48%: The Democratic Party needs to face an ugly reality

[JakeStarkey]

The terms 'marxism' and 'socialism' do not scare Americans and will not help the GOP.

 

[Oddball]

This is just a guess, of course, but somewhere around 48% of those who vote in November will be voting for Donald Trump. Without going into the laundry list of obvious examples or any of the standard talking points, there are certainly plenty of reasons not to. Yet he has a perfectly reasonable chance of winning.

Right now, polls show that about 43% of Americans approve of the job he's doing. This, after everything that has happened, and that number should be a very sobering indication of where this country is right now. Personally, I try to understand how these people can do this, but I still only understand some of it.

Anyway, here's the point: Elections are about contrasts. Choices. How can that many people support this disaster of a person? For many of them, they're looking at the alternative. And when those who provide their information and opinions for them point at things like PC and Identity Politics and Cancel Culture and an overall culture in decay, they can make reasonable points not to vote for the Democratic party. Even with, amazingly, this profoundly damaged person in the White House.

It's certainly too late to make any changes before November, but the Democratic party had a chance to take over the middle, and I don't see that happening. There is no excuse, zero, none, for the race to be this close. Regardless of who wins, the Democrats have too often allowed the wrong voices to represent them. It allows the Trumpsters to tie all the silliest crap coming from the hardcore Left to the milquetoast, feeble Biden.

This should be a learning experience, but I'm doubtful.

Disclaimer already, mac?

What happened to the "Russians are coming"

"Trump's a racist?

"Trump's a dictator"

How about the truth for once. Trump gave this country its self esteem back and you can't fucking stand it.

I think Mac sits around all day waiting for Trump to arrest him and take him to a death camp.

Pretty sure that Hitler does that sort of thingy.

Then there are the endless wars Trump started. Such a bad person that Trump.

Did I mention Trump started Covid and infected and personally murdered millions with it?

TRUMP ATE MY BABBY!!!

 

[Votto]

This is just a guess, of course, but somewhere around 48% of those who vote in November will be voting for Donald Trump. Without going into the laundry list of obvious examples or any of the standard talking points, there are certainly plenty of reasons not to. Yet he has a perfectly reasonable chance of winning.

Right now, polls show that about 43% of Americans approve of the job he's doing. This, after everything that has happened, and that number should be a very sobering indication of where this country is right now. Personally, I try to understand how these people can do this, but I still only understand some of it.

Anyway, here's the point: Elections are about contrasts. Choices. How can that many people support this disaster of a person? For many of them, they're looking at the alternative. And when those who provide their information and opinions for them point at things like PC and Identity Politics and Cancel Culture and an overall culture in decay, they can make reasonable points not to vote for the Democratic party. Even with, amazingly, this profoundly damaged person in the White House.

It's certainly too late to make any changes before November, but the Democratic party had a chance to take over the middle, and I don't see that happening. There is no excuse, zero, none, for the race to be this close. Regardless of who wins, the Democrats have too often a
llowed the wrong voices to represent them. It allows the Trumpsters to tie all the silliest crap coming from the hardcore Left to the milquetoast, feeble Biden.

This should be a learning experience, but I'm doubtful.

The Democrats need to retake control of their party, they need to tell the Neo-Marxists to GTFO because NO Western nation and ESPECIALLY America wants Marxism and wants to collapse Capitalism and replace it with Anarchy and a Communist System.

Why do you continue to use the RED SCARE?

Q. Do you have a clue about what Marxism is?

Q. Do you belief the Democratic Party will actually take over General Motors, Ford and other industries to control the means of production?

If you do I have a bridge for sale cheap, it spans the opening from the Pacific Coast into San Francisco Bay. There is even and Island about a mile west of the bridge, it once was a Federal Prison and I'm sure Trump&Co. will sell it to you.

It's hard to tell exactly what democrats mean, like Bernie Sanders, when he refers to socialism, because he refers to both countries like Sweden and Cuba as if they were one in the same, when they could not be more different.

That is what scares the hell out of people, and rightly so. Then throw in the AOC train wreck who can't even tie their shoes and you are left with a very bad feeling if these demagogues ever take power.

 

[eagle1462010]

The terms 'marxism' and 'socialism' do not scare Americans and will not help the GOP.

 

[WTF19]

Meanwhile, back in reality, the Democrats are beating Trump and his cult like a gong.

Why?

The Democrats offer concrete policies across the board, while the Trump cult offers only fear and hate.

The Democrats act like patriots and decent human beings, while the Trump cult acts like Nazi sociopaths. Q-anon, the current Republican philosophy, is literally a Nazi conspiracy theory repackaged.

We can't save the Republican party. The treason runs too deep there. They simply hate everyone outside of their fascist cult, because the hating gives them a thrill. Pity. The USA needs two parties. Hopefully, a sane conservative party with rise out of the wreckage of the GOP.

you are 1 messed up human being. everything you typed is blatently WRONG.. you described the demoncrats to a t. the treasonists once again are BARRAG o, FAT hill-ary, BEIJING joe, no help at the dog salon pill-osi and ITS hemorrhoid schumer

 

[Billiejeens]

Yeah I don't get it either. Maybe America in the recesses of our collective soul is as fascistic and authoritarian as any banana republic. Democracy is no longer reliably producing rich, white plutocratic politicians so it must be time to destroy it.

Once again we are a representative republic.

Are we? I would question that assessment when our representatives in government do not seem to be concerned with anyone except billionaires and those who try to represent The People are branded as evil socialists.

President Trump represent "The People" better than any President since Reagan.

 

[Votto]

The terms 'marxism' and 'socialism' do not scare Americans and will not help the GOP.

They do not scare those who have been indoctrinated by the media and academia because they were never taught the history of those two political ideologies

What is worse, they are told that the National Socialist Nazis were right wing.

Unbelievable

 

[Rye Catcher]

The problem, MAC, is you get all your information from the corporate media.

Wrong. So much for the rest of your point.

Meet your tribe Mac

Ask Beale where he gets information? Given his many posts I suspect he's a Fox hound and a Dittohead.

 

[Dragonlady]

This is just a guess, of course, but somewhere around 48% of those who vote in November will be voting for Donald Trump. Without going into the laundry list of obvious examples or any of the standard talking points, there are certainly plenty of reasons not to. Yet he has a perfectly reasonable chance of winning.

Right now, polls show that about 43% of Americans approve of the job he's doing. This, after everything that has happened, and that number should be a very sobering indication of where this country is right now. Personally, I try to understand how these people can do this, but I still only understand some of it.

Anyway, here's the point: Elections are about contrasts. Choices. How can that many people support this disaster of a person? For many of them, they're looking at the alternative. And when those who provide their information and opinions for them point at things like PC and Identity Politics and Cancel Culture and an overall culture in decay, they can make reasonable points not to vote for the Democratic party. Even with, amazingly, this profoundly damaged person in the White House.

It's certainly too late to make any changes before November, but the Democratic party had a chance to take over the middle, and I don't see that happening. There is no excuse, zero, none, for the race to be this close. Regardless of who wins, the Democrats have too often allowed the wrong voices to represent them. It allows the Trumpsters to tie all the silliest crap coming from the hardcore Left to the milquetoast, feeble Biden.

This should be a learning experience, but I'm doubtful.

This is all such bullshit. There is no "middle" in American politics. There is a white nationalist party which is busy enriching billionaires, and is allowing a vicious disease to run free throughout the country because it's makiing their donors so much richer, and another party.

It really doesn't matter what Democrats are doing because what Trump is doing is KILLING TENS OF THOUSANDS OF AMERICANS, and he just doesn't care.

 

[WTF19]

This is just a guess, of course, but somewhere around 48% of those who vote in November will be voting for Donald Trump. Without going into the laundry list of obvious examples or any of the standard talking points, there are certainly plenty of reasons not to. Yet he has a perfectly reasonable chance of winning.

Right now, polls show that about 43% of Americans approve of the job he's doing. This, after everything that has happened, and that number should be a very sobering indication of where this country is right now. Personally, I try to understand how these people can do this, but I still only understand some of it.

Anyway, here's the point: Elections are about contrasts. Choices. How can that many people support this disaster of a person? For many of them, they're looking at the alternative. And when those who provide their information and opinions for them point at things like PC and Identity Politics and Cancel Culture and an overall culture in decay, they can make reasonable points not to vote for the Democratic party. Even with, amazingly, this profoundly damaged person in the White House.

It's certainly too late to make any changes before November, but the Democratic party had a chance to take over the middle, and I don't see that happening. There is no excuse, zero, none, for the race to be this close. Regardless of who wins, the Democrats have too often a
llowed the wrong voices to represent them. It allows the Trumpsters to tie all the silliest crap coming from the hardcore Left to the milquetoast, feeble Biden.

This should be a learning experience, but I'm doubtful.

The Democrats need to retake control of their party, they need to tell the Neo-Marxists to GTFO because NO Western nation and ESPECIALLY America wants Marxism and wants to collapse Capitalism and replace it with Anarchy and a Communist System.

Why do you continue to use the RED SCARE?

Q. Do you have a clue about what Marxism is?

Q. Do you belief the Democratic Party will actually take over General Motors, Ford and other industries to control the means of production?

If you do I have a bridge for sale cheap, it spans the opening from the Pacific Coast into San Francisco Bay. There is even and Island about a mile west of the bridge, it once was a Federal Prison and I'm sure Trump&Co. will sell it to you.

sounds just like a commie...just saying

 

[JakeStarkey]

mamooth and rye catcher are rolling along with the truth, which I do appreciate

the GOP would happily switch places on numbers with the Dems today if they could

 

[Votto]

This is just a guess, of course, but somewhere around 48% of those who vote in November will be voting for Donald Trump. Without going into the laundry list of obvious examples or any of the standard talking points, there are certainly plenty of reasons not to. Yet he has a perfectly reasonable chance of winning.

Right now, polls show that about 43% of Americans approve of the job he's doing. This, after everything that has happened, and that number should be a very sobering indication of where this country is right now. Personally, I try to understand how these people can do this, but I still only understand some of it.

Anyway, here's the point: Elections are about contrasts. Choices. How can that many people support this disaster of a person? For many of them, they're looking at the alternative. And when those who provide their information and opinions for them point at things like PC and Identity Politics and Cancel Culture and an overall culture in decay, they can make reasonable points not to vote for the Democratic party. Even with, amazingly, this profoundly damaged person in the White House.

It's certainly too late to make any changes before November, but the Democratic party had a chance to take over the middle, and I don't see that happening. There is no excuse, zero, none, for the race to be this close. Regardless of who wins, the Democrats have too often allowed the wrong voices to represent them. It allows the Trumpsters to tie all the silliest crap coming from the hardcore Left to the milquetoast, feeble Biden.

This should be a learning experience, but I'm doubtful.

This is all such bullshit. There is no "middle" in American politics. There is a white nationalist party which is busy enriching billionaires, and is allowing a vicious disease to run free throughout the country because it's makiing their donors so much richer, and another party.

It really doesn't matter what Democrats are doing because what Trump is doing is KILLING TENS OF THOUSANDS OF AMERICANS, and he just doesn't care.

So genius, why do all of the rich fat cats. like Soros, Gates, Bezos, Buffett, etc., big time democrats?

And why are all of the "rich" states blue?

 

[mamooth]

you are 1 messed up human being. everything you typed is blatently WRONG..

No, I pegged you spot on for the low-grade-moron Nazi-wannabee that you are. And that's why you're so triggered now.

you described the demoncrats to a t. the treasonists once again are BARRAG o, FAT hill-ary, BEIJING joe, no help at the dog salon pill-osi and ITS hemorrhoid schumer

Fortunately, you're clearly not old enough to vote. You should investigate joining the Hitler Youth Brigades. You know, the Proud Boys and similar groups.

 

[Billiejeens]

Yeah I don't get it either. Maybe America in the recesses of our collective soul is as fascistic and authoritarian as any banana republic. Democracy is no longer reliably producing rich, white plutocratic politicians so it must be time to destroy it.

Once again we are a representative republic.

Are we? I would question that assessment when our representatives in government do not seem to be concerned with anyone except billionaires and those who try to represent The People are branded as evil socialists.

Your problem is you beleive giving americans more and more free stuff is representing them.

Your problem is that you think money rightfully buys power and the rich are fully entitled to the handouts their pet politicians give them.

Only democrats know where money rightfully belongs, which is why they want to collect it all and redistribute it.

Luckily most people still see that as a huge problem, at least for now.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Xi/Biden 2020

We both want to make China grow!

 

[Dragonlady]

The terms 'marxism' and 'socialism' do not scare Americans and will not help the GOP.

They do not scare those who have been indoctrinated by the media and academia because they were never taught the history of those two political ideologies

What is worse, they are told that the National Socialist Nazis were right wing.

Unbelievable

What is unbelievable is your post. YOU are the one in need of learning the histories of these two forms of government because you think that both are the same and that both are negative.

And the NAZI Party, under Adolf Hitler, was a right wing white nationalist party.

YOU need to go back to school and stop spouting the lies of the Republican Party. It is YOU who have been brainwashed by the billionaire owned right wing media.

 

[Billiejeens]

The Democrats offer concrete policies across the board, while the Trump cult offers only fear and hate.

Concrete policies?!? They had to be forced by their falling poll #'s to condemn the riots and violence.

Pollster: Biden denounces Kenosha violence after campaign ...

Pollster: Biden denounces Kenosha violence after campaign 'misjudged how important it was to the American people'

Democratic presidential candidate Joe Biden finally condemned the ongoing violence in Kenosha, Wis. and cities across the country after his campaign initially "misjudged how important it was to the American people."

www.foxnews.com

Democratic presidential candidate Joe Biden finally condemned the ongoing violence in Kenosha, Wis. and cities across the country after his campaign initially "misjudged how important it was to the American people," pollster and president of Maslansky & Partners, Lee Carter told “Fox & Friends Weekend” Sunday.

The Democrats act like patriots and decent human beings,

By backing and supporting the riots?

That one is literally out of it's mind.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

The OP is hopeful but certainly less than convincing.

Monday, September 14

Race/Topic (Click to Sort)	Poll	Results	Spread
Arizona: Trump vs. Biden	OH Predictive Insights	Biden 52, Trump 42	Biden +10

Sunday, September 13

Race/Topic (Click to Sort)	Poll	Results	Spread
General Election: Trump vs. Biden	FOX News	Biden 51, Trump 46	Biden +5
Arizona: Trump vs. Biden	CBS News/YouGov	Biden 47, Trump 44	Biden +3
Minnesota: Trump vs. Biden	CBS News/YouGov	Biden 50, Trump 41	Biden +9
Arizona Senate - McSally vs. Kelly	CBS News/YouGov	Kelly 49, McSally 42	Kelly +7
Minnesota Senate - Lewis vs. Smith	CBS News/YouGov	Smith 47, Lewis 40	Smith +7
President Trump Job Approval	FOX News	Approve 48, Disapprove 51	Disapprove +3

Saturday, September 12

Race/Topic (Click to Sort)	Poll	Results	Spread
New Hampshire: Trump vs. Biden	NY Times/Siena*	Biden 45, Trump 42	Biden +3
Nevada: Trump vs. Biden	NY Times/Siena*	Biden 46, Trump 42	Biden +4
Arizona: Trump vs. Biden	Gravis	Biden 50, Trump 48	Biden +2
Wisconsin: Trump vs. Biden	NY Times/Siena*	Biden 48, Trump 43	Biden +5
Minnesota: Trump vs. Biden	NY Times/Siena*	Biden 50, Trump 41	Biden +9
Arizona Senate - McSally vs. Kelly	Gravis	Kelly 48, McSally 43	Kelly +5
Minnesota Senate - Lewis vs. Smith	NY Times/Siena	Smith 49, Lewis 40	Smith +9

Jake, are you telling us, once again, that "trump has no path to the White House"?

Surely, this can only mean President Hillary will glide to reelection?

Where's Stats btw?

 

[eagle1462010]

Guess those Hollywood types are poor just like hillary......poor things.......

 

[WTF19]

you are 1 messed up human being. everything you typed is blatently WRONG..

No, I pegged you spot on for the low-grade-moron Nazi-wannabee that you are. And that's why you're so triggered now.

you described the demoncrats to a t. the treasonists once again are BARRAG o, FAT hill-ary, BEIJING joe, no help at the dog salon pill-osi and ITS hemorrhoid schumer

Fortunately, you're clearly not old enough to vote. You should investigate joining the Hitler Youth Brigades. You know, the Proud Boys and similar groups.

sounds like you are already a member..fortuately, nobody takes you serious...just saying