A Columbia University professor tweeted that the American flag is a “symbol of genocide.”

[Quasar44]

Only professors that I consider real are the ones in hard sciences, computers and engineering

The rest are Bolshevik whack jobs

 

[Quasar44]

Guy looks like a pedophile

 

[JGalt]

Come back and tell me that again when Trump wins the election. If this country truly was a "democracy", the popular vote would decide the election, instead of the electoral vote.

Evidently someone was stoned out of their gourd during Civics 101. Drugs are bad, mmmkay?

A democracy means that individuals have a vote on their representation. It doesn't necessarily mean that the person who wins the total vote wins.

Absolutely wrong, and it has nothing to do with "individuals." The founding fathers realized in advance that higher-population cities should not have more power than sparsely-populated areas. The electoral college is a fundamental component of American federalism. It promotes political equity and preserves constitutional the role of the states in presidential elections. No one or two states which have the highest population should be allowed to choose a President. The founding fathers having seen how other countries chose their leaders, feared that a headstrong “democratic mob” could steer the country astray. Or worse than that, a populist president appealing directly to the people could command dangerous amounts of power.

So that's why we choose out presidents by way of the electoral vote, instead of the popular or "democratic" vote.

Consider yourself edumacated. You're very welcome.

 

[JGalt]

Guy looks like a pedophile

I sorta wish that I could arrange it that someone would find kiddie porn on his cell phone. Either that, or just smash the fucker in the face with my fist and kick him in the balls.

Either one would be fine with me.

 

[Quasar44]

Guy looks like a pedophile

I sorta wish that I could arrange it that someone would find kiddie porn on his cell phone. Either that, or just smash the fucker in the face with my fist and kick him in the balls.

Either one would be fine with me.

If you kick in balls , then use shin bone

 

[Mikeoxenormous]

anyone who burns our flag should be jailed for 10 years. if you say crazy shit like this, you should do 10 days

Prof: American flag is a ‘symbol of genocide’

The flag!?

www.campusreform.org

You do know Basq, that it was the Spanish who first showed up on the shores of America and brought diseases that ran ruin though the natives. But it was Democrap Andrew Jackson who declared war on them, with this Manifest Destiny that brought the trail of tears...Why do Democraps always fuck minority people....

 

[NoNukes]

anyone who burns our flag should be jailed for 10 years. if you say crazy shit like this, you should do 10 days

Prof: American flag is a ‘symbol of genocide’

The flag!?

www.campusreform.org

So much for freedom of speech? You guys are not too fond of democracy.

hashahhahahahahah
you fkd up!!!!!!!!
WE have the freedom to give our opinion of the jackass

But only you. That is how the right works. You only care about yourselves, not the country, not others.

 

[Uncensored2008]

I'll be stepping in some shit here, but is he wrong ?
He may not be 100% right but he's not 100% wrong either.

“The American Flag is a symbol of genocide,” said Zenkus. “Unless centuries of slavery and the vanquishing of Native American nations doesn't figure into your equation.”
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Yes, those dastardly Americans killed each and every Indian, all that remains are bones.

Oh wait, that's what the Indians did to the Aboriginal people who were here before them. There are still a lot of American Indians - the Australoid first people were long gone before the first European ever stepped foot on the continent. The invading Asians wiped them out in an actual genocide.

 

[Toro]

The entire history of the world is one group of people trying to kill another group of people.

That prof is a retard.

......it is my understanding, the US policy was not to kill ALL NAs/commit genocide, but to get them to go to the reservations --generally speaking...you always have your fanatics in any group, though
....in some of the massacres of NAs, there were white people that were shocked/alarmed/etc--they wanted convictions for the perpetrators

The point of what I was saying was that if you look at the map of the world, that's the result of one people killing other people, or screwing them at best. The United States is no different.

The Far Left likes to strike this narrative that the evil white people came to America and killed a lot of the Natives, which isn't necessarily untrue. What they don't say is that prior to white people coming to America, Natives were also killing Natives.

You are correct. White people didn't necessarily want to kill the Natives. They just wanted their land. But that's the story of humanity since the dawn of time.

 

[Uncensored2008]

A democracy means that individuals have a vote on their representation. It doesn't necessarily mean that the person who wins the total vote wins.

Wrong.

A democracy means the people decide laws and issues through a direct vote. The use of proxies or representatives is the definition of a Republic.

 

[Toro]

Absolutely wrong, and it has nothing to do with "individuals." The founding fathers realized in advance that higher-population cities should not have more power than sparsely-populated areas. The electoral college is a fundamental component of American federalism. It promotes political equity and preserves constitutional the role of the states in presidential elections. No one or two states which have the highest population should be allowed to choose a President. The founding fathers having seen how other countries chose their leaders, feared that a headstrong “democratic mob” could steer the country astray. Or worse than that, a populist president appealing directly to the people could command dangerous amounts of power.

So that's why we choose out presidents by way of the electoral vote, instead of the popular or "democratic" vote.

Consider yourself edumacated. You're very welcome.

I'm not denying any of that. But the mechanism that we choose our representatives is through democratic means. We vote to choose our representation. How the vote is allocated is a different issue. A country can be a democracy without the governing party necessarily being won by a majority vote.

However, that's what happens on so many levels of American governance. You are only focusing at the Presidential level. We vote on many, many different things in this country. FFS, I can vote for Soil and Conservation Officer! There are so many things we vote on in this country - judges, mayors, sheriffs, county commissioners, etc. Simply because we don't have a direct democracy to elect the President doesn't mean we aren't a democracy.

Finally, the country has evolved since the 18th century. The Founding Fathers thought that only white males who owned land should have the right to vote. Clearly, the country has shifted from that.

 

[Toro]

A democracy means that individuals have a vote on their representation. It doesn't necessarily mean that the person who wins the total vote wins.

Wrong.

A democracy means the people decide laws and issues through a direct vote. The use of proxies or representatives is the definition of a Republic.

I just googled "what is a democracy?" and this came up

a system of government by the whole population or all the eligible members of a state, typically through elected representatives.​

So yes, representative government is a democracy.

That's what I learned in PoliSci 101

 

[Toro]

BTW, I understand the Electoral College. A lot of liberals and Democrats complained about the EC after the last election. But those were the rules of the game prior to the election. You can't change the rules after the game is played because you don't like the result.

But here again, the EC could be abolished by a constitutional amendment. That would come if enough states and Congress voted to amend it and President signed it. And those governors and state legislatures as well as Congress are elected.

 

[Uncensored2008]

A democracy means that individuals have a vote on their representation. It doesn't necessarily mean that the person who wins the total vote wins.

Wrong.

A democracy means the people decide laws and issues through a direct vote. The use of proxies or representatives is the definition of a Republic.

I just googled "what is a democracy?" and this came up

a system of government by the whole population or all the eligible members of a state, typically through elected representatives.​

So yes, representative government is a democracy.

That's what I learned in PoliSci 101

• Republics and democracies both provide a political system in which citizens are represented by elected officials who are sworn to protect their interests.
• In a pure democracy, laws are made directly by the voting majority leaving the rights of the minority largely unprotected.
• In a republic, laws are made by representatives chosen the people and must comply with a constitution that specifically protects the rights of the minority from the will of the majority.

 

[BlackSand]

Come back and tell me that again when Trump wins the election. If this country truly was a "democracy", the popular vote would decide the election, instead of the electoral vote.

Evidently someone was stoned out of their gourd during Civics 101. Drugs are bad, mmmkay?

A democracy means that individuals have a vote on their representation. It doesn't necessarily mean that the person who wins the total vote wins.

Absolutely wrong, and it has nothing to do with "individuals." The founding fathers realized in advance that higher-population cities should not have more power than sparsely-populated areas. The electoral college is a fundamental component of American federalism. It promotes political equity and preserves constitutional the role of the states in presidential elections. No one or two states which have the highest population should be allowed to choose a President. The founding fathers having seen how other countries chose their leaders, feared that a headstrong “democratic mob” could steer the country astray. Or worse than that, a populist president appealing directly to the people could command dangerous amounts of power.

So that's why we choose out presidents by way of the electoral vote, instead of the popular or "democratic" vote.

Consider yourself edumacated. You're very welcome.

You are arguing about an insignificant (in reference to definition) difference in application.

The three true forms of Government are ... Anarchy, Oligarchy or Republic.
Democracy, Theocracy, Dictatorship, Monarchy, and a plethora of other choices, will still fall under one of those three forms of government.

Point:
Saying a Democracy is not a Republic, or vice versa, has no bearing on whether or not either could be considered, at least in part, as the other.
The distinctions are made when the government creates the systems and laws that define their particular approach to the process.

If you want to be technical ... We have a Democratically Elected Representative Republic.

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[harmonica]

The entire history of the world is one group of people trying to kill another group of people.

That prof is a retard.

......it is my understanding, the US policy was not to kill ALL NAs/commit genocide, but to get them to go to the reservations --generally speaking...you always have your fanatics in any group, though
....in some of the massacres of NAs, there were white people that were shocked/alarmed/etc--they wanted convictions for the perpetrators

The point of what I was saying was that if you look at the map of the world, that's the result of one people killing other people, or screwing them at best. The United States is no different.

The Far Left likes to strike this narrative that the evil white people came to America and killed a lot of the Natives, which isn't necessarily untrue. What they don't say is that prior to white people coming to America, Natives were also killing Natives.

You are correct. White people didn't necessarily want to kill the Natives. They just wanted their land. But that's the story of humanity since the dawn of time.

did you not read my post #5?

 

[DGS49]

Do words mean anything?

This clown is not a "Prof." He is a part-time lecturer.

Why is no one at Princeton talking about a public debate on the history of the U.S. It might be interesting.

 

[cnm]

No. Not too fond of democracy.

Nor of dictionaries, nor the meaning of words it would seem.

democracy​

a: government by the people especially : rule of the majority​

b : a government in which the supreme power is vested in the people and exercised by them directly or indirectly through a system of representation usually involving periodically held free elections​

Do you not elect representatives in your fascist state?

 

[cnm]

A democracy means the people decide laws and issues through a direct vote. The use of proxies or representatives is the definition of a Republic.

Deplorables do like to make up their own meanings for words. It's the only way their ludicrous assertions can make sense.

 

[Correll]

I'll be stepping in some shit here, but is he wrong ?
He may not be 100% right but he's not 100% wrong either.

“The American Flag is a symbol of genocide,” said Zenkus. “Unless centuries of slavery and the vanquishing of Native American nations doesn't figure into your equation.”
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Slavery is not genocide and most indians died from disease, so...