the earth will exist in peace as Satan is bound in spirit prison for those thousand years and then let loose again. Since there will be peace on earth for that time period, who will be there? The wicked? No. There will be good people in all the earth that will live in peace and harmony. We believe that all who have lived will be made known so that their baptisms and other ordinances can be performed on earth for them vicariously. 1Cor. 15:29. Why do we believe this? Because it is clear that the only way to Heaven is by way of baptism of water and of the spirit. John 3:5. That is clear. So, what about those who never had a chance to hear the Gospel of Jesus Christ even the Law of Moses? Should they be damned forever because they weren't born at the right time and the right place? Such utter ignorance and hatred of people to think this way. So, read 1Peter 3:18-22 and 1Peter 4:5-6 and you will see Onefour1 is correct about the spirits of those who have died without the real opportunity that you have had will get than opportunity. Then, they will be judged because of how they did live under their laws righteously choosing good over evil and how the Lord knows them and knows how they would have lived if they were born at the right place at the right time to have access to His Gospel.
How many times do you have to be presented with these concepts in the Bible before you will unharden your heart and accept the Lord's doctrines and commandments?

 

[TruthNotBS]

Got it. The Bible says it is true, and nothing should be added or removed. The Koran says about the same thing. Almost every other major religion's main text makes the same claim. All the others are just made-up shit, but yours is true because the guy with the magic hat says it is true. Thanks for clearing that up for me.

First of all, you're in the religious section, so clean your tongue. You have no right to come here with your profanities. This is a Zone 1 section, which means no profanity/nasty language.

You reject the supernatural or "paranormal". OK, so I'll say this. The only way as a convinced, committed atheist and materialist, to test and see if there is more to reality than what can be detected with your scientific instruments, is by placing yourself in an environment where you can experience the supernatural. Unfortunately, here in the USA, there aren't too many church congregations like this:

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People getting healed of deadly diseases, the manifestation of angels, and other miracles. The most impressive miracle of them all, is when your hard-heart of stone is touched by the Holy Spirit and you're transformed into a new creation of God. Your life is transformed, and that includes your desires, the way you feel and think, your bad habits and addictions are flushed down the latrine.

If you have a bad temper, or you are dealing with lust and other issues, God through His Holy Spirit, in the powerful, amazing Name of Jesus Christ, will set you free. The scales will fall from your eyes, allowing you to know and experience God's supernatural presence and power. If you humbly seek them, you can and will receive the gifts of the Holy Spirit, which will further prove to you that God and His Kingdom are real and not just figments of people's imagination.

Now Bulldog, that's the best route to take to experience the supernatural. You need to find a church congregation, that preaches the true, biblical gospel of Jesus Christ and acknowledges the reality of the Holy Spirit, with all of its power and gifts. You will be baptized in the Holy Ghost, which is the imminent presence of God in this physical world.

However, if you choose not to take the best, safest, most rewarding route to experience the supernatural, which is to seek God in the right church congregation, then you're left with the most hazardous, potentially destructive route, that can lead you into demonic oppression and possession. I hope you choose not to take this other route, but if you have the choice between remaining under the strong delusion of atheist materialism or looking into what I am about to show you, then I hope, for your own sake, you opt to seriously research this:

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Scole Experiments:

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Marcello Bacci:

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German ITC scientists/researchers:

Ernst Senkowski and Hans Otto Konig...

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ANABELA CARDOSO:

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Those radios at the top of the list, are "spirit boxes", also known as "ghost boxes" or radio-sweepers. They sweep through the channels and the spirits form words, sentences, from that noise, answering your questions. I tried it before I was a Christian, and I established with several spirits, who answered many of my questions. Direct, clear answers. You can buy a used spirit box on ebay. The used ones usually have spirits attached to them. I also experienced poltergeist activity when I was conducting my research. Most if not all of these spirits are demonic. Demons. You're not talking to your aunt Betty or someone you love who has passed away. These spirits lie.

Anyone can be influenced by destructive spirits. Be careful. As a genuine truth seeker, let the evidence guide you. Ask yourself these questions. Why are so many spirits asking for help? If these spirits exist, can't God and His angels exist? Who are the entities that are identifying themselves as demons? Could it be that Jesus is truly one who saves souls from being lost in the abyss? Could it be that the material world isn't what it seems? Could it be that our interpretation of history, from a naturalistic perspective isn't the full story? Godspeed, I wish you well.

 

[BULLDOG]

First of all, you're in the religious section, so clean your tongue. You have no right to come here with your profanities. This is a Zone 1 section, which means no profanity/nasty language.

You reject the supernatural or "paranormal". OK, so I'll say this. The only way as a convinced, committed atheist and materialist, to test and see if there is more to reality than what can be detected with your scientific instruments, is by placing yourself in an environment where you can experience the supernatural. Unfortunately, here in the USA, there aren't too many church congregations like this:

​

People getting healed of deadly diseases, the manifestation of angels, and other miracles. The most impressive miracle of them all, is when your hard-heart of stone is touched by the Holy Spirit and you're transformed into a new creation of God. Your life is transformed, and that includes your desires, the way you feel and think, your bad habits and addictions are flushed down the latrine.

If you have a bad temper, or you are dealing with lust and other issues, God through His Holy Spirit, in the powerful, amazing Name of Jesus Christ, will set you free. The scales will fall from your eyes, allowing you to know and experience God's supernatural presence and power. If you humbly seek them, you can and will receive the gifts of the Holy Spirit, which will further prove to you that God and His Kingdom are real and not just figments of people's imagination.

Now Bulldog, that's the best route to take to experience the supernatural. You need to find a church congregation, that preaches the true, biblical gospel of Jesus Christ and acknowledges the reality of the Holy Spirit, with all of its power and gifts. You will be baptized in the Holy Ghost, which is the imminent presence of God in this physical world.

However, if you choose not to take the best, safest, most rewarding route to experience the supernatural, which is to seek God in the right church congregation, then you're left with the most hazardous, potentially destructive route, that can lead you into demonic oppression and possession. I hope you choose not to take this other route, but if you have the choice between remaining under the strong delusion of atheist materialism or looking into what I am about to show you, then I hope, for your own sake, you opt to seriously research this:

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Scole Experiments:

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Marcello Bacci:

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German ITC scientists/researchers:

Ernst Senkowski and Hans Otto Konig...

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ANABELA CARDOSO:

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Anyone can be influenced by destructive spirits. Be careful. Not all spirits are good. As genuine truth seekers, let the evidence guide you. Ask yourself this question. Why are so many spirits asking for help? If these spirits exist, can't God and His angels exist? Who are the entities that are identifying themselves as demons? Could it be that Jesus is truly one who saves souls from being lost in the abyss? Could it be that the material world isn't what it seems? Could it be that our interpretation of history, from a naturalistic perspective isn't the full story?

You obviously know nothing about me. I was born and raised in a devout Christian home and spent most of my life believing all the things I had been taught. I was even a deacon for a while. Only after retirement did I embark on an in-depth study of the Bible. My reasoning was that a better understanding of what I believed would make me a better Christian and better prepared to help lead others to Christ. The deeper I delved into stories in the bible, the less I was convinced that the faith I held for most of my life was true. Furthermore, if a God did exist, he was not a loving forgiving God as I had always believed. The God of the Bible seemed to be petty and hateful, and not worthy of worship, even if he did exist. I greatly wish I still had the faith I once did. It's wonderful to believe there is an omnipotent being that loves and cares about me and is there to help and protect me. I greatly miss the comfort I felt and would immediately revert to the beliefs I once held, if I could only slightly justify such devotion. Sadly, I can't.