800 babies buried in septic tank at Irish home for unmarried mothers

[Mojo2]

800 babies buried in septic tank at Irish home for unmarried mothers

800 babies buried in septic tank at Irish home for unmarried mothers

I haven't gotten the mental desire to wade through this story yet, but here it is.

 

[Manchester]

Somehow think the Catholic church isn't going to get the same sort of condemnation of this as if this were an Islamic country.

Pretty grim though isn't it, as late as 1961 this sort of thing was still happening. Doesn't make for fun reading, I don't blame the OP for not wanting to.

 

[shart_attack]

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[Chuckt]

What is their teaching on faith and morals again?

 

[I.P.Freely]

800 babies buried in septic tank at Irish home for unmarried mothers

800 babies buried in septic tank at Irish home for unmarried mothers

I haven't gotten the mental desire to wade through this story yet, but here it is.

they were the lucky ones.
'I can still hear the kids' screams'

 

[FJO]

How does that number compared to the number of babies dispatched and dumped in the garbage by loving non-Catholic "doctors" George Tiller and Kermit Gosnell?

 

[JimBowie1958]

One of the many problems with the Roman Catholic church for converts like me is that they tolerate way too many unbelieving secularists in their clergy and membership and ignore their sin. That Ted Kennedy was given such a glorious funeral presided over by the bishop of Boston is proof of the moral incompetence of the Roman Catholic church in Boston.

Ted Kennedy's Catholic Funeral: Two Views From the Hierarchy

Cardinal Seán's Blog » Blog Archive » On Senator Kennedy?s Funeral

https://www.catholic.org/news/politics/story.php?id=34367

The Kennedy family is deserving of solace and respect by the bishop of the catholic church only so far as they show support and obedience to it. The funeral was a shameful display of the power of wealth and secular politics trumping religious faith. There will be a great many faithful catholics who die and are buried without the local bishop attending personally, but they make it for this horrid soul? This kind of hypocritical posturing is largely why the RCC is sick in the West.

Guess it also is due in part to the clergy shortage they have, which is largely due to the RCC using psychiatrists for screening potential clergy, not realizing what a leftwing cesspool that industry is.

Well qualified men who want to be priests are often turned down as having sexual issues if they don't masturbate regularly or have had premarital relations or cruise bars when in fact it is testimony to the love of the church these men have and of their faithfulness.

Consequently, in the major urban areas with long established catholic populations the church is having serious issues recruiting priests, nuns and deacons.

But in the areas where Catholicism is taken seriously and the shrinks are kindly excluded from any input as to who can be in clergy the numbers of clergy are booming. And they don't have issues like treating unfaithful powerful people with undue respect, nor do they have problems with hidden scandal, at lest not for long. They expose it and move on.

Hendershott and White: Traditional Catholicism Is Winning - WSJ

Still, the future is encouraging. There were 467 new priestly ordinations in the U.S. last year, according to a survey by the Center for Applied Research in the Apostolate at Georgetown University, up from 442 a decade ago.

While some of the highest numbers of new priests are in the Catholic-majority cities of Newark, N.J., and Philadelphia, ordinations in Washington, D.C. (18 last year) and Chicago (26) also are booming. The biggest gains are not only in traditional Catholic strongholds. In Lincoln, Neb., Catholics constitute only 16% of the population yet have some of the strongest numbers of ordinations. In 2011, there were 10 men ordained as priests in Lincoln.

What explains the trend? Nearly 20 years ago, Archbishop Elden Curtiss, then leader of the Omaha, Neb., diocese, suggested that when dioceses are unambiguous and allow a minimum of dissent about the male, celibate priesthood, more candidates answer the call to the priesthood. Our preliminary research on the correlates of priestly ordinations reveals that the dioceses with the largest numbers of new priests are led by courageous bishops with faithful and inspirational vocations offices.

Leadership and adherence to church doctrine certainly distinguish the bishop of Lincoln, the Most Rev. Fabian Bruskewitz. He made national news in 1996 when he stated that members of dissident Catholic groups including Call to Action and Catholics for Choice had automatically excommunicated themselves from the church.

The largest diocese in the past tended to have clergy that put the finances and social concerns of church members higher in priority than the teachings and morality of the church. The Irish Catholics in my experience are the worst for this. I have met so many Irish Americans that have zero faith in the church and have only been catholic as a statement of their Irishness and opposition to the Anglican church and all WASPery in general.

This is particularly true in Ireland where a great many crimes have been committed and left hidden to 'protect' the church. But this is not protecting the church at all, and all these scandals should be laid bare to the world. It will hurt the church in these areas but it will rebound over time. The church has always survived such scandals, but it cannot survive slow moral rot from within and the Irish Catholic church stinks of gangrenous putrid rot.

Its enemies have been empowered by the churches moral weakness to actually have it banned in some places, which is their primary objective, something unimaginable only twenty years ago by most Irishmen.

Catholic Church Faces Disruption and Banishment as Irish Cardinal set to resign | Welcome to ITCCS.ORG and The International Tribunal into Crimes of Church and State



I believe the Lord will cleanse His church in the West with a firey persecution. It will be all the more intense because Anglo Catholics in the USA are naïve and hypocrital. They hold to the forms of faith and tradition but deny the power of true faith and this will cost them dearly when the time comes, if it comes.

But perhaps it wont. Perhaps scandals like this can purge the church of its rot enough that the Lord wont send fire down from Heaven (that is a metaphor, you stupid libtards).

Till then the rest of us Catholics have to endure the well deserved contempt and dismissal till other crimes by the secularists themselves cause the public to largely forget what the unbelieving pretenders have done to the church first from the INSIDE.

 

[longknife]

When I first read this, beside feeling very sad that all those bodies were thrown away like that, was the certain knowledge that Catholic haters would come out of the woodwork to blase ALL Catholics for this.

This should not be tolerated in the faith of any religion.

But, let's be honest - how many female new-borns are allowed to die because they are simply unwanted in many 3rd world societies?

 

[I.P.Freely]

How does that number compared to the number of babies dispatched and dumped in the garbage by loving non-Catholic "doctors" George Tiller and Kermit Gosnell?

very simple, Abortion is about a women right to choice, how would you describe the septic tank incident ?

 

[CaféAuLait]

800 babies buried in septic tank at Irish home for unmarried mothers

800 babies buried in septic tank at Irish home for unmarried mothers

I haven't gotten the mental desire to wade through this story yet, but here it is.

The recently discovered death records for St Mary's show the 796 children died from malnutrition and infectious diseases, such as measles and TB.

Ok, the article states they died of natural causes and the area where the septic tank ONCE WAS, was used as a mass grave due to religious reasons.

 

[CaféAuLait]

How does that number compared to the number of babies dispatched and dumped in the garbage by loving non-Catholic "doctors" George Tiller and Kermit Gosnell?

very simple, Abortion is about a women right to choice, how would you describe the septic tank incident ?

This children died of natural causes, what does this have to do with abortion? What does using a mass grave where a septic tank once was have to do with abortion? They used it as a grave due to religious reasons because they felt they could not be buried on "consecrated lands".

 

[I.P.Freely]

When I first read this, beside feeling very sad that all those bodies were thrown away like that, was the certain knowledge that Catholic haters would come out of the woodwork to blase ALL Catholics for this.

This should not be tolerated in the faith of any religion.

But, let's be honest - how many female new-borns are allowed to die because they are simply unwanted in many 3rd world societies?

I'm ecumenical in bashing religion.
This is a link showing Jimmy Savile the UK's biggest serial paedophile meeting the pope.
Jimmy Savile: Papal Knighthood could be posthumously removed by the Vatican over child abuse scandal - Mirror Online

 

[I.P.Freely]

How does that number compared to the number of babies dispatched and dumped in the garbage by loving non-Catholic "doctors" George Tiller and Kermit Gosnell?

very simple, Abortion is about a women right to choice, how would you describe the septic tank incident ?

This children died of natural causes, what does this have to do with abortion? What does using a mass grave where a septic tank once was have to do with abortion? They used it as a grave due to religious reasons because they felt they could not be buried on "consecrated lands".

The children died of natural causes .........proof please
Tell us the truth about the children dumped in Galway's mass graves | Emer O'Toole | Comment is free | theguardian.com

 

[CaféAuLait]

very simple, Abortion is about a women right to choice, how would you describe the septic tank incident ?

This children died of natural causes, what does this have to do with abortion? What does using a mass grave where a septic tank once was have to do with abortion? They used it as a grave due to religious reasons because they felt they could not be buried on "consecrated lands".

The children died of natural causes .........proof please
Tell us the truth about the children dumped in Galway's mass graves | Emer O'Toole | Comment is free | theguardian.com

Its in the OP article. Did you not bother to read it? I quoted it two posts above.


800 babies buried in septic tank at Irish home for unmarried mothers

 

[CaféAuLait]

The recently discovered death records for St Mary's show the 796 children died from malnutrition and infectious diseases, such as measles and TB.

OP link AGAIN


800 babies buried in septic tank at Irish home for unmarried mothers



There were not just babies they were children up to 12 years old. Are you suggesting the Catholic Church murdered them and their mothers never said a word?


Not to mention the article goes onto say the bones which had been found had once been believed to be from the Irish potato famine. I was unaware aborted fetus's teeny tiny little bones (?) could be mistaken for potato famine victims, let alone even be visible to those wondering where they came from .

 

[I.P.Freely]

This children died of natural causes, what does this have to do with abortion? What does using a mass grave where a septic tank once was have to do with abortion? They used it as a grave due to religious reasons because they felt they could not be buried on "consecrated lands".

The children died of natural causes .........proof please
Tell us the truth about the children dumped in Galway's mass graves | Emer O'Toole | Comment is free | theguardian.com

Its in the OP article. Did you not bother to read it? I quoted it two posts above.


800 babies buried in septic tank at Irish home for unmarried mothers

malnutrition is a natural cause of death in a childrens home run by one of the richest churches in the world.
Child Abuse Scandal: How the Irish Government protected the Catholic Church

 

[CaféAuLait]

The children died of natural causes .........proof please
Tell us the truth about the children dumped in Galway's mass graves | Emer O'Toole | Comment is free | theguardian.com

Its in the OP article. Did you not bother to read it? I quoted it two posts above.


800 babies buried in septic tank at Irish home for unmarried mothers

malnutrition is a natural cause of death in a childrens home run by one of the richest churches in the world.
Child Abuse Scandal: How the Irish Government protected the Catholic Church

Malnutrition caused by what? Do you know. Did the children arrive disease ridden? Firstly you were alleging these were abortions, now you are stating they church starved the kids on purpose when it was shown they were not abortions. So which is it?

 

[I.P.Freely]

even the ex hitler youth pope apologised
BBC News - Pope Benedict apologises for Irish priests' sex abuse

 

[I.P.Freely]

Its in the OP article. Did you not bother to read it? I quoted it two posts above.


800 babies buried in septic tank at Irish home for unmarried mothers

malnutrition is a natural cause of death in a childrens home run by one of the richest churches in the world.
Child Abuse Scandal: How the Irish Government protected the Catholic Church

Malnutrition caused by what? Do you know. Did the children arrive disease ridden? Firstly you were alleging these were abortions, now you are stating they church starved the kids on purpose when it was shown they were not abortions. So which is it?

wriggle wriggle, where did I allege these were abortions?
You are just spewing the buggers mantra of denial that the catholic church used to get away with.
Another country same period, boy they new how to starve the innocent.
The Vatican Role in the Ustasha Genocide in the Independent State of Croatia | Serbianna Analysis

 

[I.P.Freely]

Check out how children were treated for bed-wetting, Check out how their legs burned by red hot pokers,toe nails pulled out with pliers.
Check out what they were fed.
Do not open this link if you have a weak stomach.
Nuns 'abused hundreds of children' - News - The Independent