75% of people in California getting COVID are “fully vaxxed”, so much for “the vax stops the virus” lie.

[jc456]

you don't have any pertinent data, all you have is garbage propaganda repeated endlessly. In effect, anti American propaganda spreading chaos and disrespect for our public servants and institutions because emails and pedophilia. You people are absolute idiots oops. Scientists may be mistaken but they are not lying to you. Idiocy.

Wrong again idiot.

Wish to debate that? Or do you want to remain the fool?

 

[BluesLegend]

What didn't work was brainwashed functional moron GOP base voters who refused to get vaccinated because of their ridiculous propaganda so we had the worst reaction of any country in the world and the orange clown and nut job conservatives here spread the word to other conspiracy nut conservatives around the world. That's why you get really stupid threads like this. The vax stops the virus from killing you nowadays. The original vaccine was 94% effective and could have stopped it.

Did you read the OP franco? Come here my emotional friend,

 

[progressive hunter]

its been the claim all along from common sense people, but now we have it right from the horses mouth,,

'We can no longer say this is a pandemic of the unvaccinated': CDC data indicates vaccinated, boosted people together make up majority of COVID-19 deaths | Blaze Media

President Joe Biden last December warned of a "winter of severe illness and death for the unvaccinated." But new data from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention highlighted a trend that would suggest that the greater share of COVID-19 deaths this winter will be among the vaccinated and...

www.theblaze.com

Why Do Vaccinated People Represent Most COVID-19 Deaths Right Now? | KFF

This post explores why the share of COVID-19 deaths among those who are vaccinated has risen, Factors include a rising share of the population that is vaccinated, waning immune protection and low uptake of boosters, and changes in immunity among the unvaccinated.

www.kff.org

Rates of COVID-19 Cases or Deaths by Age Group and Vaccination Status and Booster Dose | Data | Centers for Disease Control and Prevention

data.cdc.gov

 

[jc456]

What didn't work was brainwashed functional moron GOP base voters who refused to get vaccinated because of their ridiculous propaganda so we had the worst reaction of any country in the world and the orange clown and nut job conservatives here spread the word to other conspiracy nut conservatives around the world. That's why you get really stupid threads like this. The vax stops the virus from killing you nowadays. The original vaccine was 94% effective and could have stopped it.

There’s absolutely no evidence to support your post. Remain stupid

 

[theHawk]

its been the claim all along from common sense people, but now we have it right from the horses mouth,,

'We can no longer say this is a pandemic of the unvaccinated': CDC data indicates vaccinated, boosted people together make up majority of COVID-19 deaths | Blaze Media

President Joe Biden last December warned of a "winter of severe illness and death for the unvaccinated." But new data from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention highlighted a trend that would suggest that the greater share of COVID-19 deaths this winter will be among the vaccinated and...

www.theblaze.com

Why Do Vaccinated People Represent Most COVID-19 Deaths Right Now? | KFF

This post explores why the share of COVID-19 deaths among those who are vaccinated has risen, Factors include a rising share of the population that is vaccinated, waning immune protection and low uptake of boosters, and changes in immunity among the unvaccinated.

www.kff.org

Rates of COVID-19 Cases or Deaths by Age Group and Vaccination Status and Booster Dose | Data | Centers for Disease Control and Prevention

data.cdc.gov

 

[shockedcanadian]

As I am a statistical minded person, are these actual outcomes or based on proportionate outcomes? Also, we have to expect that the majority of people vaxxed, boosted and whatnot are from the older population since they are most vulnerable. That age of vulnerability also leads to more natural deaths, death by illness etc. So we need deep diving into the data.

For instance, if 90% of a population is vaxxed (I know the U.S is far lower than this figure), we of course would expect more actual outcomes since only 10% are not vaxxed.

I'm not disputing the possibility of bad results, there may be some high risk outcomes for the vaxxed. I suspect if this is true, it would be most easily gleaned by healthy, strong candidates, the ones I believed needed to least be vaxxed and might have the most risk if they are if it has dangerous side effects, especially since the vax was probably produced to protect the weakest.

 

[progressive hunter]

As I am a statistical minded person, are these actual outcomes or based on proportionate outcomes? Also, we have to expect that the majority of people vaxxed, boosted and whatnot are from the older population since they are most vulnerable. That vulnerability also leads to more natural deaths, death by illness etc. So we need deep diving into the data.

For instance, if 90% of a population is vaxxed (I know the U.S is far lower than this figure), we of course would expect more actually outcomes since only 10% are not vaxxed.

It may be possible there are bad outcomes for the vaxxed, I believe if true, it would be most easily gleaned by healthy, strong candidates, the ones I believed needed to least be vaxxed and might have the most risk if they are, especially since the vax as probably produced to protect the weakest.

is there anything in the articles that help you??

 

[Couchpotato]

Nobody gives a damn about it lol... Change the channel from the conspiracy nut channel, get with the damn program. Scientists don't lie because they hate trump. Neither does the FBI or the DOJ or anyone else except republicans who are cowards and scared shirtless of him

I never said any of that shit. But if you really want to get into this.

93% of COVID deaths are people over 50. If you're under 50 and getting a vaccine, you're an idiot.

 

[candycorn]

its been the claim all along from common sense people, but now we have it right from the horses mouth,,

'We can no longer say this is a pandemic of the unvaccinated': CDC data indicates vaccinated, boosted people together make up majority of COVID-19 deaths | Blaze Media

President Joe Biden last December warned of a "winter of severe illness and death for the unvaccinated." But new data from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention highlighted a trend that would suggest that the greater share of COVID-19 deaths this winter will be among the vaccinated and...

www.theblaze.com

Why Do Vaccinated People Represent Most COVID-19 Deaths Right Now? | KFF

This post explores why the share of COVID-19 deaths among those who are vaccinated has risen, Factors include a rising share of the population that is vaccinated, waning immune protection and low uptake of boosters, and changes in immunity among the unvaccinated.

www.kff.org

Rates of COVID-19 Cases or Deaths by Age Group and Vaccination Status and Booster Dose | Data | Centers for Disease Control and Prevention

data.cdc.gov

Someone is math challenged.

 

[sparky]

looks like we can take our tin hats off now.......~S~

 

[jc456]

I never said any of that shit. But if you really want to get into this.

93% of COVID deaths are people over 50. If you're under 50 and getting a vaccine, you're an idiot.

They’re merely sheeple repeating nonsense

 

[Catsnmeters]

its been the claim all along from common sense people, but now we have it right from the horses mouth,,

'We can no longer say this is a pandemic of the unvaccinated': CDC data indicates vaccinated, boosted people together make up majority of COVID-19 deaths | Blaze Media

President Joe Biden last December warned of a "winter of severe illness and death for the unvaccinated." But new data from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention highlighted a trend that would suggest that the greater share of COVID-19 deaths this winter will be among the vaccinated and...

www.theblaze.com

Why Do Vaccinated People Represent Most COVID-19 Deaths Right Now? | KFF

This post explores why the share of COVID-19 deaths among those who are vaccinated has risen, Factors include a rising share of the population that is vaccinated, waning immune protection and low uptake of boosters, and changes in immunity among the unvaccinated.

www.kff.org

Rates of COVID-19 Cases or Deaths by Age Group and Vaccination Status and Booster Dose | Data | Centers for Disease Control and Prevention

data.cdc.gov

I've been saying for a while. Somebody needs to hold Trump accountable. The biggest socialist failure in decades. Will Repubs in the house take this on next year? I hope so.

 

[progressive hunter]

I've been saying for a while. Somebody needs to hold Trump accountable. The biggest socialist failure in decades. Will Repubs in the house take this on next year? I hope so.

what did trump do??

 

[sparky]

what did trump do??

created a phobia no vax will ever cure?
~S~

 

[Jim H - VA USA]

They have new drugs that help once you catch it now also. You know absolutely nothing about it. Try a reputable news source, brainwashed functional moron. For chrissake Google it

Those ineffective drugs seem to help make sure you get long COVID...

Biden's COVID Rebounded After Paxlovid. Here's What That Means

After President Biden tested positive for COVID-19 last month, he experienced a Paxlovid rebound. Here's what that means and why people with rebound symptoms should take precautions.

news.yahoo.com

Fauci Says He Had Paxlovid Rebound, Worse Symptoms

Anthony Fauci, MD, the chief medical adviser to President Joe Biden, said Tuesday that he went through a “Paxlovid rebound” that can occur after taking the antiviral to recover from COVID-19.

www.webmd.com

CDC director tests positive for Covid again after Paxlovid treatment

Paxlovid has proven effective among those at highest risk, including older people and those who are immune compromised. But it appears to provide little or for younger adults.

www.nbcnews.com

Instead of getting COVID for a few days, take Paxlovid, and you can have COVID for 20.

Another "free" drug that doesn't work. Paid for by taxpayers, to increase Pfizer's profits. Then Pfizer kicks some back to Dems in the form of political donations.

 

[jc456]

Those ineffective drugs seem to help make sure you get long COVID...

Biden's COVID Rebounded After Paxlovid. Here's What That Means

After President Biden tested positive for COVID-19 last month, he experienced a Paxlovid rebound. Here's what that means and why people with rebound symptoms should take precautions.

news.yahoo.com

Fauci Says He Had Paxlovid Rebound, Worse Symptoms

Anthony Fauci, MD, the chief medical adviser to President Joe Biden, said Tuesday that he went through a “Paxlovid rebound” that can occur after taking the antiviral to recover from COVID-19.

www.webmd.com

CDC director tests positive for Covid again after Paxlovid treatment

Paxlovid has proven effective among those at highest risk, including older people and those who are immune compromised. But it appears to provide little or for younger adults.

www.nbcnews.com

Instead of getting COVID for a few days, take Paxlovid, and you can have COVID for 20.

I’d prefer goberment let doctors be doctors and stop interfering with our health

 

[Winston]

is there anything in the articles that help you??

Yep, lots of things.

There are several factors at play here, including a rising share of the population that is vaccinated,

New variants combined with a reduction in masking and other non-pharmaceutical interventions may also lead to more transmission, which can in turn lead to more deaths.

Oh shit, a reduction in masking, but let's move on.

During the early rollout of vaccines, vaccinated people represented a small share of total deaths, but experts warned that the share would likely rise simply because vaccinated people were representing a growing share of the population.

I mean, do you morons even read these links.

There are many more vaccinated people than there are unvaccinated people, and vaccinated and boosted people are, on average, older and more likely to have underlying health conditions that put them at risk for severe COVID-19 outcomes.

Already mentioned in this thread. My father passed away four months ago, at 84. Fully vaccinated and boosted, his death had nothing to do with Covid. I mean this thread is beyond stupid.

It would be a misrepresentation of the finding to say it is evidence against vaccination. This finding actually underscores the importance of staying up-to-date on boosters.

According to CDC, people ages 12 and older who have had a bivalent booster shot have a 15 times lower risk of death than an unvaccinated person.

I mean you see that shit? The article linked in the OP clearly states, it would be a misrepresentation to use these findings to claim it is against vaccination, and yet that is precisely what some stupid shit does. I mean it is common damn sense. If four out of five Americans are vaccinated, then four out of five people that die are probably vaccinated. Except it ain't even close to that shit. It is like three out of five. So all you anti-vaxers, you are the one extra. Five people die. Three are fully vaxed, but one out of every five people that die, die because they are STUPID ASS SHITS and not vaxed. That is what the numbers show, you flippin morons have no damn clue. Chalk it up to Darwinism, you dumbfawks will be gone soon enough.

 

[Catsnmeters]

what did trump do??

You don't know?

He threw socialist money at big pharma to fast track a vaccine, against the advice of Fauci, and now that vaccine is seemingly a failure. I gotta think we need to follow the money.

To be honest I am a bit surprised Trump himself hasn't spoken out against these attacks. Usually he is not afraid to defend himself.

 

[progressive hunter]

You don't know?

He threw socialist money at big pharma to fast track a vaccine, against the advice of Fauci, and now that vaccine is seemingly a failure. I gotta think we need to follow the money.

To be honest I am a bit surprised Trump himself hasn't spoken out against these attacks. Usually he is not afraid to defend himself.

he fast tracked a vaccine and this isnt even a vaccine,,
didnt know fauci was against it,,

 

[sparky]

I mean this thread is beyond stupid.

die because they are STUPID ASS SHITS and not vaxed.

you flippin morons have no damn clue.

having a bad day Winston?

~S~