A Child Can't Call 2 Women or 2 Men "Mom & Dad"

Structurally, for the sake of kids, do states have the right to define marriage for themselves?

  • No, this is best left up to 9 Justices in the US Supreme Court.

    Votes: 10 47.6%
  • Yes, this is best left up to the discreet communities of states.

    Votes: 11 52.4%

  • Total voters
    21
Show me an example where Christ said to tolerate the sins of my neighbor. You seem to claim He did.

You hate yourself. It's obvious.

I've claimed he told you to love your neighbor. And that he gave you no caveats around that. No excuses. But told you to love your neighbor as yourself. To love one another as he loved you.

And your response is to tell Christ to go **** himself. To ignore Christ and imagine excuses for HATING your neighbor, for ignoring one of the two great commandments.

Um, no. I'm not doing that. I'm listening to Christ on this one. Not to a bigot who tells me to do exactly opposite of what Christ commanded. And I'm certainly not taking 'comfort' or joy in anyone's damnation.

That's not Christianity. That's anti-Christianity you're spewing.

I've claimed Christ said to go and sin no more without caveats but you ignore it.

Christ didn't say 'love one another, as I have loved you....except the sinners'. He told us to love our neighbor. Period. There are no caveats. There are no loopholes.

Christ tells me to love my neighbor. You take comfort in the suffering and damnation of my neighbor. Why would I ignore Christ and instead believe you.....especially when what your'e telling me is EXPLICITLY contradicted by Christ himself?

There is no reason. I refuse to hate anyone because you do.

My response is to tell you who twist God's word to go **** yourself.

Twisting? I'm QUOTING. Verbatim. And when I ask you to show me ANY caveats or exceptions to the great commandment to love your neighbor....

.......you've got jack shit.

There are none. And yet you imagine a special exemption for YOUR bigotry, for YOUR hatred, a special set of rules that excuse you from following the commandment. Um, no. I'm not doing that.

How then is it 'twisting God's word' to recognize that when Christ commanded that we love our neighbor, he commanded that we love our neighbor? And why would any Christian take 'comfort' in anyone's damnation? What sick **** takes comfort in someone else's suffering?

Not a Christian.
Christ said to not sin. You seem to think that sinning is OK. I'm quoting Christ's words verbatim.

And how does Christ's commandment to 'go and sin no more' exempt you from his greatest commandment: to love your neighbor?

It doesn't. You're trying to find loopholes. Excuses. And there are none. I will not hate my neighbor. Not because he's gay. Not because he sins. Not because you take comfort in my neighbor's suffering and damnation.

I will not ignore Christ and instead follow someone insisting I ignore Christ and follow him.
Because I, like Christ, can distinguish between the person and the action. There is no loophole. You think telling someone what they're doing is wrong is hating the person. It's hating the sin.

If you tolerate your neighbor's sin, you hate God and the teaching of Christ. For that, God made it clear that you will suffer despite his desire you don't. It's your choice.
 
Women in pants. Nothing. I don't live by OT law.

Depends on why he remarried.

That they are living in sin. Tell my brother that regularly.

Which Sabbath? Jews start Friday at 6PM, 7th Day Adventist say it's Saturday. Other say it's Sunday. Define work?

Depends on the word. Other than GD, which God said is wrong, the Bible doesn't mention specifics words as wrong. That's human doing.

Crawl their ass if they dishonor their parents.

That doesn't mean I don't care about the people just don't tolerate their sin. You seem to think saying someone doing something is wrong because I believe it's wrong means hate of the person.


Like I said above, a 'Pick and Choose' Christian :laugh:

Quit proving me right! It's making me bored. Give me a challenge, Bigot.

You've failed at the challenge you've been given. You claim telling someone what they are doing is a sin means hating the person. Christ knew the difference, I know the difference, but your retarded dumbass can't seem to get it. You must be the by product of two monkey butt ******* to be that dumb.

That would be the taking comfort that they'll be going to hell part. Taking comfort in someone else's suffering and damnation is not act of love. Its an act of hate.

It is the opposite of what Christ teaches us to do. And I will not follow you in ignoring Christ and hating your neighbor.
Apparently you missed the part of comfort being mine by not having to be around sinners like you in heaven.
 
You can't fathom my high level of intelligence. If you even finished high school, the best you could do is a 2 year of State college. They let anyone in.

So first 'n*gger' and now clumsy attempts at condescension....all to change the topic. I've seen this show before. I'm happy where we are.

Christ commands me to love my neighbor.

Yes.

You insist I hate my neighbor and take comfort in his eternal damnation and suffering.

No.

I insist, like Christ did, that you don't tolerate the SINS of your neighbor. Still being a dumbass unable to distinguish the person from the action. Christ could, I can, but you retarded ass can't. Like -S-, you must be the byproduct of two monkeys butt *******.

You insisted that you'll take comfort that gays aren't going to heaven. What sick **** takes comfort in anyone else's damnation and suffering?

Not a Christian. Not someone who loves his neighbor as himself. But someone who hates his neighbor.
 
I've claimed he told you to love your neighbor. And that he gave you no caveats around that. No excuses. But told you to love your neighbor as yourself. To love one another as he loved you.

And your response is to tell Christ to go **** himself. To ignore Christ and imagine excuses for HATING your neighbor, for ignoring one of the two great commandments.

Um, no. I'm not doing that. I'm listening to Christ on this one. Not to a bigot who tells me to do exactly opposite of what Christ commanded. And I'm certainly not taking 'comfort' or joy in anyone's damnation.

That's not Christianity. That's anti-Christianity you're spewing.

I've claimed Christ said to go and sin no more without caveats but you ignore it.

Christ didn't say 'love one another, as I have loved you....except the sinners'. He told us to love our neighbor. Period. There are no caveats. There are no loopholes.

Christ tells me to love my neighbor. You take comfort in the suffering and damnation of my neighbor. Why would I ignore Christ and instead believe you.....especially when what your'e telling me is EXPLICITLY contradicted by Christ himself?

There is no reason. I refuse to hate anyone because you do.

My response is to tell you who twist God's word to go **** yourself.

Twisting? I'm QUOTING. Verbatim. And when I ask you to show me ANY caveats or exceptions to the great commandment to love your neighbor....

.......you've got jack shit.

There are none. And yet you imagine a special exemption for YOUR bigotry, for YOUR hatred, a special set of rules that excuse you from following the commandment. Um, no. I'm not doing that.

How then is it 'twisting God's word' to recognize that when Christ commanded that we love our neighbor, he commanded that we love our neighbor? And why would any Christian take 'comfort' in anyone's damnation? What sick **** takes comfort in someone else's suffering?

Not a Christian.
Christ said to not sin. You seem to think that sinning is OK. I'm quoting Christ's words verbatim.

And how does Christ's commandment to 'go and sin no more' exempt you from his greatest commandment: to love your neighbor?

It doesn't. You're trying to find loopholes. Excuses. And there are none. I will not hate my neighbor. Not because he's gay. Not because he sins. Not because you take comfort in my neighbor's suffering and damnation.

I will not ignore Christ and instead follow someone insisting I ignore Christ and follow him.
Because I, like Christ, can distinguish between the person and the action. There is no loophole. You think telling someone what they're doing is wrong is hating the person. It's hating the sin.
So you're demonstrating your love for your neighbor by calling them faggots and n*ggers? In taking comfort in their suffering and damnation?

That fruit is rotten to the core.

I'm not going to hate my neighbor. I'm not going to ignore Christ on one of the two of his greatest commandments. And I'm not going to take comfort that ANYONE doesn't make it into heaven. Instead, I'm going to mourn them.

As any real Christian would do.
 
You can't fathom my high level of intelligence. If you even finished high school, the best you could do is a 2 year of State college. They let anyone in.

So first 'n*gger' and now clumsy attempts at condescension....all to change the topic. I've seen this show before. I'm happy where we are.

Christ commands me to love my neighbor.

Yes.

You insist I hate my neighbor and take comfort in his eternal damnation and suffering.

No.

I insist, like Christ did, that you don't tolerate the SINS of your neighbor. Still being a dumbass unable to distinguish the person from the action. Christ could, I can, but you retarded ass can't. Like -S-, you must be the byproduct of two monkeys butt *******.

You insisted that you'll take comfort that gays aren't going to heaven. What sick **** takes comfort in anyone else's damnation and suffering?

Not a Christian. Not someone who loves his neighbor as himself. But someone who hates his neighbor.

I hate my neighbors actions. Big difference you two digit IQ can't grasp. Move along Forrest.
 
I've claimed Christ said to go and sin no more without caveats but you ignore it.

Christ didn't say 'love one another, as I have loved you....except the sinners'. He told us to love our neighbor. Period. There are no caveats. There are no loopholes.

Christ tells me to love my neighbor. You take comfort in the suffering and damnation of my neighbor. Why would I ignore Christ and instead believe you.....especially when what your'e telling me is EXPLICITLY contradicted by Christ himself?

There is no reason. I refuse to hate anyone because you do.

My response is to tell you who twist God's word to go **** yourself.

Twisting? I'm QUOTING. Verbatim. And when I ask you to show me ANY caveats or exceptions to the great commandment to love your neighbor....

.......you've got jack shit.

There are none. And yet you imagine a special exemption for YOUR bigotry, for YOUR hatred, a special set of rules that excuse you from following the commandment. Um, no. I'm not doing that.

How then is it 'twisting God's word' to recognize that when Christ commanded that we love our neighbor, he commanded that we love our neighbor? And why would any Christian take 'comfort' in anyone's damnation? What sick **** takes comfort in someone else's suffering?

Not a Christian.
Christ said to not sin. You seem to think that sinning is OK. I'm quoting Christ's words verbatim.

And how does Christ's commandment to 'go and sin no more' exempt you from his greatest commandment: to love your neighbor?

It doesn't. You're trying to find loopholes. Excuses. And there are none. I will not hate my neighbor. Not because he's gay. Not because he sins. Not because you take comfort in my neighbor's suffering and damnation.

I will not ignore Christ and instead follow someone insisting I ignore Christ and follow him.
Because I, like Christ, can distinguish between the person and the action. There is no loophole. You think telling someone what they're doing is wrong is hating the person. It's hating the sin.
So you're demonstrating your love for your neighbor by calling them faggots and n*ggers? In taking comfort in their suffering and damnation?

That fruit is rotten to the core.

I'm not going to hate my neighbor. I'm not going to ignore Christ on one of the two of his greatest commandments. And I'm not going to take comfort that ANYONE doesn't make it into heaven. Instead, I'm going to mourn them.

As any real Christian would do.

What you'll do is ignore what Christ said about SIN and try to justify tolerating the ACTION by twisting his words.
 
You can't fathom my high level of intelligence. If you even finished high school, the best you could do is a 2 year of State college. They let anyone in.

So first 'n*gger' and now clumsy attempts at condescension....all to change the topic. I've seen this show before. I'm happy where we are.

Christ commands me to love my neighbor.

Yes.

You insist I hate my neighbor and take comfort in his eternal damnation and suffering.

No.

I insist, like Christ did, that you don't tolerate the SINS of your neighbor. Still being a dumbass unable to distinguish the person from the action. Christ could, I can, but you retarded ass can't. Like -S-, you must be the byproduct of two monkeys butt *******.

You insisted that you'll take comfort that gays aren't going to heaven. What sick **** takes comfort in anyone else's damnation and suffering?

Not a Christian. Not someone who loves his neighbor as himself. But someone who hates his neighbor.

I hate my neighbors actions. Big difference you two digit IQ can't grasp. Move along Forrest.

You've already shown us what fruit falls from the tree of what you actually believe. Loving your neighbor doesn't produce the fruit of calling him a '******' or a 'n*gger'. It doesn't produce the fruit taking comfort in their suffering and eternal damnation.

Hating your neighbor does.
 
Apparently you missed the part of comfort being mine by not having to be around sinners like you in heaven.


Great! But if that's how you feel, then you can't also 'hope they all make it there'. The views don't mesh.



Why are you so amazingly stupid? I wonder if that was God's punishment to you for your bigoted views..
 
Christ didn't say 'love one another, as I have loved you....except the sinners'. He told us to love our neighbor. Period. There are no caveats. There are no loopholes.

Christ tells me to love my neighbor. You take comfort in the suffering and damnation of my neighbor. Why would I ignore Christ and instead believe you.....especially when what your'e telling me is EXPLICITLY contradicted by Christ himself?

There is no reason. I refuse to hate anyone because you do.

Twisting? I'm QUOTING. Verbatim. And when I ask you to show me ANY caveats or exceptions to the great commandment to love your neighbor....

.......you've got jack shit.

There are none. And yet you imagine a special exemption for YOUR bigotry, for YOUR hatred, a special set of rules that excuse you from following the commandment. Um, no. I'm not doing that.

How then is it 'twisting God's word' to recognize that when Christ commanded that we love our neighbor, he commanded that we love our neighbor? And why would any Christian take 'comfort' in anyone's damnation? What sick **** takes comfort in someone else's suffering?

Not a Christian.
Christ said to not sin. You seem to think that sinning is OK. I'm quoting Christ's words verbatim.

And how does Christ's commandment to 'go and sin no more' exempt you from his greatest commandment: to love your neighbor?

It doesn't. You're trying to find loopholes. Excuses. And there are none. I will not hate my neighbor. Not because he's gay. Not because he sins. Not because you take comfort in my neighbor's suffering and damnation.

I will not ignore Christ and instead follow someone insisting I ignore Christ and follow him.
Because I, like Christ, can distinguish between the person and the action. There is no loophole. You think telling someone what they're doing is wrong is hating the person. It's hating the sin.
So you're demonstrating your love for your neighbor by calling them faggots and n*ggers? In taking comfort in their suffering and damnation?

That fruit is rotten to the core.

I'm not going to hate my neighbor. I'm not going to ignore Christ on one of the two of his greatest commandments. And I'm not going to take comfort that ANYONE doesn't make it into heaven. Instead, I'm going to mourn them.

As any real Christian would do.

What you'll do is ignore what Christ said about SIN and try to justify tolerating the ACTION by twisting his words.

Christ never told me to hate anyone because they sin. Or to take comfort in their damnation because they sin.

Christ commanded me to love my neighbor. And I'll follow him on that commandment. Not your hateful vitriol about 'faggots' and 'n*ggers' and taking comfort that someone else will be going to hell.
 
I've claimed he told you to love your neighbor. And that he gave you no caveats around that. No excuses. But told you to love your neighbor as yourself. To love one another as he loved you.

And your response is to tell Christ to go **** himself. To ignore Christ and imagine excuses for HATING your neighbor, for ignoring one of the two great commandments.

Um, no. I'm not doing that. I'm listening to Christ on this one. Not to a bigot who tells me to do exactly opposite of what Christ commanded. And I'm certainly not taking 'comfort' or joy in anyone's damnation.

That's not Christianity. That's anti-Christianity you're spewing.

I've claimed Christ said to go and sin no more without caveats but you ignore it.

Christ didn't say 'love one another, as I have loved you....except the sinners'. He told us to love our neighbor. Period. There are no caveats. There are no loopholes.

Christ tells me to love my neighbor. You take comfort in the suffering and damnation of my neighbor. Why would I ignore Christ and instead believe you.....especially when what your'e telling me is EXPLICITLY contradicted by Christ himself?

There is no reason. I refuse to hate anyone because you do.

My response is to tell you who twist God's word to go **** yourself.

Twisting? I'm QUOTING. Verbatim. And when I ask you to show me ANY caveats or exceptions to the great commandment to love your neighbor....

.......you've got jack shit.

There are none. And yet you imagine a special exemption for YOUR bigotry, for YOUR hatred, a special set of rules that excuse you from following the commandment. Um, no. I'm not doing that.

How then is it 'twisting God's word' to recognize that when Christ commanded that we love our neighbor, he commanded that we love our neighbor? And why would any Christian take 'comfort' in anyone's damnation? What sick **** takes comfort in someone else's suffering?

Not a Christian.
Christ said to not sin. You seem to think that sinning is OK. I'm quoting Christ's words verbatim.

And how does Christ's commandment to 'go and sin no more' exempt you from his greatest commandment: to love your neighbor?

It doesn't. You're trying to find loopholes. Excuses. And there are none. I will not hate my neighbor. Not because he's gay. Not because he sins. Not because you take comfort in my neighbor's suffering and damnation.

I will not ignore Christ and instead follow someone insisting I ignore Christ and follow him.
Because I, like Christ, can distinguish between the person and the action. There is no loophole. You think telling someone what they're doing is wrong is hating the person. It's hating the sin.

If you tolerate your neighbor's sin, you hate God and the teaching of Christ. For that, God made it clear that you will suffer despite his desire you don't. It's your choice.

Yet nowhere in the Bible does it say that.

You just made that all up.

You ignore God's greatest commandment- and instead focus on Paul's ramblings.
 
Yes it matters. And gay couples don't really love kids in the first place or they wouldn't put kids in a situation where they are deprived of both gender roles. Real parents have a love for their children that's sacrificial, that puts their needs first. Gays selfishly attempt to create the illusion of a family no matter who it hurts. They are intrinsically self centered and hedonistic.

You act as if a woman and man having a kid automatically makes them good, 'sacrificial' parents. Science, statistics, and I myself from knowing unfortunate children growing up can assure you that you're wrong. You're getting high off sniffing your own rank dogma. Next time, spare yourself the embarrassment and do a 5 second google search to fact check your ridiculous claims.

Thanks for playing. You can leave now.
A mother and father create the ideal home. Anything else falls short of that ideal. The failure of some parents to meet that ideal doesn't invalidate it. Depriving a child of a mother or a father is wrong no matter how it's done.
 
A mother and father create the ideal home. Anything else falls short of that ideal. The failure of some parents to meet that ideal doesn't invalidate it. Depriving a child of a mother or a father is wrong no matter how it's done.

If the state were to take a child away from a drug using, abusive mother and father, and a loving, responsible lesbian couple were to adopt it, I don't think the child would be 'deprived' of anything. You're just the kind of person that judges a group of people by it's whole instead of on the merit of individuals. This country is based on the merits of individuals, not on the stereotypes of groups. One day, I hope God allows you to see this, "Saint Michael".
 
A mother and father create the ideal home. Anything else falls short of that ideal. The failure of some parents to meet that ideal doesn't invalidate it. Depriving a child of a mother or a father is wrong no matter how it's done.

If the state were to take a child away from a drug using, abusive mother and father, and a loving, responsible lesbian couple were to adopt it, I don't think the child would be 'deprived' of anything. You're just the kind of person that judges a group of people by it's whole instead of on the merit of individuals. This country is based on the merits of individuals, not on the stereotypes of groups. One day, I hope God allows you to see this, "Saint Michael".
Because a gay or lesbian couple are less than ideal, they should be considered only if there were no real parents left in the world. Fat chance. Children would fare better being raised feral by wolves than by sodomites.
 
Because a gay or lesbian couple are less than ideal, they should be considered only if there were no real parents left in the world. Fat chance. Children would fare better being raised feral by wolves than by sodomites.

Yeah, you're right "Saint Michael" (lol)
It would be better to throw children into a wolves den and pray they live then let a responsible pair of gays raise them.



You need to pray.
 
Because a gay or lesbian couple are less than ideal, they should be considered only if there were no real parents left in the world. Fat chance. Children would fare better being raised feral by wolves than by sodomites.

Yeah, you're right "Saint Michael" (lol)
It would be better to throw children into a wolves den and pray they live then let a responsible pair of gays raise them.



You need to pray.
Some on here would agree that the former is preferable. There are a lot of right wing crazies here.
 
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Because a gay or lesbian couple are less than ideal, they should be considered only if there were no real parents left in the world. Fat chance. Children would fare better being raised feral by wolves than by sodomites.

Yeah, you're right "Saint Michael" (lol)
It would be better to throw children into a wolves den and pray they live then let a responsible pair of gays raise them.



You need to pray.
Some on here would agree that the former is preferable. There are a lot of right wing crazies here.


I've noticed. A raped woman can't seem to get a safe abortion in her first trimester, yet if a kid has to choose between wild wolves and gay parents, the kids should get the wolves.


Saying you're a social conservative is like saying you were born without cognitive functions.
 
I hope they do but I'm smart enough to know they won't.
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No, you said you 'hope they make it' to Heaven, but you're 'comforted' some won't.

That makes zero sense. Sorry, Old Bigot.

Are you bipolar, or just highly unintelligent?

I hope everyone makes it but I'm smart enough to know some will make choices in life that means they won't. I'm comforted in knowing sinners won't be in heaven.

You can't fathom my high level of intelligence. If you even finished high school, the best you could do is a 2 year of State college. They let anyone in.

I shouldn't get involved in this silly sidetrack, but I can't help it.

It was my understand that according to Christianity, we are all sinners. Wouldn't that mean that everyone in heaven, minus Christ himself, is a sinner? I thought the point was to accept Christ as your savior and do your best to live sin free, but that we all will fail to do so; sinning is inherent in the human condition.
 
A mother and father create the ideal home. Anything else falls short of that ideal. The failure of some parents to meet that ideal doesn't invalidate it. Depriving a child of a mother or a father is wrong no matter how it's done.

If the state were to take a child away from a drug using, abusive mother and father, and a loving, responsible lesbian couple were to adopt it, I don't think the child would be 'deprived' of anything. You're just the kind of person that judges a group of people by it's whole instead of on the merit of individuals. This country is based on the merits of individuals, not on the stereotypes of groups. One day, I hope God allows you to see this, "Saint Michael".
Because a gay or lesbian couple are less than ideal, they should be considered only if there were no real parents left in the world. Fat chance. Children would fare better being raised feral by wolves than by sodomites.

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I hope they do but I'm smart enough to know they won't.
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No, you said you 'hope they make it' to Heaven, but you're 'comforted' some won't.

That makes zero sense. Sorry, Old Bigot.

Are you bipolar, or just highly unintelligent?

I hope everyone makes it but I'm smart enough to know some will make choices in life that means they won't. I'm comforted in knowing sinners won't be in heaven.

You can't fathom my high level of intelligence. If you even finished high school, the best you could do is a 2 year of State college. They let anyone in.

I shouldn't get involved in this silly sidetrack, but I can't help it.

It was my understand that according to Christianity, we are all sinners. Wouldn't that mean that everyone in heaven, minus Christ himself, is a sinner? I thought the point was to accept Christ as your savior and do your best to live sin free, but that we all will fail to do so; sinning is inherent in the human condition.

Sure we are. Some do their best to turn away and others think continuing to sin despite what Christ said about "go and sin no more" don't. They try to convince people being a "good person" or that because Christ said he loved all people, it means they can continue to sin and it will be OK.
 

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