50 days grace period? What kind of a sanction is that?

[The Sage of Main Street]

All the Trump Haters are such great arm chair quarterbacks. Lets hear what YOUR solution is to Putin the Psychopath?

Get Out of NYETO

 

[blackhawk]

You gotta love all the keyboard Rambo’s.

 

[Man With A Plan]

You did not answer the OP question:

Is a 50-day grace period justified after seeing all the facts stated above?

Trump is doing everything he can NOT to escalate the situation but you on the left can't see that! He's putting pressure on Putin economically so that he doesn't have to provide more weapons to kill more people. I can remember when liberals were against wars. Now you want them to go on forever.

 

[Man With A Plan]

No, he is no longer "giving" anything. He is selling arms to NATO who in turn are giving them to Ukraine.

Do you read the news?

So it was better somehow when we were just giving Billions of dollars in arms to Ukraine for free? Why?

 

[Correll]

Trump "finally" talked a strong game against Putin, criticizing Putin's continuing attacks on Ukrainian's innocent people and lack of desire to have peace talks. Trump stated:



and he followed that up by stating that he would:

Trump threatens tariffs targeting Russia without deal to end Ukraine war in 50 days​

That all sounds great BUT.....................50 day "grace" period?

To begin with (which we all know), he promised to end the war in 24 hours...............that did not happen. Then on February 12th (4 months ago) he started urging Putin to come to the table to have peace talks.............that did not happen. In the meantime, he has stated that it is Zelensky that is being unreasonable and threatening him to withdraw our support..................Zelensky in return, signed a rare earth deal that would give us natural ore in return for support.......................that did happen.

Then Hegseth made a decision to not send arms to Ukraine and Trump pooh-poohed that decision.

and now, this war has another 50 days to continue without any action on our part?

and here is reality:

The number of civilian casualties (killed and injured) reportedly almost doubled in the second quarter of 2025 compared to the first.

AI Overview
Casualties in the Russia-Ukraine war (past 4 months)

• June 2025: 232 people killed.
• May 2025: 183 civilians killed.
• April 2025: 209 civilians killed.

So now Putin has the ability to kill another 400+ innocent civilians before he is due to face sanctions against him?

Is a 50-day grace period justified after seeing all the facts stated above?

Those numbers are seem shockingly low.

If true that does imply that Russia is waging a.... surprising... NOT AS BRUTAL as I expected.

 

[Deplorable Yankee]

All the Trump Haters are such great arm chair quarterbacks. Lets hear what YOUR solution is to Putin the Psychopath?

It should be good since they're the ones who cheered this war on from the get go

 

[Independent thinker]

No, he is no longer "giving" anything. He is selling arms to NATO who in turn are giving them to Ukraine.

Do you read the news?

Yes, that's great, isn't it? Ukraine gets arms and we don't lose a dime from it. That's the way it should be.

 

[Luckyone]

Yes, that's great, isn't it? Ukraine gets arms and we don't lose a dime from it. That's the way it should be.

So once again, this is about money, right? If you have it, you succeed and if you do not have it, you are thrown in the trash.

You do love and respect the rich, don't you?

 

[Luckyone]

So it was better somehow when we were just giving Billions of dollars in arms to Ukraine for free? Why?

I do not say that trading with Ukraine is bad. What I am saying is that we (and NATO) have been "giving (without asking anything in return)" to Ukraine since 2022, in order to support the idea that Freedom is a right that we all have. We have been the one country in the world that was the top Representative of that right for the past 240+ years.

Now we have become (in the eyes of the world) a country that represents greed and corruption and no longer a country that can be depended on to stand up for Human Rights.

 

[frigidweirdo]

Trump "finally" talked a strong game against Putin, criticizing Putin's continuing attacks on Ukrainian's innocent people and lack of desire to have peace talks. Trump stated:



and he followed that up by stating that he would:

Trump threatens tariffs targeting Russia without deal to end Ukraine war in 50 days​

That all sounds great BUT.....................50 day "grace" period?

To begin with (which we all know), he promised to end the war in 24 hours...............that did not happen. Then on February 12th (4 months ago) he started urging Putin to come to the table to have peace talks.............that did not happen. In the meantime, he has stated that it is Zelensky that is being unreasonable and threatening him to withdraw our support..................Zelensky in return, signed a rare earth deal that would give us natural ore in return for support.......................that did happen.

Then Hegseth made a decision to not send arms to Ukraine and Trump pooh-poohed that decision.

and now, this war has another 50 days to continue without any action on our part?

and here is reality:

The number of civilian casualties (killed and injured) reportedly almost doubled in the second quarter of 2025 compared to the first.

AI Overview
Casualties in the Russia-Ukraine war (past 4 months)

• June 2025: 232 people killed.
• May 2025: 183 civilians killed.
• April 2025: 209 civilians killed.

So now Putin has the ability to kill another 400+ innocent civilians before he is due to face sanctions against him?

Is a 50-day grace period justified after seeing all the facts stated above?

Trump thinks he's being smart, giving Putin time to "do the right thing", but Putin just laughed at Trump.

 

[Zincwarrior]

Get Out of NYETO

We should definitely get out of NYETO.

 

[frigidweirdo]

I do not say that trading with Ukraine is bad. What I am saying is that we (and NATO) have been "giving (without asking anything in return)" to Ukraine since 2022, in order to support the idea that Freedom is a right that we all have. We have been the one country in the world that was the top Representative of that right for the past 240+ years.

Now we have become (in the eyes of the world) a country that represents greed and corruption and no longer a country that can be depended on to stand up for Human Rights.

It never has been a country that can be depended on to stand up for Human Rights.

When did the US get involved in the DRC? Never, the US was willing to take the products of the DRC, but didn't care who got killed there.

It only "cares" when a country happens to have loads of oil.

 

[Luckyone]

Trump is doing everything he can NOT to escalate the situation but you on the left can't see that! He's putting pressure on Putin economically so that he doesn't have to provide more weapons to kill more people. I can remember when liberals were against wars. Now you want them to go on forever.

Here is the answer to your post:

From this morning:

Russia launches massive attacks​

Seemingly unfazed by President Donald Trump's 50-day ultimatum to end the fighting, Russia launched hundreds of drones and missile strikes on six Ukrainian regions overnight, officials in the country said.

A child was among at least two people killed and 25 people were injured in the strikes in northern, central and southern Ukraine, according to a statement on Telegram from the Ukrainian air force and data collated by regional military administrations.

 

[Luckyone]

It never has been a country that can be depended on to stand up for Human Rights.

When did the US get involved in the DRC? Never, the US was willing to take the products of the DRC, but didn't care who got killed there.

It only "cares" when a country happens to have loads of oil.

AI Overview


The idea of the United States as a representative of human rights is rooted in its founding documents and principles.
.
Here's a breakdown of how this concept developed:

• Founding principles: The Declaration of Independence, adopted in 1776, articulated the idea of inherent human rights, stating that "all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness". While this was a powerful statement of ideals, it's important to acknowledge that it didn't immediately translate to equality for all, particularly for enslaved people and women.
• Evolution of rights: The U.S. Constitution and its amendments, particularly the Bill of Rights (ratified in 1791), further enshrined civil and political rights and liberties. However, the scope of these rights and the portion of the population granted them has expanded over time through constitutional amendments, legislation (like the Civil Rights Act of 1964), and judicial precedent. For example, women's suffrage was secured with the 19th Amendment in 1920.

 

[Nostra]

Here is the answer to your post:

From this morning:

Russia launches massive attacks​

Seemingly unfazed by President Donald Trump's 50-day ultimatum to end the fighting, Russia launched hundreds of drones and missile strikes on six Ukrainian regions overnight, officials in the country said.

A child was among at least two people killed and 25 people were injured in the strikes in northern, central and southern Ukraine, according to a statement on Telegram from the Ukrainian air force and data collated by regional military administrations.

Looks like your Russian hero is gonna get more tariffs.

 

[frigidweirdo]

AI Overview


The idea of the United States as a representative of human rights is rooted in its founding documents and principles.
.
Here's a breakdown of how this concept developed:

• Founding principles: The Declaration of Independence, adopted in 1776, articulated the idea of inherent human rights, stating that "all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness". While this was a powerful statement of ideals, it's important to acknowledge that it didn't immediately translate to equality for all, particularly for enslaved people and women.
• Evolution of rights: The U.S. Constitution and its amendments, particularly the Bill of Rights (ratified in 1791), further enshrined civil and political rights and liberties. However, the scope of these rights and the portion of the population granted them has expanded over time through constitutional amendments, legislation (like the Civil Rights Act of 1964), and judicial precedent. For example, women's suffrage was secured with the 19th Amendment in 1920.

And that's why you don't use AI to answer your questions.

 

[Independent thinker]

So once again, this is about money, right? If you have it, you succeed and if you do not have it, you are thrown in the trash.

You do love and respect the rich, don't you

It's about a country who is 37 trillion dollars in debt not having to be the world's piggy bank. If you want us to defend you then you have to pay for our products and services, which is why the huge majority of NATO has agreed to pay their fair share and Ukraine (or Europe) has to also pay us for their defense. I already know you and democrats don't give a shit about us being 37 trillion dollars in debt.

 

[martybegan]

Giving them ample time to bomb and kill as many in Ukraine. ******* words mean nothing as it's actions that count.

So we should have sent 3-6 Divisions of NATO troops into Ukraine when?

 

[Man With A Plan]

I do not say that trading with Ukraine is bad. What I am saying is that we (and NATO) have been "giving (without asking anything in return)" to Ukraine since 2022, in order to support the idea that Freedom is a right that we all have. We have been the one country in the world that was the top Representative of that right for the past 240+ years.

Now we have become (in the eyes of the world) a country that represents greed and corruption and no longer a country that can be depended on to stand up for Human Rights.

So we're the country that's provided free military protection to much of the "free world" since WWII but you don't think we're dependable now because we demand that other countries pick up part of the tab for that? The truth, Lucky...is that those other countries have been expecting us to keep giving them free military protection while at the same time they've ginned the system so we're getting screwed on trade deals. So you tell me...who's REALLY greedy?

 

[Man With A Plan]

Here is the answer to your post:

From this morning:

Russia launches massive attacks​

Seemingly unfazed by President Donald Trump's 50-day ultimatum to end the fighting, Russia launched hundreds of drones and missile strikes on six Ukrainian regions overnight, officials in the country said.

A child was among at least two people killed and 25 people were injured in the strikes in northern, central and southern Ukraine, according to a statement on Telegram from the Ukrainian air force and data collated by regional military administrations.

Putin will keep right on launching missile strikes as long as he can afford to do so, Lucky. The Russian economy is totally based on the sale of natural gas and oil to other nations. Take away that income and Vlad can't wage war because he doesn't have the MONEY to wage war! Trump understood that in his first term. He kept the price of oil and natural gas low which kept Putin poor. Joe Biden not only told Putin he was OK with a "minor incursion" into Ukraine...his policies drove up the price of oil and natural gas which gave Russia the money to go to war! The war in Ukraine didn't need to happen. It did because we had an idiot in the White House.