8 Cases Where Mishandling of Classified Information Went Unpunished

[Doc7505]

8 Cases Where Mishandling of Classified Information Went Unpunished​

8 Cases Where Mishandling of Classified Information Went Unpunished

Do we really have "one set of laws"? A review of 17 examples of alleged mishandling of classified information suggests a double standard.

www.breitbart.com

24 Jun 2023 ~~ By JOEL B. POLLAK

The core of the accusation against former President Donald Trump is the allegation that he retained and mishandled classified information and national defense secrets. Special Counsel Jack Smith justified this unprecedented prosecution by citing the need to protect classified information and the rule of law. But do we really have “one set of laws in this country”? Here is a list of eight past examples of high-profile individuals who were never prosecuted for the same basic or similar allegations.
Hillary Clinton – Former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton was found to have maintained a private email server during her four-year tenure at the Department of State. The server was located in a bathroom closet in a loft in Denver, Colorado, and included classified information. Worse yet, Clinton used 13 mobile devices to send and receive emails on the server, and five iPads. Some of the mobile devices were destroyed with hammers.
Despite Hillary Clinton’s denials, there were hundreds of emails on her private server that included classified information. As Fox News noted last year (original links):

Intelligence Community Inspector General I. Charles McCullough III laid out the findings of the Clinton documents review by intelligence agencies that identified “several dozen” additional classified emails – including specific intelligence known as “special access programs” (SAP).​

~Snip~
Bill Clinton – In what became known as the “Socks case,” Judicial Watch, a private non-profit organization, sued the government to compel it to provide audio tapes made by the White House when Bill Clinton was president and participating in interviews with a historian. President Clinton allegedly hid the tapes in his sock drawer when he left the White House, the better to claim them as “personal” rather than presidential records.
~Snip~
Joe Biden – President Biden took classified documents from the Sensitive Compartmented Information Facility (SCIF) in the Senate when he left to take up his new post as vice president. Those papers were stored in his archive at the University of Delaware, which sealed public access to his records. More egregiously, he was found to have taken classified documents to his private home in Wilmington, Delaware, where they were stored in his garage, next to his Corvette. His son, Hunter Biden, known to have close contacts with foreign business partners and even Chinese intelligence, stayed at the house during the time the classified documents were kept there, and had access to the garage, and was even seen driving the Corvette.
~Snip~
James Comey – Outgoing FBI director, who had just been fired by President Trump, leaked memoranda of his conversations with the president to the press, via a Columbia University professor — who later became his lawyer — who then leaked them to the media. Comey did so, he later admitted, hoping to trigger the appointment of a special counsel to probe allegations of “Russia collusion” — even though he and the FBI knew that the primary source of the claims, the so-called “Steele dossier,” was a fraud. The Department of Justice investigated the leaks but declined to do anything about it, saying Comey did not intend to leak to the media.
~Snip~
Barack Obama – A president cannot “leak,” by definition, because the president has full authority to classify or declassify information. But the Obama White House leaked sensitive information on a constant basis. In 2012, the New York Times reported that then-President Barack Obama maintained a “kill list” of suspected foreign terrorists who were to be droned. The report made Obama look tough during a close reelection fight; the information was almost certainly leaked by someone in the White House. Yet despite the concern in some quarters, both about the leak and the substance of it, Obama was never held responsible for it.
~Snip~
Mike Pence – Just as Biden was found to have kept classified documents at his personal resident, so, too, former Vice President Pence was found to have government documents at his home, apparently taken as part of his effort to compose his political memoirs in anticipation of his presidential campaign in 2024. Pence returned the documents after they were discovered. Still, like Biden, Pence had no authority to take the documents, even as vice president. The Department of Justice declined to prosecute Pence just before it indicted Trump.
~Snip~
Lyndon Johnson – As conservative radio host Mark Levin has noted, the president most associated with the Vietnam War removed sensitive federal records, sealed them for 50 years, and even destroyed some of them. From the Miller Center at the University of Virginia:
~Snip~
Leon Panetta – Then-CIA Director Panetta allegedly leaked classified information to a filmmaker behind Zero Dark Thirty, a film about the search for Al Qaeda terrorist leader Osama bin Laden that was originally intended for release before the 2012 elections. A draft inspector general’s report suggested that Panetta had revealed the unit involved in the mission, as well as its commander, as screenwriter Mark Boal was present for a CIA event.
~Snip~
The point is not that mishandling of classified information is never punished: it is often punished harshly when the defendants are low-level leakers or inadvertent offenders. But senior officials often escape punishment, or are lightly punished, especially if they are Democrats.
The way that President Donald Trump is being treated is extraordinary and vastly out of proportion to both the alleged offenses and the history of such investigations.


Commentary:
Maoists Leftists are terrified of the thought that a man who cannot be bought, who they can't find any real dirt on, who they cannot control through blackmail or any other means, could be President again.
The possibility that there could be thousands of examples that have been ignored and left unprosecuted, but this corrupt DOJ, FBI, Department of Archives, and administration will use everything at their disposal to attempt to derail Trump or assassinate his character and reputation. There is a “Deep State” of evil within this country. Trump is an existential threat to all of them.
Sessions was compromised and should have appointed a special counsel to investigate either clearing her and other associates also involved in the mishandling of documents or indicting them. That is how the justice system works, or at least is supposed to work.
Hillary destroyed subpoenaed evidence in a federal investigation and there is no denying that she did it.
This alone would land anyone in prison regardless of whether or not there were any other criminal charges in a case.
Yet, Comey told us on national TV there was "NO INTENT"!!!!!! NO REASONABLE PROSCUTOR WOULD PROSCUTE!!!! IF YOU CAN'T BELIEVE HIM....WHO CAN YOU BELIEVE?????

 

[scruffy]

Leftards are corrupt lying scumbags.

Worthless lying sacks of shit.

 

[Mac1958]

"Mishandled". Holy crap.

These folks just refuse to read the indictment. Or, they have, and they're lying. Or, they have, and they think it's fake news.

That's okay. Jack Smith has the goods, provided by Trump's own people.

 

[Votto]

8 Cases Where Mishandling of Classified Information Went Unpunished​

8 Cases Where Mishandling of Classified Information Went Unpunished

Do we really have "one set of laws"? A review of 17 examples of alleged mishandling of classified information suggests a double standard.

www.breitbart.com

24 Jun 2023 ~~ By JOEL B. POLLAK

The core of the accusation against former President Donald Trump is the allegation that he retained and mishandled classified information and national defense secrets. Special Counsel Jack Smith justified this unprecedented prosecution by citing the need to protect classified information and the rule of law. But do we really have “one set of laws in this country”? Here is a list of eight past examples of high-profile individuals who were never prosecuted for the same basic or similar allegations.
Hillary Clinton – Former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton was found to have maintained a private email server during her four-year tenure at the Department of State. The server was located in a bathroom closet in a loft in Denver, Colorado, and included classified information. Worse yet, Clinton used 13 mobile devices to send and receive emails on the server, and five iPads. Some of the mobile devices were destroyed with hammers.
Despite Hillary Clinton’s denials, there were hundreds of emails on her private server that included classified information. As Fox News noted last year (original links):

Intelligence Community Inspector General I. Charles McCullough III laid out the findings of the Clinton documents review by intelligence agencies that identified “several dozen” additional classified emails – including specific intelligence known as “special access programs” (SAP).​

~Snip~
Bill Clinton – In what became known as the “Socks case,” Judicial Watch, a private non-profit organization, sued the government to compel it to provide audio tapes made by the White House when Bill Clinton was president and participating in interviews with a historian. President Clinton allegedly hid the tapes in his sock drawer when he left the White House, the better to claim them as “personal” rather than presidential records.
~Snip~
Joe Biden – President Biden took classified documents from the Sensitive Compartmented Information Facility (SCIF) in the Senate when he left to take up his new post as vice president. Those papers were stored in his archive at the University of Delaware, which sealed public access to his records. More egregiously, he was found to have taken classified documents to his private home in Wilmington, Delaware, where they were stored in his garage, next to his Corvette. His son, Hunter Biden, known to have close contacts with foreign business partners and even Chinese intelligence, stayed at the house during the time the classified documents were kept there, and had access to the garage, and was even seen driving the Corvette.
~Snip~
James Comey – Outgoing FBI director, who had just been fired by President Trump, leaked memoranda of his conversations with the president to the press, via a Columbia University professor — who later became his lawyer — who then leaked them to the media. Comey did so, he later admitted, hoping to trigger the appointment of a special counsel to probe allegations of “Russia collusion” — even though he and the FBI knew that the primary source of the claims, the so-called “Steele dossier,” was a fraud. The Department of Justice investigated the leaks but declined to do anything about it, saying Comey did not intend to leak to the media.
~Snip~
Barack Obama – A president cannot “leak,” by definition, because the president has full authority to classify or declassify information. But the Obama White House leaked sensitive information on a constant basis. In 2012, the New York Times reported that then-President Barack Obama maintained a “kill list” of suspected foreign terrorists who were to be droned. The report made Obama look tough during a close reelection fight; the information was almost certainly leaked by someone in the White House. Yet despite the concern in some quarters, both about the leak and the substance of it, Obama was never held responsible for it.
~Snip~
Mike Pence – Just as Biden was found to have kept classified documents at his personal resident, so, too, former Vice President Pence was found to have government documents at his home, apparently taken as part of his effort to compose his political memoirs in anticipation of his presidential campaign in 2024. Pence returned the documents after they were discovered. Still, like Biden, Pence had no authority to take the documents, even as vice president. The Department of Justice declined to prosecute Pence just before it indicted Trump.
~Snip~
Lyndon Johnson – As conservative radio host Mark Levin has noted, the president most associated with the Vietnam War removed sensitive federal records, sealed them for 50 years, and even destroyed some of them. From the Miller Center at the University of Virginia:
~Snip~
Leon Panetta – Then-CIA Director Panetta allegedly leaked classified information to a filmmaker behind Zero Dark Thirty, a film about the search for Al Qaeda terrorist leader Osama bin Laden that was originally intended for release before the 2012 elections. A draft inspector general’s report suggested that Panetta had revealed the unit involved in the mission, as well as its commander, as screenwriter Mark Boal was present for a CIA event.
~Snip~
The point is not that mishandling of classified information is never punished: it is often punished harshly when the defendants are low-level leakers or inadvertent offenders. But senior officials often escape punishment, or are lightly punished, especially if they are Democrats.
The way that President Donald Trump is being treated is extraordinary and vastly out of proportion to both the alleged offenses and the history of such investigations.


Commentary:
Maoists Leftists are terrified of the thought that a man who cannot be bought, who they can't find any real dirt on, who they cannot control through blackmail or any other means, could be President again.
The possibility that there could be thousands of examples that have been ignored and left unprosecuted, but this corrupt DOJ, FBI, Department of Archives, and administration will use everything at their disposal to attempt to derail Trump or assassinate his character and reputation. There is a “Deep State” of evil within this country. Trump is an existential threat to all of them.
Sessions was compromised and should have appointed a special counsel to investigate either clearing her and other associates also involved in the mishandling of documents or indicting them. That is how the justice system works, or at least is supposed to work.
Hillary destroyed subpoenaed evidence in a federal investigation and there is no denying that she did it.
This alone would land anyone in prison regardless of whether or not there were any other criminal charges in a case.
Yet, Comey told us on national TV there was "NO INTENT"!!!!!! NO REASONABLE PROSCUTOR WOULD PROSCUTE!!!! IF YOU CAN'T BELIEVE HIM....WHO CAN YOU BELIEVE?????

You forgot Hillary



I liked it at the end when Comey said that even though Hillary should not be held accountable for it, that anyone that did similar things in the future cannot be expected to be treated with kid gloves like they handled her as they most likely would wind up in jail.

 

[alang1216]

8 Cases Where Mishandling of Classified Information Went Unpunished​

8 Cases Where Mishandling of Classified Information Went Unpunished

Do we really have "one set of laws"? A review of 17 examples of alleged mishandling of classified information suggests a double standard.

www.breitbart.com

24 Jun 2023 ~~ By JOEL B. POLLAK

The core of the accusation against former President Donald Trump is the allegation that he retained and mishandled classified information and national defense secrets. Special Counsel Jack Smith justified this unprecedented prosecution by citing the need to protect classified information and the rule of law. But do we really have “one set of laws in this country”? Here is a list of eight past examples of high-profile individuals who were never prosecuted for the same basic or similar allegations.
Hillary Clinton – Former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton was found to have maintained a private email server during her four-year tenure at the Department of State. The server was located in a bathroom closet in a loft in Denver, Colorado, and included classified information. Worse yet, Clinton used 13 mobile devices to send and receive emails on the server, and five iPads. Some of the mobile devices were destroyed with hammers.
Despite Hillary Clinton’s denials, there were hundreds of emails on her private server that included classified information. As Fox News noted last year (original links):

Intelligence Community Inspector General I. Charles McCullough III laid out the findings of the Clinton documents review by intelligence agencies that identified “several dozen” additional classified emails – including specific intelligence known as “special access programs” (SAP).​

~Snip~
Bill Clinton – In what became known as the “Socks case,” Judicial Watch, a private non-profit organization, sued the government to compel it to provide audio tapes made by the White House when Bill Clinton was president and participating in interviews with a historian. President Clinton allegedly hid the tapes in his sock drawer when he left the White House, the better to claim them as “personal” rather than presidential records.
~Snip~
Joe Biden – President Biden took classified documents from the Sensitive Compartmented Information Facility (SCIF) in the Senate when he left to take up his new post as vice president. Those papers were stored in his archive at the University of Delaware, which sealed public access to his records. More egregiously, he was found to have taken classified documents to his private home in Wilmington, Delaware, where they were stored in his garage, next to his Corvette. His son, Hunter Biden, known to have close contacts with foreign business partners and even Chinese intelligence, stayed at the house during the time the classified documents were kept there, and had access to the garage, and was even seen driving the Corvette.
~Snip~
James Comey – Outgoing FBI director, who had just been fired by President Trump, leaked memoranda of his conversations with the president to the press, via a Columbia University professor — who later became his lawyer — who then leaked them to the media. Comey did so, he later admitted, hoping to trigger the appointment of a special counsel to probe allegations of “Russia collusion” — even though he and the FBI knew that the primary source of the claims, the so-called “Steele dossier,” was a fraud. The Department of Justice investigated the leaks but declined to do anything about it, saying Comey did not intend to leak to the media.
~Snip~
Barack Obama – A president cannot “leak,” by definition, because the president has full authority to classify or declassify information. But the Obama White House leaked sensitive information on a constant basis. In 2012, the New York Times reported that then-President Barack Obama maintained a “kill list” of suspected foreign terrorists who were to be droned. The report made Obama look tough during a close reelection fight; the information was almost certainly leaked by someone in the White House. Yet despite the concern in some quarters, both about the leak and the substance of it, Obama was never held responsible for it.
~Snip~
Mike Pence – Just as Biden was found to have kept classified documents at his personal resident, so, too, former Vice President Pence was found to have government documents at his home, apparently taken as part of his effort to compose his political memoirs in anticipation of his presidential campaign in 2024. Pence returned the documents after they were discovered. Still, like Biden, Pence had no authority to take the documents, even as vice president. The Department of Justice declined to prosecute Pence just before it indicted Trump.
~Snip~
Lyndon Johnson – As conservative radio host Mark Levin has noted, the president most associated with the Vietnam War removed sensitive federal records, sealed them for 50 years, and even destroyed some of them. From the Miller Center at the University of Virginia:
~Snip~
Leon Panetta – Then-CIA Director Panetta allegedly leaked classified information to a filmmaker behind Zero Dark Thirty, a film about the search for Al Qaeda terrorist leader Osama bin Laden that was originally intended for release before the 2012 elections. A draft inspector general’s report suggested that Panetta had revealed the unit involved in the mission, as well as its commander, as screenwriter Mark Boal was present for a CIA event.
~Snip~
The point is not that mishandling of classified information is never punished: it is often punished harshly when the defendants are low-level leakers or inadvertent offenders. But senior officials often escape punishment, or are lightly punished, especially if they are Democrats.
The way that President Donald Trump is being treated is extraordinary and vastly out of proportion to both the alleged offenses and the history of such investigations.


Commentary:
Maoists Leftists are terrified of the thought that a man who cannot be bought, who they can't find any real dirt on, who they cannot control through blackmail or any other means, could be President again.
The possibility that there could be thousands of examples that have been ignored and left unprosecuted, but this corrupt DOJ, FBI, Department of Archives, and administration will use everything at their disposal to attempt to derail Trump or assassinate his character and reputation. There is a “Deep State” of evil within this country. Trump is an existential threat to all of them.
Sessions was compromised and should have appointed a special counsel to investigate either clearing her and other associates also involved in the mishandling of documents or indicting them. That is how the justice system works, or at least is supposed to work.
Hillary destroyed subpoenaed evidence in a federal investigation and there is no denying that she did it.
This alone would land anyone in prison regardless of whether or not there were any other criminal charges in a case.
Yet, Comey told us on national TV there was "NO INTENT"!!!!!! NO REASONABLE PROSCUTOR WOULD PROSCUTE!!!! IF YOU CAN'T BELIEVE HIM....WHO CAN YOU BELIEVE?????

Trump is the only one who lied about having them and then tried to hide them. That was his crime. If he had just cooperated and returned them like the others did he'd be free and clear. This is a self-inflicted injury.

 

[CowboyTed]

8 Cases Where Mishandling of Classified Information Went Unpunished​

8 Cases Where Mishandling of Classified Information Went Unpunished

Do we really have "one set of laws"? A review of 17 examples of alleged mishandling of classified information suggests a double standard.

www.breitbart.com

24 Jun 2023 ~~ By JOEL B. POLLAK

The core of the accusation against former President Donald Trump is the allegation that he retained and mishandled classified information and national defense secrets. Special Counsel Jack Smith justified this unprecedented prosecution by citing the need to protect classified information and the rule of law. But do we really have “one set of laws in this country”? Here is a list of eight past examples of high-profile individuals who were never prosecuted for the same basic or similar allegations.
Hillary Clinton – Former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton was found to have maintained a private email server during her four-year tenure at the Department of State. The server was located in a bathroom closet in a loft in Denver, Colorado, and included classified information. Worse yet, Clinton used 13 mobile devices to send and receive emails on the server, and five iPads. Some of the mobile devices were destroyed with hammers.
Despite Hillary Clinton’s denials, there were hundreds of emails on her private server that included classified information. As Fox News noted last year (original links):

Intelligence Community Inspector General I. Charles McCullough III laid out the findings of the Clinton documents review by intelligence agencies that identified “several dozen” additional classified emails – including specific intelligence known as “special access programs” (SAP).​

~Snip~
Bill Clinton – In what became known as the “Socks case,” Judicial Watch, a private non-profit organization, sued the government to compel it to provide audio tapes made by the White House when Bill Clinton was president and participating in interviews with a historian. President Clinton allegedly hid the tapes in his sock drawer when he left the White House, the better to claim them as “personal” rather than presidential records.
~Snip~
Joe Biden – President Biden took classified documents from the Sensitive Compartmented Information Facility (SCIF) in the Senate when he left to take up his new post as vice president. Those papers were stored in his archive at the University of Delaware, which sealed public access to his records. More egregiously, he was found to have taken classified documents to his private home in Wilmington, Delaware, where they were stored in his garage, next to his Corvette. His son, Hunter Biden, known to have close contacts with foreign business partners and even Chinese intelligence, stayed at the house during the time the classified documents were kept there, and had access to the garage, and was even seen driving the Corvette.
~Snip~
James Comey – Outgoing FBI director, who had just been fired by President Trump, leaked memoranda of his conversations with the president to the press, via a Columbia University professor — who later became his lawyer — who then leaked them to the media. Comey did so, he later admitted, hoping to trigger the appointment of a special counsel to probe allegations of “Russia collusion” — even though he and the FBI knew that the primary source of the claims, the so-called “Steele dossier,” was a fraud. The Department of Justice investigated the leaks but declined to do anything about it, saying Comey did not intend to leak to the media.
~Snip~
Barack Obama – A president cannot “leak,” by definition, because the president has full authority to classify or declassify information. But the Obama White House leaked sensitive information on a constant basis. In 2012, the New York Times reported that then-President Barack Obama maintained a “kill list” of suspected foreign terrorists who were to be droned. The report made Obama look tough during a close reelection fight; the information was almost certainly leaked by someone in the White House. Yet despite the concern in some quarters, both about the leak and the substance of it, Obama was never held responsible for it.
~Snip~
Mike Pence – Just as Biden was found to have kept classified documents at his personal resident, so, too, former Vice President Pence was found to have government documents at his home, apparently taken as part of his effort to compose his political memoirs in anticipation of his presidential campaign in 2024. Pence returned the documents after they were discovered. Still, like Biden, Pence had no authority to take the documents, even as vice president. The Department of Justice declined to prosecute Pence just before it indicted Trump.
~Snip~
Lyndon Johnson – As conservative radio host Mark Levin has noted, the president most associated with the Vietnam War removed sensitive federal records, sealed them for 50 years, and even destroyed some of them. From the Miller Center at the University of Virginia:
~Snip~
Leon Panetta – Then-CIA Director Panetta allegedly leaked classified information to a filmmaker behind Zero Dark Thirty, a film about the search for Al Qaeda terrorist leader Osama bin Laden that was originally intended for release before the 2012 elections. A draft inspector general’s report suggested that Panetta had revealed the unit involved in the mission, as well as its commander, as screenwriter Mark Boal was present for a CIA event.
~Snip~
The point is not that mishandling of classified information is never punished: it is often punished harshly when the defendants are low-level leakers or inadvertent offenders. But senior officials often escape punishment, or are lightly punished, especially if they are Democrats.
The way that President Donald Trump is being treated is extraordinary and vastly out of proportion to both the alleged offenses and the history of such investigations.


Commentary:
Maoists Leftists are terrified of the thought that a man who cannot be bought, who they can't find any real dirt on, who they cannot control through blackmail or any other means, could be President again.
The possibility that there could be thousands of examples that have been ignored and left unprosecuted, but this corrupt DOJ, FBI, Department of Archives, and administration will use everything at their disposal to attempt to derail Trump or assassinate his character and reputation. There is a “Deep State” of evil within this country. Trump is an existential threat to all of them.
Sessions was compromised and should have appointed a special counsel to investigate either clearing her and other associates also involved in the mishandling of documents or indicting them. That is how the justice system works, or at least is supposed to work.
Hillary destroyed subpoenaed evidence in a federal investigation and there is no denying that she did it.
This alone would land anyone in prison regardless of whether or not there were any other criminal charges in a case.
Yet, Comey told us on national TV there was "NO INTENT"!!!!!! NO REASONABLE PROSCUTOR WOULD PROSCUTE!!!! IF YOU CAN'T BELIEVE HIM....WHO CAN YOU BELIEVE?????

Trump was not going to charged for taking the documents by accident until he said he took them on purpose...

Trump then refused to return them. (he is getting charged for that)

Having secret documents packed by a federal employee into your personal things is not a crime. That is an error by the Federal Employee...
A crime is when you discover it that you don't report it.

 

[Captain Caveman]

Trump is the only one who lied about having them and then tried to hide them. That was his crime. If he had just cooperated and returned them like the others did he'd be free and clear. This is a self-inflicted injury.

So the crime on the books, per the law, is not having classified information, but keeping them when asked. Hiding tapes in drawers is not classed as hiding

Any chance of linking your bizarre post to a specific part of the law?

 

[alang1216]

So the crime on the books, per the law, is not having classified information, but keeping them when asked. Hiding tapes in drawers is not classed as hiding

Any chance of linking your bizarre post to a specific part of the law?

Obstruction of justice. Here is the indictment which spells it all out. As Nixon learned, it was not the crime but the cover up that was the issue.

 

[the watcher]

Obstruction of justice implies that there is a form of justice in existence which was somehow obstructed.

 

[Doc7505]

You forgot Hillary



I liked it at the end when Comey said that even though Hillary should not be held accountable for it, that anyone that did similar things in the future cannot be expected to be treated with kid gloves like they handled her as they most likely would wind up in jail.

~~~~~~
Check again, Hillary was first on the list.

 

[The Duke]

"Mishandled". Holy crap.

These folks just refuse to read the indictment. Or, they have, and they're lying. Or, they have, and they think it's fake news.

That's okay. Jack Smith has the goods, provided by Trump's own people.

So you think, TDS Mac. That has yet to be proven according to the law.

 

[Mac1958]

So you think, TDS Mac. That has yet to be proven according to the law.

Correct! In a court of American law.

Like the "rigged election" farce.

 

[The Duke]

Correct! In a court of American law.

Like the "rigged election" farce.

They denied evidentiary hearings. The American Justice system is far from perfect.

You can't have real evidence without a real investigation, which there hasn't been.

 

[Captain Caveman]

Obstruction of justice. Here is the indictment which spells it all out. As Nixon learned, it was not the crime but the cover up that was the issue.

So all the others on the list committed a crime too?

So what will America do with all these "secret" criminals, or does America hold certain people above the law?

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

And what does that have to do with Trump's indictment? I don't think he destroyed evidence, he just lied and obstructed and so forth. To federal officers no less.

 

[Rigby5]

"Mishandled". Holy crap.

These folks just refuse to read the indictment. Or, they have, and they're lying. Or, they have, and they think it's fake news.

That's okay. Jack Smith has the goods, provided by Trump's own people.

Wrong.
Just read the indictment yourself.
It says there were about 150 boxes at Mar-a-Lago, each capable of holding more than 100 documents, and yet only 71 were classified, out of the 15,000 total.
That clearly just implies lazy sorting.

 

[Rigby5]

You forgot Hillary



I liked it at the end when Comey said that even though Hillary should not be held accountable for it, that anyone that did similar things in the future cannot be expected to be treated with kid gloves like they handled her as they most likely would wind up in jail.

The problem with what Hillary did was not just using the private email server instead of the require state department encrypted server.
The main problem is that she was not president, VP, or have a security clearance, so was not supposed to have any classified docs at all.
And even worse if that she put these classified docs on an unencrypted email server that was trivial to hack from anywhere in the world.
And the worst was destroying all the evidence.

 

[Rigby5]

Trump was not going to charged for taking the documents by accident until he said he took them on purpose...

Trump then refused to return them. (he is getting charged for that)

Having secret documents packed by a federal employee into your personal things is not a crime. That is an error by the Federal Employee...
A crime is when you discover it that you don't report it.

Except that it is perfectly legal for ex-presidents to have copies of any classified docs they want.
All they have to do is give themselves copies when president.
And all presidents do just that.
It is ex-presidents who run presidential libraries, write memoirs, etc., not NARA.
NARA is totally subservient to an ex-president and does what the ex-president wants.

 

[Rigby5]

Trump is the only one who lied about having them and then tried to hide them. That was his crime. If he had just cooperated and returned them like the others did he'd be free and clear. This is a self-inflicted injury.

All ex-presidents have copies of classified docs and they keep them for their presidential libraries or for writing their memoirs.

 

[alang1216]

All ex-presidents have copies of classified docs and they keep them for their presidential libraries or for writing their memoirs.

If Trump had them legitimately, why did he lie and why did he hide them? He has a boatload of lawyers, he could have fought the case in the courts. As Nixon learned, it is not the crime, it is the cover up.