70% Of The Vaccinated Catch Delta Variant

[Catman51]

Look up to see me?

While I can understand the sentiment given the relationship you need not elevate me above mere men.
Just being my bitch is enough.

Your fantasy and lies are showing again. You said "up" in an obvious lie exposing your inferiority for all to see.

The only thing that you own is depths of your hate and envy.

 

[krichton]

If these people died from other things don't you think the CDC has a duty to investigate and tell us what these people died from? These are not people who fell down the stairs shortly after vaccination or were in car crashes. Most all of these reports were made by medical professionals who found the deaths mysterious, not simply a list of everyone who died after being vaccinated. Why isn't the CDC finding out the exact causes of death? Many of these died months ago. There are not that many people who die from mysterious circumstances.

Um no. They are not all made by medical professionals. Anyone can make a report, including the patient themself. And the criteria for making a report has nothing at all to do with the healthcare worker finding the death "mysterious." They are specifically required to report ALL deaths following vaccination because the vaccines are only authorized for emergency usage. Normally the criteria would not be this broad, and a lot more strict. If the CDC finds anything unusual they will investigate it.

 

[Faun]

I just want the left to admit the truth that over 8000 people in the US alone have died from the vaccines and tens of thousands of people have had severe adverse reactions to the vaccines.

Why is it that the left want to talk about 711,222 in the US have died from the virus but only 0.0021% have died from the vaccines?

Why don't they report that 8,164 people have died from the vaccines but only .22% of Americans have died from the virus?

Answer: It doesn't fit their agenda.

For one, 8000 out of some 390 million jabs is very small. Americans have about a 100 times greater chance of dying from covid than from the vaccine.

Why would anyone risk those odds?

 

[Faun]

The vaccinated are spreading the virus!

So are the unvaccinated.

 

[Faun]

LOL. Yes, cases are going down in Florida and Texas. Those governors are doing a bang up job, don't you think?

Florida maybe. But Texas? They're still up there. So what did those governors do to curb the virus?

 

[Faun]

So, puppy puppet, you are saying that Covid is not nearly as deadly as you on the left would have the world believe. It is scientific lies to claim otherwise, by your own supplied statistics. Also, it is not as if we all will never die if we bend to your leftist will. As a matter of fact, if the government keeps pushing there will likely be a sharp increase in deaths, and not from the virus.

 

[Rigby5]

For one, 8000 out of some 390 million jabs is very small. Americans have about a 100 times greater chance of dying from covid than from the vaccine.

Why would anyone risk those odds?

Again, it is wrong to only count those that immediately die.
The fake mRNA injection does not necessarily kill right away, but stores bad programming in the memory of T-cells, that can cause a deadly autoimmune response decades later.
Our own exosomes also use the same spike proteins in order to access the same ACE2 receptors in the cells, so then it is very likely these fake mRNA injections will cause our own exosomes to trigger a deadly response.

 

[Faun]

Again, it is wrong to only count those that immediately die.
The fake mRNA injection does not necessarily kill right away, but stores bad programming in the memory of T-cells, that can cause a deadly autoimmune response decades later.
Our own exosomes also use the same spike proteins in order to access the same ACE2 receptors in the cells, so then it is very likely these fake mRNA injections will cause our own exosomes to trigger a deadly response.

Unknown if that's going to be an issue. What is known, is covid is deadly.

 

[Rigby5]

So are the unvaccinated.

So then obviously the only way to end the epidemic is to achieve herd immunity through deliberate infection of those least likely to be harmed.
It would the be over in 2 weeks. And we can do it any time.
Recovery immunity is real and lasting.

 

[Faun]

So then obviously the only way to end the epidemic is to achieve herd immunity through deliberate infection of those least likely to be harmed.
It would the be over in 2 weeks. And we can do it any time.
Recovery immunity is real and lasting.

And millions would die.

 

[Rigby5]

Unknown if that's going to be an issue. What is known, is covid is deadly.

No its not.
Covid has never once killed a single person.
The ONLY people who have died have been killed by an over active response by their own immune system, which should be easy to treat and prevent.
When your lungs fill with lymph and you drown intubated on a respirator, that has nothing at all to do with covid-19.
And we know how to prevent all those suffocation deaths.
All you have to do is drain the fluid from the lungs by constantly rotating them, especially face down and head lower than feet.

 

[Faun]

No its not.
Covid has never once killed a single person.
The ONLY people who have died have been killed by an over active response by their own immune system, which should be easy to treat and prevent.
When your lungs fill with lymph and you drown intubated on a respirator, that has nothing at all to do with covid-19.
And we know how to prevent all those suffocation deaths.
All you have to do is drain the fluid from the lungs by constantly rotating them, especially face down and head lower than feet.

Fuck off. You're too stupid.

 

[Independent thinker]

Um no. They are not all made by medical professionals. Anyone can make a report, including the patient themself. And the criteria for making a report has nothing at all to do with the healthcare worker finding the death "mysterious." They are specifically required to report ALL deaths following vaccination because the vaccines are only authorized for emergency usage. Normally the criteria would not be this broad, and a lot more strict. If the CDC finds anything unusual they will investigate it.

What is the point of reporting over 8000 deaths if no one is going to investigate?

 

[Independent thinker]

For one, 8000 out of some 390 million jabs is very small. Americans have about a 100 times greater chance of dying from covid than from the vaccine.

Why would anyone risk those odds?

Why does the left say that over 700,00 people have died from the virus and only less than one percent have died from the vaccine instead of saying that over 8,000 people have died from the vaccine and only .22% of Americans have died from the virus?

 

[Independent thinker]

So are the unvaccinated.

That's the point. BOTH the vaccinated and the unvaccinated spread the virus so why say that it is the unvaccinated who are spreading the virus when the vaccinated are spreading it to? Why keep out the unvaccinated from a football stadium but allow in 80,000 fully vaccinated who spread the virus? Why fire health care workers for not being vaccinated when the vaccinated health care workers are also spreading the virus? In fact, you could very easily argue that an unvaccinated health care worker who gets tested every week is actually far less likely to spread the virus than a vaccinated health care worker who doesn't get tested.

 

[krichton]

Not true. It doesn't matter when people start showing symptoms, if they develop symptoms at all. People who've been vaccinated will still fight it off quicker. The shorter it's in someone's body, the less chance of spreading it. Especially for those who are asymptomatic.

in point of fact, the vaccinated begins to clear out the virus after day 7 generally speaking. This is not the case if you're unvaccinated. A large study done have also shown that the vaccinated carry a lower viral load on average, although with something like delta a lower viral load may not mean that much since it's still high enough to easily trasmit it.

 

[Independent thinker]

Florida maybe. But Texas? They're still up there. So what did those governors do to curb the virus?

When the numbers go down they go down. When the numbers go up they go up. What did Trump get wrong and Biden got right? Vaccinations. But, the vaccines weren't around when Trump was president so he couldn't have gotten that wrong.

 

[Rigby5]

And millions would die.

No millions would not die.
We have been over this many times.

If you take Fauci's numbers, then 70% of the population would have to be infected in order to achieve 70%
And he used a 1% lethality figure.
So 1% of 231 million would be 2.3 million deaths.
But he knew that was

So where did Fauci go wrong, since clearly covid is not unusual, and yet no usual virus ever kills that many when ending with herd immunity?

His first mistake was assuming no one had immunity already inherently.
The vast number of asymptomatic means most people do already have some degree of inherent immunity.
In fact, more than half the population does, especially those under 18.
(There are people claiming kids do not have immunity but the numbers do not lie, and the total deaths in the US under 18, is 464.)

COVID-19 deaths by age U.S. 2023 | Statista

Between the beginning of January 2020 and June 14, 2023, of the 1,134,641 deaths caused by COVID-19 in the United States, around 307,169 had occurred among those aged 85 years and older.

www.statista.com

And then as long as we are going to differentiate by age, we can easily see that those under 40 have about a 400 times lower death rate than those who are dying the most, those over 70.
So if you only deliberately use variolation on those under 40, you reduce the death toll by a factor of 400.
So then Fauci's 2.3 million turns into only about 6,000.
It is actually far lower than that for various reasons, but there is no need to argue.
Clearly we should have encouraged variolation immediately last March, and used the initial spike to quickly end it.
We could not only have saved over half a million lives in the US alone, but we would have ended it forever, without any variant worries.

 

[Faun]

Why does the left say that over 700,00 people have died from the virus and only less than one percent have died from the vaccine instead of saying that over 8,000 people have died from the vaccine and only .22% of Americans have died from the virus?

Asked and answered.

 

[Faun]

That's the point. BOTH the vaccinated and the unvaccinated spread the virus so why say that it is the unvaccinated who are spreading the virus when the vaccinated are spreading it to? Why keep out the unvaccinated from a football stadium but allow in 80,000 fully vaccinated who spread the virus? Why fire health care workers for not being vaccinated when the vaccinated health care workers are also spreading the virus? In fact, you could very easily argue that an unvaccinated health care worker who gets tested every week is actually far less likely to spread the virus than a vaccinated health care worker who doesn't get tested.

Because, as has been explained to you, unvaxxed spread it more. Not to mention, vaxxed have better protection from the virus, so even if they catch it at an event like a football game, they're more likely to fight off the virus than someone who's unvaxxed.