jc456
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75% of people in California getting COVID are “fully vaxxed”, so much for “the vax stops the virus” lie.
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BluesLegend
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Did you read the OP franco? Come here my emotional friend, 
progressive hunter
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its been the claim all along from common sense people, but now we have it right from the horses mouth,,
www.theblaze.com
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'We can no longer say this is a pandemic of the unvaccinated': CDC data indicates vaccinated, boosted people together make up majority of COVID-19 deaths | Blaze Media
President Joe Biden last December warned of a "winter of severe illness and death for the unvaccinated." But new data from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention highlighted a trend that would suggest that the greater share of COVID-19 deaths this winter will be among the vaccinated and...
www.theblaze.com
Why Do Vaccinated People Represent Most COVID-19 Deaths Right Now? | KFF
This post explores why the share of COVID-19 deaths among those who are vaccinated has risen, Factors include a rising share of the population that is vaccinated, waning immune protection and low uptake of boosters, and changes in immunity among the unvaccinated.
www.kff.org
jc456
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There’s absolutely no evidence to support your post. Remain stupid
its been the claim all along from common sense people, but now we have it right from the horses mouth,,
'We can no longer say this is a pandemic of the unvaccinated': CDC data indicates vaccinated, boosted people together make up majority of COVID-19 deaths | Blaze Media
President Joe Biden last December warned of a "winter of severe illness and death for the unvaccinated." But new data from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention highlighted a trend that would suggest that the greater share of COVID-19 deaths this winter will be among the vaccinated and...
Why Do Vaccinated People Represent Most COVID-19 Deaths Right Now? | KFF
This post explores why the share of COVID-19 deaths among those who are vaccinated has risen, Factors include a rising share of the population that is vaccinated, waning immune protection and low uptake of boosters, and changes in immunity among the unvaccinated.
shockedcanadian
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As I am a statistical minded person, are these actual outcomes or based on proportionate outcomes? Also, we have to expect that the majority of people vaxxed, boosted and whatnot are from the older population since they are most vulnerable. That age of vulnerability also leads to more natural deaths, death by illness etc. So we need deep diving into the data.
For instance, if 90% of a population is vaxxed (I know the U.S is far lower than this figure), we of course would expect more actual outcomes since only 10% are not vaxxed.
I'm not disputing the possibility of bad results, there may be some high risk outcomes for the vaxxed. I suspect if this is true, it would be most easily gleaned by healthy, strong candidates, the ones I believed needed to least be vaxxed and might have the most risk if they are if it has dangerous side effects, especially since the vax was probably produced to protect the weakest.
For instance, if 90% of a population is vaxxed (I know the U.S is far lower than this figure), we of course would expect more actual outcomes since only 10% are not vaxxed.
I'm not disputing the possibility of bad results, there may be some high risk outcomes for the vaxxed. I suspect if this is true, it would be most easily gleaned by healthy, strong candidates, the ones I believed needed to least be vaxxed and might have the most risk if they are if it has dangerous side effects, especially since the vax was probably produced to protect the weakest.
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progressive hunter
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is there anything in the articles that help you??
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I never said any of that shit. But if you really want to get into this.
93% of COVID deaths are people over 50. If you're under 50 and getting a vaccine, you're an idiot.
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Someone is math challenged.its been the claim all along from common sense people, but now we have it right from the horses mouth,,
'We can no longer say this is a pandemic of the unvaccinated': CDC data indicates vaccinated, boosted people together make up majority of COVID-19 deaths | Blaze Media
President Joe Biden last December warned of a "winter of severe illness and death for the unvaccinated." But new data from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention highlighted a trend that would suggest that the greater share of COVID-19 deaths this winter will be among the vaccinated and...
Why Do Vaccinated People Represent Most COVID-19 Deaths Right Now? | KFF
This post explores why the share of COVID-19 deaths among those who are vaccinated has risen, Factors include a rising share of the population that is vaccinated, waning immune protection and low uptake of boosters, and changes in immunity among the unvaccinated.
jc456
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They’re merely sheeple repeating nonsense
Catsnmeters
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I've been saying for a while. Somebody needs to hold Trump accountable. The biggest socialist failure in decades. Will Repubs in the house take this on next year? I hope so.its been the claim all along from common sense people, but now we have it right from the horses mouth,,
'We can no longer say this is a pandemic of the unvaccinated': CDC data indicates vaccinated, boosted people together make up majority of COVID-19 deaths | Blaze Media
President Joe Biden last December warned of a "winter of severe illness and death for the unvaccinated." But new data from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention highlighted a trend that would suggest that the greater share of COVID-19 deaths this winter will be among the vaccinated and...
Why Do Vaccinated People Represent Most COVID-19 Deaths Right Now? | KFF
This post explores why the share of COVID-19 deaths among those who are vaccinated has risen, Factors include a rising share of the population that is vaccinated, waning immune protection and low uptake of boosters, and changes in immunity among the unvaccinated.
progressive hunter
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what did trump do??
created a phobia no vax will ever cure?
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Those ineffective drugs seem to help make sure you get long COVID...
Biden's COVID Rebounded After Paxlovid. Here's What That Means
After President Biden tested positive for COVID-19 last month, he experienced a Paxlovid rebound. Here's what that means and why people with rebound symptoms should take precautions.
Fauci Says He Had Paxlovid Rebound, Worse Symptoms
Anthony Fauci, MD, the chief medical adviser to President Joe Biden, said Tuesday that he went through a “Paxlovid rebound” that can occur after taking the antiviral to recover from COVID-19.
www.webmd.com
CDC director tests positive for Covid again after Paxlovid treatment
Paxlovid has proven effective among those at highest risk, including older people and those who are immune compromised. But it appears to provide little or for younger adults.
www.nbcnews.com
Instead of getting COVID for a few days, take Paxlovid, and you can have COVID for 20.
Another "free" drug that doesn't work. Paid for by taxpayers, to increase Pfizer's profits. Then Pfizer kicks some back to Dems in the form of political donations.
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jc456
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I’d prefer goberment let doctors be doctors and stop interfering with our healthThose ineffective drugs seem to help make sure you get long COVID...
Biden's COVID Rebounded After Paxlovid. Here's What That Means
After President Biden tested positive for COVID-19 last month, he experienced a Paxlovid rebound. Here's what that means and why people with rebound symptoms should take precautions.news.yahoo.com
Fauci Says He Had Paxlovid Rebound, Worse Symptoms
Anthony Fauci, MD, the chief medical adviser to President Joe Biden, said Tuesday that he went through a “Paxlovid rebound” that can occur after taking the antiviral to recover from COVID-19.
CDC director tests positive for Covid again after Paxlovid treatment
Paxlovid has proven effective among those at highest risk, including older people and those who are immune compromised. But it appears to provide little or for younger adults.
Instead of getting COVID for a few days, take Paxlovid, and you can have COVID for 20.
Winston
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Yep, lots of things.
There are several factors at play here, including a rising share of the population that is vaccinated,
New variants combined with a reduction in masking and other non-pharmaceutical interventions may also lead to more transmission, which can in turn lead to more deaths.
Oh shit, a reduction in masking, but let's move on.
During the early rollout of vaccines, vaccinated people represented a small share of total deaths, but experts warned that the share would likely rise simply because vaccinated people were representing a growing share of the population.
I mean, do you morons even read these links.
There are many more vaccinated people than there are unvaccinated people, and vaccinated and boosted people are, on average, older and more likely to have underlying health conditions that put them at risk for severe COVID-19 outcomes.
Already mentioned in this thread. My father passed away four months ago, at 84. Fully vaccinated and boosted, his death had nothing to do with Covid. I mean this thread is beyond stupid.
It would be a misrepresentation of the finding to say it is evidence against vaccination. This finding actually underscores the importance of staying up-to-date on boosters.
According to CDC, people ages 12 and older who have had a bivalent booster shot have a 15 times lower risk of death than an unvaccinated person.
I mean you see that shit? The article linked in the OP clearly states, it would be a misrepresentation to use these findings to claim it is against vaccination, and yet that is precisely what some stupid shit does. I mean it is common damn sense. If four out of five Americans are vaccinated, then four out of five people that die are probably vaccinated. Except it ain't even close to that shit. It is like three out of five. So all you anti-vaxers, you are the one extra. Five people die. Three are fully vaxed, but one out of every five people that die, die because they are STUPID ASS SHITS and not vaxed. That is what the numbers show, you flippin morons have no damn clue. Chalk it up to Darwinism, you dumbfawks will be gone soon enough.
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You don't know?
He threw socialist money at big pharma to fast track a vaccine, against the advice of Fauci, and now that vaccine is seemingly a failure. I gotta think we need to follow the money.
To be honest I am a bit surprised Trump himself hasn't spoken out against these attacks. Usually he is not afraid to defend himself.
progressive hunter
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he fast tracked a vaccine and this isnt even a vaccine,,
didnt know fauci was against it,,
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