8 Cases Where Mishandling of Classified Information Went Unpunished

[Smokin' OP]

In cult settings, critical thinking is often frowned upon, while absolute faith is rewarded. Guilt, shame and fear are also constantly wielded to slowly strip away an individual's identity. Free thinking, free will and free speech are limited in an environment where full obedience to leaders is required.Aug 16, 2022

The Psychology Behind Cults | Discover Magazine​

The indoctrination process can be key to a cult’s success, and leave a powerful impression on its victims. While each cult may be different, experts say that the methods to pull members in and keep them there resemble a similar playbook of psychological principles.

One element is cognitive dissonance. The theory introduced in the late 1950s suggests that when people are confronted with facts that contradict their beliefs, values and ideas, they will feel psychological discomfort, likely followed by the need to resolve that contradiction and reduce their uneasiness. In a cult setting, the cognitive dissonance often “keeps you trapped as each compromise makes it more painful to admit you’ve been deceived,”

It uses both formal and informal systems of influence and control to keep members obedient with little tolerance for internal disagreement or external scrutiny.”

This obedience factor is another key element. It plays off of a human’s natural inclination to follow orders and do what others around them are doing.

 

[Mac1958]

The indictment isn't fake news.
Nor is it a factual document.

It is an accusation that the government MUST PROVE TO BE TRUE in order for it to mean what YOU THINK it means.

From my point of view it is a political noose ment to not only stop Trump but to send a message to future "Trumps"

Do I believe Trump mishandled classified information? Yup he did. JUST LIKE EVERYONE BEFORE AND AFTER HIM.

Would you punish one of your children for using vulgarity while allowing the others to get away with it?
We are in dangerous territory with this gotcha game.

Yes, Trump is 100% innocent until proven guilty. And they have to PROVE it, just like any other case. Period.

IF it turns out that the indictment is correct -- and all those recordings and emails and photos and sworn testimonies, all provided by Trump's own people, are not fantasy, and he is found guilty -- should Trump be appropriately punished?

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

Yes, Trump is 100% innocent until proven guilty. And they have to PROVE it, just like any other case. Period.

IF it turns out that the indictment is correct -- and all those recordings and emails and photos and sworn testimonies, all provided by Trump's own people, are not fantasy, and he is found guilty -- should Trump be appropriately punished?

Depends on what is deemed appropriate and if this NEW STANDARD is going to be held for ALL.

Facing life in prison is BEYOND ASININE

 

[Mac1958]

Depends on what is deemed appropriate and if this NEW STANDARD is going to be held for ALL.

Facing life in prison is BEYOND ASININE

That should have been a pretty easy "yes". Okay.

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

That should have been a pretty easy "yes". Okay.

That's because YOU believe one thing and I don't.
In the old days we called that sharing different opinions.
Today democrats call it HATE SPEECH

 

[Mac1958]

That's because YOU believe one thing and I don't.
In the old days we called that sharing different opinions.
Today democrats call it HATE SPEECH

Well, find a Democrat, and/or find a person who uses that pointless term, and take it up with them.

Meanwhile, I think people should be held accountable for their actions, even if you want to obfuscate.

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

Well, find a Democrat, and/or find a person who uses that pointless term, and take it up with them.

Meanwhile, I think people should be held accountable for their actions, even if you want to obfuscate.

No obfuscation just MY OPINION.

As per usual the left simply can't process anyone not thinking like them.

 

[Mac1958]

As per usual the left

You know better, Gramps.

Where does Mac1958 actually stand on the issues?

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

You know better, Gramps.

Where does Mac1958 actually stand on the issues?

As per usual Mac thinks every post is about him personally

 

[Care4all]

Clinton preyed on an intern in the workplace, cheated on his wife, lied to the American people and disgraced the office.

And that has what to do with the tea in China??

Totally off topic and meant to hijack this thread!

 

[Care4all]

Wrong.
You seem to forget that Hillary, Joe Biden, and Mike Pence were not presidents when they illegally stole classified documents and hid them for years.
They had no security clearance and were not even supposed to have any classified docs at all.
Their crimes are about a gazillion times worse than Trump, who was legally authorized to have all the classified docs he wanted.

Hillary, biden, pence ALL had classified clearance in their positions along with Trump as president.

Trump lost his classified clearance once we elected a new President and he left office. When asked, President Biden denied him special classified clearance to continue after he left office and chose not to give trump a courtesy classified clearance due to his 1/6 actions.

 

[Mac1958]

As per usual Mac thinks every post is about him personally

Ah. You must have been thinking of someone ELSE when you posted to me.

Weak, Gramps. I still think you're better than this, but it's getting a little doubtful. You've got a least one foot the orange cult.

 

[Captain Caveman]

I think we disagree on which side is to blame for the sorry state of the US.

No harm in disagreeing, everyone has to go with the majority of votes. That's why democracy often elects the wrong candidates/party.

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

Ah. You must have been thinking of someone ELSE when you posted to me.

Weak, Gramps. I still think you're better than this, but it's getting a little doubtful. You've got a least one foot the orange cult.

When I talk about "the left" or "democrats" I'm speaking in generalities. The fact that YOU think it's directed at YOU is not my problem.

 

[alang1216]

No harm in disagreeing, everyone has to go with the majority of votes. That's why democracy often elects the wrong candidates/party.

It is not a faceless 'democracy', it is voters that elect politicians that make promises they can't keep and scare and distract those voters with issues that don't really matter in the long run. We get the government we deserve.

 

[Captain Caveman]

It is not a faceless 'democracy', it is voters that elect politicians that make promises they can't keep and scare and distract those voters with issues that don't really matter in the long run. We get the government we deserve.

I know the majority didn't want Trump again, but fuck me with a stiff stick, Biden. America is going through four years of a geriatric embarrassment. Anyone who voted for Biden and doesn't feel embarrassed, are not true to themselves. At least in the UK, the party can dump and replace their Leader/Prime Minster.

Maybe it's time America elected a party as opposed to a president.

 

[alang1216]

I know the majority didn't want Trump again, but fuck me with a stiff stick, Biden. America is going through four years of a geriatric embarrassment. Anyone who voted for Biden and doesn't feel embarrassed, are not true to themselves. At least in the UK, the party can dump and replace their Leader/Prime Minster.

I voted for Biden and I'm not embarrassed. The choice was Biden or Trump and it was EASY to vote against Trump.

Maybe it's time America elected a party as opposed to a president.

Agreed. I feel Trump voters voted for the man and not his policies. Sure he promised them the moon but if you talk to those voters today they would vote for the man all over again in spite of his lies. Biden does not generate that kind of cultish loyalty so very few people love him, many more, in fact most Americans, support his policies over GOP policies.

 

[Captain Caveman]

I voted for Biden and I'm not embarrassed. The choice was Biden or Trump and it was EASY to vote against Trump.

A shining example of cutting your nose off to spite your face.

 

[surada]

8 Cases Where Mishandling of Classified Information Went Unpunished​

8 Cases Where Mishandling of Classified Information Went Unpunished

Do we really have "one set of laws"? A review of 17 examples of alleged mishandling of classified information suggests a double standard.

www.breitbart.com

24 Jun 2023 ~~ By JOEL B. POLLAK

The core of the accusation against former President Donald Trump is the allegation that he retained and mishandled classified information and national defense secrets. Special Counsel Jack Smith justified this unprecedented prosecution by citing the need to protect classified information and the rule of law. But do we really have “one set of laws in this country”? Here is a list of eight past examples of high-profile individuals who were never prosecuted for the same basic or similar allegations.
Hillary Clinton – Former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton was found to have maintained a private email server during her four-year tenure at the Department of State. The server was located in a bathroom closet in a loft in Denver, Colorado, and included classified information. Worse yet, Clinton used 13 mobile devices to send and receive emails on the server, and five iPads. Some of the mobile devices were destroyed with hammers.
Despite Hillary Clinton’s denials, there were hundreds of emails on her private server that included classified information. As Fox News noted last year (original links):

Intelligence Community Inspector General I. Charles McCullough III laid out the findings of the Clinton documents review by intelligence agencies that identified “several dozen” additional classified emails – including specific intelligence known as “special access programs” (SAP).​

~Snip~
Bill Clinton – In what became known as the “Socks case,” Judicial Watch, a private non-profit organization, sued the government to compel it to provide audio tapes made by the White House when Bill Clinton was president and participating in interviews with a historian. President Clinton allegedly hid the tapes in his sock drawer when he left the White House, the better to claim them as “personal” rather than presidential records.
~Snip~
Joe Biden – President Biden took classified documents from the Sensitive Compartmented Information Facility (SCIF) in the Senate when he left to take up his new post as vice president. Those papers were stored in his archive at the University of Delaware, which sealed public access to his records. More egregiously, he was found to have taken classified documents to his private home in Wilmington, Delaware, where they were stored in his garage, next to his Corvette. His son, Hunter Biden, known to have close contacts with foreign business partners and even Chinese intelligence, stayed at the house during the time the classified documents were kept there, and had access to the garage, and was even seen driving the Corvette.
~Snip~
James Comey – Outgoing FBI director, who had just been fired by President Trump, leaked memoranda of his conversations with the president to the press, via a Columbia University professor — who later became his lawyer — who then leaked them to the media. Comey did so, he later admitted, hoping to trigger the appointment of a special counsel to probe allegations of “Russia collusion” — even though he and the FBI knew that the primary source of the claims, the so-called “Steele dossier,” was a fraud. The Department of Justice investigated the leaks but declined to do anything about it, saying Comey did not intend to leak to the media.
~Snip~
Barack Obama – A president cannot “leak,” by definition, because the president has full authority to classify or declassify information. But the Obama White House leaked sensitive information on a constant basis. In 2012, the New York Times reported that then-President Barack Obama maintained a “kill list” of suspected foreign terrorists who were to be droned. The report made Obama look tough during a close reelection fight; the information was almost certainly leaked by someone in the White House. Yet despite the concern in some quarters, both about the leak and the substance of it, Obama was never held responsible for it.
~Snip~
Mike Pence – Just as Biden was found to have kept classified documents at his personal resident, so, too, former Vice President Pence was found to have government documents at his home, apparently taken as part of his effort to compose his political memoirs in anticipation of his presidential campaign in 2024. Pence returned the documents after they were discovered. Still, like Biden, Pence had no authority to take the documents, even as vice president. The Department of Justice declined to prosecute Pence just before it indicted Trump.
~Snip~
Lyndon Johnson – As conservative radio host Mark Levin has noted, the president most associated with the Vietnam War removed sensitive federal records, sealed them for 50 years, and even destroyed some of them. From the Miller Center at the University of Virginia:
~Snip~
Leon Panetta – Then-CIA Director Panetta allegedly leaked classified information to a filmmaker behind Zero Dark Thirty, a film about the search for Al Qaeda terrorist leader Osama bin Laden that was originally intended for release before the 2012 elections. A draft inspector general’s report suggested that Panetta had revealed the unit involved in the mission, as well as its commander, as screenwriter Mark Boal was present for a CIA event.
~Snip~
The point is not that mishandling of classified information is never punished: it is often punished harshly when the defendants are low-level leakers or inadvertent offenders. But senior officials often escape punishment, or are lightly punished, especially if they are Democrats.
The way that President Donald Trump is being treated is extraordinary and vastly out of proportion to both the alleged offenses and the history of such investigations.


Commentary:
Maoists Leftists are terrified of the thought that a man who cannot be bought, who they can't find any real dirt on, who they cannot control through blackmail or any other means, could be President again.
The possibility that there could be thousands of examples that have been ignored and left unprosecuted, but this corrupt DOJ, FBI, Department of Archives, and administration will use everything at their disposal to attempt to derail Trump or assassinate his character and reputation. There is a “Deep State” of evil within this country. Trump is an existential threat to all of them.
Sessions was compromised and should have appointed a special counsel to investigate either clearing her and other associates also involved in the mishandling of documents or indicting them. That is how the justice system works, or at least is supposed to work.
Hillary destroyed subpoenaed evidence in a federal investigation and there is no denying that she did it.
This alone would land anyone in prison regardless of whether or not there were any other criminal charges in a case.
Yet, Comey told us on national TV there was "NO INTENT"!!!!!! NO REASONABLE PROSCUTOR WOULD PROSCUTE!!!! IF YOU CAN'T BELIEVE HIM....WHO CAN YOU BELIEVE?????

Trump was always screeching about leaks in the White House... and he was the leaker.

Why Republican voters say thereâs âno way in hellâ Trump lost

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www.reuters.com

Mishandling documents was a misdemeanor until Trump made it a felony.

 

[Billiejeens]

I know the majority didn't want Trump again, but fuck me with a stiff stick, Biden. America is going through four years of a geriatric embarrassment. Anyone who voted for Biden and doesn't feel embarrassed, are not true to themselves. At least in the UK, the party can dump and replace their Leader/Prime Minster.

Maybe it's time America elected a party as opposed to a president.

We do vote for a party -
We vote for a team, not an individual.
Nixon had to resign because the Republicans in Congress said that they wouldn't stand behind him, if impeached.

If you believe that the Democrats would ever break ranks in that fashion, you have not been paying attention.