$36 Trillion for Clean Energy, IEA reports.

[elektra]

Here in America renewables are being put on roofs and built by utilities nation wide. Most of this is being done privately!!!

And yes, within 5 years even natural gas will be looking up at solar!!!

Nope, its the other way around, Solar looks to Natural Gas.
Big Solar Big Gas Ivanpah s dirty power - Master Resource

Big Solar: Big Gas (Ivanpah’s ‘dirty power’)
By Wayne Lusvardi -- April 2, 2014“It has been lauded as the world’s largest solar power plant, but the Ivanpah Solar Electric Generating System (ISEGS) could also be called the world’s largest gas-fired power plant (largest in physical size, not gas consumption)." Chris Clarke continues in his piece, “Ivanpah Solar Plant Owners Want to burn a Lot More Natural Gas" (KCET, March 27, 2014):Each of the 4,000-acre facility’s three units has gas-fired boilers used to warm up the fluid in the turbines in the early morning, to keep that fluid at an optimum temperature during the night, and to boost production during the day when the sun goes behind a cloud…. Solar Partners says that in order for ISEGS (Ivanpah) to operate at full efficiency, the plant's gas-fired auxiliary boilers will need to run an average of 4.5 hours a day, rather than the one hour a day originally expected. The plant's total CO2 footprint from burning natural gas would rise to just above 92,200 tons per year, approximately equivalent to the annual greenhouse gas output of 16,500 average passenger cars.

 

[elektra]

Well, the economics dictate what will be. And solar, wind, and geothermal are soon all going to be cheaper than coal, gas, or nuclear. And no dangerous byproducts, no radioactive waste, no destruction of the landscape with strip mines, no fracking near the water table, or methane escaping into the atmosphere. The externalities alone will dictate that.

We are going to spend at least that, worldwide, on evergy in any case. We are going to spend more than that on the results of climate change by 2050.

$36 Trillion is, "cheaper"?

 

[Manonthestreet]

Dont forget to ad Algores 90 trillion to redesign major cities in the world to make them green.........

 

[Old Rocks]

You poor dumb fucks, we will be spending many trillions of dollars, just to supply the world's cities with water. Same for power and transportation. And then there is the problem of sea level rise. That alone will cost tens of trillions of dollars in the cities, and coastal communities and farms.

 

[Manonthestreet]

You fantasy warming lies now back to reality

 

[Vigilante]

 

[elektra]

You poor dumb fucks, we will be spending many trillions of dollars, just to supply the world's cities with water. Same for power and transportation. And then there is the problem of sea level rise. That alone will cost tens of trillions of dollars in the cities, and coastal communities and farms.

link

 

[Old Rocks]

You poor dumb fucks, we will be spending many trillions of dollars, just to supply the world's cities with water. Same for power and transportation. And then there is the problem of sea level rise. That alone will cost tens of trillions of dollars in the cities, and coastal communities and farms.

link

For water apos s sake Chicago researchers reach across the seas to Israel - Chicago Tribune
Water scarcity is no longer a problem buried in think tank monographs. It's a crisis that has begun to have palpable, disturbing implications for much of the globe. By 2030, nearly half of the world's population will be living in regions saddled with severe water stress, the UN projects. Over the last decade, the number of violent confrontations over water issues has risen fourfold, according to the Pacific Institute, a California-based think tank that studies global water scarcity.

http://www.climatecost.cc/images/Policy_brief_2_Coastal_10_lowres.pdf

55,000
projected number of people
directly affected by coastal
flooding each year by the
2050s (under the A1B
scenario)
€1.5bn
estimated annual incremental
costs of adaptation for the
2050s (A1B)
€11bn

Many, many more warnings from those that have to consider the future for the cities.

 

[elektra]

You poor dumb fucks, we will be spending many trillions of dollars, just to supply the world's cities with water. Same for power and transportation. And then there is the problem of sea level rise. That alone will cost tens of trillions of dollars in the cities, and coastal communities and farms.

link

For water apos s sake Chicago researchers reach across the seas to Israel - Chicago Tribune
Water scarcity is no longer a problem buried in think tank monographs. It's a crisis that has begun to have palpable, disturbing implications for much of the globe. By 2030, nearly half of the world's population will be living in regions saddled with severe water stress, the UN projects. Over the last decade, the number of violent confrontations over water issues has risen fourfold, according to the Pacific Institute, a California-based think tank that studies global water scarcity.



55,000
projected number of people
directly affected by coastal
flooding each year by the
2050s (under the A1B
scenario)
€1.5bn
estimated annual incremental
costs of adaptation for the
2050s (A1B)
€11bn

your link does not work

 

[Vigilante]

We're all going to drown!!!!

 

[ScienceRocks]

Wind and solar is infite sources of energy! When coal, natural gas and oil are all gone...Well, what do you think we will be thankful for???

lol

 

[Vigilante]

Wind and solar is infite sources of energy! When coal, natural gas and oil are all gone...Well, what do you think we will be thankful for???

lol

When do you expect us to run out of those sources of energy... just an educated guess if you will!

 

[ScienceRocks]

Wind and solar is infite sources of energy! When coal, natural gas and oil are all gone...Well, what do you think we will be thankful for???

lol

When do you expect us to run out of those sources of energy... just an educated guess if you will!

I expect coal by 2080, Oil by 2030-2040 and natural gas before 2120.

Europe has already seen its coal becoming uneconomical in quite a few areas. So it isn't infite...I expect to see our coal and China's run out between 2050 and 2080.

Oil is a wild guess, but the fact that we're moving opportions into deeper waters and drilling deeper tells me something....Same with natural gas.

Why not have at least 20% of our energy needs coming from renewables when the day comes? better safe then sorry, right?

 

[elektra]

Wind and solar is infite sources of energy! When coal, natural gas and oil are all gone...Well, what do you think we will be thankful for???

lol

Land for Solar is finite, Good spots for Wind is finite. Both turn off, no wind=no energy, no sun=no energy.

Solar needs Oil, to be manufactured, maintained, and replaced, hence Solar panels are finite.

Wind needs Oil, to be manufactured, maintained, and replaced, hence Wind is finite.

Physics, the Laws of Chemistry, dictate that harnessing Sun and Wind by man has a finite limitation.

 

[Vigilante]

Wind and solar is infite sources of energy! When coal, natural gas and oil are all gone...Well, what do you think we will be thankful for???

lol

When do you expect us to run out of those sources of energy... just an educated guess if you will!

I expect coal by 2080, Oil by 2030-2040 and natural gas before 2120.

Europe has already seen its coal becoming uneconomical in quite a few areas. So it isn't infite...I expect to see our coal and China's run out between 2050 and 2080.

Oil is a wild guess, but the fact that we're moving opportions into deeper waters and drilling deeper tells me something....Same with natural gas.

Why not have at least 20% of our energy needs coming from renewables when the day comes? better safe then sorry, right?

May I say, you are CRAZY! Run out of NG in FIVE YEARS!!!!!

100 Year Supply New Study Doubles U.S. Natural Gas Reserves

 

[Delta4Embassy]

IEA calls for 36 trillion in clean energy funds - Jun. 12 2012

IEA calls for $36 trillion more in clean energy investments

NEW YORK (CNNMoney) -- The International Energy Agency said the world's clean energyinvestments are sorely lacking and this week called for an additional $36 trillion of funding by 2050.

In a sharply-worded introduction to a 700-page report, IEA Executive Director Maria van der Hoeven said governments and private industry need to do far more if the world is to hold global warming to what most scientists say is an acceptable level.


"Our ongoing failure to realize the full potential of clean energy technology is alarming," said van der Hoeven. "Under current policies, both energy demand and emissions are likely to double by 2050."

The IEA consists of mostly industrialized nations and was set up in the early 1970s to counterbalance OPEC. It conducts energy market research and helps coordinate releases from strategic oil stockpiles.

Thought most scientists were saying we already passed the tipping point where we coulda prevented our own demise from climate change?

 

[greyviper]

Renewables are going to last better than the current fossil fuels we use. It is better that we utilize them.

Seriously, no SUN? ---> how do you suppose the sun or solar radiation from the sun going to disappear anytime soon? According to physics estimates the sun is still going to shine for a few billion years before it bec0mes a red giant and eventually runs out of hydr0gen fuel.

How so that solar would continue to rely on oil? Are there not going to be advantages in technology in order to improve current design and method of how its produced?

How about wind? Does the wind will eventually stop to flow? As long as their is an imbalance in the heat distribution on the planet (which would certainly be continuing) there are certainly going to be wind currents.

How about the flowing water? Does the earth going to run out of water anytime soon? Is the water cycle going to stop anytime soon? Hydrothermal source is also a viable source of energy.

Geothermal. Is the interior of the Earth going to cool down anytime soon? Does it need oil to maintain the thousands of degrees of heat inside the earth?

 

[Delta4Embassy]

Renewables are going to last better than the current fossil fuels we use. It is better that we utilize them.

Seriously, no SUN? ---> how do you suppose the sun or solar radiation from the sun going to disappear anytime soon? According to physics estimates the sun is still going to shine for a few billion years before it bec0mes a red giant and eventually runs out of hydr0gen fuel.

How so that solar would continue to rely on oil? Are there not going to be advantages in technology in order to improve current design and method of how its produced?

How about wind? Does the wind will eventually stop to flow? As long as their is an imbalance in the heat distribution on the planet (which would certainly be continuing) there are certainly going to be wind currents.

How about the flowing water? Does the earth going to run out of water anytime soon? Is the water cycle going to stop anytime soon? Hydrothermal source is also a viable source of energy.

Geothermal. Is the interior of the Earth going to cool down anytime soon? Does it need oil to maintain the thousands of degrees of heat inside the earth?

Except for water I'd agree. US aquifers where we get most of our's is nearly depleted. But for PBS documentaries though they don't talk about that much.

 

[Flopper]

$ 36 trillion dollars, I wonder if Congress can be bi-partisan, compromise, and work together to become filthy rich.

World wide. What's wrong with you? Can't you read?

You're the one with the reading problem. "The International Energy Agency said the world's clean energy investments are sorely lacking and this week called for an additional $36 trillion of funding by 2050." The IEA is a consortium of 29 nations. There is no statement in the article or the 700 page IEA report that says the US will bear all costs. In fact they have developed a cost allocation formula that spreads costs across all nations. US dollars are used in all their reports because it's the most widely used reserve currency.

IEA calls for 36 trillion in clean energy funds - Jun. 12 2012

 

[elektra]

Renewables are going to last better than the current fossil fuels we use. It is better that we utilize them.

Seriously, no SUN? ---> how do you suppose the sun or solar radiation from the sun going to disappear anytime soon? According to physics estimates the sun is still going to shine for a few billion years before it bec0mes a red giant and eventually runs out of hydr0gen fuel.

How so that solar would continue to rely on oil? Are there not going to be advantages in technology in order to improve current design and method of how its produced?

How about wind? Does the wind will eventually stop to flow? As long as their is an imbalance in the heat distribution on the planet (which would certainly be continuing) there are certainly going to be wind currents.

How about the flowing water? Does the earth going to run out of water anytime soon? Is the water cycle going to stop anytime soon? Hydrothermal source is also a viable source of energy.

Geothermal. Is the interior of the Earth going to cool down anytime soon? Does it need oil to maintain the thousands of degrees of heat inside the earth?

Renewable? Geothermal, now that is a good one. Instead of drilling for Oil you are going to drill for hot water and charge more for it than Oil?