911 terrorists to be tried in NYC

[eots]

Yes, now the same constitution these terrorist ***** are intent on destroying will now grant them protection

well if we do not then they win

 

[bodecea]

Yes, now the same constitution these terrorist ***** are intent on destroying will now grant them protection

Which is the same way we treat all criminals who are intent on destroying the rights of Americans. Very little difference here except that the Righties are pissing their pants over this in fear.

 

[SFC Ollie]

Yes, now the same constitution these terrorist ***** are intent on destroying will now grant them protection

Which is the same way we treat all criminals who are intent on destroying the rights of Americans. Very little difference here except that the Righties are pissing their pants over this in fear.

These are not your run of the mill criminals, they truly want to see you die. There is no fear to it. They want to kill us and they have been captured and were being tried by a Military tribunal which was set up with the Approval of our Supreme Court. Mr Obama wants to give them a chance to play center stage at his dog and pony show instead.

Obama, dangerous for America.

 

[saveliberty]

Maybe a bit too pragmatic, but at least they are finally being tried. I think it is always truly American to see people given due process. I have some reservations about these terror suspects using our system, but I think it will turn out just fine.

A note to media: Please don't make a big deal about the trials. It just gives the terrorists a platform to continue their mission.

 

[Andrew2382]

well it will take 4-5 years to convict these guys...it will be a media circus and when they get put to death and they will be casted as Martyrs...

great job Mr. president

you incompetent ******* buffoon

 

[Modbert]

well it will take 4-5 years to convict these guys...it will be a media circus and when they get put to death and they will be casted as Martyrs...

great job Mr. president

you incompetent ******* buffoon

Except either way they are killed, they will be cast as Martyrs. You have no idea whether it will be a media circus because cameras may not be allowed. Nor do you know how long the trial will take.

All you're doing right now Andrew is assuming the worst in every possible way.

 

[Andrew2382]

your right...I can only go by how well the Zacarias Moussaoui trial went.

4 years, he went up there and said every possible negative thing about our country so it can find its way back to the Middle East and used as a recruiting tool

No doubt these soon to be trials will do the same

 

[jillian]

Yes, now the same constitution these terrorist ***** are intent on destroying will now grant them protection

... which speaks very well of us.

Would you have us sink to their depths?

*edit*

and I don't think he will be put to death.... so that he ISN'T made a martyr. I think he will languish in prison forever...

 

[Andrew2382]

no, i would expect them to be treated as people who committed an act of war against the United States of America which is precisely what they did

 

[WillowTree]

no, i would expect them to be treated as people who committed an act of war against the United States of America which is precisely what they did

you should know by now the people of the United States of America don't matter. What they want doesn't matter.

 

[SFC Ollie]

Yes, now the same constitution these terrorist ***** are intent on destroying will now grant them protection

... which speaks very well of us.

Would you have us sink to their depths?

I would have continued with the Military tribunals which were set up by the Congress, President, and Supreme court. At less cost and no showmanship. In case you didn't know they had already started and Obama stopped them.

 

[eots]

no, i would expect them to be treated as people who committed an act of war against the United States of America which is precisely what they did

so did timmy commit an act of war...which state should we invade ?

 

[jillian]

no, i would expect them to be treated as people who committed an act of war against the United States of America which is precisely what they did

can an act of war be committed by a group not a country? (I don't know the answer to that, btw).

I do know they should be tried here for acts they committed here.

You can't on one hand say they aren't protected by the Geneva conventions because they *aren't* military;

and yet on the other hand claim they shouldn't have a trial in a civilian court.

they committed terrorist acts. they should be tried as terrorists -- same as the blind sheikh, same as the FALN, same as the IRA and same as Timothy McVeigh.

 

[jillian]

Yes, now the same constitution these terrorist ***** are intent on destroying will now grant them protection

... which speaks very well of us.

Would you have us sink to their depths?

I would have continued with the Military tribunals which were set up by the Congress, President, and Supreme court. At less cost and no showmanship. In case you didn't know they had already started and Obama stopped them.

In case you didn't know, they started AFTER Obama said they were going to get criminal trials in civilan courts.

 

[Andrew2382]

maybe we should just send out some subpoena for the rest of the wanted terrorists and hope they show up to their court date.

You can't treat Terrorists as criminals because then you are just being reactive instead proactive. Treating them as criminals implies you are going to wait for one to break the law then take them down.

Have we not learned after 9/11 that we can't be like that anymore? Times change and the way we prosecute people changes with the circumstances of the world we live in.

These Terrorists are at war with us yet according to the Left we aren't at war with them.

 

[FactFinder]

If they want to confer my rights as an American citizen onto terrorists, then those rights have become meaningless.

Bush is partly to blame for this. He violated the principle of swift justice by holding these individuals for years. Now we get to watch the perversion of our rights for a political show that will escape the insensibilites of those with evil intent.

 

[jillian]

maybe we should just send out some subpoena for the rest of the wanted terrorists and hope they show up to their court date.

You can't treat Terrorists as criminals because then you are just being reactive instead proactive. Treating them as criminals implies you are going to wait for one to break the law then take them down.

Have we not learned after 9/11 that we can't be like that anymore? Times change and the way we prosecute people changes with the circumstances of the world we live in.

These Terrorists are at war with us yet according to the Left we aren't at war with them.

how do they differ from the Timothy McVeigh's?

what I learned from 9/11 is that you can't attack a country that had nothing to do with attacking you or you screw up everything...

and that intel agencies need to communicate with each other...

and that presidents need to listen to their PDB's and accept briefings from the admins that come before them.

what I also learned is that when people are stupid and fearful they arrest people and refuse to give them trials and;eave them in prisons with no charges brought against them... until other people stop the stupid and fearful ...

 

[WillowTree]

If they want to confer my rights as an American citizen onto terrorists, then those rights have become meaningless.

Bush is partly to blame for this. He violated the principle of swift justice by holding these individuals for years. Now we get to watch the perversion of our rights for a political show that will escape the insensibilites of those with evil intent.

not true,, it was all stopped time and time again by the aclu..

 

[eots]

maybe we should just send out some subpoena for the rest of the wanted terrorists and hope they show up to their court date.

You can't treat Terrorists as criminals because then you are just being reactive instead proactive. Treating them as criminals implies you are going to wait for one to break the law then take them down.

Have we not learned after 9/11 that we can't be like that anymore? Times change and the way we prosecute people changes with the circumstances of the world we live in.

These Terrorists are at war with us yet according to the Left we aren't at war with them.

no... that is what idiots learned ...smart people learned to respond to reports from citizens of pilots taking flying lessons that don't want to learn to land and and the cries of FBI agents like john O'Neil or to at least read the ******* memo on your desk saying BIN LADEN DETERMINED TO ATTACK,,,before going on vacation

 

[Andrew2382]

lol...you do know that clinton had a chance to take Bin Laden out right?

Clinton saw the attack on the WTC in 93 as a criminal matter not a terror strike. He chose to treat the Trade Center attack as an isolated criminal act, devoid of serious foriegn policy or military implications. Over the following month he made bad decisions over and over again.

First he left the case in the hands of the FBI which was headed by a man he disliked and did not trust and was going to fire. He treated the bombing as a law enforcement matter and not a counter intelligence inviestiation, thus cutting the CIA out of the fight against terrorism, and Clinton didn't even meet with his handpicked CIA director to consider alternative approaches to fighting internation terrorism. This all ensured Bin laden to prosper


Clinton literally had Osama in his sights

Twice in 2000, including one time after the USS Cole bombing, Clinton had bin Laden in his sights and failed to pull the trigger, according to a senior Pentagon official familiar with covert counterterrorism operations in Afghanistan at the time.

He said the CIA had equipped pro-U.S. factions on the ground in Afghanistan with high-tech surveillance gear from the Defense Department to track bin Laden.

They were armed with sniper rifles and shoulder-fired rocket launchers, the official explained, and had the OK to assassinate bin Laden on orders from U.S. intelligence back in Washington.

"There were surveillance systems brought in-country, and they were doing observations and watching some of the likely places bin Laden frequented, such as Tora Bora, and guest-houses in the area," said the official, who requested anonymity. "And we were viewing" the satellite images relayed from Afghanistan.

"Some of it was collaborative – some DOD, some CIA – but we were looking," he said. "And Clinton had opportunities to take him out and didn't take them."

"One was more a command-and-control issue – when they should have made a decision to shoot, but it never got out of country, because the bureaucracy of carrying [the order] back [to Afghanistan] through channels was too much, and the opportunity just disappeared," he said. "And then another one when Clinton said 'No.'"

The Pentagon official explained that Clinton feared the paid CIA recruits might hit innocent Afghans.

"There was actionable intelligence provided by that gear, by the optics," he said. "But once it went up the chain of command, it got into stuff like, 'How sure are you guys about that 6-5 guy in the middle of that group? It kind of looks like him, but how sure are you?'"

"Clinton didn't want to have an accidental shot kill innocent civilians," he added. "But everyone was pretty certain it was Osama bin Laden. We had images of his face."


but hey it's fun to put the blame just on one person.