35 trillion and counting

[Greenbeard]

Just:

1. Rebuilt our dilapidated military
2. Vastly fixed the VA
3. Largely found a way to secure our border
4. Addressed huge trade imbalances
5. Reinvigorated American manufacturing
6. Reduced government regulations stifling industry
7. Eliminated ISIS
8. Kept Russia, N. Korea and China at bay keeping the world at peace
9. Created the Space Force
10. Raised the national standard of living
11. Gave us the best economy ever
12. Lowered crime
13. Got other nations to pay their fair share into NATO
14. Arranged with the Taliban to stop killing our soldiers and an agreement for us to pull out of Afghanistan after 20 years
15. And took on a global pandemic, kept us to only the 18th in the world fatalities per population and cut red tape to allow the creation of a vaccine in record time.

Fact Sheet - The Historic Results of President Donald J. Trump's First Two Years in Office | The American Presidency Project

www.presidency.ucsb.edu

Love the idea that Trump spent 8 and a half trillion dollars to "get other nations to pay their fare share" and to deregulate Boeing and to surrender in Afghanistan. Sounds like a real bargain.

 

[toobfreak]

Love the idea that Trump spent 8 and a half trillion dollars to "get other nations to pay their fare share"

Trump did not spend any of that money on getting other nations to uphold their NATO agreements. You talk like an idiot.

and to surrender in Afghanistan.

Trump never surrendered anything to Afghanistan. He got us out of there. Biden bungled it badly, Americans died, Americans were left behiind, and Joe left them 80 billion dollars worth of our gear. Do yourself a favor and quit listening to commie leftwing propaganda.

 

[Greenbeard]

Trump did not spend any of that money on getting other nations to uphold their NATO agreements.

Oh, your post was just dumb bullshit. I suspected!

 

[el midgetron]

You know, I have a feeling this whole national debt problem will get so much better if we just cut taxes more.

Let’s pay off the student loans for dimwits who thought going tens of thousands of dollars in debt to get a liberal arts degree in lesbian dance theory was a good idea.

Nothing exposes these liberals for the elitists they are more than than their desire to pay off student loans. They want the working class American tax payers to subsidize? Unemployed college kids.

 

[toobfreak]

Oh, your post was just dumb bullshit.

You change your name? How have I missed such a mindless laggard all these years?

Obviously a waste of my time so, you have nothing halfway factual or intelligent to post so off to IGNORE-LAND for you, Greenfuck. Bye.

 

[el midgetron]

The Reps and Dems are the worst on debt.

It's not even just about Presidents, Congress does a lot of the spending.

That’s what Trump refers to as the “swamp”. I know how triggering the T word is but he is bipartisan when it comes to the problem in Washington.,

 

[RoshawnMarkwees]

I thought by the thread title that this was about Kommie the Ho’s current mail-in vote tally.

 

[frigidweirdo]

That’s what Trump refers to as the “swamp”. I know how triggering the T word is but he is bipartisan when it comes to the problem in Washington.,

But he is the "swamp" now.

And he did NOTHING to change anything in 4 years. What's he going to do in another 4 years? Nothing. Just do rallies and have dumb fucks massage his ego.

 

[pknopp]

Trump did not spend any of that money on getting other nations to uphold their NATO agreements. You talk like an idiot.


Trump never surrendered anything to Afghanistan. He got us out of there.

No he did not. When Trump left office we were still there.

For years and years and years we called the Taliban "terrorists". You are arguing he had an agreement with "terrorists". One that he didn't actually have to uphold.

Biden bungled it badly, Americans died, Americans were left behiind, and Joe left them 80 billion dollars worth of our gear. Do yourself a favor and quit listening to commie leftwing propaganda.

None of that equipment should have been there to start with. When one does stupid things (and one must note that Biden was in the administration that did do many of these stupid things) it's always going to end poorly.

Its inevitable. Trump left it for the next guy to handle. Not that I feel bad for Biden because as I said, we should have left under Obama, but Trump passed the buck all the same.

 

[pknopp]

Let’s pay off the student loans for dimwits who thought going tens of thousands of dollars in debt to get a liberal arts degree in lesbian dance theory was a good idea.

We gave billions to dimwits who made bad loans. Now what I stated actually happened, yours is a made up scenario.

Nothing exposes these liberals for the elitists they are more than than their desire to pay off student loans. They want the working class American tax payers to subsidize? Unemployed college kids.

We had to pay to subsidize bad investments.

 

[August West]

The DEEP STATE is responsible back to Obiden 1.0 (Housing bust, $11.5T), Trump normal business thru 2019, DEEP STATE lunches Flu (adds massive debt to steal power back), Obiden 2.0 (Green hogwash adding Trillions for nothing, 20 million dependents over 4 years, war funding). All DEEP STATE all day, all the time.

Crazy people say crazy things like DEEP STATE and believe that Jewish space lasers are starting California wildfires.

 

[ThisIsMe]

The DEEP STATE is responsible back to Obiden 1.0 (Housing bust, $11.5T), Trump normal business thru 2019, DEEP STATE lunches Flu (adds massive debt to steal power back), Obiden 2.0 (Green hogwash adding Trillions for nothing, 20 million dependents over 4 years, war funding). All DEEP STATE all day, all the time.

Sure, I was just trying to draw the comparison between those who complain about Trump running up so much debt, when Biden actually ran up just as much, and didn’t have Covid spending to offset his debt

 

[ThisIsMe]

You know, I have a feeling this whole national debt problem will get so much better if we just cut taxes more.

Well, what do the raw numbers show? You think the trump tax cuts were enough to account for the trillions spent over the Biden term?

 

[pknopp]

Sure, I was just trying to draw the comparison between those who complain about Trump running up so much debt, when Biden actually ran up just as much, and didn’t have Covid spending to offset his debt

Sadly a large percentage will defend "their guy" on both sides no matter what.

Both will make all sorts of excuses.

Both sides have greatly failed us.

 

[ThisIsMe]

Still blaming COVID I see.

Gas prices were also lower because of COVID. No trump POLICY lowered gas prices.
"No, I don't take ANY responsibility at ALL." djt......COVID

It’s not blaming Covid, 4 trillion of trumps 4 year debt was literally Covid spending.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

At the end of 2017, rational debt was 20 trillion, at the end of 2020, debt was 27 trillion

So 7 trillion attributed to Trump

At the end of 2021 debt was 28 trillion, currently, debt has crossed 35 trillion and we still have 5 months left. So let’s say 36 to 37 trillion by the time Biden leaves office..

So that’s 8 to 9 trillion attributed to Biden

4 trillion of trumps spending was Covid spending..

So….who’s worse on the debt?

U.S. National Debt by Year

The U.S. national debt is the total of what the federal government owes creditors. The U.S. has always carried debt, but the total has expanded rapidly since 2008.

www.investopedia.com

Congress needs to be suspended until the debt is handled

 

[pknopp]

It’s not blaming Covid, 4 trillion of trumps 4 year debt was literally Covid spending.

Debt is debt is debt. No, we did not have to spend it. It was spent to try and influence people's votes.

 

[ThisIsMe]

How about if we all acknowledge both failed?

Sure, but the point of this thread is how much the left blamed trump for running up the debt, and now we see that Biden has run up just as much debt.

 

[pknopp]

Sure, but the point of this thread is how much the left blamed trump for running up the debt, and now we see that Biden has run up just as much debt.

Yes and now Trump supporters are blaming Biden for running up the debt.

As I said, both parties have greatly failed us.

I've noted many times that anything you refuse to condemn your guy for will only get worse with the next.

 

[ThisIsMe]

Trump.

You see the website I showed right? The numbers don’t lie. Bidens debt has been as much as trumps.

You post a picture of a graph…do you have a website to give context for that graph?