911 terrorists to be tried in NYC

[PatekPhilippe]

Most don't support it on the basis it "saves lives." They support it because they want to inflict as much pain as possible on the boogedyman. They say it saves lives to appear morally correct because they don't have the stones to be forthright.

Who said anything about torture? The interrogation methods used on the terrorists were all LEGAL and NO LAW had to be created to make them otherwise.

Do you know about the letters that were written to make the techniques legal? Do you know which ones were left and which were retracted? We also know the CIA admitted to waterboarding suspects....that is torture. We also know Bush's top Gitmo appointee already admitted we tortured. Do you not know this as well?

Cite the law in U.S. Code that was violated...SPECIFICALLY!!!!

and in case you are not up on basic Civics...one cannot write a letter to make something that's ILLEGAL, LEGAL. If that was the case I would just write a letter and say I'm allowed to empty the cash vault in JPMorgan Chase's head office.

 

[CurveLight]

Wrong!!!

Information gained is checked and cross-checked. When false info is given it was back to the water board for the perp.

and there is no danger that these waterboarded,,tortured confessions may prove to be inaccurate but politically convenient and you are going to give your blind trust to the government this is not something they would ever misuse ??..or you just don't care as long as it is happening to Muslims

Nope!!!! It's all checked and rechecked....and obviously you, sitting in your momma's basement all day eating Doritos and drinking Coke dreaming up conspiracy theories, haven't a clue as to how an interrogation session proceeds and what sort of questions are asked.

You ignored the link I provided showing the CIA Intel expert crushing your claim.

As for letters....here's another link to ignore showing how Signing Statements can be used to ignore the law.
List of Presidential Signing Statements Issued by George W. Bush

 

[PatekPhilippe]

and there is no danger that these waterboarded,,tortured confessions may prove to be inaccurate but politically convenient and you are going to give your blind trust to the government this is not something they would ever misuse ??..or you just don't care as long as it is happening to Muslims

Nope!!!! It's all checked and rechecked....and obviously you, sitting in your momma's basement all day eating Doritos and drinking Coke dreaming up conspiracy theories, haven't a clue as to how an interrogation session proceeds and what sort of questions are asked.

You ignored the link I provided showing the CIA Intel expert crushing your claim.

As for letters....here's another link to ignore showing how Signing Statements can be used to ignore the law.
List of Presidential Signing Statements Issued by George W. Bush

Like I said...cite the SPECIFIC LAW and the signing statement or

 

[PatekPhilippe]

it does not matter if you write a law that's says torture is legal or create a definition of so torture is not torture and the information gained by such methods has proven to be tainted and for the most part useless...anyone that supports it is a fool

Wrong!!!

Information gained is checked and cross-checked. When false info is given it was back to the water board for the perp.

I was going to point out the circular logic myself but figured it would be better coming from a career CIA intelligence analyst.


"All the claims by the Bush administration of preventing additional terror attacks on the United States because of information gained by torture are unsubstantiated because of the methods used that can mostly gain false information and falsely "confirm" the same information.
"
Torture yields unreliable information - St. Petersburg Times

and your link????? An opinion piece.....perhaps you are stupid enough to take it as fact but thinking Americans like the rest of the 299,999,999 of us know better.

 

[CurveLight]

Wrong!!!

Information gained is checked and cross-checked. When false info is given it was back to the water board for the perp.

I was going to point out the circular logic myself but figured it would be better coming from a career CIA intelligence analyst.


"All the claims by the Bush administration of preventing additional terror attacks on the United States because of information gained by torture are unsubstantiated because of the methods used that can mostly gain false information and falsely "confirm" the same information.
"
Torture yields unreliable information - St. Petersburg Times

and your link????? An opinion piece.....perhaps you are stupid enough to take it as fact but thinking Americans like the rest of the 299,999,999 of us know better.

Yes it is an opinion. All views on the issue of torture are opinions einstein. This guy being a 20 year CIA Intel expert has actual authority to speak on the subject. What the **** do you have? An agenda where you throw out claims you cannot support.

 

[PatekPhilippe]

i was going to point out the circular logic myself but figured it would be better coming from a career cia intelligence analyst.


"all the claims by the bush administration of preventing additional terror attacks on the united states because of information gained by torture are unsubstantiated because of the methods used that can mostly gain false information and falsely "confirm" the same information.
"
torture yields unreliable information - st. Petersburg times

and your link????? An opinion piece.....perhaps you are stupid enough to take it as fact but thinking americans like the rest of the 299,999,999 of us know better.

yes it is an opinion. All views on the issue of torture are opinions einstein. This guy being a 20 year cia intel expert has actual authority to speak on the subject. What the **** do you have? An agenda where you throw out claims you cannot support.

(((yawn)))

 

[CurveLight]

Nope!!!! It's all checked and rechecked....and obviously you, sitting in your momma's basement all day eating Doritos and drinking Coke dreaming up conspiracy theories, haven't a clue as to how an interrogation session proceeds and what sort of questions are asked.

You ignored the link I provided showing the CIA Intel expert crushing your claim.

As for letters....here's another link to ignore showing how Signing Statements can be used to ignore the law.
List of Presidential Signing Statements Issued by George W. Bush

Like I said...cite the SPECIFIC LAW and the signing statement or

Well it's a waste of time but it's necessary so here is the evidence Bush's own appointee admitted we are guilty of torture:

"We tortured [Mohammed] al-Qahtan," Crawford told the Washington Post, in her first interview since being named convening authority of military commissions by Defense Secretary Robert M. Gates in February 2007. "His treatment met the legal definition of torture. And that's why I did not refer the case" for prosecution."
Bush Official Admits to Torture at Gitmo | NBC Chicago

Now let's see the predictable yet embarrassing dance.....

 

[CurveLight]

and your link????? An opinion piece.....perhaps you are stupid enough to take it as fact but thinking americans like the rest of the 299,999,999 of us know better.

yes it is an opinion. All views on the issue of torture are opinions einstein. This guy being a 20 year cia intel expert has actual authority to speak on the subject. What the **** do you have? An agenda where you throw out claims you cannot support.

(((yawn)))

This is why assholes like you should be honest and just say "I am not here for discussion." Thanks!

 

[PatekPhilippe]

you ignored the link i provided showing the cia intel expert crushing your claim.

As for letters....here's another link to ignore showing how signing statements can be used to ignore the law.
list of presidential signing statements issued by george w. Bush

like i said...cite the specific law and the signing statement or

well it's a waste of time but it's necessary so here is the evidence bush's own appointee admitted we are guilty of torture:

"we tortured [mohammed] al-qahtan," crawford told the washington post, in her first interview since being named convening authority of military commissions by defense secretary robert m. Gates in february 2007. "his treatment met the legal definition of torture. And that's why i did not refer the case" for prosecution."
bush official admits to torture at gitmo | nbc chicago

now let's see the predictable yet embarrassing dance.....

(((yawn)))

 

[PatekPhilippe]

yes it is an opinion. All views on the issue of torture are opinions einstein. This guy being a 20 year cia intel expert has actual authority to speak on the subject. What the **** do you have? An agenda where you throw out claims you cannot support.

(((yawn)))

This is why assholes like you should be honest and just say "I am not here for discussion." Thanks!

pppppffffffaaaaaaaarrrrrrrrrrttttttttttttt!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[CurveLight]

like i said...cite the specific law and the signing statement or

well it's a waste of time but it's necessary so here is the evidence bush's own appointee admitted we are guilty of torture:

"we tortured [mohammed] al-qahtan," crawford told the washington post, in her first interview since being named convening authority of military commissions by defense secretary robert m. Gates in february 2007. "his treatment met the legal definition of torture. And that's why i did not refer the case" for prosecution."
bush official admits to torture at gitmo | nbc chicago

now let's see the predictable yet embarrassing dance.....

(((yawn)))

This is a great bookmark for the next time you demand evidence. Everyone will see you are full of shit. See ya.

 

[LibocalypseNow]

In the end,many will benefit from this Dog & Pony Show but it wont be the 911 Victims and their families. The Leftist Loons and the Terrorists will turn this into a "Torture" and "Bush is Evil" farce. The 911 Victims and their families will not receive real justice. This will end up being a monumental propaganda coup for the Leftist Loons and Terrorists. This should have been done by the Military. How sad.

 

[CurveLight]

In the end,many will benefit from this Dog & Pony Show but it wont be the 911 Victims and their families. The Leftist Loons and the Terrorists will turn this into a "Torture" and "Bush is Evil" farce. The 911 Victims and their families will not receive real justice. This will end up being a monumental propaganda coup for the Leftist Loons and Terrorists. This should have been done by the Military. How sad.

Another useless and ignorant partisan rant. Do you post these on commission?

 

[LibocalypseNow]

This sad Dog & Pony Show will be the most wonderful propaganda gift ever received by Brutal Terrorists and Leftist Loons everywhere. Just a gigantic World Stage for their "Torture" and "Bush is Evil" propaganda. This really will be a Win/Win for all brutal Terrorists and Leftist Loons. Unfortunately it will most likely be a Lose/Lose for all 911 Victims and their families. This is a very bad decision.

 

[CurveLight]

This sad Dog & Pony Show will be the most wonderful propaganda gift ever received by Brutal Terrorists and Leftist Loons everywhere. Just a gigantic World Stage for their "Torture" and "Bush is Evil" propaganda. This really will be a Win/Win for all brutal Terrorists and Leftist Loons. Unfortunately it will most likely be a Lose/Lose for all 911 Victims and their families. This is a very bad decision.

You probably claim all Troofers are lefty loons too. How backwards is that? You consider people who demand accountability from its government as liberals.......true liberals like yourself don't question the government when your boy is in the big chair.

 

[LibocalypseNow]

The Military could have and should have handled this. Just a big Win/Win for brutal Terrorists and Leftist Loons everywhere. It really is just very sad in the end.

 

[CurveLight]

The Military could have and should have handled this. Just a big Win/Win for brutal Terrorists and Leftist Loons everywhere. It really is just very sad in the end.

Of course. Let's just nuke the entire world.

 

[bodecea]

I applaud this victory for the Bill of Rights.

 

[Andrew2382]

Yes, now the same constitution these terrorist ***** are intent on destroying will now grant them protection

 

[concept]

I applaud this victory for the Bill of Rights.