A chance to rework US history to a more equitable understanding.

[Asclepias]

While many things have been invented in America, claiming slavery as one of them is about as far fetched as it is possible to get. Redefining it to some way to some subcategory of human ownership in order to attempt to make it seem worse has no apparent function other than divisiveness and guilt tripping. Owned is owned. Being born into slavery is being born into it. This existed throughout human history in all cultures. No one knows how many Europeans were sold into the Orient. Indigenous peoples did it to their own as well as others. No qualitative difference can be detected; it was always despicable.

Thats a pretty ignorant statement. Chattel slavery will forever be a american invention. Slavery prior to that did not remove the fact that these were people, humans and not livestock. Slaves frequently intermarried with their owners family and some rose to leadership positions. Only someone woefully ignorant of the facts or an out right liar would make the claim you just made.

 

[progressive hunter]

Re working history means telling the truth. White america cant handle the truth. It would cause confusion and heighten the inferiority complex they already have.

what truth are we getting wrong??

Literally everything. Whites seem to lie to make themselves feel like they are better. This goes double for american whites.

thats racist,,,

How is it racist to point out that your white ancestors lied to you to make you feel better and you dont want to hear the facts?

your mistaken that only white americans wrote history,, and yes you are a racist,,

I didnt say only white americans wrote history. There is a reason I know the truth. Other people recorded real history.
I'm saying the version of history you wish to embrace is written by white people and taught in public schools.

how do you know what I wish to embrace??

Youre angry which tells me what you wish to embrace.

where have I shown anger,,

Just read where you went off topic and called me a racist like that would change the subject or the facts.

youre the one that was making it about white people and ignoring a lot of the realities of history,, and we all already know you are a racist that blames everything on white people,,

 

[Asclepias]

Genuine history is context and fact taken together. Given the world out of which the U.S. emerged, its concepts of government were radically liberal and liberating. Naturally, there were many who took advantage of this at the expense of others. Naturally, not everyone advanced at the same rate. Honesty dictates, nonetheless, that the real human benefits be recognized. Life was hard for the majority of people. The majority worked hard to exist. Poor men, women and minorities all took a back seat to the rich and powerful, just as in every other country. Yet, unlike almost every other nation, progress was made until everyone's lot improved and mistakes of the past were more and more corrected. Looking at what was accomplished in comparison with the rest of the world, America looks pretty good. It paid a heavy price for the involvement in slavery that it inherited from previous eons, but managed to survive and continue incremental improvement while many other areas of the world went nowhere, or even slid backward.

Nevertheless, the principles in your bill of rights were just aspirational. And were for a long time. Why not recognise the date when they became reality ? Something that all Americans can celebrate.

Why not the date when the majority of the population got the right to vote?

What does that have to do with date everyone was free? You have to be free before you can vote.

 

[Asclepias]

Re working history means telling the truth. White america cant handle the truth. It would cause confusion and heighten the inferiority complex they already have.

what truth are we getting wrong??

Literally everything. Whites seem to lie to make themselves feel like they are better. This goes double for american whites.

thats racist,,,

How is it racist to point out that your white ancestors lied to you to make you feel better and you dont want to hear the facts?

your mistaken that only white americans wrote history,, and yes you are a racist,,

I didnt say only white americans wrote history. There is a reason I know the truth. Other people recorded real history.
I'm saying the version of history you wish to embrace is written by white people and taught in public schools.

how do you know what I wish to embrace??

Youre angry which tells me what you wish to embrace.

where have I shown anger,,

Just read where you went off topic and called me a racist like that would change the subject or the facts.

youre the one that was making it about white people and ignoring a lot of the realities of history,, and we all already know you are a racist that blames everything on white people,,

Youre getting angry again. Let me know when you want to discuss and can put your feelings aside.

 

[Yarddog]

Juneteenth: How the US holiday is being celebrated

People are marking the anniversary of the last enslaved black Americans being freed on 19 June 1865.

www.bbc.co.uk

The new national holiday has caused a lot of discussion about American history. July 4th seems to be a divisive date. Not least because "Independence Day" was anything but for many Americans.

Perhaps now is the time to re-evaluate the past and seek a consensus about what it means to be American.

The values and aspirations of the constitution cannot be faulted but the application fell well short for at least a couple of centuries. Is it not time to divide American history into two distinct segments. If you like an "Old Testament" and a "New Testament" .

So the New Testament would start from a time where the nation started to reflect the principles of its founders. You could argue for several different dates here. Juneteenth would have its supporters and deserves to be recognised as a hugely important date in the nations story.

But perhaps that would be a little premature. The struggle still continued. What about the passing of the Civil Rights Act in 1964. Possibly a more credible start date for the nation and a substantial step forward to that "all men created equal" stuff.

What about 2008 when President Obama was elected? Truly an amazing moment for the country and an inspiration to millions across the planet, and Alabama.

So everything before 64/08 would be bad "old testament" America where the constitution was basically a lying sham of a document. And after 64/08 would be "New testament" America where the constitution takes life and the country starts to live up to its founders aspirations. Every American can then share in the triumphs and defeats of the country from that date onwards.

Or perhaps you could suggest a different date ? What say you America ?

how do you 'REWORK" history???

It is how you present it. "Independence Day" was anything but that for large numbers of Americans. Why persist with something so divisive. The past drags you down.

Why not show some honesty so that you can move forward ?

It was independence day from the reign of England and the colonies began the process of a new nation. We still had slaves. thats history deal with it the good, bad and ugly.
As much as you hate it, July 4th IS Independence day... its only devisive for marxists and people who are trying to tear down the United states at every front. You have to tear down the self esteem of a country first to create a more Socialist/ Communist nation... its all in your communist handbookThis is just one more thing for you Tommy, to point out the imperfection of the U.S.

Your country had slaves for centuries Longer, and you didn't always have them at home.. you kept your slaves in places like India and Africa as you colonized them. The US is such a crappy place for you yet... we take in more immigrants every year than any of you European Hippocrytes and we give them a much better chance to succeed then their bleak existence in your European ghettos you allow them to live in.. Give it a rest Tommy.. you people really suck which is why we had to kick your ass once... and then come over and fix the mess you guys created in 1938

 

[Turtlesoup]

Juneteenth: How the US holiday is being celebrated

People are marking the anniversary of the last enslaved black Americans being freed on 19 June 1865.

www.bbc.co.uk

The new national holiday has caused a lot of discussion about American history. July 4th seems to be a divisive date. Not least because "Independence Day" was anything but for many Americans.

Perhaps now is the time to re-evaluate the past and seek a consensus about what it means to be American.

The values and aspirations of the constitution cannot be faulted but the application fell well short for at least a couple of centuries. Is it not time to divide American history into two distinct segments. If you like an "Old Testament" and a "New Testament" .

So the New Testament would start from a time where the nation started to reflect the principles of its founders. You could argue for several different dates here. Juneteenth would have its supporters and deserves to be recognised as a hugely important date in the nations story.

But perhaps that would be a little premature. The struggle still continued. What about the passing of the Civil Rights Act in 1964. Possibly a more credible start date for the nation and a substantial step forward to that "all men created equal" stuff.

What about 2008 when President Obama was elected? Truly an amazing moment for the country and an inspiration to millions across the planet, and Alabama.

So everything before 64/08 would be bad "old testament" America where the constitution was basically a lying sham of a document. And after 64/08 would be "New testament" America where the constitution takes life and the country starts to live up to its founders aspirations. Every American can then share in the triumphs and defeats of the country from that date onwards.

Or perhaps you could suggest a different date ? What say you America ?

June 19 is a historically nonsense date and means nothing other than there were no other federal holidays in the month of june. The civil war was a bleak time for the US--brother against brother over taxation and states rights.

and for the last time, several of the union states had slaves.. the war was not about slavery. Ending slavery simply became a way to punish the south for daring to go to war. The north and the south had many issues and were often contentious on many fronts.

At the start of the Civil War, there were 34 states in the United States, 15 of which were slave states. 11 of these slave states, after conventions devoted to the topic, issued declarations of secession from the United States and created the Confederate States of America and were represented in the Confederate Congress.[22][23] The slave states that stayed in the Union, Maryland, Missouri, Delaware, and Kentucky (called border states) remained seated in the U.S. Congress. By the time the Emancipation Proclamation was issued in 1863, Tennessee was already under Union control. Accordingly, the Proclamation applied only in the 10 remaining Confederate states. During the war, abolition of slavery was required by President Abraham Lincoln for readmission of Confederate states.[24]

The U.S. Congress, after the departure of the powerful Southern contingent in 1861, was generally abolitionist: In a plan endorsed by Abraham Lincoln, slavery in the District of Columbia, which the Southern contingent had protected, was abolished in 1862.[25] The Union-occupied territories of Louisiana[26] and eastern Virginia,[27] which had been exempted from the Emancipation Proclamation, also abolished slavery through respective state constitutions drafted in 1864. The State of Arkansas, which was not exempt but which in part came under Union control by 1864, adopted an anti-slavery constitution in March of that year.[28] The border states of Maryland (November 1864)[29] and Missouri (January 1865),[30] the Union-occupied Confederate state, Tennessee (January 1865),[31] and the new state of West Virginia, separated from Virginia in 1863 over the issue of slavery,[32] abolished slavery in February 1865, prior to the end of the Civil War. However, slavery persisted in Delaware,[33] Kentucky,[34] and New Jersey[35][36] and on the books in 7 of 11 of the former Confederate states, until the Thirteenth Amendment to the United States Constitution abolished slavery throughout the United States on December 6, 1865, ending the distinction between slave and free states.[37]

 

[progressive hunter]

Re working history means telling the truth. White america cant handle the truth. It would cause confusion and heighten the inferiority complex they already have.

what truth are we getting wrong??

Literally everything. Whites seem to lie to make themselves feel like they are better. This goes double for american whites.

thats racist,,,

How is it racist to point out that your white ancestors lied to you to make you feel better and you dont want to hear the facts?

your mistaken that only white americans wrote history,, and yes you are a racist,,

I didnt say only white americans wrote history. There is a reason I know the truth. Other people recorded real history.
I'm saying the version of history you wish to embrace is written by white people and taught in public schools.

how do you know what I wish to embrace??

Youre angry which tells me what you wish to embrace.

where have I shown anger,,

Just read where you went off topic and called me a racist like that would change the subject or the facts.

youre the one that was making it about white people and ignoring a lot of the realities of history,, and we all already know you are a racist that blames everything on white people,,

Youre getting angry again. Let me know when you want to discuss and can put your feelings aside.

what makes you think I/m angry??

how about addressing what I said??

 

[Asclepias]

Re working history means telling the truth. White america cant handle the truth. It would cause confusion and heighten the inferiority complex they already have.

what truth are we getting wrong??

Literally everything. Whites seem to lie to make themselves feel like they are better. This goes double for american whites.

thats racist,,,

How is it racist to point out that your white ancestors lied to you to make you feel better and you dont want to hear the facts?

your mistaken that only white americans wrote history,, and yes you are a racist,,

I didnt say only white americans wrote history. There is a reason I know the truth. Other people recorded real history.
I'm saying the version of history you wish to embrace is written by white people and taught in public schools.

how do you know what I wish to embrace??

Youre angry which tells me what you wish to embrace.

where have I shown anger,,

Just read where you went off topic and called me a racist like that would change the subject or the facts.

youre the one that was making it about white people and ignoring a lot of the realities of history,, and we all already know you are a racist that blames everything on white people,,

Youre getting angry again. Let me know when you want to discuss and can put your feelings aside.

what makes you think I/m angry??

how about addressing what I said??

I dont address emotional outburst that are off topic. If you want to discuss the topic let me know.

 

[Asclepias]

Ending slavery simply became a way to punish the south for daring to go to war.

"Ending slavery simply became a way to punish the south for daring to go to war."

This was the only factual part of your comment.

 

[progressive hunter]

Re working history means telling the truth. White america cant handle the truth. It would cause confusion and heighten the inferiority complex they already have.

what truth are we getting wrong??

Literally everything. Whites seem to lie to make themselves feel like they are better. This goes double for american whites.

thats racist,,,

How is it racist to point out that your white ancestors lied to you to make you feel better and you dont want to hear the facts?

your mistaken that only white americans wrote history,, and yes you are a racist,,

I didnt say only white americans wrote history. There is a reason I know the truth. Other people recorded real history.
I'm saying the version of history you wish to embrace is written by white people and taught in public schools.

how do you know what I wish to embrace??

Youre angry which tells me what you wish to embrace.

where have I shown anger,,

Just read where you went off topic and called me a racist like that would change the subject or the facts.

youre the one that was making it about white people and ignoring a lot of the realities of history,, and we all already know you are a racist that blames everything on white people,,

Youre getting angry again. Let me know when you want to discuss and can put your feelings aside.

what makes you think I/m angry??

how about addressing what I said??

I dont address emotional outburst that are off topic. If you want to discuss the topic let me know.

why are you ignoring the totality of history and only focused on the white people??

remember the majority of founders wanted to end slavery, but it was the ones that later formed the democrat party that forced it to remain,,,

 

[Asclepias]

Re working history means telling the truth. White america cant handle the truth. It would cause confusion and heighten the inferiority complex they already have.

what truth are we getting wrong??

Literally everything. Whites seem to lie to make themselves feel like they are better. This goes double for american whites.

thats racist,,,

How is it racist to point out that your white ancestors lied to you to make you feel better and you dont want to hear the facts?

your mistaken that only white americans wrote history,, and yes you are a racist,,

I didnt say only white americans wrote history. There is a reason I know the truth. Other people recorded real history.
I'm saying the version of history you wish to embrace is written by white people and taught in public schools.

how do you know what I wish to embrace??

Youre angry which tells me what you wish to embrace.

where have I shown anger,,

Just read where you went off topic and called me a racist like that would change the subject or the facts.

youre the one that was making it about white people and ignoring a lot of the realities of history,, and we all already know you are a racist that blames everything on white people,,

Youre getting angry again. Let me know when you want to discuss and can put your feelings aside.

what makes you think I/m angry??

how about addressing what I said??

I dont address emotional outburst that are off topic. If you want to discuss the topic let me know.

why are you ignoring the totality of history and only focused on the white people??

remember the majority of founders wanted to end slavery, but it was the ones that later formed the democrat party that forced it to remain,,,

Not sure what you mean by the totality of history?

If the majority of the founders wanted to end slavery why did the majority of them own slaves?

 

[JustAGuy1]

Re working history means telling the truth. White america cant handle the truth. It would cause confusion and heighten the inferiority complex they already have.

what truth are we getting wrong??

Literally everything. Whites seem to lie to make themselves feel like they are better. This goes double for american whites.

thats racist,,,

How is it racist to point out that your white ancestors lied to you to make you feel better and you dont want to hear the facts?

your mistaken that only white americans wrote history,, and yes you are a racist,,

I didnt say only white americans wrote history. There is a reason I know the truth. Other people recorded real history.
I'm saying the version of history you wish to embrace is written by white people and taught in public schools.

how do you know what I wish to embrace??

Youre angry which tells me what you wish to embrace.

where have I shown anger,,

Just read where you went off topic and called me a racist like that would change the subject or the facts.

youre the one that was making it about white people and ignoring a lot of the realities of history,, and we all already know you are a racist that blames everything on white people,,

Youre getting angry again. Let me know when you want to discuss and can put your feelings aside.

what makes you think I/m angry??

how about addressing what I said??

I dont address emotional outburst that are off topic. If you want to discuss the topic let me know.

why are you ignoring the totality of history and only focused on the white people??

remember the majority of founders wanted to end slavery, but it was the ones that later formed the democrat party that forced it to remain,,,

Because he wants "whitey's" money. He cares nothing about slavery being rampant in Africa or that blacks were the most prolific supplie3rs of blacks to the slave traders.

 

[there4eyeM]

Juneteenth: How the US holiday is being celebrated

People are marking the anniversary of the last enslaved black Americans being freed on 19 June 1865.

www.bbc.co.uk

The new national holiday has caused a lot of discussion about American history. July 4th seems to be a divisive date. Not least because "Independence Day" was anything but for many Americans.

Perhaps now is the time to re-evaluate the past and seek a consensus about what it means to be American.

The values and aspirations of the constitution cannot be faulted but the application fell well short for at least a couple of centuries. Is it not time to divide American history into two distinct segments. If you like an "Old Testament" and a "New Testament" .

So the New Testament would start from a time where the nation started to reflect the principles of its founders. You could argue for several different dates here. Juneteenth would have its supporters and deserves to be recognised as a hugely important date in the nations story.

But perhaps that would be a little premature. The struggle still continued. What about the passing of the Civil Rights Act in 1964. Possibly a more credible start date for the nation and a substantial step forward to that "all men created equal" stuff.

What about 2008 when President Obama was elected? Truly an amazing moment for the country and an inspiration to millions across the planet, and Alabama.

So everything before 64/08 would be bad "old testament" America where the constitution was basically a lying sham of a document. And after 64/08 would be "New testament" America where the constitution takes life and the country starts to live up to its founders aspirations. Every American can then share in the triumphs and defeats of the country from that date onwards.

Or perhaps you could suggest a different date ? What say you America ?

All that this "holiday" has accomplished, and this thread as well, is to draw out more immense intellectual dishonesty, vitriol and distortion. There is no discussion any more, just tired name calling and repetition of clichés. It goes nowhere, so I am going elsewhere.

 

[Tommy Tainant]

Genuine history is context and fact taken together. Given the world out of which the U.S. emerged, its concepts of government were radically liberal and liberating. Naturally, there were many who took advantage of this at the expense of others. Naturally, not everyone advanced at the same rate. Honesty dictates, nonetheless, that the real human benefits be recognized. Life was hard for the majority of people. The majority worked hard to exist. Poor men, women and minorities all took a back seat to the rich and powerful, just as in every other country. Yet, unlike almost every other nation, progress was made until everyone's lot improved and mistakes of the past were more and more corrected. Looking at what was accomplished in comparison with the rest of the world, America looks pretty good. It paid a heavy price for the involvement in slavery that it inherited from previous eons, but managed to survive and continue incremental improvement while many other areas of the world went nowhere, or even slid backward.

Nevertheless, the principles in your bill of rights were just aspirational. And were for a long time. Why not recognise the date when they became reality ? Something that all Americans can celebrate.

Why not the date when the majority of the population got the right to vote?

Why not the date when you could marry who you wanted or live where you wanted ?

 

[Asclepias]

Juneteenth: How the US holiday is being celebrated

People are marking the anniversary of the last enslaved black Americans being freed on 19 June 1865.

www.bbc.co.uk

The new national holiday has caused a lot of discussion about American history. July 4th seems to be a divisive date. Not least because "Independence Day" was anything but for many Americans.

Perhaps now is the time to re-evaluate the past and seek a consensus about what it means to be American.

The values and aspirations of the constitution cannot be faulted but the application fell well short for at least a couple of centuries. Is it not time to divide American history into two distinct segments. If you like an "Old Testament" and a "New Testament" .

So the New Testament would start from a time where the nation started to reflect the principles of its founders. You could argue for several different dates here. Juneteenth would have its supporters and deserves to be recognised as a hugely important date in the nations story.

But perhaps that would be a little premature. The struggle still continued. What about the passing of the Civil Rights Act in 1964. Possibly a more credible start date for the nation and a substantial step forward to that "all men created equal" stuff.

What about 2008 when President Obama was elected? Truly an amazing moment for the country and an inspiration to millions across the planet, and Alabama.

So everything before 64/08 would be bad "old testament" America where the constitution was basically a lying sham of a document. And after 64/08 would be "New testament" America where the constitution takes life and the country starts to live up to its founders aspirations. Every American can then share in the triumphs and defeats of the country from that date onwards.

Or perhaps you could suggest a different date ? What say you America ?

All that this "holiday" has accomplished, and this thread as well, is to draw out more immense intellectual dishonesty, vitriol and distortion. There is no discussion any more, just tired name calling and repetition of clichés. It goes nowhere, so I am going elsewhere.

"All that this "holiday" has accomplished, and this thread as well, is to draw out more immense intellectual dishonesty, vitriol and distortion. "

This is true. White people can't seem to stomach the celebration of the true ending of slavery.

 

[Dekster]

Juneteenth: How the US holiday is being celebrated

People are marking the anniversary of the last enslaved black Americans being freed on 19 June 1865.

www.bbc.co.uk

The new national holiday has caused a lot of discussion about American history. July 4th seems to be a divisive date. Not least because "Independence Day" was anything but for many Americans.

Perhaps now is the time to re-evaluate the past and seek a consensus about what it means to be American.

The values and aspirations of the constitution cannot be faulted but the application fell well short for at least a couple of centuries. Is it not time to divide American history into two distinct segments. If you like an "Old Testament" and a "New Testament" .

So the New Testament would start from a time where the nation started to reflect the principles of its founders. You could argue for several different dates here. Juneteenth would have its supporters and deserves to be recognised as a hugely important date in the nations story.

But perhaps that would be a little premature. The struggle still continued. What about the passing of the Civil Rights Act in 1964. Possibly a more credible start date for the nation and a substantial step forward to that "all men created equal" stuff.

What about 2008 when President Obama was elected? Truly an amazing moment for the country and an inspiration to millions across the planet, and Alabama.

So everything before 64/08 would be bad "old testament" America where the constitution was basically a lying sham of a document. And after 64/08 would be "New testament" America where the constitution takes life and the country starts to live up to its founders aspirations. Every American can then share in the triumphs and defeats of the country from that date onwards.

Or perhaps you could suggest a different date ? What say you America ?

Should we change our dating system too so that we measure our years as Before Obama (BO) and After Obama (AO)?

There isn't going to be a consensus on history.

 

[Tommy Tainant]

Juneteenth: How the US holiday is being celebrated

People are marking the anniversary of the last enslaved black Americans being freed on 19 June 1865.

www.bbc.co.uk

The new national holiday has caused a lot of discussion about American history. July 4th seems to be a divisive date. Not least because "Independence Day" was anything but for many Americans.

Perhaps now is the time to re-evaluate the past and seek a consensus about what it means to be American.

The values and aspirations of the constitution cannot be faulted but the application fell well short for at least a couple of centuries. Is it not time to divide American history into two distinct segments. If you like an "Old Testament" and a "New Testament" .

So the New Testament would start from a time where the nation started to reflect the principles of its founders. You could argue for several different dates here. Juneteenth would have its supporters and deserves to be recognised as a hugely important date in the nations story.

But perhaps that would be a little premature. The struggle still continued. What about the passing of the Civil Rights Act in 1964. Possibly a more credible start date for the nation and a substantial step forward to that "all men created equal" stuff.

What about 2008 when President Obama was elected? Truly an amazing moment for the country and an inspiration to millions across the planet, and Alabama.

So everything before 64/08 would be bad "old testament" America where the constitution was basically a lying sham of a document. And after 64/08 would be "New testament" America where the constitution takes life and the country starts to live up to its founders aspirations. Every American can then share in the triumphs and defeats of the country from that date onwards.

Or perhaps you could suggest a different date ? What say you America ?

All that this "holiday" has accomplished, and this thread as well, is to draw out more immense intellectual dishonesty, vitriol and distortion. There is no discussion any more, just tired name calling and repetition of clichés. It goes nowhere, so I am going elsewhere.

The dishonesty is coming from the people unable or unwilling to accept that their cherished beliefs are basically bullshit. That they are mainly racists is no coincidence.

 

[Asclepias]

Juneteenth: How the US holiday is being celebrated

People are marking the anniversary of the last enslaved black Americans being freed on 19 June 1865.

www.bbc.co.uk

The new national holiday has caused a lot of discussion about American history. July 4th seems to be a divisive date. Not least because "Independence Day" was anything but for many Americans.

Perhaps now is the time to re-evaluate the past and seek a consensus about what it means to be American.

The values and aspirations of the constitution cannot be faulted but the application fell well short for at least a couple of centuries. Is it not time to divide American history into two distinct segments. If you like an "Old Testament" and a "New Testament" .

So the New Testament would start from a time where the nation started to reflect the principles of its founders. You could argue for several different dates here. Juneteenth would have its supporters and deserves to be recognised as a hugely important date in the nations story.

But perhaps that would be a little premature. The struggle still continued. What about the passing of the Civil Rights Act in 1964. Possibly a more credible start date for the nation and a substantial step forward to that "all men created equal" stuff.

What about 2008 when President Obama was elected? Truly an amazing moment for the country and an inspiration to millions across the planet, and Alabama.

So everything before 64/08 would be bad "old testament" America where the constitution was basically a lying sham of a document. And after 64/08 would be "New testament" America where the constitution takes life and the country starts to live up to its founders aspirations. Every American can then share in the triumphs and defeats of the country from that date onwards.

Or perhaps you could suggest a different date ? What say you America ?

Should we change our dating system too so that we measure our years as Before Obama (BO) and After Obama (AO)?

There isn't going to be a consensus on history.

Obama still renting space in your head? Let it go.

Of course there will not be a consensus on history. People view history through their own lenses.

 

[progressive hunter]

Re working history means telling the truth. White america cant handle the truth. It would cause confusion and heighten the inferiority complex they already have.

what truth are we getting wrong??

Literally everything. Whites seem to lie to make themselves feel like they are better. This goes double for american whites.

thats racist,,,

How is it racist to point out that your white ancestors lied to you to make you feel better and you dont want to hear the facts?

your mistaken that only white americans wrote history,, and yes you are a racist,,

I didnt say only white americans wrote history. There is a reason I know the truth. Other people recorded real history.
I'm saying the version of history you wish to embrace is written by white people and taught in public schools.

how do you know what I wish to embrace??

Youre angry which tells me what you wish to embrace.

where have I shown anger,,

Just read where you went off topic and called me a racist like that would change the subject or the facts.

youre the one that was making it about white people and ignoring a lot of the realities of history,, and we all already know you are a racist that blames everything on white people,,

Youre getting angry again. Let me know when you want to discuss and can put your feelings aside.

what makes you think I/m angry??

how about addressing what I said??

I dont address emotional outburst that are off topic. If you want to discuss the topic let me know.

why are you ignoring the totality of history and only focused on the white people??

remember the majority of founders wanted to end slavery, but it was the ones that later formed the democrat party that forced it to remain,,,

Not sure what you mean by the totality of history?

If the majority of the founders wanted to end slavery why did the majority of them own slaves?

youre spinning the reality,, the ones like jefferson wanted to free them but the laws at the time wouldnt allow it,,

sounds like you need to read other sources than what your reading

 

[whitehall]

There is no such thing as "equitable understanding". What you are talking about is acceptable propaganda.