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I have no need for a pistol round to penetrate body armor at 200 yards. I do not do trick shooting and my 5.56 rifle with M855 ammo will already fill that niche.Some guy on another forum was postulating that the 5.7 round could eventually replace the 9mm Luger......... In who's lifetime..........?
While there are some advantages to the 5.7 round the disadvantages in comparison to the 9mm outweigh them by a wide margin.
Of course the 5.7 AP rounds are reserved exclusively for the military, they cannot be legally sold to civilians which means the standard civilian 5.7 ammo is really nothing more than a souped up .22mag.I have no need for a pistol round to penetrate body armor at 200 yards. I do not do trick shooting and my 5.56 rifle with M855 ammo will already fill that niche.
The 5.7 ammo is 4 times or more then the price of 9mm and less readily available locally. I do not need the flatter trajectory at the ranges I shoot pistol. I know where those rounds are going to go. The pistols in 5.7 are more expensive as newer of design usually is. It sounds like a gimmick at this point in time to attract collectors. If you only take on pistol and one rifle in your bug out bag, it better be a quality 9mm pistol and a 5.56 rifle on an AR frame, as that is what you will be taking off the people that might someday attack you, these being the most most common in the country, or possibly the planet, in the case of the 9mm.Of course the 5.7 AP rounds are reserved exclusively for the military, they cannot be legally sold to civilians which means the standard civilian 5.7 ammo is really nothing more than a souped up .22mag.
The JHPs that were tested functioned dismally.
I have loads recently bought and almost none I "bought off the shelf". Don't go to the big box stores, they are the first to run out, everyone goes there. Go to your local gun stores or just order it online, they have tons available unless you're looking for boutique rounds. You can always check AmmoSeek.com to find the best prices.Sort of a mute point since ya can't find either round on the shelf
it's moot.Sort of a mute point since ya can't find either round on the shelf
You're not going to hit shit at 50 yards with a pistolI suppose it depends on how close you like to shoot your assailant. Me? I'd like to be at least 50 yards away, in which case the 5.7 may serve well in an appropriate long bore weapon. Others may prefer to get up close and personal, in which case the 9 would definitely make a lasting first impression on the unsub.
Or may I suggest both? As you prefer, anyway.
Why do people keep repeating the lie that ammo is not in stock? It may not be in stock at your local big box stores but it's massively available everywhere else especially online.If you think those are hard to come by, try looking for a 32 Winchester special round. Even Winchester won't respond to my requests for cases. Sighh. I guess I'll have to try the 30/30 round, although I've heard they're wildly inaccurate when fired from the slightly larger 32 spcl bore.
[edit: not much ammo in stock, anyway, no matter the caliber]
Uuuuummmm.......... Not ideal, you might miss hitting shit especially if you don't want to literally raise a stink but steel plate targets........You're not going to hit shit at 50 yards with a pistol
The typical self defense shooting is from less than 30 feet
Some guy on another forum was postulating that the 5.7 round could eventually replace the 9mm Luger......... In who's lifetime..........?
While there are some advantages to the 5.7 round the disadvantages in comparison to the 9mm outweigh them by a wide margin.
Uuuuummmm.......... Not ideal, you might miss hitting shit especially if you don't want to literally raise a stink but steel plate targets........
Oh and he removed the sights for shits and giggles. As I stated not ideal but with sights, I'm pretty sure one can hit not only shit but everything else at 50 yards.
Can't every be wrong can ya............... Always have to right........Not an accurate recreation of a self defense situation.
Look it up.Can't every be wrong can ya............... Always have to right........
No shit Sherlock........ You claimed no one could hit shit at 50 yards with a sidearm. I proved that wrong. Heck, I can hit my target every time at 50 yards with a sidearm.Look it up.
Self defense shootings happen on average at distances of less than 10 yards
That's just reality
Uuuuummmm.......... Not ideal, you might miss hitting shit especially if you don't want to literally raise a stink but steel plate targets........
Oh and he removed the sights for shits and giggles. As I stated not ideal but with sights, I'm pretty sure one can hit not only shit but everything else at 50 yards.
I said that in the context of a self defense shootingNo shit Sherlock........ You claimed no one could hit shit at 50 yards with a sidearm. I proved that wrong. Heck, I can hit my target every time at 50 yards with a sidearm.
