50 days grace period? What kind of a sanction is that?

[multivita-man]

Is a 50-day grace period justified after seeing all the facts stated above?

I have no idea whether it's 'justified'.

It doesn't matter.

Russia has won this war. We just haven't accepted it yet.

And no, Donald Trump didn't lose Ukraine. The war was lost long before he took the oath of office for his second term.

 

[Correll]

I have no idea whether it's 'justified'.

It doesn't matter.

....

Libs are all about FRAMING of issues, so they can control the debate.

 

[Man With A Plan]

Biden and the Democrats have zero power right now. The past is the past. Trump a lot of things he has not delivered on!

It's six months in, Lucky and the things that Trump HAS delivered on are actually amazing! I think he'll get a peace treaty done between Russia and Ukraine and I think he'll prevent more bloodshed...bloodshed that Joe Biden's policies unleashed...bloodshed that never should have happened.

 

[Luckyone]

I have no idea whether it's 'justified'.

It doesn't matter.

Russia has won this war. We just haven't accepted it yet.

And no, Donald Trump didn't lose Ukraine. The war was lost long before he took the oath of office for his second term.

If nothing else and due to Biden, it was suppossed to last 1 week and now it in to the 178th week, and it has cost Russia BIG TIME,

 

[multivita-man]

If nothing else and due to Biden, it was suppossed to last 1 week and now it in to the 178th week, and it has cost Russia BIG TIME,

Yeah and?

 

[Man With A Plan]

If nothing else and due to Biden, it was suppossed to last 1 week and now it in to the 178th week, and it has cost Russia BIG TIME,

Biden told Putin he was OK with a "minor incursion" by Russia into Ukraine, Lucky! He literally gave Vlad the OK to invade Ukraine. That's who Joe Biden IS...the worst President ever! Those casualties, on both the Russian and Ukrainian sides? Joe Biden has the blood of those people on his hands!

 

[Luckyone]

Biden told Putin he was OK with a "minor incursion" by Russia into Ukraine, Lucky! He literally gave Vlad the OK to invade Ukraine. That's who Joe Biden IS...the worst President ever! Those casualties, on both the Russian and Ukrainian sides? Joe Biden has the blood of those people on his hands!

BS

 

[Luckyone]

Yeah and?

Russia has paid dearly for its aggression

 

[Man With A Plan]

BS

It was a public quote, Lucky! Biden said it and it literally got hundreds of thousands of people killed. It's things like THAT which is why you don't elect an idiot!

 

[Correll]

Russia has paid dearly for its aggression

And is paying more each day.

 

[22lcidw]

We live in a modern age of social media with instantaneous video technology and got more news reports on TV from Viet Nam in the 1960's than now. Ukraine is nothing to else. Unless it is like Epstein and Diddy and JFK and other things to question.

 

[Luckyone]

It was a public quote, Lucky! Biden said it and it literally got hundreds of thousands of people killed. It's things like THAT which is why you don't elect an idiot!

This is what was ACTUALLY said and it is not what you are saying:

On Wednesday, Biden had predicted Russia would invade Ukraine, but suggested there was a split among NATO members about how to respond if Moscow took action that stopped short of sending its troops across the border — something Biden referred to as a "minor incursion." He said:

"I think what you're going to see is that Russia will be held accountable if it invades. And it depends on what it does. It's one thing if it's a minor incursion and then we end up having a fight about what to do and not do."

You twist things in a way that it misinforms!!!!

Biden NEVER said that it was OK for Putin to invade Ukraine!!!!

 

[Man With A Plan]

This is what was ACTUALLY said and it is not what you are saying:

On Wednesday, Biden had predicted Russia would invade Ukraine, but suggested there was a split among NATO members about how to respond if Moscow took action that stopped short of sending its troops across the border — something Biden referred to as a "minor incursion." He said:



You twist things in a way that it misinforms!!!!

Biden NEVER said that it was OK for Putin to invade Ukraine!!!!

God you're a moron. Do you know what the definition of an "incursion" is? "an invasion or attack, especially a sudden or brief one." When you tell someone you're OK with a minor incursion...you're telling them that you're OK with a minor invasion especially if it's done suddenly!

 

[struth]

Send the Ukrainians a whole lotta shit.

We have been. It’s done nothing

 

[Man With A Plan]

This is what was ACTUALLY said and it is not what you are saying:

On Wednesday, Biden had predicted Russia would invade Ukraine, but suggested there was a split among NATO members about how to respond if Moscow took action that stopped short of sending its troops across the border — something Biden referred to as a "minor incursion." He said:



You twist things in a way that it misinforms!!!!

Biden NEVER said that it was OK for Putin to invade Ukraine!!!!

And for Biden to signal to Putin that NATO was "spilt" about how to respond to an incursion, is akin to waving a red flag in front of a bull.

 

[Luckyone]

And for Biden to signal to Putin that NATO was "spilt" about how to respond to an incursion, is akin to waving a red flag in front of a bull.

 

[Luckyone]

And for Biden to signal to Putin that NATO was "spilt" about how to respond to an incursion, is akin to waving a red flag in front of a bull.

You really only want to see your side of the story.

Your comment is lacking supporting facts.

Here is a supporting fact that makes your comment truly biased:

AI Overview

In summary, the Biden administration allocated
$182.8 billion in emergency funding to support Ukraine and the surrounding region from Russia's invasion in February 2022 through December 2024.

I see this as a "flag of support" and NOT a "red flag"

 

[Luckyone]

God you're a moron. Do you know what the definition of an "incursion" is? "an invasion or attack, especially a sudden or brief one." When you tell someone you're OK with a minor incursion...you're telling them that you're OK with a minor invasion especially if it's done suddenly!

He DID NOT SAY it was okay. He said it might be considered by NATO not to be an invasion but a small incursion (likely to see how Ukraine would respond).

Bid difference. You truly are biased and want to twist words to say what you want them to mean.

 

[The Duke]

Trump "finally" talked a strong game against Putin, criticizing Putin's continuing attacks on Ukrainian's innocent people and lack of desire to have peace talks. Trump stated:



and he followed that up by stating that he would:

Trump threatens tariffs targeting Russia without deal to end Ukraine war in 50 days​

That all sounds great BUT.....................50 day "grace" period?

To begin with (which we all know), he promised to end the war in 24 hours...............that did not happen. Then on February 12th (4 months ago) he started urging Putin to come to the table to have peace talks.............that did not happen. In the meantime, he has stated that it is Zelensky that is being unreasonable and threatening him to withdraw our support..................Zelensky in return, signed a rare earth deal that would give us natural ore in return for support.......................that did happen.

Then Hegseth made a decision to not send arms to Ukraine and Trump pooh-poohed that decision.

and now, this war has another 50 days to continue without any action on our part?

and here is reality:

The number of civilian casualties (killed and injured) reportedly almost doubled in the second quarter of 2025 compared to the first.

AI Overview
Casualties in the Russia-Ukraine war (past 4 months)

• June 2025: 232 people killed.
• May 2025: 183 civilians killed.
• April 2025: 209 civilians killed.

So now Putin has the ability to kill another 400+ innocent civilians before he is due to face sanctions against him?

Is a 50-day grace period justified after seeing all the facts stated above?

A chance to do the right thing or not.
I hope we live through this, because Trump is not ******* around.

 

[Man With A Plan]

He DID NOT SAY it was okay. He said it might be considered by NATO not to be an invasion but a small incursion (likely to see how Ukraine would respond).

Bid difference. You truly are biased and want to twist words to say what you want them to mean.

Putin has troops massed on the Ukraine border and Joe Biden the moron makes a public statement that he's OK with a minor incursion and that if it's more than minor NATO is split as to what their response will be. Are you really so dense that you don't see the message that Vladimir Putin got from that statement?