A Conservative Take on the Disaster that is Trump

[TyroneSlothrop]

 

[Rustic]

Finally! A conservative Republican who is willing to speak of and take resposibility for the ongoing three ring circus in the White House

My Party Is in Denial About Donald Trump

Who could blame the people who felt abandoned and ignored by the major parties for reaching in despair for a candidate who offered oversimplified answers to infinitely complex questions and managed to entertain them in the process? With hindsight, it is clear that we all but ensured the rise of Donald Trump

Selected excerpts:

I will let the liberals answer for their own sins in this regard. (There are many.) But we conservatives mocked Barack Obama’s failure to deliver on his pledge to change the tone in Washington even as we worked to assist with that failure. It was we conservatives who, upon Obama’s election, stated that our No. 1 priority was not advancing a conservative policy agenda but making Obama a one-term president—the corollary to this binary thinking being that his failure would be our success and the fortunes of the citizenry would presumably be sorted out in the meantime.

It was we conservatives who were largely silent when the most egregious and sustained attacks on Obama’s legitimacy were leveled by marginal figures who would later be embraced and legitimized by far too many of us.

It was we conservatives who rightly and robustly asserted our constitutional prerogatives as a co-equal branch of government when a Democrat was in the White House but who, despite solemn vows to do the same in the event of a Trump presidency, have maintained an unnerving silence as instability has ensued

To carry on in the spring of 2017 as if what was happening was anything approaching normalcy required a determined suspension of critical faculties. And tremendous powers of denial.

Michael Gerson, a conservative columnist and former senior adviser to President George W. Bush, wrote, four months into the new presidency, The conservative mind, in some very visible cases, has become diseased,” and conservative institutions “with the blessings of a president … have abandoned the normal constraints of reason and compassion.”

Only a fool believes career politicians can run the country, go back to your mothers basement dip shit

 

[The Derp]

Why mention race when 98% of Blacks voted for because of his...race.

Did they vote for him because of his race, or because Conservatives put forth candidates they perceived as being hostile to their interests? Kerry and Gore each had 88%+ of the black vote too. There's little difference between 98% and 88% at that point.

 

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Finally! A conservative Republican who is willing to speak of and take resposibility for the ongoing three ring circus in the White House

My Party Is in Denial About Donald Trump

Who could blame the people who felt abandoned and ignored by the major parties for reaching in despair for a candidate who offered oversimplified answers to infinitely complex questions and managed to entertain them in the process? With hindsight, it is clear that we all but ensured the rise of Donald Trump

Selected excerpts:

I will let the liberals answer for their own sins in this regard. (There are many.) But we conservatives mocked Barack Obama’s failure to deliver on his pledge to change the tone in Washington even as we worked to assist with that failure. It was we conservatives who, upon Obama’s election, stated that our No. 1 priority was not advancing a conservative policy agenda but making Obama a one-term president—the corollary to this binary thinking being that his failure would be our success and the fortunes of the citizenry would presumably be sorted out in the meantime.

It was we conservatives who were largely silent when the most egregious and sustained attacks on Obama’s legitimacy were leveled by marginal figures who would later be embraced and legitimized by far too many of us.

It was we conservatives who rightly and robustly asserted our constitutional prerogatives as a co-equal branch of government when a Democrat was in the White House but who, despite solemn vows to do the same in the event of a Trump presidency, have maintained an unnerving silence as instability has ensued

To carry on in the spring of 2017 as if what was happening was anything approaching normalcy required a determined suspension of critical faculties. And tremendous powers of denial.

Michael Gerson, a conservative columnist and former senior adviser to President George W. Bush, wrote, four months into the new presidency, The conservative mind, in some very visible cases, has become diseased,” and conservative institutions “with the blessings of a president … have abandoned the normal constraints of reason and compassion.”

Jeff Flake knows that john mccain, the favorite republican member of the democrat party is dying from brain cancer, so flake wants to take his spot as the favorite republican member of the democrat party........he is just another republican who basks in the warm glow of left wing media love, because he attacks republicans.....

Here is a more accurate article on jeff flake...

Jeff Flake is Filling in For John McCain as a Liberal Media Darling

John McCain has relished his "Maverick" label ever since the leftmedia warmed up to him after his failed 2000 presidential run. He began flirting with the Democratsafter that, and the love affair was on. The MSM adores nothing more than a Republican politician who will gleefully attack other Republicans.

McCain is at home in Arizona to begin cancer treatment after once again making the Democrats and their mouthpieces in the MSM swoon for him by delivering his biggest back-stab to his own party yet. The media types who hate Trump and Republicans may have been forlorn about missing their favorite useful idiot, but they've almost been immediately rescued by the junior senator from Arizona, Jeff Flake.

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What's galling to many of my conservative friends in my native Arizona is that Flake has been a little too cozy with McCain since he got to Washington. They were hoping for the un-Maverick, and they've basically gotten Maverick Lite. My closest friends there who voted for him are all disappointed.

What's even more galling to those of us who grew up in Barry Goldwater's Arizona is Flake's none-too-subtle implication that he is somehow picking up Goldwater's mantle of conservatism. He's got an ego that's really out of sync with his accomplishments.

I never heard of the guy before, but after reading the attached link, it seems to me that he was talking about principles and living by simple truths of right and wrong. The people in the Senate and a lot in the House are not stupid. They are pretty intelligent people. They are ignoring what a mess the government has become with Trump's chaos and lack of focus. What has Trump created?
- a Commission to "investigate" voter fraud (to prove he won the popular vote, too)
- a Commission in the EPA to question climate science
- a Commission to look into discrimination against whites re: university admission policies.

In the past few weeks he has given cops the wink and nod to "not be so nice" to people in their custody and is threatening to take 7 billion from insurance companies that will end up sending people's insurance premiums sky high.
How anyone can continue to support this man. Only at extremists can, at this point.

You forgot appointing an Constitutional justice to the Supreme Court.

You forgot the stock market breaking 22,000.

You forgot illegal immigration at an all time low.

You forgot the reduction of wasteful and abusive federal regulations.

You forgot all the good things Trump has actually done......

The Supreme court deal Was unfair, the stock market give him 50% credit, but even that's scary, to high to fast . I don't see where illegal immigration figures have changed much in 6 months. and the reductions of waste regulations are mostly in areas that should not be cut like allowing harmful pollution into streams .

 

[sartre play]

Finally! A conservative Republican who is willing to speak of and take resposibility for the ongoing three ring circus in the White House

My Party Is in Denial About Donald Trump

Who could blame the people who felt abandoned and ignored by the major parties for reaching in despair for a candidate who offered oversimplified answers to infinitely complex questions and managed to entertain them in the process? With hindsight, it is clear that we all but ensured the rise of Donald Trump

Selected excerpts:

I will let the liberals answer for their own sins in this regard. (There are many.) But we conservatives mocked Barack Obama’s failure to deliver on his pledge to change the tone in Washington even as we worked to assist with that failure. It was we conservatives who, upon Obama’s election, stated that our No. 1 priority was not advancing a conservative policy agenda but making Obama a one-term president—the corollary to this binary thinking being that his failure would be our success and the fortunes of the citizenry would presumably be sorted out in the meantime.

It was we conservatives who were largely silent when the most egregious and sustained attacks on Obama’s legitimacy were leveled by marginal figures who would later be embraced and legitimized by far too many of us.

It was we conservatives who rightly and robustly asserted our constitutional prerogatives as a co-equal branch of government when a Democrat was in the White House but who, despite solemn vows to do the same in the event of a Trump presidency, have maintained an unnerving silence as instability has ensued

To carry on in the spring of 2017 as if what was happening was anything approaching normalcy required a determined suspension of critical faculties. And tremendous powers of denial.

Michael Gerson, a conservative columnist and former senior adviser to President George W. Bush, wrote, four months into the new presidency, The conservative mind, in some very visible cases, has become diseased,” and conservative institutions “with the blessings of a president … have abandoned the normal constraints of reason and compassion.”

Jeff Flake knows that john mccain, the favorite republican member of the democrat party is dying from brain cancer, so flake wants to take his spot as the favorite republican member of the democrat party........he is just another republican who basks in the warm glow of left wing media love, because he attacks republicans.....

Here is a more accurate article on jeff flake...

Jeff Flake is Filling in For John McCain as a Liberal Media Darling

John McCain has relished his "Maverick" label ever since the leftmedia warmed up to him after his failed 2000 presidential run. He began flirting with the Democratsafter that, and the love affair was on. The MSM adores nothing more than a Republican politician who will gleefully attack other Republicans.

McCain is at home in Arizona to begin cancer treatment after once again making the Democrats and their mouthpieces in the MSM swoon for him by delivering his biggest back-stab to his own party yet. The media types who hate Trump and Republicans may have been forlorn about missing their favorite useful idiot, but they've almost been immediately rescued by the junior senator from Arizona, Jeff Flake.

--------

What's galling to many of my conservative friends in my native Arizona is that Flake has been a little too cozy with McCain since he got to Washington. They were hoping for the un-Maverick, and they've basically gotten Maverick Lite. My closest friends there who voted for him are all disappointed.

What's even more galling to those of us who grew up in Barry Goldwater's Arizona is Flake's none-too-subtle implication that he is somehow picking up Goldwater's mantle of conservatism. He's got an ego that's really out of sync with his accomplishments.

I never heard of the guy before, but after reading the attached link, it seems to me that he was talking about principles and living by simple truths of right and wrong. The people in the Senate and a lot in the House are not stupid. They are pretty intelligent people. They are ignoring what a mess the government has become with Trump's chaos and lack of focus. What has Trump created?
- a Commission to "investigate" voter fraud (to prove he won the popular vote, too)
- a Commission in the EPA to question climate science
- a Commission to look into discrimination against whites re: university admission policies.

In the past few weeks he has given cops the wink and nod to "not be so nice" to people in their custody and is threatening to take 7 billion from insurance companies that will end up sending people's insurance premiums sky high.
How anyone can continue to support this man. Only at extremists can, at this point.

You forgot appointing an Constitutional justice to the Supreme Court.

You forgot the stock market breaking 22,000.

You forgot illegal immigration at an all time low.

You forgot the reduction of wasteful and abusive federal regulations.

You forgot all the good things Trump has actually done......

May I add these, from today:
Trump for new immigration policy!!!!

"...legislation would move the United States to a "merit-based" immigration system and away from the current model, which is largely based on family ties.

“Instead of today's low-skilled system — which is a terrible system where anyone comes in, people who have never worked, people that are criminals, anyone comes in — we want a merit-based system,” he said. “One that protects our workers, protects our taxpayers, and one that protects our economy.”
Trump, GOP senators unveil measure to cut legal immigration


"Trump endorses new immigration bill to cut green-card limits, favor English speakers"
Donald Trump endorses new immigration bill to cut green card limits, favor English speakers


"NYT: Trump administration prepares to investigate 'race-based discrimination'
Washington (CNN)The Trump administration is readying resources in the Justice Department's civil rights division for the purpose of investigating and litigating "race-based discrimination" in US higher education, potentially with the aim of protecting white applicants from discrimination through affirmative action, The New York Times reported Tuesday."
NYT: Trump administration prepares to investigate 'race-based discrimination' - CNNPolitics.com



Can I get an 'amen'!!!!!

IF you really look at it not so smart of

Trump Says U.S. Is Losing Afghan War
August 2, 2017
President Trump “has become increasingly frustrated with his advisers tasked with crafting a new U.S. strategy in Afghanistan and recently suggested firing the war’s top military commander during a tense meeting at the White House,” NBC News reports.

Said Trump: “We aren’t winning. We are losing.”

Trump also “inquired about the United States getting a piece of Afghan’s mineral wealth.” He then “compared the policy review process to the renovation of a famed New York restaurant in the 1980s.”

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That great military leader Donald Trump who never spent a day in the military has no clue what is going on in Afghanistan. There is solid evidence that Russia is arming the Taliban but I am sure that is okay with Trump supporters.

ISIS was a creation of the Barrypuppet and the Hildebeast...an offshoot of the CIA created al qaeda. How is Russia arming the Taliban, exactly? The only reason that troops are still there is to insure the opium crop comes in and to keep an eye on the trillion dollars worth of lithium Afghanistan has. BTW, how many days did the Barrypuppet serve in the military exactly? The Hildebeast????

Trump Says U.S. Is Losing Afghan War
August 2, 2017
President Trump “has become increasingly frustrated with his advisers tasked with crafting a new U.S. strategy in Afghanistan and recently suggested firing the war’s top military commander during a tense meeting at the White House,” NBC News reports.

Said Trump: “We aren’t winning. We are losing.”

Trump also “inquired about the United States getting a piece of Afghan’s mineral wealth.” He then “compared the policy review process to the renovation of a famed New York restaurant in the 1980s.”

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That great military leader Donald Trump who never spent a day in the military has no clue what is going on in Afghanistan. There is solid evidence that Russia is arming the Taliban but I am sure that is okay with Trump supporters.

ISIS was a creation of the Barrypuppet and the Hildebeast...an offshoot of the CIA created al qaeda. How is Russia arming the Taliban, exactly? The only reason that troops are still there is to insure the opium crop comes in and to keep an eye on the trillion dollars worth of lithium Afghanistan has. BTW, how many days did the Barrypuppet serve in the military exactly? The Hildebeast????

 

[LaDexter]

A conservative Republican

How many times has this "conservative" voted to cut spending????

A: ZERO

 

[sartre play]

I don't believe that you have a college education....how in the hell can you not know that gold has many, many uses?

Largely, it's ornamental.

AS I have stated, you could steal every dime from those making 200K and above and it wouldn't make a dent in what is the national debt

Never said it did, never said it would. Never even said that's the goal. I'm curious why you are so consumed with debt, and why all the debt peacocks said nothing 16 years ago when Bush took a surplus that could have paid off the debt by 2010, and instead turned it into record deficits (4 of them during Bush) that doubled it by 2009?

So long as our GDP grows faster than our debt, there's no problem. Because government never "dies", and therefore never has to pay debt off. We've carried a debt load in this country for about 190 years. Most First World governments operate in debt.

nd it certainly wouldn't benefit me and I wouldn't do it even if it was within my power to do so. I don't NEED others to subsidize my existence like those of your ilk do.....capiche'?

Wait - higher taxes on the wealthy wouldn't benefit you? Of course they would. Because the government would then collect more revenue which means it can spend more on things like education and health care, which results in you spending less on those things and spending more in the consumer economy, which is 70% of the economy as a whole and where most of the jobs are created.

Gold is largely "ornamental"????? Dude, you haven't the faintest clue

There never was a "surplus". When Clinton left office the debt was at 5.5 trillion dollars but Clinton and the repub controlled house and senate of that era added 1.36 trillion of that but far from being in "surplus" territory. Bush the lesser doubled it and the Barrypuppet then doubled it. "Da gubermint" which is owned by the IMF collects the taxes and any increase would go to them and the fact that you believe that they would pass on the raping and pillaging of others to benefit you is ludicrous because you have no clue as to how the system actually works. I do. Why do most countries operate under a debt load? Because they have a central bank that creates money out of thin air and then charges interest for it. Every FRN is a debt note and a "Promise to pay".

Please explain all the way gold is used, I could only think of two.

 

[Dale Smith]

I don't believe that you have a college education....how in the hell can you not know that gold has many, many uses?

Largely, it's ornamental.

AS I have stated, you could steal every dime from those making 200K and above and it wouldn't make a dent in what is the national debt

Never said it did, never said it would. Never even said that's the goal. I'm curious why you are so consumed with debt, and why all the debt peacocks said nothing 16 years ago when Bush took a surplus that could have paid off the debt by 2010, and instead turned it into record deficits (4 of them during Bush) that doubled it by 2009?

So long as our GDP grows faster than our debt, there's no problem. Because government never "dies", and therefore never has to pay debt off. We've carried a debt load in this country for about 190 years. Most First World governments operate in debt.

nd it certainly wouldn't benefit me and I wouldn't do it even if it was within my power to do so. I don't NEED others to subsidize my existence like those of your ilk do.....capiche'?

Wait - higher taxes on the wealthy wouldn't benefit you? Of course they would. Because the government would then collect more revenue which means it can spend more on things like education and health care, which results in you spending less on those things and spending more in the consumer economy, which is 70% of the economy as a whole and where most of the jobs are created.

Gold is largely "ornamental"????? Dude, you haven't the faintest clue

There never was a "surplus". When Clinton left office the debt was at 5.5 trillion dollars but Clinton and the repub controlled house and senate of that era added 1.36 trillion of that but far from being in "surplus" territory. Bush the lesser doubled it and the Barrypuppet then doubled it. "Da gubermint" which is owned by the IMF collects the taxes and any increase would go to them and the fact that you believe that they would pass on the raping and pillaging of others to benefit you is ludicrous because you have no clue as to how the system actually works. I do. Why do most countries operate under a debt load? Because they have a central bank that creates money out of thin air and then charges interest for it. Every FRN is a debt note and a "Promise to pay".

Please explain all the way gold is used, I could only think of two.

Uses of Gold in Industry, Medicine, Computers, Electronics, Jewelry

 

[sartre play]

I don't believe that you have a college education....how in the hell can you not know that gold has many, many uses?

Largely, it's ornamental.

AS I have stated, you could steal every dime from those making 200K and above and it wouldn't make a dent in what is the national debt

Never said it did, never said it would. Never even said that's the goal. I'm curious why you are so consumed with debt, and why all the debt peacocks said nothing 16 years ago when Bush took a surplus that could have paid off the debt by 2010, and instead turned it into record deficits (4 of them during Bush) that doubled it by 2009?

So long as our GDP grows faster than our debt, there's no problem. Because government never "dies", and therefore never has to pay debt off. We've carried a debt load in this country for about 190 years. Most First World governments operate in debt.

nd it certainly wouldn't benefit me and I wouldn't do it even if it was within my power to do so. I don't NEED others to subsidize my existence like those of your ilk do.....capiche'?

Wait - higher taxes on the wealthy wouldn't benefit you? Of course they would. Because the government would then collect more revenue which means it can spend more on things like education and health care, which results in you spending less on those things and spending more in the consumer economy, which is 70% of the economy as a whole and where most of the jobs are created.

Gold is largely "ornamental"????? Dude, you haven't the faintest clue

There never was a "surplus". When Clinton left office the debt was at 5.5 trillion dollars but Clinton and the repub controlled house and senate of that era added 1.36 trillion of that but far from being in "surplus" territory. Bush the lesser doubled it and the Barrypuppet then doubled it. "Da gubermint" which is owned by the IMF collects the taxes and any increase would go to them and the fact that you believe that they would pass on the raping and pillaging of others to benefit you is ludicrous because you have no clue as to how the system actually works. I do. Why do most countries operate under a debt load? Because they have a central bank that creates money out of thin air and then charges interest for it. Every FRN is a debt note and a "Promise to pay".

Please explain all the way gold is used, I could only think of two.

Uses of Gold in Industry, Medicine, Computers, Electronics, Jewelry

Thanks.

 

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Trump stays quiet after his Right wing Militias Bomb a Minnesota Mosque

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