Iceweasel
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Maybe because he respects marriage more?If you respect homosexuals, why wouldn't you respect their rights to be married?
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Maybe because he respects marriage more?If you respect homosexuals, why wouldn't you respect their rights to be married?
Keep in mind that Stutzman does not refuse service to gay people. Indeed she had been selling flowers to this gay couple for nine years. She has also employed gay people in her flower shop. She had a friendship with the man suing her and cared for him personally and wished for her relationship with him to continue. She simply could not defy her conscience and lend her creative talent to help celebrate what her faith says she cannot celebrate. She had no idea that staying true to her faith would end up threatening her entire livelihood and savings.
Why not have the gay people who work in her shop do it then. Talk about hypocritical. I can take your money for flowers but if you get married don't come to me. Now I am anti gay marriage, but where do we draw the line.
I also have a problem with the gay man who sued her I guess, why not just go elsewhere? Why can't gays realize that while straight people still like them, we have an issue with them marrying? Why not go to a gay flower shop instead of making problems for this woman.
Maybe because he respects marriage more?If you respect homosexuals, why wouldn't you respect their rights to be married?
People have died for less.Is it really possible to respect marriage more than a human being?
People have died for less.Is it really possible to respect marriage more than a human being?
Can a gay person refuse to work for a heterosexual organization? Can they only cater to gays? This lady is simply refusing to be work at a gay wedding. That in no way causes harm to gays, she is only causing to her business & herself, unless serving gays cost her to lose more hetro business.
Political correctness has become more important than freedom of association and religion.What happened to separation of church and state?
What happened to "we have the right to refuse service to anyone"?
Political correctness has become more important than freedom of association and religion.What happened to separation of church and state?
What happened to "we have the right to refuse service to anyone"?
What happened to separation of church and state?
What happened to "we have the right to refuse service to anyone"?
I am talking the abnormality of being gay.The laws were written to force people to except abnormal behavior.She is being harassed,intimidated and forced at the point of a gun to give up her livelihood,home and savings...If I was her I would remove ALL savings from bank and leave the state and or country if I could...it doesn't surprise me the gay brigade supporters are trying to rationalize this and make it seem OK.Its these cases where I wish I owned a business. Let the faggots sue me. My business,I can deny service to anyone if I so choose. And there was no "discrimination" if there was "discrimination" she would have NEVER sold them flowers...for any reason.As usual the faggots are trying to force everyone to accept their lifestyle and in reality all they are doing is making more enemies.A florist loses religious freedom and much more - CNN.com
You let it happen America...the fag brigade backed by the fed gov are now attacking 70 year old grandmothers for not condoning their degeneracy
She is being sued because of her violation of anti-discrimination laws.
Nobody is forcing her to accept a damn thing. There are anti-discrimination laws. If you disagree with them, then work to get them changed or removed. If you own a business you follow the laws or you pay. It is that simple.
She was not asked to condone or celebrate a gay marriage. She had sold them flowers before, so her moral high ground was already gone. The fact that she is a 70 year old grandmother is not relevant at all.
Well, lucky for you.
God forbids it, that is why.I disagree, I believe gay marriage is against her religion, as it is against mine. Yet I respect homosexuals as much as I do heterosexuals, for it is not any of my business to what they do in their own homes, yet when they promote homosexual acts, they make it my business. There is a reason why adulterers hide their acts from as many people as possible, you know, and yes, a sin is a sin, and homosexual acts are every bit a sin, as a married person cheating on their spouse, but, being a homosexual is no more a sin, than being a widow is.Nobody is forcing her to do anything but if she doesn't do them she will pay hell for it. How does that makes sense to you? Just because government has passed laws it doesn't make them right. There's no hypocrisy to selling flowers to gays but not for a wedding if you believe marriage is a holy union. Your contributing to the marriage is an endorsement of the event.Nobody is forcing her to accept a damn thing. There are anti-discrimination laws. If you disagree with them, then work to get them changed or removed. If you own a business you follow the laws or you pay. It is that simple.
She was not asked to condone or celebrate a gay marriage. She had sold them flowers before, so her moral high ground was already gone. The fact that she is a 70 year old grandmother is not relevant at all.
Government is too involved with our lives, we need to trim it down back to a manageable level.
Gay marriage is not against her religion. It is homosexuality that is against her religion. But she didn't have a problem with that before.
Either she follows the laws or she catches hell for breaking them. No, it does not make it right. But it does make it the law of the land.
As far as discrimination goes, if a business says no guns, are they not discriminating against legal gun owners with concealed carry permits?
If you respect homosexuals, why wouldn't you respect their rights to be married?
because marriage is a union between a man and a woman.I disagree, I believe gay marriage is against her religion, as it is against mine. Yet I respect homosexuals as much as I do heterosexuals, for it is not any of my business to what they do in their own homes, yet when they promote homosexual acts, they make it my business. There is a reason why adulterers hide their acts from as many people as possible, you know, and yes, a sin is a sin, and homosexual acts are every bit a sin, as a married person cheating on their spouse, but, being a homosexual is no more a sin, than being a widow is.Nobody is forcing her to do anything but if she doesn't do them she will pay hell for it. How does that makes sense to you? Just because government has passed laws it doesn't make them right. There's no hypocrisy to selling flowers to gays but not for a wedding if you believe marriage is a holy union. Your contributing to the marriage is an endorsement of the event.Nobody is forcing her to accept a damn thing. There are anti-discrimination laws. If you disagree with them, then work to get them changed or removed. If you own a business you follow the laws or you pay. It is that simple.
She was not asked to condone or celebrate a gay marriage. She had sold them flowers before, so her moral high ground was already gone. The fact that she is a 70 year old grandmother is not relevant at all.
Government is too involved with our lives, we need to trim it down back to a manageable level.
Gay marriage is not against her religion. It is homosexuality that is against her religion. But she didn't have a problem with that before.
Either she follows the laws or she catches hell for breaking them. No, it does not make it right. But it does make it the law of the land.
As far as discrimination goes, if a business says no guns, are they not discriminating against legal gun owners with concealed carry permits?
If you respect homosexuals, why wouldn't you respect their rights to be married?
It means wars have been fought, for less important matters, than what some of us believe to be a holy union, between a man and a woman, and witnessed, and sanctified by God.People have died for less.Is it really possible to respect marriage more than a human being?
I don't know what that means