A conversation that didn't happen, but should have.

[Contumacious]

A conversation that didn't happen, but should have

Did the Obama Administration , the CDC, Dr Anthony Fauci and the Pentagon converse ?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?


For the Obama Administration, the CDC and Dr Anthony Fauci to have prevented the Pentagon from weaponizing the coronavirus !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[berg80]

HOW the fuck were "intelligence agencies issuing ominous reports "

By taking facts, compiling them in the prez's PDB, and briefing the Adulterer-in-Chief with the most likely outcome of the virus spreading in the US and the world. You know...........the briefings Trump ignored.

 

[Mac-7]

Berg, list your actions and dates if you were POTUS. Be specific.

Honestly, do you sincerely hope to bury the incompetence and inaction of this president with the "be specific" deflection that his supporters constantly invoke?
So I'll be specific, the warning flags and seriousness about implementing control of this virus should have started with Trump flying home from Davos on January 22nd and try to re-assemble the NSC response team that he had disbanded. Government agencies, Governors, business leaders should have all been on conference calls. Enabling the states to respond should have started right then. The action we didn't see until March 13th could have been rolling almost two month earlier.

But it was more important to campaign and shadow the Democrats running against him at his pep rallies than it was to do his job.

Here you go. A timeline for you.
'Not Concerned at All': A Timeline of Trump's Coronavirus Dismissals

That specific enough for you?

Yes, I love it. Most posters are too bitch to post specifics.

Based on your response, we would have had less than 200 fatalities at this point?

Maybe, maybe not. I doubt it but the point is we would have been better prepared to handle the public health angle and perhaps mitigate economic impact. I'm not holding Trump responsible for the virus. Global travel and movement would make that almost impossible. But I will hold him responsible for the absolute disaster that the response has been and his dismantling and funding cuts to the very programs that could have helped.

No cuts were made, come on man.

Cite the budgets for the entities you are concerned about and their budget cuts.

Start with the CDC. How much was the CDC budget cut? Just list a number.

Oh Lordy...I think we've covered this multiple times in other threads...but into the abyss we jump once more....

I'll forgo the Snopes article which has the final word on this and try another tack.
Trump administration budget cuts could become a major problem as coronavirus spreads

Please, tell the public...How Trump could have made 'cuts' when the House of Representatives haven't sent the President a budget for at least ten years???

true

all we get from the House are continuing resolutions

 

[georgephillip]

A conversation that didn't happen, but should have

Did the Obama Administration , the CDC, Dr Anthony Fauci and the Pentagon converse ?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?


For the Obama Administration, the CDC and Dr Anthony Fauci to have prevented the Pentagon from weaponizing the coronavirus !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Your link:

"Rebecca Moritz, who is responsible for overseeing Wisconsin’s work on 'select agents' such as influenza virus, said that Professor Kawaoka’s work on 2009 H1N1 is looking at the changes to the virus that are needed for existing vaccines to become ineffective.

"'With that being said, this work is not to create a new strain of influenza with pandemic potential, but [to] model the immune-pressure the virus is currently facing in our bodies to escape our defences,' Ms Moritz said."

 

[Contumacious]

A conversation that didn't happen, but should have

Did the Obama Administration , the CDC, Dr Anthony Fauci and the Pentagon converse ?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?


For the Obama Administration, the CDC and Dr Anthony Fauci to have prevented the Pentagon from weaponizing the coronavirus !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Your link:

"Rebecca Moritz, who is responsible for overseeing Wisconsin’s work on 'select agents' such as influenza virus, said that Professor Kawaoka’s work on 2009 H1N1 is looking at the changes to the virus that are needed for existing vaccines to become ineffective.

"'With that being said, this work is not to create a new strain of influenza with pandemic potential, but [to] model the immune-pressure the virus is currently facing in our bodies to escape our defences,' Ms Moritz said."

Is Rebecca Moritz, who is responsible for overseeing Wisconsin’s work on 'select agents, conflicted by interest because she doesn's want the research grants to stop?

A controversial scientist who carried out provocative research on making influenza viruses more infectious has completed his most dangerous experiment to date by deliberately creating a pandemic strain of flu that can evade the human immune system.

What does more infectious means?

What does evading the human immune system means?

Why did the Pentagon commission him to weaponize a virus from offensive biowarfare ?


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[EvilCat Breath]

Trump was warning of this virus in his State of the Union address. San Fran Nan was too busy tearing it up to pay attention.

 

[georgephillip]

Trump was warning of this virus in his State of the Union address. San Fran Nan was too busy tearing it up to pay attention.

When did Don the Con first use the word "pandemic" in relation to Covid-19?

"While the U.S. and South Korea each reported their first case on the same day in mid-January, South Korean officials went to work immediately developing a coronavirus test and then rolling out mass testing nationwide, testing an average of 10,000 citizens per day.

"Meanwhile in the U.S., patients in hot zones like Seattle are still waiting for tests."

With this coronavirus calendar, even Donald Trump can't gaslight the problem away

 

[berg80]

Trump was warning of this virus in his State of the Union address.

You mean someone put a few lines in the address about COVID-19 but he ignored them anyway? Imagine my surprise.

 

[EvilCat Breath]

Trump was warning of this virus in his State of the Union address.

You mean someone put a few lines in the address about COVID-19 but he ignored them anyway? Imagine my surprise.

Ohh so you didn't pay attention to the state of union speech. Typical for an enemy democrat.

 

[Crixus]

White House Staffer: Mr. President, HHS has just completed a study, code-named "Crimson Contagion," on the country's preparedness regarding a potential viral outbreak. It highlights "just how underfunded, underprepared and uncoordinated the federal government would be for a life-or-death battle with a virus for which no treatment existed."

Trump: Go on.

WH Staffer: Sir, among other things, like bureaucratic snags, the study found the country does "not have the means to quickly manufacture more essential medical equipment, supplies or medicines, including antiviral medications, needles, syringes, N95 respirators and ventilators."

Trump: I see.

WH Staffer: The study makes some dire predictions, sir. It lays out scenarios in which millions of people could potentially be infected. What would you like to do about it, sir?

Trump: We should see about replacing the people I fired from the NSC who were put in place by the Obama admin to help coordinate the nation's response. Also, plans need to be made for a way to increase our capacity to manufacture protective clothing, masks, and to make sure we have enough accurate test kits that can be made available quickly. Let's get moving on that and report back to me in two weeks on what progress has been made.
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The more realistic conversation.

WH Official: Mr. President, your golf clubs are packed, sir. Will you be playing 18 or 36 holes?

Trump: Good, good. 36. I'm supposed to be meeting with staff about some stupid report but I just don't have time. I hear the weather is going to be great in Florida this weekend.
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Before Virus Outbreak, a Cascade of Warnings Went Unheeded

WASHINGTON — The outbreak of the respiratory virus began in China and was quickly spread around the world by air travelers, who ran high fevers. In the United States, it was first detected in Chicago, and 47 days later, the World Health Organization declared a pandemic. By then it was too late: 110 million Americans were expected to become ill, leading to 7.7 million hospitalized and 586,000 dead.

That scenario, code-named “Crimson Contagion” and imagining an influenza pandemic, was simulated by the Trump administration’s Department of Health and Human Services in a series of exercises that ran from last January to August.

The simulation’s sobering results — contained in a draft report dated October 2019 that has not previously been reported — drove home just how underfunded, underprepared and uncoordinated the federal government would be for a life-or-death battle with a virus for which no treatment existed.
Before Virus Outbreak, a Cascade of Warnings Went Unheeded
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Here's the Golfer-in-Chief, the guy responsible for keeping the country safe, prioritizing his time.

Th y said the same thing to token negro. When SARS was being announced as a national emergency, token negro golfed, his wife vacationed on the tax payer dime and his spawn went to lalapalooza. So what?

 

[two_iron]

Conversation that, hopefully, takes place everyday in the White House:

Trump: ok staff, what can we do today to help Americans get through this Luhan Flu pandemic...

Staffer: <giggle> sir, you said Luhan Flu...

Trump: yeah.... a little Pedo Joe humor...

Staffer: Umm... the fake news is reporting that you are calling the Chinese Virus a hoax and half are saying you were too slow on the China travel ban and the other half are saying you were too fast and racist. Sir is China a race?

Trump: Shut your mouth son. We NEVER worry about what the marxist fake news says. It's fake. Capiche?

Staffer: Yes sir.

Trump: Good, let's go to work!