7 in 10 Americans oppose data centers built near where they live

[Mushroom]

I just thought I would "throw" this in. A brief history of the Luddites.

And to make the Neo-Luddites happy, I specifically looked for one that did not incorporate AI in the making of it other than the actual video editing.

 

[initforme]

OK, let's imagine that this is Wilmington, North Carolina. And everybody there just loves Pepsi, and does not want a Coca-Cola bottler opening up because they will compete with their favorite brand. Or that the majority of people are Baptist or Mormons, and do not want to allow a new Budweiser bottling plant because they are opposed to alcohol.

Exactly how much control do we give up to a "Government"?

This is exactly what makes many HOAs a nightmare. Where you buy a house in one, and suddenly they decide that you parking your own work truck with "ABC Plumbing" on the side is a "commercial" and you are not allowed to have advertising in your driveway.

What about the rights of those that buy that land and want to build on it, are you free with trampling on their rights?

One has to be extremely careful of the use of "rights", because that is a two-way street. It seems you actually are in favor of trampling on the rights of people, so long as they are not "your people".

Build them in the desert. Problem solved

 

[Zincwarrior]

Build them in the desert. Problem solved

No. They need massive amounts of water and power. Thats literally the actual problem.

They need to be in places with lots of both, not rural communities with neither. Thats the only issue.

 

[fncceo]

Because 70% of all people polled couldn’t tell at sight a data center from a warehouse for storing spare parts for sex dolls.

We are, as a species, easily swayed by panicky prognosticators who we so much want to believe really know what’s going on.

 

[Zincwarrior]

Because 70% of all people polled couldn’t tell at sight a data center from a warehouse for storing spare parts for sex dolls.

We are, as a species, easily swayed by panicky prognosticators who we so much want to believe really know what’s going on.

They can tell when they run low on water and their power bill jumps.

 

[initforme]

No. They need massive amounts of water and power. Thats literally the actual problem.

They need to be in places with lots of both, not rural communities with neither. Thats the only issue.

Let them pay for their water. Dig a well in the desert.

 

[initforme]

What do data centers matter as opposed to an auto factory? Is it only the power and water issue?

Let them drill for water. Miles and miles away from people.

 

[Zincwarrior]

Let them pay for their water. Dig a well in the desert.

That's the problem. 1) they don't; 2) they try to build them where there isn't water.

 

[Chuz Life]

With all the empty buildings around, why do they need to build new for data centers?

I've been in several for Fidelty and others. It's not like they require virgin soil.

 

[Dekster]

I oppose them because they consistently drive up the cost of electricity for customers in the surrounding community who have to subsidize the data center's infrastructure and/or consumption. Other than that, I would be okay with them building one literally right beside my property. At least then I wouldn't have to worry about some developer or the gubbermint developing the land into subsidized housing.

 

[Zincwarrior]

I oppose them because they consistently drive up the cost of electricity for customers in the surrounding community who have to subsidize the data center's infrastructure and/or consumption. Other than that, I would be okay with them building one literally right beside my property. At least then I wouldn't have to worry about some developer or the gubbermint developing the land into subsidized housing.

Exactly.

 

[initforme]

I oppose them because they consistently drive up the cost of electricity for customers in the surrounding community who have to subsidize the data center's infrastructure and/or consumption. Other than that, I would be okay with them building one literally right beside my property. At least then I wouldn't have to worry about some developer or the gubbermint developing the land into subsidized housing.

If they want to build charge them outrageously high prices.

 

[fncceo]

They can tell when they run low on water and their power bill jumps.

You do get that water cooling doesn’t actually drink the water, right?

A river loses more to evaporation than a cooling system.

 

[jacksonlamb]

Yes, which is enacted via things like zoning laws. I can see not putting things like a paint factory next to a residential neighborhood, this is why we zone industrial different than we do residential. And even zone light industrial different than heavy industrial.

But wanting to babysit every little thing, that is not "representation", that is "nanny state" and NIMBYism.

IYSS

 

[Zincwarrior]

You do get that water cooling doesn’t actually drink the water, right?

A river loses more to evaporation than a cooling system.

NOT IF THERE IS NO RIVER.

 

[Gary Seven]

There are MILES of desert and other places where data centers could be built underground and not even be noticed much. That environment would even enable them to partially use solar power to boost their efficiency without tapping into the grid as much.

 

[Mushroom]

They can tell when they run low on water and their power bill jumps.

And where has that happened?

 

[Nobody911]

Think of AI like a car:

Pros — it gets you places faster. It can do boring driving for you, help you carry heavy stuff, and open up new trips you couldn’t take before. Good for business, saves time, and can make life easier.

Cons — it can crash if you’re not careful. Jobs that drive or do routine work can get replaced, and whoever owns the car calls a lot of the shots. It eats fuel (energy), needs upkeep, and if you hand the keys to the wrong person it can do real damage.

Bottom line: AI’s a powerful ride — awesome when driven responsibly, dangerous when left in the hands of the careless or greedy. We need rules, training, and good maintenance so everyone can ride safely.

 

[Zincwarrior]

And where has that happened?

Texas, Dipshit.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Let them drill for water. Miles and miles away from people.

You need to reread the question. Would you oppose it if water and power were not an issue. Get with it Methusaleh?