70% Of The Vaccinated Catch Delta Variant

[Faun]

When the numbers go down they go down. When the numbers go up they go up. What did Trump get wrong and Biden got right? Vaccinations. But, the vaccines weren't around when Trump was president so he couldn't have gotten that wrong.

Asking me questions in lieu of answering mine reveals you made up that claim about the Texas & Florida governors.

 

[Faun]

No millions would not die.
We have been over this many times.

If you take Fauci's numbers, then 70% of the population would have to be infected in order to achieve 70%
And he used a 1% lethality figure.
So 1% of 231 million would be 2.3 million deaths.
But he knew that was

So where did Fauci go wrong, since clearly covid is not unusual, and yet no usual virus ever kills that many when ending with herd immunity?

His first mistake was assuming no one had immunity already inherently.
The vast number of asymptomatic means most people do already have some degree of inherent immunity.
In fact, more than half the population does, especially those under 18.
(There are people claiming kids do not have immunity but the numbers do not lie, and the total deaths in the US under 18, is 464.)

COVID-19 deaths by age U.S. 2023 | Statista

Between the beginning of January 2020 and June 14, 2023, of the 1,134,641 deaths caused by COVID-19 in the United States, around 307,169 had occurred among those aged 85 years and older.

www.statista.com

And then as long as we are going to differentiate by age, we can easily see that those under 40 have about a 400 times lower death rate than those who are dying the most, those over 70.
So if you only deliberately use variolation on those under 40, you reduce the death toll by a factor of 400.
So then Fauci's 2.3 million turns into only about 6,000.
It is actually far lower than that for various reasons, but there is no need to argue.
Clearly we should have encouraged variolation immediately last March, and used the initial spike to quickly end it.
We could not only have saved over half a million lives in the US alone, but we would have ended it forever, without any variant worries.

Again, you prove to be too retarded to bother discussing this with.

Claiming less than 6000 would die if we intentionally infected people reveals that.

 

[Rye Catcher]

In other words, the vaccinated spread the virus.

In your words, Dr. Fraud; not the epidemiologists.

 

[Rye Catcher]

The vaccinated are the super spreaders, since they experience fewer symptoms. Since they experience fewer symptoms, they unknowingly spread Sars cov 2

Post a credible source for this claim. Your opinion is not credible.

 

[Rye Catcher]

But the vaccinated die too and the vaccinated spread the virus not only to other vaccinateds but to young children, who also die.

More opinions without evidence. Your opinions are never credible.

 

[Catman51]

Um no. They are not all made by medical professionals. Anyone can make a report, including the patient themself. And the criteria for making a report has nothing at all to do with the healthcare worker finding the death "mysterious." They are specifically required to report ALL deaths following vaccination because the vaccines are only authorized for emergency usage. Normally the criteria would not be this broad, and a lot more strict. If the CDC finds anything unusual they will investigate it.

How does that Kool-Aid taste?

 

[Catman51]

Still can't get beyond using family pictures of yourself for an answer? Keep trying puppy puppet.

 

[Catman51]

More opinions without evidence. Your opinions are never credible.

Are you claiming that if you get the shot you will never die? It certainly seems so.

 

[Catman51]

Asking me questions in lieu of answering mine reveals you made up that claim about the Texas & Florida governors.

Or did you, since you refuse to answer any questions posed to you?

 

[Catman51]

Unknown if that's going to be an issue. What is known, is covid is deadly.

So is crossing the street and mouthing off to the wrong people.

 

[Rigby5]

Asked and answered.

Wrong.
If we had used proper treatments, then covid would have killed no one.
And the deaths from these fake mRNA vaccines may not be known for generations.
They can be storing their harm in T-cell memory.
We already have autoimmune harm like Lupus, arthritis, diabetes, HIV, autism, etc.
This could greatly increase the problems.

 

[Rigby5]

Because, as has been explained to you, unvaxxed spread it more. Not to mention, vaxxed have better protection from the virus, so even if they catch it at an event like a football game, they're more likely to fight off the virus than someone who's unvaxxed.

Wrong.
The fact those vaccinated are less symptomatic means they are much more likely to spread it more.

 

[Rigby5]

Again, you prove to be too retarded to bother discussing this with.

Claiming less than 6000 would die if we intentionally infected people reveals that.

I never claimed less than 6000 would die if we intentionally infected people.
I was showing how far off Fauci's calculations were.
Since over 30k had already died before we could even get started on some sort of herd immunity program, obviously the final total would be higher than that.
The point is you have to include the age differential into any calculations.
For example, only 462 under the age of 18 have died so far.
Which means the young have a huge advantage in resistance.
So if you concentrate deliberate infection to those under 40, you cause deliberate variolation to have an very minor death total.
Far lower than letting the epidemic continue on forever.

 

[Independent thinker]

Because, as has been explained to you, unvaxxed spread it more. Not to mention, vaxxed have better protection from the virus, so even if they catch it at an event like a football game, they're more likely to fight off the virus than someone who's unvaxxed.

The unvaxxed do NOT spread it more. When it comes to the spread, there is no benefit to the vaccines. Both the vaccinated and the unvaccinated spread the virus. That's why cases are surging in the most highly vaccinated countries in the world.

 

[Independent thinker]

In your words, Dr. Fraud; not the epidemiologists.

Not Dr. Fraud, Rachelle Walensky from the CDC and the studies from experts she cites. Why do you deny science?

"Today, some of those data were published in CDC’s Morbidity and Mortality Weekly Report (MMWR), demonstrating that Delta infection resulted in similarly high SARS-CoV-2 viral loads in vaccinated and unvaccinated people."

CDC Newsroom

Press releases, advisories, telebriefings, transcripts and archives.

www.cdc.gov

 

[Independent thinker]

More opinions without evidence. Your opinions are never credible.

LOL. You deny that vaccinated people spread the virus to others, including other vaccinated and young children? You deny that children die of Covid? You deny that vaccinated people die of Covid? Really?

 

[Catman51]

LOL. You deny that vaccinated people spread the virus to others, including other vaccinated and young children? You deny that children die of Covid? You deny that vaccinated people die of Covid? Really?

You deny that most people who contract this virus survive? With or without the shots? What world do you live in?

 

[Dirk the Daring]

We can't help it. At least we are vaccinated and not dying when we get it. You are. And I love it.

Proof that one doesn't need to be infected with a virus to be a sick individual.

 

[Dirk the Daring]

Why does the left say that over 700,00 people have died from the virus and only less than one percent have died from the vaccine instead of saying that over 8,000 people have died from the vaccine and only .22% of Americans have died from the virus?

Scary numbers are scary!

 

[krichton]

What is the point of reporting over 8000 deaths if no one is going to investigate?

If a pattern emerges from the reports that is out of the ordinary, like myocarditis which they've had several hundred cases of, then a thorough investigation is conducted. Blood clots in a tiny minority of ppl have also emerged. This side effect is a lot rarer, but when there were 6 cases of it, the CDC investigated and paused J&J usage. This is what VAERS has given the CDC an insight into. VAERS is not for the purposes of chasing down every single report, especially when they can't even be verified for truthfulness.