9th Circuit Litmus Test

[PoliticalChic]

The Constitution seldom stopped liberals in the past. So, seems likely it won't this time either.

If the Constitution were followed as written, would liberalism exist?

According to several on here, the people that wrote the Constitution were liberals.

Maybe that's why they're so dissatisfied with it.

Only today's Liberals advance the lie that the Founders were their kin.

They were not.
They envisioned a nation based on individualism, free markets, and limited constitutional government.
That identifies them as classical liberals, or what we would call conservatives today.

 

[nat4900]

The most overturned court in history.

How ‘liberal’ reputation of 9th Circuit Court of Appeals is overblown, scholars say

How 'liberal' reputation of 9th Circuit Court of Appeals is overblown, scholars say

 

[nat4900]

Only today's Liberals advance the lie that the Founders were their kin.

They were not.
They envisioned a nation based on individualism, free markets, and limited constitutional government.
That identifies them as classical liberals, or what we would call conservatives today.

Ignorance personified by the above nitwit.,....

Prior to the Civil War, virtually ALL of the government's income was from tariffs on trade.

 

[PoliticalChic]

The most overturned court in history.

How ‘liberal’ reputation of 9th Circuit Court of Appeals is overblown, scholars say

How 'liberal' reputation of 9th Circuit Court of Appeals is overblown, scholars say

1. I believe five of the 25 judges were not appointed by Democrats.

72% were Democrat appointees.
United States Court of Appeals for the Ninth Circuit - Ballotpedia



2. "Still, it is hard to ignore the sheer volume of cases and reversals that involve the Ninth Circuit."
SCOTUS for law students (sponsored by Bloomberg Law): Scoring the circuits - SCOTUSblog

3. While there is no "Far Right" in this country, the record of the 9th Circuit speaks to how far Liberals/Democrats are out of the mainstream.
Clearly, there is a "Far Left," and ground zero is the 9th Circuit.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Only today's Liberals advance the lie that the Founders were their kin.

They were not.
They envisioned a nation based on individualism, free markets, and limited constitutional government.
That identifies them as classical liberals, or what we would call conservatives today.

Ignorance personified by the above nitwit.,....

Prior to the Civil War, virtually ALL of the government's income was from tariffs on trade.

What makes you believe....I almost said 'think'....the reference is to government's income?



Having been so spanked, you may now continue getting free buffet coupons or frequent flier miles for trips to the last seat in the dumb row.
Dismissed.

 

[Soggy in NOLA]

The most overturned court in history.

How ‘liberal’ reputation of 9th Circuit Court of Appeals is overblown, scholars say

How 'liberal' reputation of 9th Circuit Court of Appeals is overblown, scholars say

I said nothing of the sort... just pointing out they overwhelmingly get it wrong.

Prediction: They will vote against Trump and eventually be overturned.

 

[ColonelAngus]

No matter what crying is done by snowflakes, until they get 8 US Code 1182 section (f) changed, TRUMP'S TRAVEL BAN IS 100% CONSTITUTIONAL.

Read the actual statute and make up your own mind if what Trump did was illegal.

8 U.S. Code § 1182 - Inadmissible aliens

(f) Suspension of entry or imposition of restrictions by President


Whenever the President finds that the entry of any aliens or of any class of aliens into the United States would be detrimental to the interests of the United States, he may by proclamation, and for such period as he shall deem necessary, suspend the entry of all aliens or any class of aliens as immigrants or nonimmigrants, or impose on the entry of aliens any restrictions he may deem to be appropriate. Whenever the Attorney General finds that a commercial airline has failed to comply with regulations of the Attorney General relating to requirements of airlines for the detection of fraudulent documents used by passengers traveling to the United States (including the training of personnel in such detection), the Attorney General may suspend the entry of some or all aliens transported to the United States by such airline.
.
.
.
.

He proclaimed by Executive order that for periods ranging from 60 to 120 days that ALL PERSONS from 7 specific nations are under a travel ban.

Here is the actual EO:

EXECUTIVE ORDER: PROTECTING THE NATION FROM FOREIGN TERRORIST ENTRY INTO THE UNITED STATES



The EO dos not violate 8 US 1182 (f).

The lawsuits trying to overturn the ban based on it being "UNCONSTITUTIONAL" are bullshit and bogus.

 

[rightwinger]

The court has a duty to interpret the Constitution

No one is questioning to right of the Executive Branch to set policy on immigration. But that policy must conform with the Constitution

Is Trumps ban too broad?
Is it an unconstitutional ban on a specific religion?
Does it exceed Executive authority?
Is there a specific threat affecting national safety that would justify such a ban?

That is why we have courts

Funny... never questioned such an order before.

Never been such an order

That is why we have courts

 

[rightwinger]

No matter what crying is done by snowflakes, until they get 8 US Code 1182 section (f) changed, TRUMP'S TRAVEL BAN IS 100% CONSTITUTIONAL.

Read the actual statute and make up your own mind if what Trump did was illegal.

8 U.S. Code § 1182 - Inadmissible aliens

(f) Suspension of entry or imposition of restrictions by President


Whenever the President finds that the entry of any aliens or of any class of aliens into the United States would be detrimental to the interests of the United States, he may by proclamation, and for such period as he shall deem necessary, suspend the entry of all aliens or any class of aliens as immigrants or nonimmigrants, or impose on the entry of aliens any restrictions he may deem to be appropriate. Whenever the Attorney General finds that a commercial airline has failed to comply with regulations of the Attorney General relating to requirements of airlines for the detection of fraudulent documents used by passengers traveling to the United States (including the training of personnel in such detection), the Attorney General may suspend the entry of some or all aliens transported to the United States by such airline.
.
.
.
.

He proclaimed by Executive order that for periods ranging from 60 to 120 days that ALL PERSONS from 7 specific nations are under a travel ban.

Here is the actual EO:

EXECUTIVE ORDER: PROTECTING THE NATION FROM FOREIGN TERRORIST ENTRY INTO THE UNITED STATES



The EO dos not violate 8 US 1182 (f).

The lawsuits trying to overturn the ban based on it being "UNCONSTITUTIONAL" are bullshit and bogus.

It is for the courts to determine what is constitutional

Not anonymous message board posters

 

[nat4900]

Prediction: They will vote against Trump and eventually be overturned.

By whom???? The SCOTUS is evenly split....Try the Vatican next....

 

[Hossfly]

Prediction: They will vote against Trump and eventually be overturned.

By whom???? The SCOTUS is evenly split....Try the Vatican next....

Nat, do you know what the procedure is when SCOTUS vote is 4-4? I do. You have to google it though 'cause you wouldn't believe me..

 

[Damaged Eagle]

The court has a duty to interpret the Constitution

No one is questioning to right of the Executive Branch to set policy on immigration. But that policy must conform with the Constitution

Is Trumps ban too broad?
Is it an unconstitutional ban on a specific religion?
Does it exceed Executive authority?
Is there a specific threat affecting national safety that would justify such a ban?

That is why we have courts

Are the refugees willing to swear allegiance to the United States Of America and to protect the principles it stands for above all others?

Even the illegal immigrants we have are not willing to do that so I would say that the refugees are not willing to either. In which case they represent an invasion and a threat. They are free to stay where they are at, or return to their point of origin, instead of demanding that we as a society accommodate them. They are the guests and if they do not like the rules they should leave or not come at all.

*****SMILE*****

 

[Dragonlady]

Political Chic once again, makes her case with verifiable facts, and then hammers the point home. ......

In other words, she's full of shit - again.

Let's just wait and see whether the 9th circuit court agrees with her. I somehow doubt they're calling her for advice on the Constitution, since she reveals her ignorance in every post.

 

[Hossfly]

No matter what crying is done by snowflakes, until they get 8 US Code 1182 section (f) changed, TRUMP'S TRAVEL BAN IS 100% CONSTITUTIONAL.

Read the actual statute and make up your own mind if what Trump did was illegal.

8 U.S. Code § 1182 - Inadmissible aliens

(f) Suspension of entry or imposition of restrictions by President


Whenever the President finds that the entry of any aliens or of any class of aliens into the United States would be detrimental to the interests of the United States, he may by proclamation, and for such period as he shall deem necessary, suspend the entry of all aliens or any class of aliens as immigrants or nonimmigrants, or impose on the entry of aliens any restrictions he may deem to be appropriate. Whenever the Attorney General finds that a commercial airline has failed to comply with regulations of the Attorney General relating to requirements of airlines for the detection of fraudulent documents used by passengers traveling to the United States (including the training of personnel in such detection), the Attorney General may suspend the entry of some or all aliens transported to the United States by such airline.
.
.
.
.

He proclaimed by Executive order that for periods ranging from 60 to 120 days that ALL PERSONS from 7 specific nations are under a travel ban.

Here is the actual EO:

EXECUTIVE ORDER: PROTECTING THE NATION FROM FOREIGN TERRORIST ENTRY INTO THE UNITED STATES



The EO dos not violate 8 US 1182 (f).

The lawsuits trying to overturn the ban based on it being "UNCONSTITUTIONAL" are bullshit and bogus.

It is for the courts to determine what is constitutional

Not anonymous message board posters

Jeezus! The law is carved in stone.

8 U.S. Code § 1182 - Inadmissible aliens | US Law | LII / Legal Information Institute

 

[nat4900]

Nat, do you know what the procedure is when SCOTUS vote is 4-4? I do. You have to google it though 'cause you wouldn't believe me..

Oh, I remember well the per curiam decision in Bush v. Gore....Dream on...

 

[Care4all]

There are some things that could be constitutional in Trump's E/O and some that are allegedly not....T's made some changes to it already...

the only thing being decided by this group is whether the stay, stays until this makes it through the courts is what I believe I heard? both sides have committed to an appeal if it doesn;t go their way...

 

[OKTexas]

Trump has both Constitutional and explicit Statutory authority on his side. Any judge that rules otherwise should be impeached.

 

[OKTexas]

The court has a duty to interpret the Constitution

No one is questioning to right of the Executive Branch to set policy on immigration. But that policy must conform with the Constitution

Is Trumps ban too broad?
Is it an unconstitutional ban on a specific religion?
Does it exceed Executive authority?
Is there a specific threat affecting national safety that would justify such a ban?

That is why we have courts

It is specific, it's not based on religion, it's a temporary moratorium, and the court doesn't have the authority to question his judgment under the statute. Trump has intel the court will never see.

 

[OKTexas]

Prediction: They will vote against Trump and eventually be overturned.

By whom???? The SCOTUS is evenly split....Try the Vatican next....

No one knows how the supremes will rule, remember your dear leader lost some 9-0 decisions.